COMPETITION THOR 1st place at this time ... with a finger in the nose  https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/challenge/viewTeamChallenge.do?challengeId=9123THE WINNER IS BIBLEPAY i did statistics and its funny HAHAHAHAHAHAHA BiblePay Current Members 147 Byteball.org Current Members 890 Team China Current Members 3,630 Easynews Current Members 7,843 L'Alliance Francophone Current Members 4,432 Planet 3DNow! Current Members 511 BOINC@AUSTRALIA Current Members 1,095 SETI.Germany Current Members 2,066 BOINC@Poland Current Members 2,570 USA Current Members 289 Thats awesome we are doing 200% better than Byteball with 1/6th the members! Great Job! We're currently leading! Now we need to continue this for 5 more days! |
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Something is wrong with CPID
I don't know what to do....
Please install the BOINC gui (IE apt-get install boincmgr) and check your RAC on your local machine - see how high it is. See if 'exec getboincinfo' shows your cpid. |
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When is mandatory planned? And which block will be the deadline block? Supposedly block 77,700 if we can get a few more tests in testnet within the next 48 hours or so. At this block, we would release : IPFS attachments, no biblepay team requirement, the baby version of business objects (contacts & gospellinks), no forks, and easy to start BOINC for newbies, and some other things. |
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I don't see a problem with WCG rewards ; if anyone has a specific WCG problem please paste CPID and expected RAC.
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slovakiaI tried this pool yesterday. Here is the config. In the statistics of the pool, for my wallet I see only an error: Errormessage = Illegal_CPID addnode=node.biblepay.org
gen=1
genproclimit=1
pool=https://pool.purepool.org
workerid=B5CaFaFbgg2i8fqiMgorjXew28aNfW7tu4
---- {
"Command": "getboincinfo",
"CPID": "8207d91142045cb6d7a81b8e91d264a8",
"Address": "BHfGTogcn36yUY4VH5uEnd1ocT3oXWZnt7",
"CPIDS": "8207d91142045cb6d7a81b8e91d264a8;",
"CPID-Age (hours)": 427188,
"NextSuperblockHeight": 73195,
"NextSuperblockBudget": 1093468,
"8207d91142045cb6d7a81b8e91d264a8_ADDRESS": "BHfGTogcn36yUY4VH5uEnd1ocT3oXWZnt7",
"8207d91142045cb6d7a81b8e91d264a8_RAC": 314.19,
"8207d91142045cb6d7a81b8e91d264a8_TEAM": 15044,
"8207d91142045cb6d7a81b8e91d264a8_WCGRAC": 0,
"8207d91142045cb6d7a81b8e91d264a8_TaskWeight": 0,
"8207d91142045cb6d7a81b8e91d264a8_UTXOWeight": 0,
"Total_RAC": 314.19,
"Total Payments (One Day)": 0,
"Total Payments (One Week)": 0,
"Total Budget (One Day)": 1093468,
"Total Budget (One Week)": 7654276,
"Superblock Count (One Week)": 8,
"Superblock Hit Count (One Week)": 8,
"Superblock List": "72990,72785,72580,72375,72170,71965,71760,71555",
"Last Superblock Height": 72990,
"Last Superblock Budget": 1093468,
"Last Superblock Payment": 0,
"Magnitude (One-Day)": 0,
"Magnitude (One-Week)": 0
}
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getmininginfo
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{
"blocks": 73067,
"currentblocksize": 5420,
"currentblocktx": 18,
"difficulty_podc": 1878.620646574275,
"difficulty_pow": 1902.667392487752,
"difficulty": 1878.620646574275,
"errors": "",
"genproclimit": 1,
"networkhashps": 440712.1001730097,
"hashps": 18.96927934962471,
"minerstarttime": "09-25-2018 10:58:48",
"hashcounter": 97636,
"pooledtx": 21,
"testnet": false,
"chain": "main",
"biblepay-generate": true,
"poolinfo1": "BA3cgTBNea2jrChntZQz4fJbNFzyGtuttx; ",
"poolinfo2": "",
"poolinfo3": "",
"podc_tried": 2,
"podc_sent": 0,
"podc_sent_amount": 0,
"podc_average_amount_sent": 0,
"miningpulse": 109,
"poolmining": true,
"pool_url": "https://pool.purepool.org",
"poolmining_use_ssl": true
}
Tottik and seccocular: If you run this command with your cpid: exec utxoreport 8207d91142045cb6d7a81b8e91d264a8 I see you have not been sending PODC updates. Please try exec totalrac, see if you have enough stakebalance to stake - you need about 6000 bbp to stake a PODC block. Also please leave controller wallet running 24/7 so the podc update can go out. |
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I'm pro disbanding of the foundation and pro enhancing decentralization.
