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2481  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? on: July 14, 2023, 10:33:39 AM

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler?


If one party is cheating on the other by stealing the games of the other and when it gets to his turn to give out his own game for the bet he hides away. I have seen this causing problem where friends can decide to share analysis and combine games but on the other party's turn he refuse to allow the friend to see his game and went to bet and win. It led the other cheated partner to complain and they fought and separated from being friends.

And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

I agree that when you stake higher then the cash out will be higher, that may be the basis for those joining resource to do that but aside from that, people can play differently to avoid those kinds of problems. On the whole I think it is greed that will make people only think of possibilities of bigger win from bonus or increased potential winning if they join resources together without considering issues that may arise from that, or without having a proper agreement.

To have agreement before the stake is more problem solving than to allow problem to arise because of proper arrangements.
2482  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You must do this if you want to QUIT or NOT on: July 14, 2023, 08:25:17 AM

Now, if you still want to gamble but you don't want to become addicted to it, one of the things you should do in my opinion is:

1. Only set aside an amount of money that you will use to gamble in a casino.
2. Don't think that you will gamble to make money, because if you do that, you will surely have a problem later.
3. Just spend a few hours staying in a casino to gamble so you can avoid what you don't realize is wasting time that you should be spending on important things instead of gambling.

These points are good but very difficult to keep to.  Setting out money aside for gambling is as good as telling a smoker to reduce the amount of cigarettes to take by himself. These actually need a pressure to achieve. A gambler that has money in his account after losing a bet has that drive to try again.

It is every gambler delight to make money from it. So it is worthy to note because this is the primary aim to gamble and that is why it is difficult to spend a short time on it but agreed the lesser time you spend in gambling, the gradual your interest in gambling diminishes. I believe this aspect that if you want to stop gambling then start reducing the amount of time you give to gambling.

2483  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I am only trying to stay safe by gambling less on: July 14, 2023, 05:59:24 AM
I am not a gambling addict but some friends are making me look like one because I gamble less and they gamble more, it all started when we got into an argument that investing in Bitcoin is not the same as gambling, my friends who are gamblers, not full-time but more of a gambler than I am, are claiming that there is no difference between investing and gambling, they said if all you doing is investing money on Bitcoin you are no different to those who are gambling in a casino.


Are you going to allow your friends confuse you on what you don't desire to do? You are already convinced that bitcoin investment and gambling is not the same thing but your friends are insisting they are, friend you don't need to prove anything to them. Addict gamblers are like that, they are use to arguing that way because you are not doing same thing they are doing and they want to generalize every thing together. But you know the difference by your self, why don't you keep to it and if you want to gamble by yourself you can instead of allowing them to persuade you.
2484  Economy / Economics / Re: Always ask for POD form from your bank on: July 13, 2023, 09:10:58 PM
Although asking for POD form is a good idea, but it's weird when we're discuss it here.

Most of people in this forum is a Bitcoin holder, they almost of their wealth in Bitcoin, remember the phrase "be your own bank". Bitcoin holder never trust in bank anymore, but they still use fiat and bank too because they've no choice as their country only accept fiat as legal tender. So they just have a small amount money in bank and not really that important to recover the money back to the next generation.

Not withstanding your disparage or logical aspersion on bank, even if you decide to hodl your money in btc or any other cryptocurrency, remember to have a confidant who will know your phrase to your wallet or will have access to it by means of directions you will drop on the exact description to get your passphrase otherwise such incident of death is still same as what experience OP shared and in fact regarding to cryptocurrency, if the passphrase was not disclosed then forget your earnings at least. So this is a head up that POD or disclosure of passphrase is apt.
2485  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is justice really blind? on: July 13, 2023, 07:15:16 PM

If I'm to be the judge I'd address the case as a fresh case and I'll let everyone know the true storyline and I can't sentence her for a crime she didn't comit at first which she served and now she went on to commit that same crime, I'll set her free with conviction after all she's innocent.

Sometimes justice can be blind but not always.

That should be the simple justice on the matter. Justice is not blind if the matter is judged this way but it will be injustice if she is sent to jail for the second time while she actually committed the crime once. Such case should be handled with care as that is same person and not a different person. The earlier judgement was wrong against the alleged offender.
2486  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Healthy mindset to save earnings from gambling on: July 13, 2023, 05:58:52 PM

There's this delusional mindset or a believe set from gamblers that they could have more chances of winning bigger amount again after getting a win of some attractive figures. By that, they increase their bets and their risk only to end up losing all they have won back to the casino house. Gamblers do this forgetting that a gambler doesn't get lucky twice immediately after a big win.


