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2521  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Technology is Changing Sports Betting on: August 14, 2023, 03:41:43 PM
I am more into what could be implemented as new games through AI developments not guess part honestly. Currently we are wagering on same traditional games. But with highly developed AI, there could new games where you interact more with ai especially in live betting. AI may measure more data on pitch (speaking about football) that gambling companies may use. Advancement with ai will change a lot.
There will be new games that will implement AI into the game to attract people and make them curious. And gambling games in the future may be different from what we play today. And if that happens, maybe our generation will miss the types of gambling games that we often play today. But for sports betting, AI can easily collect the necessary data so we can analyze it by combining these data. And using these data might increase our chances of choosing a team with a greater chance of winning.
2522  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casino Slot Streamers on: August 14, 2023, 03:13:18 PM
One guy I like from this streamers is called Random Michael (I am in no way affiliated with him) but I love the way he feels every single spin and it looks to me that it is not paid by the casino although he also the first thing starting the videos ask for subscription and promo codes.Maybe I like him because he plays a lot my favorite slot which is Big Bass Amazon extreme and he has gone even for max win one time after playing it several times or very near the max win with a relevant substantial bet.

Are you referring to this guy https://youtu.be/By7duFHbgpE? How can I unheard his voice become he sounds like super mario and it’s a little bit irritating when he keeps repeating same statement when he gets excited.  Cheesy

I believe his game is legit since he started from small and slowly increases his bankroll right after he hits max win. His emotion is very legit even with just small amount jackpot unlike other streamers that winning million dollars. His voice keeps running now in my head.
I saw the video starting from the beginning, and he was really lucky to earn hundreds of thousands of euros. But I don't know how many times he has played before he can get Max Win like that. And it was a risk he had to accept, and he got his luck by winning a lot of money.

I don't know how he manages his emotions, but it shows he is a gambling pro. But we also don't know if the casinos paid him to entice people to join him. Videos like that can attract people to play gambling, especially beginners who accidentally watch the videos. With the victory he gets, it will surely make many people curious.
2523  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Legality of Online Gambling in Different Countries on: August 14, 2023, 02:41:18 PM
Here in our country, there are casinos owned by our government that operate legally under the charity program, such as lottery and casino pagcor, when it comes to private gambling and there are also many that are legally allowed by our government even online .

it's just that there are others online here among us who run illegally or operate illegally, there are a lot of them here especially on social media platforms that are endorsed by well-known influencers in our country that I think the others don't know that it's illegal because after influencers only pay them for what they promote. so poor their other followers who follow and believe in them.
If it were for charity, the lottery would get government approval even though it is gambling. And many other examples can link the lottery with something that is allowed by the government so that people can buy tickets freely.

But it is true that illegal casinos are still operating, making it difficult for the government to track them down. And that's what allows people to gamble freely in these illegal casinos. But its whereabouts are not easy to trace because only a few gamblers know where it is.
2524  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Olympic Games, but doping is allowed?! on: August 14, 2023, 02:19:16 PM
Whatever you are going to achieve with strength boosters or drugs is not an achievement, the name of such sport should begins with illegal and I doubt the law will allow this to function because there will be consequences, cheating must not be allowed in any type of athletics.

Those that tried to use drugs of horse races end up with many sudden deaths on horses that later raise some suspicion,  after the law deep into investigation they found out that many bets on horse races are based on lies and manipulations, I can't recall the name of the country where this happened again.

Allowing this to happen will bring an end to the Olympic games and it will open door to illegal activities too, the war on drugs won't make sense and instead it will give the weak-hearted more reasons or excuses to start using drugs.
I think it will get a lot of protests from athletes who don't use drugs because they feel that what they have done, in this case, training in various ways means nothing because they lost against athletes who use drugs. And this is not a sport that shows the power of training, but this is something that is obtained from the results of taking drugs.

