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2501  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: In the next couple of years you will regret not taking bitcoin ✈️ flight on: July 18, 2022, 02:38:50 AM
Still should diversify but going significantly or heavy into bitcoin should be fine as long as it isn't your only option- just my opinion.  There are some worthy shitcoins but be wary as many have no other purpose than to relieve you of your bitcoin.
For shitcoins, better to avoid it. Why we should buy shitcoins if there are a lot of top coins at cheap prices? I don't say no shitcoins are worthy, but top coins deserve to be our priority this time. I sometimes buy altcoins with low market caps, but I never did it during the bearish season. I will focus to buy more Bitcoin with 70% of my funds, and 30% for top altcoins. I agree that diversification is needed, but don't diversify funds to shitcoins.

IMO, DWYOR

2502  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: If Bitcoin drops to $8k on: July 18, 2022, 12:00:11 AM
If Bitcoin really reaches $8000 then people's confidence in crypto currency will decrease a lot. Many people have already lost faith in Bitcoin because of some coin scams.
Many people may panic if Bitcoin drops to $8000. But that doesn't mean all people will begin to leave Bitcoin. For those people who believe in Bitcoin future, it should be a time to buy Bitcoin at a very cheap price. More drops, real Bitcoin holders probably buy more. By the way, I assume only people with a weak trust in Bitcoin who are worried about Bitcoin and think it to drop to $8000. While for people who are confident with Bitcoin, I am sure they never think that Bitcoin price to drop below $10000, even if it is not impossible.

2503  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Age of bitcoiners on: July 17, 2022, 11:53:49 PM
I'm sure the result will be 31-35, 35-40 years of age will get the maximum votes.
So far, according to current vote results, most bitcoiner ages are around 30 - 45. It means most bitcoiners are mature people who probably have enough knowledge about digital investment. I'm not surprised with the current result since mature people who probably brave enough to spend their money on holding Bitcoin. While for young people, it seems a bit risky for them, so they are not brave enough.

This time we can see a good number of youngsters, which means the freshers/beginners with few years of experience in a job.
Yep. Since Bitcoin is more popular and having Bitcoin becomes a usual thing, more young people are interested to join Bitcoin investment. It is a good sign that we will have the young generation of bitcoiners.

2504  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: July 15, 2022, 09:59:44 PM
With Ten Hag's statement that he wants to keep Ronaldo next season I think actually in this case the chances of him moving are very slim now ~
Agree. It seems Ronaldo to stay in Man United next season. Ten Hag may realize that the chance to get a replacement for Ronaldo is difficult. Moreover, Ronaldo actually performed well in the last season. So, nothing wrong to keep him on the squad. If Man United can't finish in the top 4 last season, it doesn't mean Ronaldo can't play well. Lately, I don't hear more rumors about Ronaldo moving to Bayern, PSG, Barcelona, AS Roma, or PSG. We only heard a rumor that Ronaldo to move to Chelsea, but it is unlikely to happen since Chelsea is a serious rival of Man United.

2505  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: July 15, 2022, 09:57:51 PM
Really surprised to see Raphina is now a Barcelona player, I must say I thought Chelsea were going to sign him at all cost, I must say for a team like Barcelona who many news has said they are in Debt, they have really done a great job in the transfer market ~
Previously, I think Raphina isn't interested to join Barcelona and Chelsea is almost to get a deal at that time. But when I heard a rumor that Raphina seems not to join Chelsea, I have speculated that he will go to Barcelona. I don't know why Raphina finally decides to join Barcelona, but he probably has a dream to join it since he was a kid. I assume he actually will get a bigger salary in Chelsea. But he prefers to join Barcelona because Barcelona is more famous.