It is not only about the second chance trier but the increase of the risk and most gamblers are culprit to this. If you win once and you are playing for another game, you have the tendency to increase your bet as a natural instinct of man because you have profit already and the money you win gives you more confidence and hope as you are left with some balance. The unfortunate thing is that like you said, that greed will push someone to keep playing until the last drop of the cash is exhausted. Second chance works sometimes but it is dangerous when you try to win the second time and fail, you may want to continue trying until you are on zero balance.

2487  Economy / Gambling / Re: Top 5 Advantages of Bitcoin Casinos vs. Traditional Casinos on: July 13, 2023, 05:14:45 PM
The only difference between a Bitcoin casino and a traditional one is that the tokens used in that gambling game have become digital or cryptocurrency. And the second difference between them is that Bitcoin is online of course and it's fine even if you're at home.
in Traditional casinos you have to go directly to their site platform literally. Also, the traditional game is something you can see and touch in person, while with bitcoin it's not really via online.

Advantage of playing in bitcoin casino is also that you are sure of no third party interference in your transfers, all you need is the address of the casino but traditional casinos sometimes you could recheck why your deposit is not credited because of that level of human involvement. Some traditional casinos agent are so lazy that they may forget to credit you after you have made deposit to them. You have to go there at times to remind them if you have not seen the deposit alert and sometimes it takes days to rectify some payment if there are payment reflection issues.
2488  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gender in Gambling [differences between Women and Men in Gambling] on: July 13, 2023, 04:40:02 PM

I think, people think that women can't gamble but I think that they can gamble with a high percentage of wins because they are organized and have the patience to win the race slowly and steadily and not put all the gambling portfolio in one or two games.

On the contrary I don't think women win gambling bet more than men or there organized attributes or patience a factor. In fact I don't think patience will be attributed to a woman alone because this is subjective even if we agree that they are organised. Therefore, the reason that it looks like the women win more is that they don't lose as heavily like men. Men are heavy gamblers, they gamble with high percentage of risk but women don't bet heavily so if they lose they will still have something to bet again but men may not have such money as they involve a lot of risk at one bet.
2489  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: IMPORTANT regarding BC.GAME! on: July 13, 2023, 04:17:34 PM
I understand your account won't allow you to post image but what you have in the link is not anywhere enough to get people to understand what happened. You only show you have 3773.4 usdt or so in the wallet and that will not tell anything. What about email messages etc .

Moreover no background stories or what reason they gave for not allowing you to withdraw? Or is it an issue of KYC.
2490  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your Thoughts On First Time Lottery Bettor Who Won Big Amount? on: July 13, 2023, 10:47:18 AM

I don't feel left out or feel missing out because one person made millions from. gambling, it's good for him but I wish that many lives are changed just like him, gambling is the slowest way to achieve anything and it's better to avoid trying to get anything from gambling, I get more unexpected surprises when I gamble because I was not prepared or expecting it and I like it this way.


You speak with so much conviction that there is no positivity in gambling but some other people will also doubt your reasoning maybe when they look at what they have achieved through gambling. I believe however that gambling favour few like lottery winner but it leaves much more people in penury. I agree however with you on your ending part as to unexpected surprise. Yes if you gamble without so much high hopes in it to become your source of income, you are likely to be hitting some difference in your account probably because you are taking all the measures for right ways to gamble, like gambling as you can afford to lose, not gambling always etc .
2491  Economy / Gambling / Re: Whats happening with Betnomi? on: July 13, 2023, 09:41:50 AM
For the main time everyone needs to avoid Betnomi to see if they're coming back again and rectify all the issues or be on the safer side by avoiding the casino because this may be a clear case of exit from the market,  just like a few members have mentioned in the comment it clear that the gambling industry is becoming a highly competitive one and at that, most of the casinos that lack liquidities could easily close their doors to business since there will not be able to meet up with the operational cost to keep the casino running.

It is normal that when such occurrences takes place, one would need to take caution so as not to fall victim of the situation. From the previous posts I have been reading I think there is possibility that they would return because they have promised to make processing pending withdrawals for members and also fix up things properly  even at then, the competition as you have mentioned is very high and  from the looks, seems they are out of ideas on how to restructure their organization hence the delay in activities. But it would be nice for them to hasten up with whatever they are doing so as to take their place and retain their position otherwise some other casinos with high competitive features will take their place and when that happens, they have lost it all as nobody would come their way anymore.

