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2521  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is It good For The Casinos And The Accusers If .. on: January 12, 2023, 02:45:31 PM
It's their choice where they want to settle the case, if the casino operators ask the complainant to settle this on other platforms and they both agree then its good but a complainant cannot be stopped to open a thread here because this is a forum and we can post topics as long as it is according to the forum rules, and it is posted the right section, but it should be noted that any unresolved accusation here will always become a reference on how a casino address their complaint, some members are harsh but ready to support casinos who know how to address complaints properly.
2522  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is it becoming a thread for casinos refusing paying very huge winnings? on: January 12, 2023, 01:56:57 PM
I came across a topic recently now on this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman ber jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll agree me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.

What got me worried isn't just the winning but why are casinos getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433888.0
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people


Do you mean trend, not thread, its a case to case basis no use generalizing its bad for the industry if gamblers have this kind of perception or opinion, its usually because of the violation committed by the users on online casinos it usually because of double account, exploiting a bug but in the case of a player in the article its because of the malfunction of the machine, in that case, I believe the lady deserves his winnings or at least she should be compensated because its emotional agony, knowing that she won because she plays fair but the casino decides that she is not the winner because of the machine malfunction, which is not under her control.
2523  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: scammers use too much brain on: January 12, 2023, 11:38:51 AM
Scammers always have been one of the most creative people in industry. On one hand they did not invent nothing new, on the other, they adopt old tricks to modern situation. And I even think that some people even have special cells in brains, that tells them "to try how something work if they do things different way", and part of the scam are done after curiosity. But when curiosity and creativity meet greed and laziness, people lose money.
They already existed long before Cryptocurrency existed, in fact, they long existed long before the internet was conceptualized, scamming already exists since time immemorial, they thrive on the greed of people they made a business out of people believing what will bring them healthy wealth and fame, we cannot stop these scammers and they will continue to scam, but we can prevent ourselves from falling to their traps and this is by educating ourselves and controlling our greed and knowing how to do research on the personality of people who offer you products, services, and profits that are good to be true.
2524  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can players bet on their own games on: January 11, 2023, 10:30:32 PM
I’m curious to know if there’s any players (fighters,footballers….) who have been caught betting on themselves or on their own team to lose or win, i know it’s not allowed for any player as a part of their contract for example Ufc fighters are strictly forbidden from betting on their own fights. And the reason is pretty obvious since the player can easily manipulate the final score of whatever he is playing or fighting....
So i would like to know if you heard of any player been caught doing that? and if my example is right?


They can and it's unethical it's betraying your team and if caught doing so its the end of the player or the fighter's career you never betray your team whatever the situation is, your organization is paying you to win and they expect their fighters, and players to abide on their oath to the organization or promotion they are into and besides a fighter or a team owed it to the audience, to give his/their best even if the odds is against them, but its a practice done by many players who are not getting enough payment in their contract, so we can say its an open secret.
2525  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Orexbit.com - Ponzi scheme on: January 11, 2023, 01:11:27 PM
What happened: Ponzi scheme

8% PROFIT DAILY
Flag type 1 (support/oppose): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3081


I'll support flags that are created for the Ponzi schemes I have bad memories of these Ponzi schemes when I was just starting to invest, we all thought it was real by how they constructed their words to entice you to invest, on this one they even post a certification of incorporation which I'm sure is fake.
They claimed to be
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a global leader in the cryptocurrency business, OrexBit has assembled a team of genuine experts. We concentrate on trading on forex, stocks, bonds, oil, gold & cryptocurrency exchanges.
This is an old introduction to all the Ponzi schemes they used in it when Cryptocurrency is not yet popular and they used dollar trading any platform that offer 5% higher is a Ponzi schema and can be considered high-risk investment and potential scam.
2526  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Woman won $43million but was offered a steak dinner instead of her winnings on: January 11, 2023, 09:22:13 AM
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Katrina Bookman was playing the slots at the Resorts World Casino in Jamaica, Queens when she secured what would have been the largest slot machine jackpot in US history - $42,949,672 (£35.4m). She took a selfie with the machine to mark the moment, and later said her whole body went 'numb' when she saw the life-changing figure. Bookman was told to come back the next day to discuss her winnings, but when she asked an employee what she'd be walking away with, he responded: "You didn't win nothing." The New York State Gaming Commission said Bookman’s machine had malfunctioned, and that she'd actually won just $2.25 (£1.86).The machine had a disclaimer stating 'malfunctions void all pays and plays', and as a result the commission said that they were required by law to give Bookman only what she'd actually won.