2506  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 15, 2022, 09:52:02 PM
I think next season we will see Chelsea in the top 3 of the points table. The gameplay of the Chelsea team is stable. Their coach Tuchel is very experienced. They buy Raheem Sterling to strengthen the forward. Raheem Sterling performed very well in Manchester City. They also brought in Koulibaly to strengthen the defense. They are probably forming a team to win the title.
Too early to claim this. Having Sterling and Koulibaly on Chelsea squad doesn't guarantee that Chelsea will perform well. These players must need time to adapt, they may have difficulties playing at their best level in the first season. While having Tuchel as an experienced coach, it is something usual, nothing special with this. Other top teams in EPL also have experienced coaches. And even, they also signed top players as well during this transfer window. So, it should be difficult to know which team to be in the top 3 next season.

2507  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Crypto Airdrop Sharing on: July 15, 2022, 09:47:22 PM
Most airdrops are indeed not worth your time, but neither are most bounty campaigns. It is quite hard to find a good and interesting bounty campaign on this forum that will yield in tokens that will later be tradeable on big exchanges.
Yep. Nowadays, both bounty and airdrop of new altcoins aren't recommended to join. It is difficult for new altcoins to have a good value during this bearish season. You probably only waste time joining bounties or airdrops. But it is no problem if you want to speculate by joining a bounty or an airdrop. There should be an altcoin from a bounty or an airdrop that can have good value although the chance to get it is quite small.

2508  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can trading be likened to gambling and how so? on: July 15, 2022, 09:41:02 PM
Trading may end up like gambling if the trader alone also thinks that way, and that he can’t be sure of what he’s really into so he considers trading like gambling. Although it’s way too different for us who are into gambling and trading at the same time, but for some who are still newbies both in trading and gambling, it’s not surprising that their views on them will be somehow confusing. But one thing is certain, trading guarantees more profits if you also trade with knowledge and positive experiences. And you make use of your proven strategies to gain and win.
Well, it is true that it depends on how to trade and how the knowledge of a trader. If he has sufficient knowledge and trade using a good strategy, it won't lead to a gambling result (success opportunity 50:50). I mean the chance to succeed in trading can be higher if a trader knows well how to trade properly. While in gambling, commonly the chance to win is always 50:50 because success is based on luck. However, if a trader uses a haphazard way in trading, the success opportunity probably will be the same as gambling.

2509  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Question for Legendary Members on: July 15, 2022, 09:29:04 PM
I'm just curious when did you start learning crypto?
I started learning crypto in early 2018 before I created my account. I know crypto and this forum from my friend. In the beginning, it was rather difficult to understand crypto since it was purely something new for me. But after reading some articles and joining some discussions on the forum for several months, I started to understand it little by little. After a few years, I know many things about crypto but that doesn't mean I know everything related to crypto.  Wink

Seeing posts from legendary members make me wonder how long they've been into crypto. I mean did they already knew much about crypto before their account was created here. You'll see on their posts that they have really deep knowledge about how cryptocurrencies and blockchain works.
What do you mean by "legendary" here? Does it mean "account rank" or "certain members who have a big role in this forum"?
If you mean an account rank, legendary doesn't guarantee anything. Not each legendary knows much crypto, even some legendary accounts have lack knowledge about crypto. Don't easily conclude that being legendary means mastering knowledge of crypto or blockchain. Legendary is only an account rank, doesn't always imply the capability of someone.

2510  Economy / Economics / Re: The fear of Bitcoin monopoly in El Salvador on: July 14, 2022, 11:17:34 PM
I can understand that El Salvador embraced Bitcoin but their way of investing was so haphazard as if they had never consulted anyone who is an expert in financial analysis or good at reading charts.
I really doubt that they never consulted or have no crypto experts. El Salvador is a country, President Nayib Bukele won't be brave to invest in crypto if he has no experts. It is crazy if a president invests in crypto in haphazard ways. However, I agree that President Nayib Bukele is sometimes too hurry to buy Bitcoin. He actually has much time to buy at the lower rates during the bearish season. He may be too confident that BTC price really flies to $100k someday, so he doesn't really care about BTC price in the near future.