If drugs are allowed to be used by athletes, it may have a negative long-term health impact on the athlete. And there is a possibility that the athletes will experience addiction to using drugs in all their activities, which has become like drugs. The sports world will change, and the sportsmanship slogan will disappear if this is legalized. And I don't know the consequences for the people who also take these drugs.
2525  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Greed can cause a lost bet, (true or false) on: August 14, 2023, 01:54:23 PM
Gambling problems and gambling addictions often lead to deep debt is never good for anyone, gambling is a bigger risk, so it is best for every gambler to avoid debt. Taking out an additional personal loan can make sense in certain situations, but it can have a negative impact on you. Therefore, paying the loan and gambling according to one's ability will reduce the problem even if you lose. Get a second job to pay off debt depending on the primary source of income by working a few extra hours per week, paying off debt is a good decision if you can come up with more money.
It's not easy as you saying, if there's a good or interesting job out there, they will apply for it and then start to work to collecting more money. Since they're lazy to learn a new skill or they're don't know how long they need to keep trying to learn the skill, they choose to make quick money via online. It's why they jump to gambling or trading since they think it's easy to buy low and sell high (trading) or press the spin button (gambling).
It won't work. They should think about applying for jobs so they can make money instead of just playing gambling. But all the problems can arise due to greed and wanting to get more money from gambling, so they can't see that gambling is not what they think it is. And to make money from gambling, they have to borrow money from other people and use it to play gambling. But if they keep thinking of making quick money online, they must be disappointed because there is no quick way to make money, whether offline or online.
2526  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Appropriate percentage of income for gambling on: August 14, 2023, 01:19:22 PM
I'm being honest here when I say that I don't track my expenses when I'm gambling, whenever I gamble I just get the money that I want to spend and when that money is gone because it's a loss for me and a bad day for me then my gambling is done for that day. I know that it's kind of stupid of me not to track how much I spend in gambling but I think that I'm happier that I don't know how much I lose over time, less regrets on why I gamble and I have more fun at the end of the day.
You can try to make a budget for gambling. It is useful to know how much you used to gamble on that day. But don't immediately spend all the budget money instead, try to divide it up for a few days, say a week. Usually, that's what I do for each week, and for example for a week, I make a budget of $25. The amount of money must be enough for a week, and you may not deposit another amount of money if you lose gambling. So with that money, you can gamble for a few days and not bother with the rest of your finances.
2527  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Advice when you are going a bit far in gaming and betting on: August 14, 2023, 12:42:05 PM
You need to have a lot of self-discipline to play gambling games otherwise you are a loser from the start. Otherwise, you'll want more and more, and that's an addiction. When someone is addicted, these tips will not help much, because then the addict will do everything to keep playing.
Not many gamblers can have good self-discipline because when they start gambling and find pleasure, the average gambler will forget to have or maintain self-discipline. They will forget to stop because they feel that this is the time for them to get win, and this causes them to continue gambling. Tips for self-discipline are always mentioned when playing gambling because that can help us prevent many losses and not become addicted or addicted in the future. And it is true that if someone is an addict, he will do anything to keep gambling.
2528  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: List of casinos that allows "free spins and no deposit" on: August 14, 2023, 12:15:02 PM
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Free spins were kind of marketing tactics to attract new gamblers into the platform. Very few gets lucky to withdraw the winning whereas the majority loss the deposits. Better is to deposit and wager and never take in mind about the bonuses availed. When you think about the bonuses, automatically your wagering approach will vary and the same could end up losing. I don't remember the platform, but there we'll be able to claim the native tokens of the platform and we can withdraw it and convert to bitcoin or fiat, but those are mere amounts and not that worth it.
And casinos know how to take advantage of users' curiosity, especially new users, to be able to come to the casino. And it is by giving free spins that casinos get new users who register and try to play gambling there without depositing a certain amount of money. But for gamblers, it's best not to be too eager to get free spins because some casinos enforce wagering requirements in giving these free spins. And it is the wagering requirements that gamblers must meet, but most of the gamblers need to read the requirements, making it difficult for them.
2529  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Healthy mindset to save earnings from gambling on: August 14, 2023, 11:40:29 AM
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The problem is not many of them remembers that thing. They're all there to gamble and it's not a problem for them to take a rest.

When they're chasing for something, winning or losing or recovering the losses they've made. That minute of visit changes a lot of their perspective and standing for that moment.