Source: https://www.unilad.com/community/woman-won-43-million-offered-steak-dinner-instead-055644-20230108


Some Casinos are just plain fraudulent. So this woman visited a casino, play slot and won $43million. She took a selfie with the amount displayed on the machine. The casino saw it and told her to return the next day so they could talk about the winnings. Next day she returned. Story changed. She was told the machine had malfunctioned and therefore it was what was responsible for the winnings. They went ahead to offer her a complimentary steak dinner. I got so livid reading this story.

Isn't this just the stupidest reason not to give her her winnings?
Couldn't they have known that their so-called machine was faulty before letting gamblers use it?
How could they do this to her?

That just seems propostrous. I mean if the machine is faulty why is it there in the first place? They should at least give a compensation to the winner and they should be fined for having a faulty machine in operation.

That's the logical thing to do but the court and the casino commission in that country don't allow that because it's a glitch because the slot only allows, $6500 maximum winning as a player I will demand that what is shown on the screen should be awarded to me, the physical casino operators should explain the rules of the slots because compared to online casinos where the rules and terms are readable in one of the pages of the online casinos, compared to physical casinos they rely on their attendants and sometimes attendants failed to do their job, because of so many players playing at the same time.
2527  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Why the Bitcoin.Org has Deleted the Bitcoin White Paper ? on: January 10, 2023, 11:12:42 AM
I want to know 'Why the Bitcoin.Org has Deleted the Bitcoin White Paper ?'


Can any body tell me the truth nothing but the truth. Who is now running the Bitcoin.Org ?  Is the one known as BitcoinCobra or CobraBitcoin ?  I want the Bitcoin.Org to putback the Bitcoin White Paper online.  What is really happening to Bitcoin.Org ? 

Is Craig Wright causing problems for Bitcoin.Org to publish the Bitcoin White Paper ?  If that is the case then why have'nt you ask me for legal help ?




 Satoshi Nakamoto


Why would anyone ask for your help with this issue, when you haven't proven that you are Satoshi Nakamoto just a delusional guy who is very obsessed and wish that he is Satoshi Nakamoto, what you are posting in this forum is very much contrary to the real Nakamoto's personality you are just using this forum to fulfill your wild dream.
2528  Other / Archival / Re: ✅ [ANN] [banned mixer] | Bitcoin Mixer | Bitcoin Tumbler ✴️✴️ on: January 09, 2023, 11:35:19 PM
The announcement is very clear all the information and explanations you need are here even newbies who want to use mixers can understand the explanation I recommend that you add your WHOIS since your project is already in its third year it adds credibility and trust to the project, especially for mixers, the video link I notice is not working, I recommend that you upload it to other video sharing platforms.

]https://www.whois.com/whois/[banned mixer]
2529  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 📌[ANN]📈BitNo-Casino🚀MN|POS|NO PRESALE|GIVEAWAYS/AIRDROPS-DISTRIBUTION|🔥 on: January 09, 2023, 04:02:02 PM

I'm surprised that you launch a bounty campaign without a signature campaign if you look around the casino signature campaign are ruling this forum because this is very effective for casinos to market their casino here in Bitcointalk, you should add the signature campaign people even outside of this forum are looking for casinos to play and the signature campaign is a good branding.
2530  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Are Players Going To Trust Casinos If They Don't Show Solid Evidence on: January 09, 2023, 03:31:09 PM
I think it is easy to trust a casino when all the reviews here in the gambling section are positive about them,they keep making new promotions to attract new players,they let you withdraw everything if you abide by the rules and conditions of the casino which I suggest anyone should read before joining (something very few persons actually do).

Also you can test the waters with small amounts and see if everything goes smoothly before venturing deep further.For me the main point to trust or not a casino is their ability to pay huge amounts won and the casinos that do so are trustworthy for me.All others you will see scam accusations coming up against them because most of the time they cannot afford let's say 100.000 dollars payments while the big reputable ones will have no problems whatsoever paying such money.

That's the best defense of reputable casinos if they can pay hundreds of thousands of dollars or even millions why would they stop withdrawals in hundreds or thousands, the big casinos have this luxury because they are proven to payout millions of dollars but for small casinos and new casinos its hard to keep hold of their defense that they can not show their proof to protect the security and integrity of the casino, that is where the scenario of his words against their words comes in.
2531  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Terra LUNA Classic Price Prediction 2023-2025 on: January 09, 2023, 02:58:44 PM


Terra Luna Classic (LUNA) Price Prediction 2023

The LUNC price was testing the support level of $0.00016041 and $0.00014382 quite a few times. It reversed from the support level of $0.00014382 and now trading inside the symmetrical triangle. As soon as it breaks out of the symmetrical triangle, we can expect a huge rise or fall in the coming weeks.
Meanwhile, our long-term LUNC price prediction for 2023 is bullish since it cannot break the present support level soon. We can expect LUNC to reach $0.00024944 in 2023.