*They probably have experts at reading charts. But BTC price moves are sometimes unpredictable, reading charts don't always be effective.

2511  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: July 14, 2022, 10:50:56 PM
Chelsea are rumoured with many defenders currently. Kimpembe is among these candidates also. However I don't think that PSG will be eager to sell him to Chelsea. Because he is already a regular player in the starting eleven of PSG. The biggest candidate for now is Nathan Ake now. Manchester City are already willing to let him go and they think of bringing Kounde to his place. It looks like Chelsea will complete the signing of Nathan Ake soon.
The latest news about Nathan Ake's transfer is that Chelsea agreed to pay £45 million. It seems to get a deal, Man City is likely to be satisfied with the current offer. Since Chelsea already got a personal agreement with the player, it is only about time to wait for Chelsea official announcement related to signing Nathan Ake. I assume Chelsea doesn't need another center-back if they successfully sign Ake from Man City. So, the rumor about Chelsea interest in Kimpembe will be over. It is true that Kimpembe is the main player of PSG, they won't let Kimpembe leaves.

2512  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: July 14, 2022, 10:37:04 PM
I predict Benzema will win the 2022 Ballon d'Or because his performances last season were very good (from 46 matches he played, he managed to score 44 goals and make 15 assists) and he had a big contribution that led Real Madrid to win La Liga and the Champions League. Vinicius did make a contribution too and he has also played regularly in the Real Madrid squad, but overall he's still not as good as Benzema.
I agree with you, mate. Benzema's role in the last season was very crucial, absolutely better than Vinicius and other players in the Real Madrid squad. He is one of the reasons why Real Madrid can win UCL trophy and La Liga title. We can say the Benzema factor that leads Real Madrid to win every single match last season. There were many moments when Benzema's goals became a determinant of Real Madrid's journey to win the Champions in UCL and La Liga. Moreover, the number of his goals and assists in La Liga simply shows us who deserves to be the winner of Ballon d'Or. Benzema is clearly the favorite to win it.


2513  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 14, 2022, 10:25:08 PM
Napoli has just started looking for Koulibaly replacement and reported they targeting Manchester United player Eric Bailly and they were confident will get this player because Bailly is not in Ten Hag's plans for next season and also Napoli can guaranted him will playing regularly and actually since last season Napoli interested want to bought him but Manchester United has rejected their offers
If Napoli is serious to sign Eric Bailly, it will be easy for now. Man United successfully signed Lisandro Martinez from Ajax, there is a rumor that Man United is no longer interested to keep Eric Bailly and Phil Jones. It makes sense that Man United needs to sell some old center-backs because there are too many center-backs now. Since Eric Bailly and Phil Jones are old players and they mostly sit on the bench, it is better to leave Man United. Napoli even can get two of these center-backs at cheap prices if they are interested. I am sure Man United won't set expensive prices for Eric Bailly and Phil Jones since they are only substitution players.

2514  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Bitcoin manage to grow over time? on: July 14, 2022, 09:13:54 PM
There are probably many users here who are living in countries where Bitcoin is not legalized. But they are still buying, selling, and converting Bitcoin to their local fiat currency. They're probably even spending Bitcoin.

Bitcoin doesn't need any support from the government in order for it to be adopted by its own people. Bitcoin is already what it is. It doesn't need to be regulated in order for it to be worth trusting and hodling.
We cannot deny that we need support from our government. We cannot convert our Bitcoin to our local currency if the government totally bans every activity related to crypto and Bitcoin. We even won't have a single local exchange if crypto or Bitcoin is not allowed or illegal. For example in my country, Bitcoin cannot be used as a payment tool. If we use it to pay any goods or services, we can be fined or jailed for breaking the law. So, it is untrue that we don't need support from the government. It is like avoiding reality.  Undecided

2515  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Anget] Ramai Perbincangan "Tail Emission" Bitcoin on: July 14, 2022, 08:56:27 AM
Satu-satunya cara untuk menerapkan Tail Emission di bitcoin adalah memberikan keyakinan pada komunitas bahwa Tail Emission adalah ide yang bagus, karena memiliki beberapa kelebihan seperti suplai bitcoin yang tetap karena tambahan suplai akan sebanding dengan koin-koin yang hilang karena kecelakaan dll pada setiap periode.
Pertanyaannya, gimana caranya supaya semua komunitas yakin kalau Tail Emission ini solusi yang bagus?