A super-whale can destroy this project by creating and voting on an egotistical proposal with or without a foundation being present. I think that the Masternode governance has to take care of everything budget-related.
Also, I'm pro simplification and in-wallet setup. If users just have to install the wallet and are guided from there through the entire set-up process, that will be a big improvement in UX.
I do not like losing the 'side benefit' of fiat conversions the foundation could have offered, but I think the governmental risk is bad for us and could be a lightning rod. Regarding the actual dissolving of the foundation: Yes, it should be voted on to be voted out, and thats fine, but Im the one that is actually holding up the first meeting and filing the last piece of paperwork. I stopped the process after we spoke about the governmental risks. Frankly Ive been thinking about it every day, wanting to consider reducing the foundation down to a simple 3 member treasury for fiat liquidation only - of course that requires dissolving and re-applying. Another words, I think we still need to solve the mechanics of how we convert BTC to fiat for compassion. And I have not heard back from Compassion yet on the matter. Great point Jaap, about the masternode governance. |
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casper77 biblepay is noob.......when we started this project,we had to mine pow.....stop listen him ... run. 1.starts mining solo or purepool for automatic podcupdates, STOP USING POOL.BIBLEPAY=it looks like my didactic M or zx spectrum 48k graphic skin from 1989,horrible .... his pool would win best amateurs skin in da world POW 2.starts boinc on machines and add email+pass of rosetta or wcg PODC TOGO and ROB=BIBLEPAY is profesional nebulizers,still changing things,earns on shit proposals,they create the conditions best for them last months is orphans our the ball on the leg ... all prices of BBP was dump by sponsoring this orphans im sorry for new users, they must have total mess from all= pow,podc,rosetta,wcg all The code has not changed since we went live with PODC Slovakia. Respectfully, I give out true information to help users. I think what you have been giving is something that works for you. Togo created the manuals based on what the user wants to do. We don't need to train them to heat or pool mine if they only want PODC rewards. The wallet automatically gives them a solo mined (thats POBH) reward if they get lucky. Thats how it was designed, for energy efficiency. Nothing has changed and Im not flip-flopping or trying to confuse people. |
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A billionaire could decide to drop a million dollars on buying BBP, and lets say he buys 300 masternodes and has ultimate control, the thing is, he is still bound by the free market, if this multi-millionaire upsets investors with his decisions and the BiblePay market goes down, his million dollars just lost value, the multi-millionaire is aligned by incentives/disincentives (money) to keep and grow the value of the project, now someone could come here to waste money to sabotage us but its going to be SUPER expensive to do so Understanding the BiblePay Masternode Governance and Budget System http://wiki.biblepay.org/UnderstandingGovernance"Masternode operators are not the only ones interested in the success of BiblePay, but they are the most stable ones because, unlike miners, they can’t reuse their asset for any other purpose or coin." "One advantage of this model is it can survive early adopters. If early masternode operators sell their coins, the new owner can set up a masternode and with it acquire the right to vote on the budgets and projects. This guarantees there is a working system of maintenance as people come and go, making the network capable of sustaining itself on its own without depending on specific actors." Id rather be led by people with money on the line, people who have a lot to lose and a lot to gain, good incentives and disincentives, then to be led by people who have little or no skin in the game and little incentives/disincentives Yes, skin in the game is good. Incentives are good. So is