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2501  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: August 25, 2016, 03:53:46 AM
Have a good planning, and in addition to planning, proper implementation is essential in the process. Wink
yeah, planning is a really important thing in my opinion because it can help you to spend your money on the things you really need
Without planning you have no direction, you can save but you will not be satisfied with your savings and you will still continue to do it. We have to note that saving is not only the most important thing as investing is the key to earn while saving is just for future emergencies and for leisure maybe.
2502  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How about this for a winning run ($7600 made this evening) on: August 25, 2016, 03:49:37 AM
I think the OP is not posting his picks anymore, I do not know if Allah still whispers him the right bet or Allah is tired of him. LOL, just kidding. Seriously, where are you OP I am waiting for your bets to be posted.
2503  Economy / Economics / Re: Why You Should Never Sell Your Bitcoins Ever on: August 25, 2016, 03:44:42 AM
Lol so the op want to keep our btc and not spend it. Whats the point of having bitcoin? Just wait for the price to rise and then sell it. Keeping bitcoin is a good investment but the fluctuation doesnt favor to us. So some just panic sell it to avoid losing.
I think for avoiding that we must continue to be patient because it is a key benefit in investing in bitcoin. if you want to hold bitcoin and profited from it you must remain quiet when prices fall and you have to be patient to wait for prices to rise it is a method to avoid panic seling

Yeah you should not panic even if price is going down, but just hold your coins tight and wait for the price rise as price ups and downs will always be a part of bitcoin ecosystem.
waiting is always the key thing to do if you want to make profit with cryptocurrencies, in my opinion it can solve all the problems of price drops
Not only waiting because you cannot wait forever, when you wait you need to set a target amount before you will sell your bitcoins. Monitoring also the market regularly is very important so we can have a timely decision about our investment.
2504  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: August 25, 2016, 03:37:11 AM
If I were rich I would certainly do something more lucrative as an investment. Because it would supplement my income properly. Although I gamble it is just to have fun and my entertainment.
That should be the way to gamble when you are rich, we focus on the fun and not on the money. Anyway, there is no sense in gambling when you are focusing on money when you are already rich, as long as there is a discipline rich people will enjoy gambling more.

I agree, if you are already rich then you won't matter losing anymore when gambling. You will just do it for your own pleasure without thinking how much you will lose. It doesn't matter to you if you win or not. Your only goal is to gamble in your heart's desire until you are tired doing it.

but if I can get rich from gamble then I will not gamble anymore, I will make my offline business and make investment on gold. but I think there just in my dream  Grin
yeah agree with you. maybe if I become rich someday. I would not use gambling to my bitcoin growing methods. because it would be very risky for my wealth. I will use a more secure method but if I just play for fun in gambling. maybe it's not a problem?




As long as you keep it under control and as a hobby, gambling for fun will not put a risk to your wealth, so donīt worry.
One thing I am certain is that rich are good in managing their hobby, and though they are gambling I know they will not be addicted as they have more matured thinking than us, they will protect their money at all cause so they will just gamble for fun.
aside from knowing how to control there money they also value it because they know how hard to get it, and most of the rich gamblers do more research about the game before they enter so they having fun and they are also earning from it. thinking wisely about there hard earned money.
They have the privileged to enjoy more in gambling as they have a lot of money to spend. They do not care if they lose big in the eyes of the people but what is more important to them is they will enjoy. We have different ways to spend our money to be happy and gambling is one of that.
2505  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: August 25, 2016, 03:26:01 AM
Gold for people who like stable income and don't like to risk, and also you should know how to work with gold, i don't know how so im using bitcoins.
Initially, gold also has the course of its value, which is raised then lowered. This is the first kind of opportunities to make money on the difference in price, similar to bitcoin trades. Risks to work a lot like a gold currency, and with bitcoin. We need to start knowledge
yes mate considering bitcoin as a gold of internet we can trade it into the price we desire depending on its demand looking into perspective if gold is a sign of richness before now we can say that if you have a lot of bitcoin holding you are also rich by now, i prefer to hold or to choose bitcoin because you can kept it much easier.
If gold is the physical body, the bitcoin is air. How many attacks on the exchange bitcoin survive, as it was with bitfinex? How will jump cryptocurrency price if the market will be a fever? Gold is stable.