Instead of taking a rest, they're becoming full of anguish because they're losing the hard way.
Yes, that's true because many of these gamblers still want to recover from their losses, so they don't rest even after encountering a big loss. In gambling we should have the thought that gambling is only for entertainment, and if we can get a win, we must rest. Because in addition to calming the mind or lowering emotions, we can also use rest to keep the winning money from losing if we choose to continue gambling. If they think that gambling today is enough and they need to stop immediately, they can reduce the losses that will get bigger. Apart from that, they also have another day to return to gambling. Maybe their lucky day can give them big wins.

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as I said earlier, as long as self-control can be controlled properly, its okay to gamble for a while with a small amount, after that take a break to restore your mind and energy to work the next day. sometimes i do that but in sports betting just predict for a while after that place a bet then i just sleep and the next day i go to the site to see if my bet won or lost.
I could try to take a little time to entertain myself at casino games but I realize that sometimes the emotions at casino games are too great that it causes me to forget the time I should have taken a break so my choice is still on sports betting except when I have a lot of time off I will go to casino games.

the most important thing here, though, is to forget about gambling for a while and access it only during work holidays. Its better when you come home from work, its better not to access or go to the casino. because the initial goal was to forget about gambling, so it was in vain that we went from morning to evening to forget about gambling, but in the end we also gambled when we got home.
Perhaps using sports betting can reduce the tension in gambling because, in sports betting, we can place a bet and leave it until the results come out. And we don't need to do anything and don't gamble in other gambling games because we only place bets on price bets.

But some people still gamble even though they have placed bets on sports betting because they want other entertainment. What needs to be remembered is that we must be able to divide our time between gambling time and time to do other things so that we don't become addicted to gambling. And whatever you use to avoid addiction is something you can do; other people will do the same thing as you but maybe differently.
2530  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Minimum Age to gamble on: August 14, 2023, 10:51:10 AM
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Modern technology indeed have its own pros and cons mainly about this topic. Sure technology helps our lives to be more comfortable as we can almost do anything with just a simple swipe of our hand on our gadgets but for the cons like online gambling, parents will have more difficulties tracking down their children specially if they don't know how to take advantage of the technology itself. And if you are a parent in a 3rd world country, there is a huge chance that you don't even know these things work, so you can already imagine how hard will it be to know what they are up to.
That's why parents must always supervise their children using their devices so that their children can use them properly. There is a tendency for parents to surrender completely to their children because they feel they have given what they think their children need. Whereas if parents can keep a good eye on their children and stay close to them, that would be even better because parents can also know what their children are doing. Nowadays, parents don't even know what their children are doing when their parents are at work or home. That could be what made the children lose control and finally try to visit the casinos they found while using the internet.
2531  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: August 14, 2023, 10:27:04 AM
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Well, I think online casinos are not like crypto exchanges where a lot of man power is need in the work force to make sure everything is going as it should, when it comes to insider attacks or hacks, what i do think is that, the more the people working in that company, the more the company is prone to such attacks, for online casinos, I don't think the chances that it would face attacks that is initiated by an insider is very high, compared to crypto exchanges, this is because online casinos are usually ran or managed by just few persons at most, there are even some online casinos that are managed by the developer alone.
So personally, I thinks managing a casino is as complicated or complex like managing a crypto exchange, and this is probably why a lot of crypto exchanges get hacked, meanwhile, we hardly ever hear that an online gambling casino was hacked, so possibly, its because running an online casino only required just a few persons, so the chances that an insider will reveal the casinos secret to an outsider hacker is very slim or low.
But the company should have been able to anticipate problems with vulnerabilities or hacking from insiders by selecting people who apply to the company. And the company will only hire people who can work well and carry out their duties professionally, so insider hacking won't happen.

And the name of a business is challenging to manage, and it depends on how the owner can get people who will help him work. And as long as professional people manage the casino, the casino will be safe from hacking or other things.

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every technological development, usually every big casino, always has a way to overcome all problems that threaten the loss of the casino, as I said earlier that casinos have a lot of money to do anything for the security of their platforms, so whenever there is a trend like AI, casinos are also always looking for a team that has expertise. in the field of AI so that it can always strengthen the security of the gambling system.

but it is very rare for insiders to leak casino systems because insiders have more than enough salary so they have no plans to divulge anything related to the platform system.
Perhaps because the salary of the people who work in the casino is more than what other people get in other businesses so they never think of getting more money. Besides that, if someone has done a good job and got a good salary, he will get maximum work, which will give him a good reputation to get a bonus for his work.

