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And that's not a complete list, doesn't getpeerinfo order by latency? Oh so now it isn't a complete list once it is shown that many of those ips are VPS instances? Looks like maybe 10 different people mining on that list ("dashers"). Evan said there were "hundreds" of miners. Fwiw, no, it lists them as they where added. As I said earlier, several folks who where mining from day 1 said their IPs aren't on it so it's not complete, unless you want to say they're sockpuppets for Evan and if so we might as well stop their 'cos that's a road to nowhere. Miners jump on coins at launch because of the low difficulty and those services give the best bang for your buck with CPU mining, why would Dash be any different? http://cryptomining-blog.com/tag/crypto-coin-calendar/http://www.coindesk.com/gaw-miners-altcoin-launch-sparks-speculative-frenzy/How many people claimed this that you can quote? 100? 200? 300? Please enlighten us all on how many you have actually heard from claiming their ip was not listed on that list. |
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People complains about Dash, formerly Darkcoin, formerly Xcoin, being instamined and not rightfully propagated.
Well, I think there are some things that we need to reconsider before we actually come to this conclusion.
A) The history.
When Xcoin was launched, it had no other features that any other coin didn't have. It was a restart and a copy with no unique features. It was worthless, and it got distributed through an "instantaneous mining"(2.5m coins out of current 5.0m supply within 8 hours).
small correction : it was actually 1.99m not 2.5m --> https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118 Yes that is correct. The last block with extra coins was 4500, with 1.99m+ outstanding. If you click forward to the next block you will see it drops from 500 to 25 coins. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/block.dws?4500.htmMuch of this still reminds me of how Solidcoin dev Realsolid/Coinhunter changed the emission to drop the rewards per block of solidcoin. Went from like 50 to 5 or so. |
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And that's not a complete list, doesn't getpeerinfo order by latency? Oh so now it isn't a complete list once it is shown that many of those ips are VPS instances? Looks like maybe 10 different people mining on that list ("dashers"). Evan said there were "hundreds" of miners. |
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Fat Tay Choon went to the Mining Academy in Brazil, east of Satoshi's yurt, where Gavin was kidnapped by the CIA's goons and forced to pretend fucking an anonymous decentralized biscuit—better than all the fish in the Pacific Ocean—but also to defray leeches intelligently with ECDSA fighting qubits for 16.8 dree12, or Phinnaeus must fling toilets towards psy‐ops, without potato smoothies mixed with fried chicken wings from BitMunchies.com, urbanchickennj.com, and Popeye's Bitcoin wallet, which deleted Satoshi's premine ability to cheer very victoriously, none like Butterfly Labs better enabled, but also Pirate crashing AIR applications without the express use of interest-free scams, conspiring with fraudulent sockpuppets and PPTs and..., you troll-herding piece of Shiitake mushroom, go lick Goat's horns until Theymos admits to having a quite erotic fetish involving honey badgers wearing thongs composed of soggy burlap waffles dangling from cosmic linoleum-based iphones running quantum chips explodes spewing deadly acid! b!z screamed out "Light is bright like...like... stars." When Markjamrobin opens the isolated window, he sees three pigs together in bed. Kouye and myself laugh when chinese food falls the impact kills Obama Bin ladin whoever thinks he may be terrorist, is correct but hates the bitcoin logo. Earth has snakes. Currently, the other species have decimated to tiny groups called "marko solo" whatever time it all comes and ends? However, Bitcoin's acidity level dipped causing catastrophic double-spends!
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So really not to worrisome. Quantum is the real danger.
Quantum is no danger. Is the encryption used by VeraCrypt vulnerable to Quantum attacks?
VeraCrypt uses block ciphers (AES, Serpent, Twofish) for its encryption. Quantum attacks against these block ciphers are just a faster brute-force since the best know attack against these algorithms is exhaustive search (related keys attacks are irrelevant to our case because all keys are random and independent from each other).