We all know that gold is stable and it is going to keep on rising as the time goes by but what happened with bitfinex is that we are not expecting that to happen and it is always been possible at all as many people are craving for big money. Maybe that is the good characteristics of gold even a big company is going to be stolen a lot of gold still the price of gold is going to be the same.

gold goes down too. it is not always rising but in general it is a more stable thing to invest in because of the magnitude of the market and the fact that gold has been around forever and many people are investing in it.
It goes up but it will not stay for long unlike in bitcoin, gold is more stable as of the moment and it is a good investment when you can afford to do that, but we do not have a choice, we select bitcoin base on our range on what we can afford, besides it promises more profit once succeeded in the future.
2506  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: August 25, 2016, 03:21:50 AM
It depends on the level of stability that you get in the activity that you perform.
yeah I think if you've got a fixed income in bitcoin and you get good conditions and circumstances in the sense that you get the feeling of security in bitcoin. it may be time for you to consider to working full time in bitcoin. maybe I'll do the same thing. but now I'm enjoy in real life jobs
a good choice to keep your real job. because it will be difficult to re looking for a real job, if one day you do not get good results from bitcoin. bitcoin be a very good for side job if you just do a signature campaign, mining or holding.

Right, for real jobs have warranty or we are warranted in some things that cannot be given by bitcoin. But if you are someone who wants to get out of work and want to be an entrepreneur then you can make a payment online stores that use the bitcoin. It's even better than the real jobs that must be hard work

to be enterpreneur we not only must have skill, but we must have capital too.
i think leaving for realjob without have any capital is very bad idea.

i think better we focus at both of them, we can get 2 salary then we can save more money for capital in future
Thats the wise solution here would be keep both earning from two sides, and be able to invest the bitcoin earnings into something good, banks usually offer some good services and risk almost zero.
I dont even consider left my work even if i make 4btc monthly, knowing its something like 8x my salary but bitcoin project and potencial earnings are something that bitcoin cant assure me i will get those ammount always.
Well, if you can still do your job better and earn in bitcoin at the same time there is no reason to live your job. I am sure most of us here are working in real life and at the same time earning in bitcoin, unless you are a developer you need to devote your time with bitcoin.
In my case, I do not intend to last in my day job. My body is tired and I want to stay with my family while working and I can only do that with the opportunity bitcoin has given me, doing some kind of trading and investing is my game in the future once my savings are already achieve.
2507  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: August 25, 2016, 03:18:51 AM
The worst mistake is when i play the dice game and then i play with 90% winning chance with small bet, after i got bored because the payment is quite small so i change from auto bet to manual bet, and click the max button, i thought that i still bet with 90% chance, but in the manual bet it is 50% winning chance and then i am busted lost 0.02 in one bet

the 90% winning chance is not good in my opinion, in fact i don't like any otehr chance of winning other than 50% because in any other like high chances you win a tiny amount of bitcoin if you win and in the opposite type you win a lot but you will never win anything.
90% chance in dice does not give you an advantage because the payout is also low, you are just living in fantasy if you think you can win in the long run doing that method, anything as long as in dice in the long run we all lose. No strategy will work.
2508  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: August 25, 2016, 03:14:40 AM
It is as much as your effort concern . Your earning will defends on how you will invest, bet or work your bitcoin . If you'll invest it in most trusted sites then it might help. Keep on earning as much as you can and try to enjoy the games and effectiveness of bitcoin.
Definitely we should focus on how much we will invest in gambling sites because when we play there is a little chance to earn money. Gambling is design for fun of the gamblers and business for the operators and we know gambling is profitable for them so we have to invest.

If you are going to make gambling as a source of your profit then I would say that you are not going to earn big on it.

But if you are going to make gambling as a source of entertainment only, then you are just going to win without any notice suddenly.

There is no exact amount on how much you can earn with it, maybe depending only on your luck.
If you will consider gambling as a source of your income then I would you are already good as only few can do that. Anyone who can do that, I will that as a gifted person, imagine you do not need to work anymore as you can earn money staying at home.
2509  Economy / Economics / Re: How to earn money with bitcoin ? on: August 25, 2016, 03:10:24 AM
There are many ways to earn money with bitcoin, the popular one is signature campaign and the other is faucets, do some task like tweet and follow, join giveaway.