And casinos will always update their systems properly and follow existing trends so that they can withstand all attacks that come to their casinos. And we have seen these big casinos survive many attacks and can, run their business well, and get a good reputation too.
2532  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mistake that prevented your big win. on: August 14, 2023, 09:49:48 AM
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Well, first, I do not believe there are mistake or accidents in gambling, when ever we gamble and lose the money, we never lost that money by mistake, the outcome of a gambling, like in the result of a bet we places is never a mistake, so sometimes, I really get confused when I hear people say they mistakenly lost money in gambling, that a big lie, and I do feel many gamblers make use of such phrase just to make themselves feel alright, at least, tell yourself you lost money by mistake, does have a way it makes you feel sober and not be to hard on yourself, than when you tell yourself you lost money out of stupidity.

Anyways, revengeful gambling is a type of gambling that should never be encouraged amongst gamblers, aside the fact that any gambler who engages in revengeful gambling does stand of a chance of losing even more money in the process, revengeful gambling is one of the ways a gambler also gets addicted to gambling, so who ever is doing this is doing more harm to themselves than they actually know.
Perhaps they mean that they accidentally place too small bets, which causes them to avoid getting big wins. And just because it lacks a zero by one can give a different result to their win. We can only advise them, including ourselves, to always be careful when placing bets and check before pressing the button to bet. If many people, including myself, have experienced this accidental problem, I always make sure the amount of my bet is what I want.

Revenge gambling must be avoided because it can trigger us to act without being aware that it is just gambling that cannot give a win. Perhaps we also experienced it in the past, but now we have learned a lot, so we will always anticipate this happening again. It's better for us to gamble to enjoy our free time and not try to recover from yesterday's defeat that we got.

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In a gamble everything will return to its initial situation, for example you have lost and then you deposit money again to bet in it again, well and I will say that this action will not change anything, especially your luck and everything will return to normal. initial situation with neutral status 50 - 50 between win and lose. So it's true as you say that it is wrong if someone does it again at the same time with the aim of revenge, because that will only make things worse and doesn't give you the possibility of winning in it. It is quite true to say that if you do something based on emotion and greed then you will get bad results in it, where whatever result you get you will never be satisfied with it. In this case the only thing we can do is try to be more careful, always use self-control every time we play if you don't want to lose a lot of money there. Get rid of any feelings that can cause you to experience deeper losses, such as taking revenge because of the defeat you received.
And if we lose, but we deposit money again and experience another loss, we only add to the number of losses that are getting bigger. And even though we can win, we can count how many losses we have and compare them to the number of wins we get. From there, we can see how many wins we got, positive or negative. I suspect the results will be negative more often than positive. So we don't need to make things worse by depositing another amount of money to recover previous losses because it will only be easy if they have some luck coming their way. And it is greed that will continue whispering in our ears to deposit some more money to try to recover losses, but greed will not say that we will lose again and only let us see what will happen later.

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Well, revenge is a strong word so I am with you on that but if the case of trying to win back or breaking even on your losses, I think that it depends on the amount of loss that you've got, if you think you can get back the losses by winning big with such a small amount of bet difference then go for it. I don't think it should come to a time where you're regretting your expenses on gambling, you're an adult now I am sure that you know what you're doing when you are gambling, regretting just leads to you being psychologically set to try and ease that regret by trying to gamble again.
But it will be challenging to recover our previous losses, and whether we have to use new money, we can recover those losses. Instead of trying it endlessly and using up more and more money, we should stop gambling and calm our minds so we don't think about the loss. Hopefully, we don't get caught in that situation, so we won't try to recover from previous losses because we just want to play gambling for fun.
2533  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Wagering - share your opinion on: August 14, 2023, 09:17:55 AM
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it is the right choice because the promotion always has wagering requirements so why take it even though many casinos give more than 100% welcome promotion bonus and I think newbies might be tempted by the bonuses and promotions that are offered, but for longtime users it might be a promotion and the bonus is just wasted because in the end we will also make a deposit.