Why of all the thousands of coins out there you choose LUNA, it just reminded people of the huge money they lose here and how one guy created a whole mess, and the whole industry suffered, there's no trust in this coin anymore and if the price is going up because there are whales who will pay people to shill it so they can dump their bag, this is a coin destined to oblivion and it gets shill because whales are looking to make a profit, then they will dump this project, Luna's glory days are over.
2532  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Bitscript.org - SCAM site ! avoid at all costs ! on: January 09, 2023, 01:13:52 PM
basically i was looking to buy bitcoin crash game script and i foud it there fot 450USD, it was fine, i also tried to collect as much info as possible about that website but i found nothing,  support operator was kind and helpful until i paid for my order with crypto, after that they sent me some junk files to my telegram and no longer responding, just total ignore.

Chat: https://imgur.com/a/poVbRRL

avoid Bitscript.org,  they are scammers.




Where do you find it, you mean here in Bitcointalk if they have an announcement thread here then post their announcement link here I can't find it using the search bar, the screenshot doesn't prove anything you should upload more proof including your transaction payment follow the right format in creating your accusation, I notice that they are accepting Paypal payment and MasterCard, you should have tried this so you can charge back in case there is an issue.
After you create the right format, call them out and make them aware of the existence of this thread so they can address it if they still care for their reputation.
2533  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: HELP, I want betting/gambling tokens in crypto portfolio for 2025 on: January 09, 2023, 11:41:05 AM


Is there any reason to add gambling tokens to my crypto portfolio? What drives their value? Do they appreciate in value just like other altcoins whenever we are in a bull market?
I have two BFG tokens and an Owl token the value of these tokens depends so much on the platform, the reputation of the platform and its roadmap, and how dedicated the development team is to accomplish what's on their roadmap like all the other coins/tokens in the market, it will appreciate and depreciate based in the market condition, but as long as you follow the development of the project. you can take the right action in every given situation, right now there is no safe coin/token/project only Bitcoin enjoys the trust of the whole community.
Even if I recommend these two tokens to you I still recommend that you do your own research and invest what you can afford to lose.

2534  Economy / Gambling / Re: Recommendations for Real Cryptocurrency Casinos on: January 08, 2023, 09:18:48 PM
Hello everyone,

I am looking for a list of real cryptocurrency casinos. (My search through the forum posts from the last couple of years didn't yield any results for such a list.) By "real" crypto casinos, I mean online casinos that operate exclusively using bitcoin (and other cryptocurrencies), rather than just allowing players to make deposits and withdrawals using cryptocurrencies. Does anyone have any recommendations or know of any good ones to check out?

I have a few that I play regularly that I don't want to mention here, but I'm always on the lookout for new options that are worth exploring. Unfortunately, it seems like most casinos require registration before you can take a look around inside.



You mentioned exclusivity through deposit and using only one Cryptocurrency you don't need to register to take a look around everything is on their FAQ, about page and how it works you just have to check that out to find out if it's the casino you're looking for. I once come across that kind of casino I just forgot the name, but you can hardly find that kind of casino because all casinos utilize all the popular Cryptocurrencies not just one unless they are using web 3.0 where you have to connect your wallet before you can play, which is something many players ignore or don't want to use.

It's better to mention those few casinos that you have I'm sure one of the readers will be interested in that kind of casino too.
2535  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Chipmixer phishing site chipmixer.xyz is showing no-1 position on google search on: January 08, 2023, 08:48:57 PM
You can use this link to report the url directly to google, https://safebrowsing.google.com/safebrowsing/report_phish/
I did. Several times. Google doesn't care. This was brought up in the ChipMixer thread a few times. Short version: don't use Google.

I never used it, Google indexes sites based on the parameters they set up, and their spider is not effective anymore in figuring out if the site is a clone of one, scammers have figured out how to manipulate ranking with the use of scrupulous SEO companies
they just accept payment without verifying if its a clone or not, they promised and guaranteed as long as you get their premium packages, so when it comes to sites that you're using be sure to verify first and bookmark it, or better use WHOIS to check phishing sites usually don't last several months.
2536  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A superstitious strategy? on: January 08, 2023, 03:22:55 PM
Most gamblers must have went through this, sometimes luck appears to be your side specially in games like casino war or dice.
You'll always experience luck from time to time as long as you keep gambling, its what excites players and make them want to come back playing because of curiosity if luck will be on their side, that is why some players have certain rituals to go through to invite luck, even if they know it's not a guarantee that luck will be on their side.