Since VeraCrypt always uses 256-bit random and independent keys, we are assured of a 128-bit security
level against quantum algorithms which makes VeraCrypt encryption immune to such attacks. I think the algorithms used in Monero are even stronger than in VeraCrypt. Quantum attacks are potentially a danger to Monero. The distinction is that symmetric encryption like AES, etc. are much less vulnerable than signatures. All widely-used signature algorithms including those in Monero and Bitcoin are potentially vulnerable. It will be something that cryptocurrency will need to deal with in time but no one is panicking quite yet. then its a good thing Monero has a hardfork schedule in place, I assume it could be invoked in emergencies such as an indentified quantum attack is in place and a known remedy can be implemented. it is good to be prepared but I think it will be a while before we have to worry about that I'd say at least another decade. But then again maybe several. |
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Monero has nothing to lose from a BTC rally, it will put more eyes on crypto where it shines. But if all we see is just a pump on BTC and the old altcoin (LTC, PPC, NMC, etc) then its just pumping again to be followed by dumps (just ppl after making more money) and not a genuine rally signaling widespread crypto adoption. tl;dr nothing to be excited on the long term if an e-cash like Monero does not follow the BTC rise.
Yeah I agree. I hope bitcoin gets more attention. Basically it is the trailblazer for crypto and cryptocoins to come (monero being one of them existing today already). This bitcoin rally looks like it will be a march up....and not a bubble....yet. XMR will get hammered at first...but it will have its day. |
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If you are referring to one that you bought directly from me. Then it has a sticker/hologram.
I've never sold coins without putting on a hologram. Even unfunded ones I put the hologram and laser it. I'm not referring to the coin I recently bought from you. I have no idea if I bought my Brass 2013 Lealana 0.1 BTC directly from you and I don't have any pictures of the backside in my imgur album. Ahh I see. Okay  |
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Could you reserve me two coins (with the lowest numbers possible)? I need to check my 2013 Lealana coin first to see if it has a sticker on it or not (and I won't be home till Monday). I'll be buying at least one coin, that's for sure.
If you are referring to one that you bought directly from me. Then it has a sticker/hologram. I've never sold coins without putting on a hologram. Even unfunded ones I put the hologram and laser it. |
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I'm reposting this here as I believe it is relevant:
I love bitcoin and what it was created to be. But in light of the ability for regulatory authorities to ban or blacklist specific coins that have a certain address history association personally I see bitcoin as losing its fungibility in that respect.
Sure "Bitcoin is not the problem" is one way of looking at it, but other side of the argument is that "why not just fix that issue by disallowing transactions to be tracked by default and just have privacy features on by default?"
We know the answer: Too much opposition to changing the core protocol allow that to happen.
So the argument has those two sides...
SIDE A: Bitcoin is broken via fungibility because one can discriminate some coins to be accepted vs others based on block chain analysis.
SIDE B: Bitcoin is not broken and the financial system and businesses who choose to discriminate certain coins from being spent/exchanged in 3rd party businesses are broken (and the problem).
Two sides and probably both right in their own respect.
Although the arguments and sides exist it doesn't change the fact that businesses/govt/individuals can discriminate from accepting certain coins based on block chain analysis of their respective histories.
We have to remember that bitcoin does exist in this current world no matter how much we disagree with TPTB or the broken legacy monetary system. As long as that type of system exists there will be some issues concerning discriminating against accepting certain coins from certain addresses.
THOUGHT SCENARIO EXERCISE DEALING WITH COIN DISCRIMINATION
This thought experiment is to merely be just that an experiment and is not intended to give people ideas on what to do or not do in certain scenarios
You are an average joe looking to trade cash for bitcoins or some object like (gold coin) for bitcoins. Assuming you know each of the possible scenarios are true below.
BOB has bitcoins he wants to trade/exchange with you.
Which scenarios below would you consider not trading with BOB and discriminating against accepting his BTC for payment or trade?
Which scenarios would you trade with BOB and not discriminate against doing a trade?
BOB wants to trade you his BTC is the same person who just:
A. Robbed an old lady of her BTC by ransacking her house then beating the crap out of her.
B. Sold Kiddie porn for BTC
C. Ordered and executed a terrorist attack on a city killing a few hundred people and was paid in BTC to do so
D. Evading taxes with BTC
E. Was paid in BTC for prositution
F. Sold illegal drugs for BTC
Now if you really think about it, people can and will discriminate if they know or suspect something has happened with those BTC.