Yeah, it all depends on your needs. If indeed you need a btc manner free fast but then all he mentioned you can do > Because we just have to obey or comply with regulations. stay focused and look for potential yourself in the bitcoin
in fact for the layman, it would be very difficult to know what the signature campaign, even I was also confused when searching about the signature campaign. but I guess that is the best way to get bitcoin. I also feel that very many ways you can do to generate many bitcoin, maybe one of them is by trading

Well we all know that signature campaign is one of the best way to earn bitcoins but there also good ones to consider. Especially when you are a skilled person then you can offer it to the services section. And once you work was done properly and you satisfied your customer here in forum. For sure that is going to build trust after all.
Signature campaigns are definitely one of the easiest ways to make a good amount of Bitcoin relatively easily and not have to invest too much time into it, but there are definitely other methods which are a bit more time intense, but also make a considerable amount more Bitcoin than what you'd get out of a signature campaign. They also come with more risk and basically a requirement of having a bit more knowledge of everything, but there are better activities overall most of the time.
Signature provides us not only bitcoin but also the opportunity to use in to increase our income, as a person we like to have a lot of money to enjoy life, bitcoin is the key to that but your earning in signature campaign is not that big so you need to be smart and use it in different investment to increase your income.
2510  Economy / Goods / Re: Selling Iphone 5 16 gb white! on: August 24, 2016, 09:17:21 AM
Since you are a newbie you are not allowed to demand from us to send money first, post the picture here so we can see how legitimate with your offer, sorry to offend you mate but most scammers here are newbie and we just want to protect this forum from scammers.

Prove yourself you are not one of them.
2511  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: August 24, 2016, 09:07:29 AM
I am only currently earning a little from signature campaign and would not consider giving up my day job for what I make with bitcoin. And with bitcoin's price being volatile, it's a little hard to go consider going full time on it. It's a great form of extra income and investment and I would still continue to do this as long as my day job isn't taking up too much of my time.

Earning from signature campaign is not enough for us to make a living... Actually it would consume most of our time if it is the only source of our income... We should have an alternative or as much as possible we should have atleast a good job that pays bitcoin equal to our salary in our day job or more, if it is lesser than that, I think that won't be enough to go full time in it...  Smiley

Quitting day job to focus on a signature campaign is not a wise decision. Unless you are part of a campaign that has no maximum limits  of daily posts and the most that you post in a day payment is more than your daily job rate. However, please bear in mind also that this is going to be tough - you know, posting comments all day 'till night must be a boring thing to do, right?

Another thing to bare in your minds that  signature campaigns is not stable they may run a few months ago but  it doesnt guarantee you that it would run forever since those  who are running campaigns does have a budget limit on those project which it makes that i has limitation and duration. Therefore, if you fully depend on your signature campaigns earning then it would be still a risky thing.

It is true that signature campaign  is not here to stay forever.  anytime the campaign we are participating might shutdown. Another thing is,  you won't  have a proper kind of living if you have only this signature campaign as your source of income.   If you have the skill to code, design or develop a web, then probably that would be a great path to go because it can give  you a good amount of income.
The reality is when a certain campaign closes there are new that will open so you can still work. Signature campaign will not be lost as bitcoin is very progressive and this people who are business minded will take the opportunity to start their business and they need us to promote.
2512  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your gambling strategy on: August 24, 2016, 09:02:52 AM
Well most of the stragies discussed here are either not working or common sense like "martingale" because think about it. If someone had a winning strategy don't you think they would keep it a secret?

Any strategies in gambling will not work in the long run, they all work for sometimes only. If that is true then by now many casinos should be closed but they always in profits and looking to expand their games so that they can earn more money. Just get the fun and enjoyment from those games, when you're bored instead trying to find ways to earn from it.
If that is your thinking that you will lose in the long run then you will never win. A gambler will only win if he believes in the first place that he has a chance to win. When you think you have a chance you will experiment a good method and time will come you will achieve a working method that will give you consistent win.
2513  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way to manage money? on: August 24, 2016, 08:55:30 AM
The best way is find a guy who know how to do this and pay him for it, but you should know him or he must be trusted with many replys and other stuff.

Lol why look for a guy to manage your own money?  Why not do it your own?  This  is very sensitive because anytime, this guy can run with your money  or if something not good happen, you might be in a dispute state because of you lose your money while in his hand.  As much as possible do not  let other people manage your own money.
We do not need to trust our money with someone, we can always makes an arrangement with banks that we will constantly deposit and sign and waiver to restrict us from withdrawing our money until a certain period has lapse, I think that would be good and more safer.
2514  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to make money on bitcointalk? on: August 24, 2016, 08:50:52 AM
Signature and avatar campaign is the best way to earn money on bitcointalk, please visit this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0
you can try it ! But I think that with your activity you can not do much.