Depositing some money for example in less money to play and enjoy the game as a trial will probably be better, as it is not burdened with other wagering requirements, playing for fun and the usual entertainment that I do when trying to play on a new gambling platform to prevent fraud and addicted usually depositing less just for fun never hurts.
The attractive promotions provided by casinos tempt many beginners, and they will always try to follow them without checking the wagering requirements. But once they find out, they feel like they can never get anything out of those casino promotions, and it's discouraging to see how many people have made it. If they never learn from their mistakes, they repeat them repeatedly without getting their bonus.

Anyone, including beginners, can deposit some money to participate in the promotion. Still, they should check the wagering requirements first and ensure they follow them properly. And only take a promotion with low wagering requirements because that will only make things difficult for yourself. And if no promotion yet has wagering requirements that we can, we don't need to join any promotion and just deposit as much money as we can or we are better off not gambling for a while.
2534  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do anyone have done this? with gambling platforms on: August 14, 2023, 08:49:38 AM
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yes, big win with small bet is almost impossible. I don't know if it's true that anyone got a big win after a few small bets were made. but there's no way the casino would give such good luck.
still those who get big wins are those who have been playing at the casino long enough. and regularly they deposit large sums of money.
anyone hopes that big wins will be obtained in their gambling. but luck doesn't come with little effort either.
Even though it seems impossible, it is possible if someone really has great luck so that, he can get a big win. But the next problem was whether he could withdraw that big win easily when the casino would ask him various conditions. Or he can do KYC and wait until the process is complete before the casino will process the money withdrawal. Usually, if a casino asks a customer to do KYC, it must take days until the casino approves it. And that's what happens to a lot of people.

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True, It is difficult but not impossible. There are some lucky gamblers who can get such big wins. But chances of winning like this are very low, those who win are very lucky indeed. But when a gambler wins such a big, the biggest challenge comes to withdraw the funds from the gambling site. Because then the gambling sites start investigating the user's account whether the winnings were real or not, if it is a reputable site it becomes easy to withdraw but if it is a bad reputation site they come out with various excuses after investigation. So I think withdrawing the winning fund is more challenging than winning big! That is why gamblers should be more careful in selecting gambling sites so that they do not lose their winning funds due to the various excuses of bad reputation gambling sites.
Only luck can help someone to be able to get that big win with a small bet. And so far, I've never had a big win with a small bet because it's really hard for me. And indeed, the next challenge may still need to be solved for many people who have managed to get big wins. They have to be more patient waiting for the casino to ensure that everything is obtained honestly and there is no cheating in getting that big win. And I agree to choose a trusted casino so we won't experience any problems playing gambling, and withdrawing the winnings.
2535  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Playing Slot Games On Demo/Free mode Vs Live/Paid Mode on: August 13, 2023, 04:54:29 PM
Having played on a site that often dispenses those free plays, those massive wins do happen especially with them bonus buys.
But that only sometimes happens because even by buying bonuses, we don't have the opportunity to continue to get wins. But when it's a free game, we may have to follow the requirements on the casino site, and often we have to deposit a certain amount of money set by the casino and make another bet before we can withdraw the winnings.

That may be the difference with the demo mode, where we are not required to deposit any money but cannot withdraw the winnings. So enjoy whichever is your choice, and if you choose to play in live/real mode, be prepared to deposit some amount to start playing slots.
2536  Economy / Gambling / Re: HIT A JACKPOT on BITCASINO.IO - WILL I BE PAID? MY JOURNEY HERE. on: August 13, 2023, 04:39:47 PM
You are really lucky to get those big bonuses and wins. And now you are just waiting for information from Bitcasino representatives. And as one of the reputable casino sites in this forum, they are sure to process and sort things out.

Perhaps as said by other friends, verify your account before they continue withdrawing money, and if you don't do what they suspect, they will solve everything. Congrats on your big win.
2537  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Satoshi revealed his identity... on: August 13, 2023, 03:44:13 PM
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He would owe back taxes on the coins he mined

It depends if Satoshi is a US citizen or not. US has a lot to file case against Satoshi in case he is a US citizen and I doubt Satoshi will reveal himself if he is indeed from US.