transparency. Securities regulators like the SEC and other government agencies will soon dramatically impact the crypto world, so we might as well be the first to implement best practices. Respectfully Togo, I don't agree that the whale-voting-rights issue will necessarily be solved by free-market forces. At current prices, any atheist bitcoin millionaire could likely make a profit and turn BBP into a joke by first becoming an MN whale, and then proposing/passing the launch of an online porn site where 10% of the profits from it are sent to help orphans. This would attract other investors who believe the idea is a valid money-maker from a free market perspective. So instead of losing money, the evil whale makes money off of the massive publicity generated by the shocking news of a Christian crypto-coin helping orphans by running a porn site. Imagine the amount of free PR. The whale doesn't have to worry about bad publicity personally as a result of his actions. He would be protected by the anonymity and lack of transparency that the current crypto environment gives him. In fact he could plant a few rumors suggesting that he wasn't involved at all, it was those hypocritical Christians doing what they always do. So instead of the investment being "expensive" for the evil whale, BBP becomes another lucrative income stream for him and his followers. There was a time when we were naive brothers, but now we have grown to accept the words of Christ ... "For the sons of this world are more shrewd in dealing with their own generation than the sons of light." "Look, I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves." I cant tell if Im misreading or not, does the Athiest millionaire own the porn site? or will just pass a proposal to work on a porn site? If he owns the porn site, and its PR for the porn site, BiblePay investors would probably sell to get away from this guy, how much is the pornsite PR (additional porn revenue) worth in loss of BBP coins? He will have to sell his BBP coins at a loss becauses investors left If he doesnt own the porn site and its PR for BiblePay and the PR works, the value of BiblePay increases and we all sell at a profit and we can start a new cryptocurrency now with each of us having even more money This is all quite interesting to think about haha lol Togo, you're hilarious! Remember, this is hypothetical scenario.  The point is that under the current MN system, an evil super whale could do whatever he wanted to do. That includes proposing/passing any deal he makes on the side regardless of who it's with, who owns it, etc. Of course I would suspect that many current BBP investors would consider selling to get away from this guy, which could temporarily lower the price depending on how quickly he spread the word about the "new" bbp. Maybe Theymos would sell him a banner to help with advertising. This is good versus evil. The dark novelty of the demented situation would appeal to anti-Christian interests the same way the satirical Jesus Coin does. The evil whale would only be in it for the short haul, so he pumps and dumps his way to financial gain. In this scenario he doesn't have to sell his coins, he chooses to sell them to the influx of anti-Christian buyers. Togo wrote: "If he doesnt own the porn site and its PR for BiblePay and the PR works, the value of BiblePay increases and we all sell at a profit and we can start a new cryptocurrency now with each of us having even more money"lol As Ben Franklin wrote, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." None of this evil porn scenario will ever take place. Our community is under the guidance of the Lord, so we will unite in wisdom and implement reasonable mechanisms to prevent it. A) The millionaire wouldn't be able to buy 51% of the masternodes on the open market, as the price would exponentially grow as they attempt to buy us out. B) I'm with Togo - the scenario doesn't make any sense. Maybe try to think of a better scenario. |
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I'll enter a multiple choice proposal tomorrow morning with more detailed outcomes that might shine a little more light in a more accurate way than the previous poll.