He is already a member now so I think he can earn a good amount of money if his demand is not that big, actually for a signature campaign considered as a way to earn money that is already a blessing on our stay here but we cannot just focus on that as there are more opportunities here that we can earn bigger.

That's right, and we could still try other methods to earn, we should not limit ourselves and we should always have an option and a back up so when the first job broke up, atleast we have another one or two jobs on the line... Signature campaign alone won't give you high earning and just enough compensation, just right to buy a candy or anything that is cheap every day...  Smiley
I agree, with the amount of earnings here it could no suffice for our needs in a daily basis, especially those who have a bigger family and the bread winner at the same time they are in demand of more money to give comfort to their family, we work hard in real job and it is a blessing we have bitcoin as our side job.
2515  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: August 24, 2016, 08:46:02 AM
If you had to convert all your wealth to either Bitcoin or gold and keep it there for 10 years, which would you choose? Keep in mind the fact that Bitcoin has only been around for 5 years, and could be fundamentally different in any number of ways in 10 years.

Gold have using value added . that mean for long time will more safe than bitcoin. However, in short-time bitcoin value almost like gold. then people with less money can keep bitcoin for 5 or 10 years

With a little amount of investment we have a great chance to earn more profit investing rather than in gold, we choose our investment base on what we have and speaking of little investment that would be good for gold if you want a decent profit, we have to gamble with the future of bitcoin.
2516  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: WAVES. Ultimate crypto-tokens blockchain platform. on: August 24, 2016, 08:41:59 AM
I am not worried as long as you are giving a good updates, if gives me more confidence to hold my waves and I am not selling it for a lose like the others did. No reason to make profit fast guys if it will not last. Thank twiggy, I am one of those who are holding and trusting the developers sasha.
2517  Economy / Economics / Re: Investing Bitcoins? on: August 24, 2016, 08:07:21 AM
Best way is invest in bitcoins and playing with them on exchanges! Every other solution is few percentage per month, and you can achieve that in few days if you are good and not greedy too much.
Trading is mostly the suggestions of everyone here and I do believe that is profitable activity which would give you a good amount of money in a short period of time, that depends on our skills and knowledge as not all are good in trading so we have to evaluate our capacity first.
2518  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: August 24, 2016, 08:03:44 AM
the best way to save money is to manage the money we have. we have to be clever in managing income and expenses. so we can save money to secure the future. investing in gold is also becoming one of the safest ways to save money you have.
thats true, managing is the key thing if you want to save a lot of money in the future, i think that also you shouldnt be gambling money
Gambling will destroy your method in saving your money especially when you are not good in managing your emotion in gambling as there is a big risk that you might spend your savings in gambling alone, stay away on that as that is a destruction to your focus to accumulate a good amount of money in the future.
2519  Other / Archival / Re: Do you use bitcoin as currency or investment? on: August 24, 2016, 02:28:21 AM
I use Bitcoin as currency and as investment , because I don't have any balances in other online banks like Paypal or Payza which restrict my country , so I use Bitcoin as currency when I want to buy some thing from the internet , but in other cases , I prefer to hold my Bitcoin for the future .
the same for me, it is really use to do shopping online and it is a best investment option i can think of right now, bitcoin is just a perfect currency

This is so true, during the next months and years I plan to purchase bitcoin but bitcoin its incredible useful as a currency that I cannot stop myself from buying stuff that I really need.

It's just fine as long as you are happy with what you really want. It's your coins after all.

And besides using it as a currency sometimes by other persons is a big help to spread coins in the market, hence it will also help bitcoin to be more popular at least in the economic world.
And you are the one who are taking the risk, it is good that you like to use bitcoin as you investment as it has a good potential it will give you a fortune in the future when you raise to invest a good amount of money.

By regularly busing bitcoins it could help a lot to accumulate a bigger value in the future.
2520  Economy / Economics / Re: Why have Bitcoin instead of cash? on: August 24, 2016, 02:23:37 AM
because the value of cash can decrease from day to day, but if you invest your cash in bitcoin the price of bitcoin is expecting to increase, therefore it is better to keep your assets in bitcoin instead of cash.
and it will be decreasing because there is more and more money being printed out, in my opinion bitcoins are way better because of that
In terms of investment bitcoin will dominate as it has no inflation unlike in cash but it terms of currency cash will win over bitcoin as cash are accepted anywhere in the world and it is more convenient to use than bitcoin.
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