What reason could the government put him in jail? If they can do it with Satoshi, why don't they put Vitalik Buterin or CZ in jail?

Because Vitalik and CZ is not from US. The only reason why CZ is having trouble with US Sec is because he accepts US customer to his exchange. US Sec jurisdiction is not globally and they can't sue anyone that is not their citizen or doesn't operate under their jurisdiction.


This precisely proves that Satoshi is a US citizen. In any other case, he would most likely have revealed his identity.
If that's the case, Satoshi will certainly change nationality that has nothing to do with the US country Grin

This would make him unable to be prosecuted by the US government.

But I didn't think Satoshi would reveal his identity. What did he do it for? Money, popularity or seeking the thrill that he is the real Satoshi?

Satoshi will remain anonymous, and we only know who he really is once he tells the world that he is the real Satoshi.
2538  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do anyone have done this? with gambling platforms on: August 13, 2023, 03:19:16 PM
In gambling there's no amount one is not liable to win irrespective of the staking rate used, not every gambler using a huge amount to gamble wins big, but the rate of the risk involved that some gamblers took in using a smaller amount and use to gamble and they win massively, we should not be distracted by this because it's a rare occurrence in gambling, winning or loosing is not in the staking amount but how accurate we could predict the bet we made for a win.
But winning and losing will still determine the results of the predictions that we place. And if gamblers place big bets, they will also get big wins if their predictions are correct. But to get an accurate or nearly accurate prediction, we must have a good analysis to find out which team we have chosen.

But it's very difficult to get a big win with a small bet, moreover get a big multiplier like @OP said. And only lucky people can get it.
2539  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: List of casinos that allows "free spins and no deposit" on: August 13, 2023, 02:25:47 PM
I'm a bit confused. Are you referring to casinos that provide you with free spins and enable you to withdraw winnings from them without requiring any deposit? Or are you referring to free spins bonuses that have associated terms, such as a minimum deposit (anytime) and a (N)x wagering requirement for withdrawal eligibility? The first scenario would be challenging to come across. While it's possible it exists, it would likely be quite uncommon. I mean, isn't that almost too good to be true? It's important to be cautious.
Same confusion I had from this thread,because the OP had said like the free spins and enable us to withdraw the winnings.Then how the website will earn money without any deposit.By the game only the gambling website use to earn,if the 100 people play the game.Then the winning money will be made from the total deposit to the game.So the gambling website will earn the fee from every game and no need to scam others.But how your website with work,if the person win and withdraw full money without depositing the funds.If it's the real factor,I was very curious on this gambling site.
It is difficult to find such a casino because it usually has a minimum limit for us to deposit, and only then we can get free spins. We must meet the wagering requirements if we want to withdraw the money. And these wagering requirements may vary as they usually depend on the promotions launched by the casino. There may be casinos that provide free spins for free oms or their social media, but still, there are minimum wagering that we must meet before we can withdraw the winnings.
2540  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Wagering - share your opinion on: August 13, 2023, 02:10:48 PM
Most of the time, your bankroll is already depleted before even you accomplish a quarter of the wagering requirements.
Hence, as you said, don't chase those bonuses or perks rather accept as it goes. Because their conditions are quite difficult to fulfill.
Before you get excited with the rewards attached to your bonuses, read first the terms or requirements, and you would know already the chance of completing it.
This is why I am not also tempted with mouth-watering bonuses, because once you check their terms, you would be disappointed, as if
they don't want you to go home as winner for once. Even 20x wagering requirements sometimes is too hard to achieve, depending on the game that you will play.
It happened to me because I didn't look at the wagering requirements back then and just entered or participated in a promotion. But as soon as I found out there were wagering requirements that I needed to meet and I was far from the minimum, and my bankroll was gone, I couldn't get anything out of the promotion. And it was a lesson for me that I should check the wagering requirements before deciding to participate in the promotion.

And for now, I'm not trying to participate in a promotion because it must be really hard for me. And I prefer to deposit some money and just enjoy gambling. That's more feasible for me because at least, I don't think about anything and just enjoy playing gambling.
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