Saya tidak begitu yakin kalau Tail Emission ini bagus untuk semua kalangan. Yang diuntungkan, menurut saya hanya bagi para miner dan orang-orang yang menggunakan BTC sebagai payment tool. Sedangkan untuk investor, akan merugikan jika dengan adanya Tail Emission menyebabkan volatilitas menjadi rendah dan harga cenderung stabil.

Dalam pemahamanan sederhana saya, ide Tail Emission ini bagus untuk BTC sebagai money (currency). Sedangkan untuk BTC sebagai alat investasi, ide ini bisa berdampak buruk ke depannya. Ada kemungkinan akan ada penurunan minat orang-orang untuk berinvestasi di BTC jika volatilitas rendah dan harga cenderung predictable. Daya tarik investasi BTC terletak pada high volatilitynya dan unpredictable.

Terikait dengan supply BTC, 21 juta itu jumlah idealnya jika tidak ada BTC yang hilang dari peredaran. Sedangkan pada kenyataannya supply BTC ini terus berkurang karena banyak faktor. Apa jadinya jika supply ditetapkan 21 juta sedangkan pada kenyataannya jauh dari angka tersebut. Hal ini bisa saja berimbas pada hilangnya trust komunitas.

BTW penurunan jumlah supply BTC harusnya hal positif kan? Karena semakin kurang supply kemungkinan nilainya semakin tinggi. (Prinsip ekonomi, supply-demand)

CMIIW



Om OP @mu_enrico, sedikit request dari saya.
Mungkin bisa sedikit jelaskan kaitan Tail Emission ini dengan volatilitas harga Bitcoin jika benar-benar akan diterapkan ke depannya.



cek cek: https://twitter.com/stephanlivera/status/1541291835926188033

2516  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2021/2022 on: July 14, 2022, 02:00:52 AM
Manchester United defeated Liverpool yesterday and that winning have sparked hopes for the club's fans, but the ultimate question is, will Manchester United keep a consistent winning strides all through this new season. The last season was one of the worst season in Manchester United history.
We surely can't determine how Man United performance next season based on 1 pre-season match only. But this good result rises hope for better performance for the next season. It makes sense that Man United fans assume Man United to have better performance since Man United has a new coach and some new players. Moreover, they have just won a big match yesterday, which is a positive sign. By the way, a bad performance in the last season happened because of many factors. And that factors seem to be fixed gradually. I can understand why Man United fans have a big hope now.

2517  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: July 13, 2022, 11:59:20 PM
Power ranking balloon d'or showed Benzema in the first position and Sadio Mane on second position so obviously Benzema has good chance to get this award for season 2022 but i don't know if the position still possible to changed because this power rangking updated on may and i think Vinicius or Benzema both of them are deserved to this award because they were help Madrid to get LaLiga and champion league trophy but indeed Vinicius can developer good in Madrid because since arrived on 2018 he can showed good progress for his performance
We don't predict Vinicius to win balloon d'or in the near future. It should be in the next few years. For now, Benzema is the favorite to win it since he performed impressively in the last season. I even don't think that Vinicius can be nominated to win balloon d'or for the last season. It is not his time to qualify on balloon d'or. But for the next few years, it is not impossible that he can win balloon d'or if he can consistently improve his performance and play regularly as the main left-winger in Real Madrid lineup.