Would you accept BTC for trade or payment knowing that one of those things happened?
Which ones would you discriminated against more than others?
This brings in different shades of discrimination. As not every person would necessarily pick all of them to discriminate against. Some might even pick all of them to discriminated against. Some possibly would not care.
How would you determine who you would trade with if you knew those things were true? Which scenarios would you trade with that person if you know that the scenario is true and BOB is guilty of doing that?Then the problem would not be "That money is bad" but it would be you not wanting you to deal with criminals, which is up to the law enforcement to catch. Or the individual to care.
Do you see anyone having problem buying or accepting the Bitcoins sold by the FBI? No.
You forget that TPTB (the authority) can pretty much do what they want. When they possess the coins from criminals it is all of a sudden made "clean". Do you see exchanges using some sort of blacklist database considering BTC as bad? No.
YES. BTC-e and the evolution stolen coins. MTGOX did this with bitcoinica stolen coins. Bitpay is doing this on their own recently announced black list as I linked to in this thread once already. Do you see some sort of centralized authority that track and detect all BTC used in criminal activity? No. And wait, its not even possible to detect/enforce, since bitcoin does not have a centralized authority.
So unless you have actionable example of your super project that isint even possible in the first place (Its effectively impossible to detect which BTC has been used for anything you mentioned or not, its impossible to enforce, etc) then we can safely say that we're at no risk.
There just is no way for a company to dedicate billions of USD trying to track and tag every single transaction ongoing when there's not even a way to consistently connect the BTC to a crime or even an identity.
TLDR; Its fungibility, even though its not even relevant with BTC, is assured because there is not way to say whether the BTC was obtained legally or illegally. Especially when you take into account how easily it is to mix BTC.
Just because you can't see something, doesn't mean it isn't there. I'm pretty sure it won't cost billions to track and tag transactions that they want to. How is there no way to consistently connect BTC to a crime when many people who operated on silk road got caught and thrown in jail? <---- this topic is irrelevant as we are not really talking about people getting caught in their crime but coins associated with a crime not being accepted for payment/trade. Do you think Ross Ulbright could have benefitted from default privacy options in bitcoin? Mixing BTC doesn't remove the transactional history. Thus coins can be traced back to their source on the block chain. |
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This is a noteworthy post. Gmaxwell thinks DarkCoin (DASH) is highly centralized and masternodes can deanonymizes its users. Your pump and dump dance would probably be more effective if you were less transparently dishonest in your approach. CoinJoin is trustless— which is orthogonal with centralized or decentralized, it could be implemented several ways (though trustlessness is usually a prerequisite to a decenteralized implementation). Post 5 in the CoinJoin thread writes in depth about implementing it in a decenteralized way, none of which appears to have been implemented by the darkcoin developers as far as I can tell— from what I've heard it seems that they're not even able to understand it. what DarkCoin does is highly centralized
"masternodes" does not sound like something decenteralized, it sounds like something that creates a small chokepoint which could be used to deanonymize its users, like a server based CoinJoin but worse since you have to hold a huge pile of coins to run a server.
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Hi, As per title, am looking for a Lealana 1btc MS67 graded coin. You will be posting to Australia. Thanks Loaded or unloaded? How about a MS68 unloaded? I guess loaded unless there are unfunded ones out there not marked buyer funded. Prefer MS67 to complete set of 67's. Would take a 68 if nothing else turns up though. Cheers Any coin not marked "buyer funded" is funded. |
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Above comments about CT are correct. However, even with CT, using math an observer can still verify that the coins spent are equal to the coins received. You just can't tell the number.
It's not a bug. It's a feature.  An important feature! With Zerocash I believe this is not the case. Not being able to verify the circulation of a currency is a scary thing. In essence it is "TOO DARK" or "TOO PRIVATE". Monero is a good balance of being black and white.  |
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I'm reposting this here as I believe it is relevant:
I love bitcoin and what it was created to be. But in light of the ability for regulatory authorities to ban or blacklist specific coins that have a certain address history association personally I see bitcoin as losing its fungibility in that respect.