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Hey everyone! Please vote on the proposal and le me know what you think. https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?And Rob, please don't take this personally, I think a spokesperson would be good for us. And I think you should take your Hate group, along with yourself to a new community. Since you apparently don't like BiblePay - and are not forgiving, and are accusing, it's not Christian behavior. I'll take care of being spokeperson for now. And we don't need a project management system with huge amounts of overhead - I'll take care of project management. I wish you would reconsider the removal of the poll. There are many people who love this project, and would like it to succeed. Opinions do not always align, but an open discussion is healthy. Having governance allows for this sort of discussion, but does mean an individual might not have their ideas come to fruition. Removing the poll, removing the discussion is the antithesis of decentralization so please reconsider your actions. No, the poll was worded in a way that we needed Rob to be a programmer only - and an actual spokeperson to represent the community. Not that we needed Rob to be one spokeperson of the coin, and a PR spokeperson to represent the community for PR. So please go back to your hate group and post your opinion with T-Mike and the rest, or start a poll on a non-biblepay forum. I think that some people here are ashamed that I posted about JESUS! Maybe thats it. Well Im not ashamed of JESUS. |
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Hey everyone! Please vote on the proposal and le me know what you think. https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?And Rob, please don't take this personally, I think a spokesperson would be good for us. And I think you should take your Hate group, along with yourself to a new community. Since you apparently don't like BiblePay - and are not forgiving, and are accusing, it's not Christian behavior. I'll take care of being spokeperson for now. And we don't need a project management system with huge amounts of overhead - I'll take care of project management. Sure dictator, and I'm not saying it in a bad way, it's the truth. LOL, thanks, but you are, its not Christian behavior, trying to fracture the community and attack the lead dev. Brilliant t-mike. Just keep posting your hate in your hate group thread, please. I'm pretty democratic. Everyone knows the deleted messages were deleted because they are trash, and don't represent the community well. And I'm not here to be your personal programmer, sorry, I report to God. |
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Hey everyone! Please vote on the proposal and le me know what you think. https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?And Rob, please don't take this personally, I think a spokesperson would be good for us. And I think you should take your Hate group, along with yourself to a new community. Since you apparently don't like BiblePay - and are not forgiving, and are accusing, it's not Christian behavior. I'll take care of being spokeperson for now. And we don't need a project management system with huge amounts of overhead - I'll take care of project management. |
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So lets talk about brainstorming how to pay Compassion slices of USD from BBP/BTC legally without tax risk for the volunteer.
T-Mike brought up the idea of everyone in BBP sponsor their own children, and write to them personally, and turn the receipt in to the governance system for payment. This is great in the sense that it gives personal communication to the child, and it adds a lot of overhead - in the form of a massive quantity of extra gov votes required monthly for the sanc voting (which is fine). The biggest issue is trusting the receipt of each persons submitted payment. We would need to trust the individual receipt posted on the forum thread (which might be fine). So this is one option. (Maybe people do spot checks at compassion to see if children are really sponsored by Customer #X with Name #ABC.) I sent a request to compassion asking them to open an API to us so we can do check by customer account.
Another idea is to find a way to have many volunteers send checks to compassion monthly and receive reimbursement in BBP after the account is credited that specific amount. I suppose each $100 check would need a proposal submitted monthly. We would vote on the checks as we review the compassion statement (for specific credits). Maybe checks could end in random numbers to make it easy to connect the check with the receipt.
Any other ideas are welcome.
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I am pleased to see the openness to change.
On the Sanctuary Simplicity, would it be practical to make a site like Gin where the community could host others Sanctuaries but at a more competitive rate and one that does not primarily benefit another coin?
Foundation / Sanctuary rule - This is fine to change from a Foundation from a centralization standpoint, although it still does not address the issue that a whale could in easily have a controlling share of the Sanctuaries and force their agenda on the community. Then we would be 1) more centralized and 2) less accountable since the whale could be anonymous.
Key-man -This is a good step as right now we're one unfortunate event away from disaster (such as if the fire Rob recently suffered through had not been limited to just property damage).
The main elephant that still is in the room is overall trust. The main members of the community are anonymous. That is atypical in major cryptocurrency projects. There is still concern about how our coins are sold for charity and how that is distributed (yes, there are steps being taken to show the process, but it really needs to be easier to follow and easier to verify, see my post below). If we aim to be a top coin (500/250/100, whatever) trust is the issue that will hold us back in most
