prostitutes mainly deal with cash and so does their pimps. Especially with their pimps, they want to see the cash total by sunrise. so unless the prostitute can get cash before the sun appears. The only thing the prostitute will be seeing is the back hand of their pimp, followed by blurred vision, followed by the hospital waiting room.

take that into account.

are you able to show them a small transaction that they can then walk to a working bitcoin ATM that will EASILY pay out bank notes to the exact amount that would appease their pimp.

If not then maybe you should aim your sales pitch at the pimp, about how they can hoard the coin instead of having to have a bank account. show him some car dealerships and real estate places in LV that accept bitcoin or the ATM's to cash out. as im sure they are not that happy to deal in bank accounts and wire transfers.

even ripple was not a government invention. nor useful

government and banks equivalent to ripple is called FOREX

if the government and central banks wanted to create bitcoin. they could have created it.

meaning they could have coded it behind closed doors, premined it. and the swapped their current database account system with nodes and simply accredited each account holder with a privkey that was made from their bank details and a secret seed. and fill that public address with "dollarcoin".

we would have been non the wiser of this new banking system because to us all we see is a paper bank statement and or a balance on a website or ATM screen.

the general public would have been non the wiser of what actual code makes up the bank system. we would have been non the wiser thatif banks used crypto currency as their ledger, that the data on the 'chip and pin' cards was simply a privkey and not standard bank account numbers

so if government and central banks made bitcoin, then government and banks would be using ... well an altcoin.. as their bases of accounting the ledger of account holders, as its alot easier and more secure with no single point of failure compared to the banks standard systems of this last decade.

but im afraid to tell you that governments and banks are NOT using a crypto currency based ledger system,

put it another way. sat nav was not invented by the public, it was invented by the government, and they utilized it first in secret, they made it part of their world as they seen it was better then compasses/maps/sonar. it wasnt until years later that it was released to the public and commercialized.

so going back to bitcoin. if the government made it thy would be the first to use it to standardize and secure banks and then release it out to the world later.

so please will the OP and everyone else with a conspiracy theory branded tin foil hat. please stop making up stories about something that is soooooooo open and soo transparent.. as being made by secret agencies,

your theories would hold weight if you could show evidence, but just reading your crap theories i can tell that you have not even bothered to read the white paper, or read the code or read any of the open communications of the last 5 years between developers. you have no clue at all. i bet you have not read more then 2 messages posted on this forum by satoshi (although there are hundreds more. )

so before you make another crack pot theory, atleast do some research and provide links, atleast make the crack pot theory entertaining with an image.. just do something other than make crack pot theories.

dunno whats worse bitcoin being linked to the iodine suppliments that arnt really needed. or bitcoin related to silkroad.

i kinda lost respect in alex jones since he started selling ice to eskimo's

MR. Walmart owns ASDA

nope. i hoard most coins and the dollar value i was given as my yearly salary for 2012. is now worth so much more.

basically one week i was given 60bitcoins as a weeks wage in 2012. that one weeks wage is now($36k) covering my rent and food bill for this whole year and next year. and i still have alot more coin for from the other 120+ weeks of 2012-upto now. so i am happy.

and ofcourse i threw 1% of my hoard into exchanges and day traded into extra profit. so basically.. what i spent this year hasnt really touched my initial income.

and lastly, most of my life essentials are paid by bitcoins so converting to fiat is not my problem, as thats left with the landlord/merchants i deal with to decide what they do with the bitcoin received. but it sure does feel good to be handed 60btc 2 years ago for a week. and only have to hand out decimal amounts of singular btc to pay for food or rent

the year of 2140, has no realistic or meaningful explanation that would be of benefit to your corpse, which would have been burried many many years prior. so dont worry about it.

talking about future events is a speculation/theory. and as it has not happened nor will happen for 125 years it will remain a theory. and thus any talk about the year 2140 WILL BE A MYTH until the yar 2140 which is when those myths can be proven as fact.

in short you cant bust a myth until after the fact.

dude your still obsessed with the forming a group of users. please shut up about the users and voting. there are 30+ associations, co-ops, foundations, committee's, consortiums etc.

all of these have some form of open voting system for all members. but do you know what they all have in common with your idea. they have no actual purpose!!

just like government elections.. wow every 4 years people get to vote on something. yet the votes are meaningless. wars still happen, taxes still get collected, public services get budget cuts. there is no point in having a group or voting system unless you have an actual purpose for the group. if people had for instance the leader of the military that would only make the order to go to war if the public voted yes.. then there would be a purpose for national voting. if there was a national tax treasury guy that would spend the taxes however the voters decided, then there would be usefulness for a national vote. but if all your going to vote on is who sits in the head board seats and get a wage for sitting there, then its worthless.

