Why is it becoming a thread for casinos refusing paying very huge winnings?

[Obari]

I came across a topic recently now of this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman her jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll all agree with me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.

What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433888.0
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people

[Oshosondy]

Some gambling site may not be able to afford that amount of money even if they want to sell their gambling company. Some may want to try and pay lower amount and see if it would work.

That amount is huge and it the best is for it to lead to lawsuit. If the casino can not pay, they will give the woman a better offer in a way the money will still be huge but not up to the amount won, but if the woman do not agree, it will lead to a court case. The woman would win as long as he has been abiding the gambling site rules and something good will come out of it.

[lionheart78]

It was stated that the machine malfunctioned and isn't there a claim ticket that states that the actual winnings is  $2.25 (£1.86).  The woman did not refute the decision of the casino which means it is highly possible that the malfunction is correct.  A lawsuit case comes after a year the incident which I think someone had given the woman an idea to chase the winnings.  Besides the  New York State Gaming Commission also stated that the machine malfunctioned.

A spokesperson for Resorts World, Dan Bank, told CNN: “Upon being notified of the situation, casino personnel were able to determine that the figure displayed on the penny slot was the result of an obvious malfunction – a fact later confirmed by the New York State Gaming Commission.

But of course, we never know the truth if it really malfunctioned or if someone got paid to declare the machine malfunctioned.  But I will take it the first one since Casino needs to maintain its reputation in order to continue its business without any Hiccups.

On the other note,  scam casinos always find a way to not payout their player, even implementing different requirements but at the end the effort is vain because the casino is indeed fraudulent.

[Oshosondy]

It was stated that the machine malfunctioned and isn't there a claim ticket that states that the actual winnings is  $2.25 (£1.86).  The woman did not refute the decision of the casino which means it is highly possible that the malfunction is correct.  A lawsuit case comes after a year the incident which I think someone had given the woman an idea to chase the winnings.  Besides the  New York State Gaming Commission also stated that the machine malfunctioned.

A spokesperson for Resorts World, Dan Bank, told CNN: “Upon being notified of the situation, casino personnel were able to determine that the figure displayed on the penny slot was the result of an obvious malfunction – a fact later confirmed by the New York State Gaming Commission.

But of course, we never know the truth if it really malfunctioned or if someone got paid to declare the machine malfunctioned.  But I will

But if the machine malfunctioned and if the winner won $1 million or very large amount of money but instead the machine stated that she lost her money, they will not tell her anything but she will lose instead.

[QueenVera]

There is actually alot going in with the gambling industry and from my readings if I'm not wrong, it seems this incidence of the winnings took place over a year ago and I don't know why this issue resurfaced again bit whatever the reason could be, I think her compensation wasn't worth it at all.
I also read when it said that someone declared the machine faulty and I'm tempted to ask what the parameters for declaration of the machine faulty was used and just as OP asked and I solely wish to know what the response of the casino would have been of the winnings wasn't made and I also think the declarant should also be investigated as well as the casino and I think the woman brought the case now because she might have been saving up for to file for the case.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

As far as know, incident like the OP mentioned is mostly common with land based casinos, from my experience so far with online casinos, i think its almost impossible to win such an amount of money from online casinos..

In as much as I feel angry in my spirit for I believe that woman was cheated big time, i still do not blame the casino as that amount of money is way too much, only a very few casinos around the world will pay out such an amount of money as winning and still remain in business, majority that can not afford would rather prefer to come up with some flimsy excuse and hope the winner of the money would understand, like in the case of the woman.
Others wouldn't mind having answering to a lawsuit than pay out such an amount, and don't mind having their casino shut down as well, as paying such an amount to one gambler also mean bankruptcy for the casino.

[dothebeats]

Casinos refusing to pay big wins has somewhat become rampant for obvious reasons. It's great for us to know which casinos are these to serve as a heads up for us to try and avoid them. If casinos don't have the money to py for wins, why should we trust them? If they're reasons are too ridiculous and unbelievable, why would we entrust that they'll honor the next big win that might occur on their platform? For all we know they are already going under and we might be in for a treat, so as early as now it's great to spot these casinos to avoid them. That $43m win from the lady is a gut-wrenching example that these casinos can just shrug off the win and even get the authorities involved to back them up. Really hard to fight these entities and all that we can do on our end is just avoid them to let them take a hit on their profits.

[bitcampaign]

the importance of playing a land casino which of course has a good reputation and also has a big name, at least it's much safer so you don't get cheated like that case, to be honest it certainly hurts that woman only gets paid for dinner, even though the woman should get monetary compensation even if only a little only because the mistake came from the casino

[livingfree]

It's possible that they don't have the money ready and that's why they resort to just reason out that some bugs or glitches has occurred during the spin.

Or they don't just want to pay and doesn't feel that the winner deserves it. You know the management of some casinos are like that, even if the winner is a rightful and genuine winner, they can have that emotion and just have to say some reasons and refuse to pay.

[coin-investor]

I came across a topic recently now on this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman ber jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll agree me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.