2518  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: July 13, 2022, 11:57:43 PM
after the departures of A. Rüdiger (real madrid) and A. Christensen (fc barcelona), fc chelsea is reportedly interested in napoli defender Kalidou Koulibaly and offers the italian club a transfer fee of €40 million
It is a good idea to sign Kalidou Koulibaly. Although he is no longer young, it can ensure Chelsea has a good defense for the next few seasons. For me, he deserves to have a price of around €40 million, he is the main center-defender on Napoli and performed well there. As far as I know, Kalidou Koulibaly has been a mainstay of Napoli in recent seasons. There are not many options for strong center-backs that can be signed in this transfer window. It is great that Chelsea negotiates to sign Koulibaly quickly.

2519  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Juwita bahar juga ikutan melaunching token crypto on: July 13, 2022, 11:46:43 PM
tidak masalah jika para artis ingin terjun ke dunia kripto, hanya saja mereka harus lebih selektif lagi dalam memilih pengembang token yang ingin bekerja sama dengan mereka agar potensi scam bisa di hindari
Terjun ke dunia crypto tidak mesti harus dengan membuat proyek crypto, saya pribadi lebih suka kalau para artis ini ikut investasi daripada bikin proyek crypto yang gak jelas arahnya. Apalagi dengan trend market bearish seperti saat ini, sulit mencari investor. Selain demand untuk membeli crypto anyar menurun, jikapun investor mau membeli koin untuk next bullish, mereka lebih cenderung membeli BTC atau altcoins yang sudah punya reputasi/track-record bagus.

Kebanyakan artis terlalu buru-buru bikin proyek dan milih developer. Padahal belum paham betul dunia crypto, tapi nyoba-nyoba bikin proyek crypto. Al hasil, ketika proyeknya jalan, tidak siap dengan masalah yang timbul. Bukan hanya masalah harga token, tapi juga masalah pengelolaan proyek yang kurang professional dari developer. Wajar kalau investor tiba-tiba exit atau urung join proyeknya.

2520  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [PENTING] Pemula Waspadalah Terhadap Scammers on: July 13, 2022, 11:18:30 PM
Saya sudah memberitahu beberapa teman untuk tidak lagi membagikan tautan afilasi website tersebut karena bisa jadi akan lebih banyak orang yang ditipu kalau seandainya website ini membahayakan privasi dan data penting pengguna lain. Tapi serba salah juga karena mereka tidak langsung percaya kalau belum terbukti tentang apa yang sudah saya jelaskan.
Yang penting sudah mencoba memberitahu, Om. Selebihnya silahkan mereka pikir sendiri. Toh kalau misalnya beneran scam, mereka yang share link bisa ikutan kena imbasnya karena berkontribusi menyebarkan scam. Kadang ada orang-orang yang lupa berpikir logic ketika lihat potensi uang yang bisa didapatkan, nah mereka ini pasti gak bakal percaya kalau belum kena batunya atau lihat contoh korbannya langsung.

Ada beberapa yang sudah mencapai batas minimum penarikan tetapi masih harus melengkapi syarat untuk mendapatkan 30 referral. Sampai disini semua pengguna masih tertahan karena tidak semua orang percaya kalau website tersebut benar-benar membayar mudah seperti yang tersebut diawal. Di Chipmixer saja $300 harus kerja memposting minimal 50 post selama seminggu, tapi website ini $300 bisa dicapai dalam satu hari, geli-geli lucu bacanya karena tasknya cuma nonton, main game dan dapatkan referral.
30 referral? Jumlahnya ini cukup banyak, bukan perkerjaan mudah. Apalagi kalau sampai meminta untuk memberikan data privasi. Kalau saya pribadi, dengan resiko dan syarat seperti ini, sudah otomatis saya skip. Terlebih lagi dengan iming-iming $300 per hari, terlalu muluk menurut saya. Selain itu, toh ada yang sampai limit juga masih dimintai memenuhi syarat lain. Bisa jadi setelah syarat itu terpenuhi, mereka minta syarat lain. Dengan hal-hal yang rumit dan tidak pasti seperti ini, patut dicurigai ada yang tidak beres.

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