I disagree on your comment about a "whale". The free market has never been controlled by one individual, and I assert that after 5 years of existence, BiblePay will still be controlled by a disparate group of individuals with fair voting rights. In addition, if a whale is rich enough to buy biblepay, then its their baby and they can run it into the ground or into the air if they wish. If you think the Masternode model sucks, then you should be promoting other types of coins. I primarily started this as a masternode coin because I agree with the governance model. End of story - its a good model for a sanctuary economy with governance. Yes, I agree a large part of the problem is trust - although I dont agree its trust with biblepay. I agree there is a group here who thinks they shouldnt trust biblepay because they are mistaken. And a lot of people here give way too much weight and credibility to them. I think 50% of what we need to do is revamp our model to educate those who dont trust us. The other half should be addressed at the problems with cryptocurrency trust in general. Before we do that, we need to talk about a better plan for BTC->fiat liquidation for compassion - Ill get to that in a minute. I wanted to make one comment about a personality flaw that I see repeated here - based out of our last version of compassion liquidations. If someone like t-Mike checked on the compassion total Paid up to a point in time - it proves we were 100% with integrity up to that date. I agree having a web site from compassion open to the public would be nice- we asked for it. Ive been emailing Ginger asking IT to respond to my questions about the compassion API (no response yet). |
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616westwarmoth when ill to jump to BB,i have to setup new mining?i hope that not.....only change team and thats all, right? i dont trust https://www.mintnodes.com better/secure choice is build masternode with users from here why 1.masternode was very long preenabled with expired 2.when somebody left from MN,whats next? 3.site can be hack 4.owner can left very untrustable im finding somebody for build new MN: write me PM with how much BBP you have: only future tenants please,thanks for 2% i can to build it for you...im using my machines in my datacenter online spreedsheet+NODE checker will be too for owners of MN I don't understand your first question about jumping to BB... As I understand it, only the TEAMS will be blacklisted. I believe you'll still be able to mine Byteball (and Neumennium, and DCC/SPARK) on the side as long as you aren't part of their team. If that is the case (which I'm 99% sure it is), then you can stay on team BBP, and mine BBP, BB, NEU and DCC. Or you can go to one of the other teams (HARDOCP for instance) and still mine BBP, just there may be a small to moderate penalty for not being on Team Biblepay (much like there is currently a small bonus for being on team Byteball.org). As far as Mintnodes, I would saw it's a good option for someone with open eyes. Its roughly like leaving your coins on an exchange, would not be recommended for large amounts but for someone with no other options, might be worth the risk. In two years, if they're still around and no complaints, then they'll have earned the trust. I can build my own MN, I will build them for others when I have time. I've built three nodes for others, am set to build another one this week, and I run one shared node personally. Please let me clarify the difference between leaving coins on an exchange and leaving on mintnodes: An exchange moves stored balances to cold wallets, and has better experience in preventing web site hacks. (At least, the top 50 exchanges supposedly do). Mintnodes appears to be a new domain run by one individual, and does not appear to have cold wallets in place. So from a hacking perspective I give them a risk level of 10, and bittrex a risk level of 4 for example. No centralized service is perfectly safe. |
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*** HUGE CHANGES IN BIBLEPAY TO IMPROVE OUR COMMUNITY AND HELP OUR CREDIBILITY AND CREATE STRENGTH ***
So this all started when one of our fast participants, Andy from LA offered to help with a few things. Things that resonated with me because we both pray for BiblePay and receive confirmations about issues.
I admit not all of my ideas are going to stick forever - as some are rooted in prior IT experience and not in God's will. So when I hear that God wants to change something about BiblePay, I listen.
There were 3 areas that Andy brought to my attention that resonated: Ease-of-use for investors and users, Key-man risk (dev+governmental), Sanctuary simplicity. You are already seeing some of the changes (with these providers for masternodes like GIN we reached out to in response to the Sanc issue).
For the Ease-of-use part, our complaint was that when an investor arrives on our landing page- they are way too confused. And the page is dark and not full of love. In light of that, Jaap is working on our landing page changes: Show key information to potential investors (Quickly download the wallet, how to trade biblepay, what we do, boilerplate) and he is also adding a brighter background theme and images of children. He is also making it easier for new users to understand how to get started in relation to the next wallet version (which will have a couple more GUI buttons to get started with one click).
Key Man Risk: This started with a conversation from one of Andys clients, wanting to get into BiblePay as a whale, but he was afraid that I was the single point of failure. After showing him the DAO page, many, many changes were put into play. One being that we are working on an internal plan to remove key-man risk in Phase 1 (that is at the end of this month). More info will be given on this today. This will eliminate key-man risk.
Sanctuary Simplicity: The whale would not join unless they find a way for a one-click masternode. In this case, MIP is now creating a script for one-click sanctuaries. We also reached out to GIN who came through for us for decentralized sancs.
This exercise brought up many sub-exercises and new projects for us, which I think in the long run make us stronger and more credible.
The key-man exercise brought up some of the weak points that exist in having a BiblePay foundation.