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Today, morning I was playing casino war, I just use martingale - I know it's lame strategy. But I won most of time.
Nothing happens all the time to many of us, you just roll and it went in your favor

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Then later at noon, luck just didn't appear to be on my side. A constant losses with win every once in a while to recoup the losses and then losing streak, all funds gone.
Nothing new also, the longer you play the longer you will run out of luck

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Now, let's be some superstitious and say, if you play only when luck appears to be on your side, would you call that a good strategy?
Maybe, you cannot employ a strategy in luck-based games you just cannot, you will always run out of luck.
2537  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Are Players Going To Trust Casinos If They Don't Show Solid Evidence on: January 08, 2023, 01:09:59 PM
There are accusations that have or cannot be resolved because they always ended up with your words against their words, players show screenshots of your proofs and even take up or accept KYC but in casinos cases, they just hold on to their words that the player has cheated, manipulated or exploited a bug without showing strong evidence like screenshots of the log they just hiding in their defense that they cannot show proofs and add further to protect the integrity of their platform, so the accusations remain open.
Many casino's defenses are like that.

Usually, when there is a dispute between a player and a casino where a lot of cash is involved, Casinos will do everything to prove they are right and will hold up with the player's funds until they solve the process. This is a dull process that only affects the player. Unfortunately, Casinos have their ToS's in place to keep them protected against this sort of issue. Bear in mind that the final user is always the weakest link and when in disputes, casinos tend to have their way.

I agree the casinos always have their TOS to protect them, you are playing in their territory it's their rules that matter,  in fact some casinos have it in their TOS that they cannot divulge their tracking system because of possible exploits, and the players can upload as many proofs as he can but the casino will just hide behind their TOS without giving anything, so the issue has no closure but the casino is in a losing end if the accusation is not resolved because its a reference for players on his decision if he will play in that casino or not.
2538  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gervonta Davis VS Hector Luis Garcia SAT, JAN 07, 2023 on: January 08, 2023, 09:42:28 AM
In the post fight press conference, he said that he is ready for Ryan Garcia. Yes, it was a good test for Gervonta Davis in this fight, Hector Garcia is no easy tune up fight, I thought he is going to finished him under 8 rounds. So no shame in Hector Garcia, he won some rounds in my book. It's that Gervonta's power is very difficult that if you were really caught by it, hard to recover even in between rounds.

So the stage is set in April for Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia, can't wait.

Hector Garcia was a tough test indeed, i even thought that Garcia would upset Davis before that round 8. From what I saw, Davis has difficulties dealing with bigger opponents like Hector and i personally thought that if the fight with Ryan Garcia pushes through, he will have trouble dealing with size, speed, youth and power of Ryan Garcia considering that the latter would mentally prepare for this biggest fight of his career.

And that's what Ryan said as well, he has the height and reach advantage and says that he is going to utilized it in their fight. So if Hector will be a big problem for him, just a bit longer, what more if Ryan who is taller and lengthy and knows how to used his physical advantage.

I don't know but something is off with Davis here, not the performance that we wanted or expected of him, but true, this is still considered a win and so the fight with Ryan is now 99% on the go.

Styles makes a fight so they say, Hector Garcia did well with his reach and height advantage but eventually the big puncher will find his range and his way Davis put the fight on Garcia but Garcia relied on his technique of throwing jabs and uses his reach advantage, but Davis is a veteran knock out an artist he knows how to get his powerbomb and when it does it's over for Garcia, now he needs to fight another Garcia and its the better version of Garcia that is fighting, Gervonta will be back in the gym to prepare for Ryan Garcia now.
2539  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will Cassino Continue With Wagering Requirements, If Abuse is Eliminated? on: January 07, 2023, 11:47:46 PM

This led me to this question
1: What is your opinion on casinos that offers wagering requirements on both deposit and bonuses?
It's an industry practice that has been going on for many years and has proven to attract new players, get more activity in casinos and be profitable for both casinos and motivate players to deposit and play.

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2: what do you think, if all necessary security checks are up to 100% and Abuse is totally eliminated from casinos, do you think gambling sites will make a no wagering requirement on their bonuses?
Why would they? casinos are living on their player's deposits and playing activity, there are always wagering requirements in everything you do in casinos.
2540  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: OLE777.IO Vietnamese scammers stole BIG amount from me. (proof inside) on: January 07, 2023, 11:04:27 PM
I found it here. Bitcointalk admin allows all sorts of scammers.
they are Vietnamese owners from my research. Pieces of shit, soulless people.

Scams are not moderated here and don't include the Bitcointalk community and the admin team they have nothing to with it, you should blame yourself for not doing enough research, and don't generalize the Vietnamese people, the sin of one individual is not the sin of one country, you have to think before posting its racism.
Its good that you posted this issue here not people is aware that they should not play here.
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