now lets talk about the 30+ bitcoin groups... yes they vote on leadership, yes they vote on who has the largest... "third leg" they can vote on anything they like.. but there is no actual lobbyist advertiser, programmer, lawyer, PR rep amongst them doing a god damned thing to help the community. they are there just chatting with each other circle jerking each other telling each other how they are part of a special foundation. while the reality is, .. nothing. no real world change is happening.

so please stop waffling on about the skeleton of the foundation, stop whispering idea's of the voting system and instead concentrate on shouting out asking for people that can actively DO THINGS!!

i havnt been paid in fiat for 2 years.

just pure BTC ever since 2012

ok i just noticed its an offline generator, that does not grab the users public key for you to abuse later. if you highlight at the top of your page that its a browser based generator that can be used offline, your service could have more advantage. i will edit my last post to emphasise it.

ha ha ha, yea we know the USER wont have the private key until X date, but your code knows the seed that creates these hourly keys meaning you can sweep the addresses as you like when you like even years before you say it meant to be active..

OP do not trust third party services with 'dad man switches' as they prey on people to not check it regular...... and then its too late

EDIT
Lbaat.com appears to be a javascript based generator that can be used offline. so my initial response was wrong. i initially thought the OP was collecting peoples own public key to then use later in combination with his seed generator.

this will never be a feature added to the protocol. otherwise people will start putting dust amounts with a 10 year date to fill up the mempool of miners and nodes as a form of DDOS. with tx's just sitting there for 10 years.

the only solution is to buy a raspberry Pi and make a small program that is set to launch a command at X date. and then just leave it in th corner of your house cabled into your internet, and forget about it.

having the delay set 'locally' is the only option

i got no problem with people making decentralized groups but i am laughing at people writing above saying about 'how will people vote on "it" ' or 'who will control "it" '.. and yet no one is talking about what the foundation will actually achieve in reality.

stop thinking about grabbing members and giving members the power to vote before establishing the purpose and goals. start talking about what the members will be even voting on, what the foundation will actually be in control of, what the foundations motives are and what the foundation is even required to do,

anyone can make a group of circle-jerkers that votes on who gets to pick their nose first. or who gets to buy the pizza. but in reality its not helping bitcoin grow. so please stop thinking of the member/money grab and start thinking about who you lot know that can actually DO something.

i simply hate all these foundations that DO nothing but vote on useless things because no one is there to DO things. so shut up about voting, shut up about board members and concentrate on getting programmers, lobbyists, advertising companies FIRST and foremost.

do it the proper way. otherwise your just forming another committee of circle-jerkers.

that the issue. people of the fiat world want to get bitcoin and have mass adoption, not because they love bitcoin, but purely for a price spike to then cash back to fiat. so they are too eager to push for mass adoption purely for profit.

bitcoin needs to build stable and reliable infrastructure FIRST. before mass adoption. this means secure, professional exchanges with high-grade servers and security, liability insurance. and staff that know and are experienced in handling millions in funds value. not the basement dwelling teenager wrote PHP exchanges we have seen from 2009 until recent.

bitcoin needs proper ATM companies that have franchises so that each state or country can have a agent/franchisee operating and managing th local ATM's under the umbrella license of the main company.

bitcoin needs merchants that sell groceries, toilet paper, car fuel etc in most towns.

all of which will then make bitcoin have more usefulness than last year. once a few more of these are in place or even during developing these infrastructures, you will see the convenience side increase for average joe to get bitcoin at a local store (much like 'bureau de change').

dont get me wrong, it is happening. but you sir are the lucky one if you start to think as a bitcoin investor wanting bitcoin success, instead of a fiat investor hoping for a quick increase of fiat holdings. because you have found out about bitcoin before the ship sets sail. so dont think about fiat profits and convenience. think about the fact that your buying in before mass market convenience. which will be good for you in the long run.

and lastly its worth you signing up to bitstamp/coinbase. because if there is no local service in your town to get bitcoin conveniently. then you sir have a MASSIVE opportunity to become your towns convenience. you can open a little shop or buy an ATM and operate it for your town, making you the come-to business for bitcoins in your area, simply put YOU are your towns newest niche market. where people buy from you at a small margin extra and you buy from coinbase/bitstamp (keeping the profit margin in bitcoin for yourself)

i bet he has an altcoin client on his pc or that "bitcoin generator" app from youtube. that seems to be the likely culprits that trojans are coming from

paypal and plastic cards are not "proper money". they are just convenient gimmicks of money.
once you realise that bank wire transfers and paper cash are the proper FIAT and that paypal and cards are just the gimmick for convenience which then take longer to actually remove the real fiat from bank accounts, then you will see that you have been fooled into the fake lessons of the FIAT world.