The problems with the BiblePay foundation are that we were becoming centralized, and "ruled" by only 6 individuals, with governmental systemic risk. This gave the rest of the community the feeling that their masternode investment voting rights were not being used appropriately by biblepay, the biblepay directors were "better" than everyone else (IE could make legal decisions and trample on the rights of the community). Arguably, one of the most important issues raised was the governmental risk involved with a centralized foundation. This was the risk of being a lightning rod for a government to shut down biblepay or force biblepay to add wallet rules that remove anonymity.
In light of all these points, and with the desire to decentralize I feel we should dissolve the biblepay foundation.
The primary reason we started the foundation was to enable conversion of biblepay to Fiat for Compassion.com payments. However, I feel we have other options for this now. All of our other vendors, Kairos, Cameroon One, BLOOM accept BiblePay or Bitcoin. I've reached out to compassion over the weekend to ask if they will set up a dedicated receiving address and accept our payments in Bitcoin. If not, I will provide a homework assignment for the community to find a way to set up a program where we can convert biblepay to fiat for slices of payments to compassion. Another option is to phase out compassion and ramp up sponsoring with orgs who do accept BTC (although Im not recommending this as compassion is $38 per month per child).
As far as Newbie Experience: As you know we recently saw the no-team requirement poll pass, and the reward level to non-biblepay teams set to 100%. In the next version of biblepay, we are trying to make it so a brand new user can mine with very little resistance. This means downloading the wallet, buying the UTXO amount on the exchange, downloading boinc, and clicking "Add me to Rosetta", and then click "Associate". The next version will also show how many tasks are running on the GUI - giving the user the understanding that the wallet is working (without going through RPC commands).
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*** WARNING - MINTNODES ***
I was just taking a look at this site this morning, where we have been listed with Clusternodes: https://www.mintnodes.com/faq
Mintnodes.com I have to warn everyone, I don't think this is a very safe operation. They are concentrating all the deposits into one place, hold all the keys to the crypto, and from what I can see, I don't have any reason to believe they are even creating real masternodes. At the very least it looks like a way that someone can allow $1 mil to pile up and then they can run away with all of it. Additionally Im not sure if its legal, because selling slices of nodes may be viewed as selling securities (and that could cause a shutdown for an sec violation). Imo, we should pull support for this, unless the owner comes forward and proves the funds are stored in a cold wallet and posts the code that creates the masternodes. indeed ... better choice is make MN between ppl like frenchise ... we had MN ... dave,rastiks,etc I just sent an e-mail to mintnodes asking questions. By default I would assume all money put into mintnodes is 100% at risk and may dissapear overnight. |
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As my remember, pool.biblepay.org require register for mining and workerID = namemachine for workerID= wallet you can change to https://pool.purepool.org instead. i already registered there but i will try pool.purepool.org thank you all again You do not need to POW (Heat Mine) to receive PODC rewards. You only need to ensure your wallet is sending 1 PODC update per day (which is supposed to happen automatically if you leave the controller wallet running). You cannot receive WCG rewards without having RAH attached and running currently. That is most likely your problem. Just attach RAH and start at least one task, limit it if you want, and then things should come back for WCG. After the next mandatory, the sancs should technically allow WCG only boincing. Hi Rob, you mean if i put the config file proc=zero then i must type PODC update cmd once a day ? Because the last time i put zero for proc that have no reward also for 2 days. Could you please clear this ? If you do these things I think you will be OK: Remove utxooverride from config Add: genproclimit=1 On Boincing, start crunching RAH again, until you get your full reward, then throttle RAH back to 1% if you want WCG at 99% The UTXO override is not needed. The genproclimit=1 is needed so that the internal miner knows to send a PODC update once every 4 hours. Good luck. Rob PS You can remove genproclimit, as the default = 1 . You can't use zero. PS 2: Technically people do not need to pool mine or heat mine to receive PODC rewards. |
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It's inevitable that crypto decentralization in it's current form will not last. This is because it is rapidly coming under government regulation, as all markets historically do.
The smart choice as Christians is to be among the first in the crypto world to publicly embrace financial transparency and integrity in our procedures.
Good observation. In light of this I'm going to make an announcement today with some recommended changes. |
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