Sure "Bitcoin is not the problem" is one way of looking at it, but other side of the argument is that "why not just fix that issue by disallowing transactions to be tracked by default and just have privacy features on by default?"
We know the answer: Too much opposition to changing the core protocol allow that to happen.
So the argument has those two sides...
SIDE A: Bitcoin is broken via fungibility because one can discriminate some coins to be accepted vs others based on block chain analysis.
SIDE B: Bitcoin is not broken and the financial system and businesses who choose to discriminate certain coins from being spent/exchanged in 3rd party businesses are broken (and the problem).
Two sides and probably both right in their own respect.
Although the arguments and sides exist it doesn't change the fact that businesses/govt/individuals can discriminate from accepting certain coins based on block chain analysis of their respective histories.
We have to remember that bitcoin does exist in this current world no matter how much we disagree with TPTB or the broken legacy monetary system. As long as that type of system exists there will be some issues concerning discriminating against accepting certain coins from certain addresses.
THOUGHT SCENARIO EXERCISE DEALING WITH COIN DISCRIMINATION
This thought experiment is to merely be just that an experiment and is not intended to give people ideas on what to do or not do in certain scenarios
You are an average joe looking to trade cash for bitcoins or some object like (gold coin) for bitcoins. Assuming you know each of the possible scenarios are true below.
BOB has bitcoins he wants to trade/exchange with you.
Which scenarios below would you consider not trading with BOB and discriminating against accepting his BTC for payment or trade?
Which scenarios would you trade with BOB and not discriminate against doing a trade?
BOB wants to trade you his BTC is the same person who just:
A. Robbed an old lady of her BTC by ransacking her house then beating the crap out of her.
B. Sold Kiddie porn for BTC
C. Ordered and executed a terrorist attack on a city killing a few hundred people and was paid in BTC to do so
D. Evading taxes with BTC
E. Was paid in BTC for prositution
F. Sold illegal drugs for BTC
Now if you really think about it, people can and will discriminate if they know or suspect something has happened with those BTC.
Would you accept BTC for trade or payment knowing that one of those things happened?
Which ones would you discriminated against more than others?
This brings in different shades of discrimination. As not every person would necessarily pick all of them to discriminate against. Some might even pick all of them to discriminated against. Some possibly would not care.
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bitcoin itself is free to move, there is no cod that prefers one satoshi over another..
i wish people would realise this..
the problem is not bitcoin, its businesses and their preference.
EG
online stores do not accept bank wire transfers or banknotes by mail.. they only accept visa/mastercard.
ontop of that a majority of online stores only accept the native FIAT of the location where the HQ resides.
meaning an american store dos not accept euro's.
they dont accept gold, silver or diamonds..
this does not mean banknotes, silver, gold, diamonds, non-native fiat is screwed or has problems. it just means that the business has decided to limit its payment options and customers end up shopping elsewhere.
slowly the business will die off if it limits its payment options too much. which for narrowsighted businesses, is a good thing.
if the corner store in detroit stopped accepting banknotes, knowing the neighbourhood is 90% full of drug money. the store would close down. and thus the corner store still accepts bank notes.
it is not illegal for a business to accept funds if its from a drug dealer.. it is however illegal if the transaction itself is drug related where the shop owner has some drug related intent.
stolen funds or funds related to a crime are not permanently illegal to be used.. otherwise the court system would collapse when they cant get funding from fines and bail.
I love bitcoin and what it was created to be. But in light of the ability for regulatory authorities to ban or blacklist specific coins that have a certain address history association personally I see bitcoin as losing its fungibility in that respect. Sure "Bitcoin is not the problem" is one way of looking at it, but other side of the argument is that "why not just fix that issue by disallowing transactions to be tracked by default and just have privacy features on by default?" We know the answer: Too much opposition to changing the core protocol allow that to happen. So the argument has those two sides... SIDE A: Bitcoin is broken via fungibility because one can discriminate some coins to be accepted vs others based on block chain analysis. SIDE B: Bitcoin is not broken and the financial system and businesses who choose to discriminate certain coins from being spent/exchanged in 3rd party businesses are broken (and the problem). Two sides and probably both right in their own respect. Although the arguments and sides exist it doesn't change the fact that businesses/govt/individuals can discriminate from accepting certain coins based on block chain analysis of their respective histories. We have to remember that bitcoin does exist in this current world no matter how much we disagree with TPTB or the broken legacy monetary system. As long as that type of system exists there will be some issues concerning discriminating against accepting certain coins from certain addresses. THOUGHT SCENARIO EXERCISE DEALING WITH COIN DISCRIMINATIONThis thought experiment is to merely be just that an experiment and is not intended to give people ideas on what to do or not do in certain scenarios You are an average joe looking to trade cash for bitcoins or some object like (gold coin) for bitcoins. Assuming you know each of the possible scenarios are true below. BOB has bitcoins he wants to trade/exchange with you. Which scenarios below would you consider not trading with BOB and discriminating against accepting his BTC for payment or trade?