No matter the situation that they are going through at the moment, they should have made the customers aware of or a clue that they won't be up for a certain time to a certain time and also disable the deposit and review withdrawals from their customers before going off if it is temporary but now with the whole scene, the customers are more apprehensive than we can imagine. It is really unfortunate that maintainance was not made public before they went off for the moment.
2492  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who is to be blamed, the gambler or the betting agent on: July 13, 2023, 09:13:50 AM

In the case described in OP, the gambling agent was still able to find the gambler despite the gambler trying to evade the debt. If this were to be online casino, how and where will they find a gambler who they granted loan to. The money is lost for ever.

There is no room for debt in online business and that is the advantage because there is no personal relationship interphase. The casino don't give out credit only bonus for playing with them. There is no credit facility allowed but because there is physical relation in offline casino, things like that are possible.

In general, I don't think offline casinos giving their customers loan to gamble is ethical. They are just increasing the gamblers debt and risk of being addicted. That act should be prohibited.

Does this not buttress the point that the house win more than the bettor? The agents that is loaning out the money knows the gambler was going to lose again and again which was the reason to give out the money. Otherwise how would you loan money to someone who wants to "fight " against you and to win against you ? Or if you are not sure the money you loan won't come back to you as profit .
2493  Economy / Gambling / Re: Using ToS against users normal? on: July 13, 2023, 06:22:13 AM
Changing of terms and conditions without notifying the users or gamblers is normal with online gambling websites? Then when you did something wrong or about to withdraw your money they will tell you that you don't read their terms and conditions, and you start arguing with them until you decide to read the ToS again and you find out that it's different.


I think it is not proper for casinos to abruptly change ToS without informing users especially when it has to do with major terms that can stop users from withdrawing there winning. They should be able to send email notifications to those old users already active and playing with them. On the other hand too I think sometimes bettors should take time to read on those important aspect that will stop them from withdrawing.  However, we should expect changes in ToS from time to time because the world is not stagnant and every other thing revolve as things change because change is the only thing that is constant.
2494  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 12, 2023, 09:27:07 PM

The chance to get kane is bigger compared with osimhen. Bayern may ready to increase its budget even higher compared with the last offer.

Harry Kane has said he doesn't want to stay in Tottenham Hotspur this summer. I think he realize that age is no longer in his side about clocking 30 years with no trophy. His contract should official expire by next year but he wants to make a fast move either to Bayern or Manchester city. I Daniel Levy should allow him to go , he has given part of his youth playing days to Tottenham so going to a club where he can celebrate trophy with team mates is a good idea for him.

Can't imagine how it would be if Kane really left for Manchester City and partnered with Haaland, so I think it's clear that it will be a very good line of attack and always a serious threat to opposing teams. But regarding Tottenham's difficulty in letting go of Kane's departure, a case like this is like a coercion. I think such an attitude cannot be justified at all. So yes, Tottenham should be able to accept the decision that Kane wants to leave, because it will be useless if Tottenham continues to force Kane to play at Tottenham then it will have a negative impact on his performance.

Harry Kane deserve to leave for a top flight club and taste lifting some trophy before the end of his career. A player of his status deserve such. I remember also one player in Tottenham who only was winning young player award in EPL which is Garry Bale. It was until Bale took the very drastic step to join Real Madrid that he started winning trophy. Now if you search Google for trophies that Garry Bale can lay claims to, they are all there,
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5 Champions Leagues, 4 Club World Cups, 3 European Super Cups, 3 LaLiga titles, 1 Copa del Rey and 3 Spanish Super Cups.
. So Kane should better his career by moving out from Tottenham and get to where he can win some title.
2495  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there real sports bet groups on: July 12, 2023, 07:46:18 PM

It's stated that he is making that amount per month, which indicates a level of consistency. If this is indeed true, then I believe he should consider pursuing gambling full-time and leave his job in order to maximize his profits. Earning around $700-$800 per month is noteworthy, but I am also curious to know the size of the bankroll he utilizes for his betting purposes.

If that is the case that it is steady for him that such amount comes to him through gambling, his bankroll does not matter to know because if the risk he is taking is not worth it then he won't be that successful on it, it would have been affecting him when he loses. So he probably is taking proper care to analyse the games that are giving him such winning. But usually those that win in football betting don't play so many games. They just play few and boost the potential winning with high staking power.
2496  Economy / Economics / Re: Methods to cut food costs on: July 12, 2023, 06:22:09 PM
It cannot be denied anymore that the price of food will continue to increase due to many factors, apart from the decreasing land for agriculture, another thing is the weather which is difficult to predict, in my country, which used to be the rainy season, but news of drought has occurred in many places, making it even more difficult for farmers.