What got me worried isn't just the winning but why are casinos getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433888.0
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people

If you checked the article and the flow of discussion, the casino declined the payment because the machine malfunctioned

The New York State Gaming Commission said Bookman’s machine had malfunctioned, and that she'd actually won just $2.25 (£1.86).

The machine had a disclaimer stating 'malfunctions void all pays and plays', and as a result the commission said that they were required by law to give Bookman only what she'd actually won.

I agree that the woman deserves more than $2.25 because they allow him to use the machine in the first place, and he is like all the other gamblers hoping to win the jackpot, people will not trust slots machines because they are not guaranteeing that you can win what is shown in the machine, you can play and when it is shown that you lose, you will think that you won because the machine could be malfunctioning slot machine players will always have doubts.

[nullama]

You're standing in front of a machine, it won't pay, someone comes over and says it was malfunctioning.

I don't know what you could do in those situations really.

This kinda defeats the whole point of gambling, unless the main point is really just something else and the big wins are just a distraction...

[aioc]

You're standing in front of a machine, it won't pay, someone comes over and says it was malfunctioning.

I don't know what you could do in those situations really.

From a gambler's perspective, this is outrageous and very disheartening, and very cruel on the part of the casino, they just want your money because they should test all their machine in the first place before allowing people to play

This kinda defeats the whole point of gambling, unless the main point is really just something else and the big wins are just a distraction...

The one thing that kills a gambler's hope is something like this, the machine showed you won the amount but in reality, you're not, based on the article there's an out-of-court settlement, but still, people should stay away from that kind of casino.

[goinmerry]

Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people

Becoming a trend? Like what other case? That story you are referring to was an isolated case.

We also don't know the whole side of the story as that case was verified by the Gambling Commission itself and was properly settled at the court trial.

Maybe you are just overthinking too much. Dream first to win big instead of worrying about that.

[ultrloa]

I came across a topic recently now on this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman ber jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll agree me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.

What got me worried isn't just the winning but why are casinos getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5433888.0
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people

A thread? Or you mean trend? Maybe the reason why they came up with that situation is they cannot pay that huge amount of money won by their player. And if that case maybe this indicates that we need to pull out our money there since if they can't pay other peoples winning then provably it will happen to us or more worse they don't have  a plan since in the first place their target is to scam their users once they accumulate huge deposits in their casino.

[Vaskiy]

Casinos is a business and when someone eats big money from the casino's pocket, they find all possible ways not to give the winning fund. This is what happening with majority of such accusations where the winning amount isn't settled. We can just request for help and receive suggestions. For that purpose most of the time winners reach the forum.

[Fatunad]

Casino owners of these businesses could really get away out of possible accusations that they arent being fair or telling the truth even if the complainant would really be piling some charges or case against them.
Why? They do really have the money for them to clear up the mess and thats the sad reality.Unless if they cant able to bribe the handling officials or something in justice department for the said situation
then someone could have the chance but its unlikely to happen. This is why its really sad to think that winners of those life changing amounts would turn out to be still a dream
even if they had really won it but it was taken back. Sad.

[Wexnident]

Here's the thing, we can't exactly verify the veracity of their claims since, well, all prior testing of said "malfunction" was done by them. Even if it was approved by the NY Gaming Commission, it still wasn't exactly publicly verified, so we can't know whether it's really a malfunction or not. If it was, then end of the story nothing can be done. If it wasn't, then the main reason would be because they didn't want to play, as for specifics we'd probably never know.

If there really was a purpose to it, it's something that stems from human evil or greed I guess. Nothing we can do about it really.

[joeperry]

this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.

You are right this is not a small money to ignore that's why gambling sites make excuses in order to get away with the winnings. We should admit that some gambling sites really doesn't have huge bankroll and really can't afford to pay players if they win a jackpot and that's what we should avoid. There are some previous incident here in the forum where a gambling site couldn't afford to pay its customer and promised to pay him a portion on a monthly basis, sounds ridiculous right as you will be receiving your winnings partially and on a monthly basis.

I'm not sure if that casino were new but that's what I'm skeptical to new casinos if they offer big rewards and bonuses, well of course not all new gambling sites are like that but most of them are starting business so it's not bad to question that.

[Issa56]

Any casino that those not pay their customers any amount they win is definitely a scam casino, no matter how huge the amount is. I believe they decided not to pay the woman because they believe it's a huge amount and they can't afford to lose that amount of money, but if it's the woman that lose that kind of amount, they won't refund the money to her and they won't give her other offers, the money is gone. Why is the casino not ready to lose, they just want to be winning always which is very bad. The funniest part is that they didn't even give her better offer just a steak dinner, that's very annoying.

[X-ray]

It's simply that the sites may have some reasons by refusing to pay that woman. This has become a common problem for sure. That's why people who didn't get paid will always try to blow up the case to make sure that will be pushing the sites to pay what they deserve by winning the big reward.
So many problems happened with the various sites started from that. That's why we must be careful with any of gambling sites. that's a lot of money. The sites must try to pay what they can affort to pay it.
I think that this gonna be a long term problem since the winner will not let the site will not pay him. That's why stay away from the casino that was offering non sense reward. They have high chance to not pay.