Which scenarios would you trade with BOB and not discriminate against doing a trade?BOB wants to trade you his BTC is the same person who just: A. Robbed an old lady of her BTC by ransacking her house then beating the crap out of her. B. Sold Kiddie porn for BTC C. Ordered and executed a terrorist attack on a city killing a few hundred people and was paid in BTC to do so D. Evading taxes with BTC E. Was paid in BTC for prositution F. Sold illegal drugs for BTC Now if you really think about it, people can and will discriminate if they know or suspect something has happened with those BTC. Would you accept BTC for trade or payment knowing that one of those things happened? Which ones would you discriminated against more than others? This brings in different shades of discrimination. As not every person would necessarily pick all of them to discriminate against. Some might even pick all of them to discriminated against. Some possibly would not care. |
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... This is how I used to day trade for my firm back in the day.
Now why would he need to buy coins on an exchange at all when by his own admission the DASH team is selling coins OTC ? He used to trade for a firm? And that is how he did it? Gosh I feel sorry for his employer. |
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Duffield needs to rethink his extreme compound interest node system. The Hobonickel and it's interest were considered kind of sketchy, and it's nowhere near as sketchy as Dash. For coins like the Hobonickel, you got huge interest if nobody staked, but it goes down to like 1% if everyone stakes. The stakers and miners are also all competing for the same pie with no distinction between the two. In Dashcoin, you have tons of people staking, yet everyone appears to be making huge gains. Something doesn't quite add up here.
In the Hobonickel, someone gaining more stake just increased their mining power, but giving people huge compound interest in Dashcoin is completely different because they're constantly manufacturing new Sybil nodes, thus hurting the integrity of the system. I'm not going to pretend any system is fully Sybil resistant, but if people want Sybil nodes, you should at least force them to pay for it in the form of mining expenditure or buying on exchange instead of giving it to them for free.
If you give people compound interest, you should probably be raising the coin requirement for a supernode, but instead, Duffield is talking about lowering it to 500, increasing Sybil count even higher? lol? Is this coin supposed to be some kind of Sybil manufacturing plant?
Consider the implications in extreme cases for the "1/100 chance of receiving a double payment" "Easter egg." If you have 100 masternodes, you always get at least 1 double payment/round. If you only have 1, the variance kills you. It's far easier to go from 100 to 101 (and thus, 100 to 200) masternodes than from 1 to 2 using interest, and the "Easter egg" only compounds that effect. So the richest DashHoles get even richer, faster, depending mostly on how rich they are to begin with. As with the aborted air-drop attempt to correct the insta-mine's maldistribution, the "Easter egg" is yet another gift to otoh the dash whale. It's actually more of quid pro quo, to repay otoh for single-handedly propping up the price of this dying, obsolete scam and getting new pumps going. Like Scientology, this cult is run for the benefit of its High Priest, financier, and enforcers, not the late-comers. And by late-comer I mean anyone who didn't participate in the first 48 hours of gratuitous instamining. We'd like to attribute this to incompetence, but the preponderance of evidence for malice is overwhelming. Don't forget it was a feature that the emission was jacked up in the first 2 days. When you paint yourself into a corner just put a spin on things and say "no one can stand in my corner!". |
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If you have 100 masternodes, you always get at least 1 double payment/round. If you only have 1, the variance kills you.
Is it 1% chance per node? So same would be the case if someone had 1000 nodes they would get 10 double payments? |
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