EG when you use a debit card, if you went straight to your bank and asked for a statement instantly you would see the funds are still in your account, but have been earmarked to move later
IE
Total balance: $1,000,000
Available balance: $998,000

same with paypal it take days to move funds from paypal into an actual bank account to then use. so wire transfers or bank notes are the only true and proper money movement methods that cant be charged back as easily. i know i have repeated myself a couple times in this post but after a couple decades of the FIAT economy pushing their gimmick upon you, it takes time and several attempts to be retrained to the truth.

so now you have this concept in your mind. there are many services that offer wire transfer(via coinbase/bitstamp etc) and cash in hand(duel direction bitcoin ATM's) exchange for bitcoin.

and lastly bitcoin is still new, most definitely still in the innovator/early adoptor stage. so where as FIAT has had a century to get where it has, bitcoin has only had a couple years. Thus it is not ready for mass adoption and the gimmicky convenience stuff yet. so keep this in mind that its not yet at the stage to be on every street. not yet anyways. but its happening

before opening another foundation, association, etc. as there are already 5 in the UK and atleast 1 in every country. what you need to do is work out what the group would actually bring to the community and accomplish in the real world.

apart from a central meeting place for bitcoin users (business & investors) would it be the point of access for the Dev's looking to get a wage, would it be a place for lobbyists to get a wage from crowd sourcing funding.

there is no point in having membership fee's and groups of people, if nothing in the reality of the real world gets accomplished.

i see too many times that people want to set up businesses or groups without having a business plan/agenda or actualy researched the purpose and results the group/company would cause to the real world.

so please will people atleast try to build up a contact list of 'world changers' that can actually get things to actually happen in the world, way way before asking for user/member fee's.

put short. there are too many foundation groups of 'circle jerking' board members getting paid to just jerk-off in their office chairs. so if your not going to offer real world benefit, dont even bother asking for money.

this guy gets it. merchants can say that they are converting at bitstamp price ($5 higher than btc-e.com) but behind the scenes, what the customer may not know and wont find out is that he is converting at btc-e.com and getting an extra $5 per bitcoin cash-out.

that is the merchants personal choice. basically bitcoiners know that bitcoin can change in value at any moment. So as long as the bitcoin price shown is not exceedingly high compared to the average. then merchants can charge any price inbetween.

also you have to realise that bitcoin customers usually hold bitcoins for a few months, so they are usually in profit due to the deflationary nature of bitcoin. so customers should not be expecting discounts as thats just customer greed. merchants cant often discount prices, simply to hoard for the deflation to make them break even months later. instead they need to buy stock alot sooner, so in many cases of small 'mom and pop' stores they will want to be at break even or profit within a few days.
only large corporate merchants can afford to hoard for profit, thus offer discount. so i truly do hope all you bitcoiners that have the mindset that merchants should offer discounts as standard, to please take 'mom and pop' stores inability to discount into consideration.

im looking into developing a template that mentions to UK banks a few fun things. but i will look into them in detail and see which holds weight. read these 2 links and you might understand a few subtle hints i would want bank managers to know when us bitcoiners set up accounts or get told they wish to close our accounts
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/legacy/thereporters/robertpeston/2010/03/a_legal_right_to_a_bank_accoun.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19511542

dude, i know 100% that you have not successfully got merchants to accept bitcoin directly through your actions. and when that day comes where you have to actually talk to a human about accepting something they know nothing about. you will soon learn.

telling a merchant to accept bitcoin manually, to then hoard it himself and only cash out at the last minute to buy new stock is not how you do it. Seriously, you will never make it as a salesman.

again the bitpay thing. imagine it as a demo, a pre-run. part of the merchants beta test just to see how his customers interact whn its time to pay. at this point ALL THE GOD DAMN MERCHANT SEE's and NEEDS TO SEE is how to get a bitcoin address, show it to a customer and get the customer to pay. and know he will get FIAT to restock his shelves

GET IT, thats stage 1 again its the live demo/ pre-run showing the merchant how easy it is to accept bitcoin customer. its just the dipping of the toe in the water...

THEN i will say it once more THEN when the merchant as stuck his toe in the water, then you introduce him to the rest of the bitcoin benefits and let him choose what options he wants to go with. you dont just get someone that has never touched bitcoin, to start downloading programs for websites he has not heard of, and then download plugins for his shopping cart, which may cost him money to get his web developer to add (after all most merchants are more of the manager experience not the technical stuff like webcoding).