Climate change is really affecting the way we use to know the weather and that is actually affecting planting season. The environment has changed and we are having late planting because you have to wait for the rain for quite a long time down to mid may and June before you begin to see more rain in July but in the past sometimes you begin to see the rain towards march ending gradually and April to May will be more severe rain fall. This change is having adverse effects on agriculture except those who do irrigation but that is still not sufficient for the country because more hands are needed to be involved in planting but because the rain is not sufficient, some people stay away from farming.
2497  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is more important for crypto users? on: July 12, 2023, 04:56:00 PM

but if you don't want to gamble, then there is no need, as gambling is only intended for those who want to spend their money or try their luck to win big, but again, it is for entertainment purposes.

The games may be for entertainment purposes but the act to benefit those games you need to stake out some money that is what brings more interest in you. People see gamble not for only fun but to increase the money that they have and sometimes to show that they are on top on their game. For example I have witnessed friends when they are discussing football and having argument, when the argument is heated up and they want to ask someone else for confirmation on who is right, they decide to do P2P gambling and whoever is right after the confirmation wins the staked money. This is how some people show that they are on top of their game and this happens more often among fans of clubs. Some addict have taken it beyond that when they have argument to suggest to bet on who was right. So gambling is not really for entertainment purposes.
2498  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your first experience with gambling? on: July 12, 2023, 03:17:52 PM
Gambling is a game that has an addictive effect. Most people who have joined gambling sites will find it difficult to get out of the gambling circle. It doesn't matter how much you lose at gambling, as long as we still have money, we will continue to gamble
This is where optimisms falls in, gamblers are always optimistic about gambling because they believe in a day they must make some certain winning without undermining how much they have spent and lost during their gambling exercise or activities.
Also this is another points where we can say they are addicted to it because it's very hard to back off from the game haven seen and calculated all their lost they find it very difficult to quit or reduce their attention from gambling.

Such optimism is the reason for daily unsuccessful outting in gambling exercise. Imagine losing a game and instantly rebooking another one and continuously until the player exhaust all that he has with him and perhaps borrow from neighbours. This is more prevalent with virtual soccer because the game is played immediately in your presence and within the shortest time of 5minutes, a whole game is finished and you check the scores there and then to see if you got some luck and if you don't, they go on another rebooking but if gamblers will take their time to evaluate the outting, he may decide to check in the next time thereby saving himself some of his money.
2499  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you ever felt remorse after gambling? on: July 12, 2023, 02:01:51 PM

If a person gamble and at the end of the game he starts to feel remorse is that a good thing or should the person be on alert?

Apart from the money involved that could make gamblers feel remorse or regret, I think for a gambler why you should feel that way is when you didn't follow your instinct and you bet contrary to what you want to bet maybe a friend caused you to change your mind in the middle of betting what is from your mind and at the end, it happened that you would have won the bet if you had followed your instinct and analysis.

You can also feel remorse when you have almost won the bet in few minutes there is a turn of event against your bet like if a good was scored against you in dying minutes of the game.

You can also feel that way if you eventually won the bet but you staked with very low amount, so you would be wishing you added more funds to your bet that would have increased your winning prize. On the other hand too, vice versa, you can feel that way if you took higher risk and lost the game.

I think majority of bettors regret when they have cash out to pick up but because have greed, they leave it in expectation of a bigger potential win but to no avail, they lose everything at the end when the cash out is gone and the bet is lost also. Many bettors have this remorse certainly  Grin
2500  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there real sports bet groups on: July 12, 2023, 12:39:09 PM

I`ve got about $800 per month using such predictions. For someone it is not bad income. And i think that it can become a job, if you`re ready to spend so much time for such results. It is real result, i tested it by myself. The problem was to understand some details, but after it i never got less than $700 monthly income. But i get higher income on my main job and have no so much time to use both these ways of income.

How often have you got that amount because what matters is how consistent it is that you get it. What I understand about prediction sites is that they are not regular in their winning for those who are average in their winning rate but many fall below average yet they still collect fees from subscribers. If you are regular in your winning rates it means you are making additional efforts from what you are getting from the site as prediction.
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