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2521  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Live] NVO Decentralized Exchange | Multi Wallet 🌟 Escrows 🌟 on: June 01, 2017, 12:13:15 AM
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Crowdsale starts on 05/27/17 02:00 UTC
Crowdsale ends on 06/27/17 02:00 UTC


So it makes no difference if I join crowdsale on 06/27/17 V 05/27/17.I still get the same amount as the one who joins on first day?

Many projects that include presale discounts are limited but that does not guarantee the success of an ICO, what nvo do is right because all participants are equal to what they invest, certainly this leads to the minimum of negative whales. My advice if you want to get involved don't wait until near the end because the initial, middle, and end investors are the determinants of ICO's success
2522  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Criminality and Bitcoin on: May 31, 2017, 11:34:38 PM
It just a reason to make bitcoin have bad image, criminal was happened before bitcoin become public money. Although without bitcoin, criminal will always happen. Criminal increase because of social welfare, unemploye and other economic problem. It's not related with bitcoin
You are right that these crimes are for getting the benefits which the criminals do not have and bitcoin do not convince people from itself to start crimes so it is not good that people blame bitcoin for crimes. But instead of that if these people start to work to provide benefits to people then no one will do crimes.
You still take crime in the truest sense of the word? It is necessary to pay attention only to one point that, under the law of many countries, tax evasion is also a crime. And from this we can already conclude that all Bitcoin users do not pay taxes and automatically violate the law.

Not at all violating the law because there is no law that regulates about bitcoin at all. On the other hand, governments in different parts of the world only warn people to be vigilant, but not prohibit the use of bitcoin, and if you talk about taxes, if there is an official bitcoin market exchanger in your country, then every transaction we do there is subject to transaction tax, so all our local activities are legal, global transaction activity need not matter until there is clear regulation.
2523  Economy / Economics / Re: What don't you like about Banks and Banks controlling your money on: May 31, 2017, 11:27:55 PM
Talking about bank well honestlly I don't like the bank because they always charge me for everything even for nothing like fee for using atm machine, fee for transfer to the same or another bank and the most crazy is you will always pay monthly fee even though you don't use their service for transaction, well i think it just my bank, right?On the other hand it's centralized they have ultimate controll over my money they can freeze it or maybe run away. You know what i prefer to save my money on my bedroom instead of saving them out there, maybe if i had lot of money i will consider it.

I once had a problem with the bank where my account was suspected of doing illegal transactions but I never did, but didn't last long and we solved the problem by mutual agreement. Bank is a centralized product, and you live with a centralized capitalist system, if you deplore transfer fees and monthly fees for system development and hire staff and employees at the bank, at least your account authority is guaranteed by the government to be safe guarded, you must understand correctly. This is much better than you save one billion in your home and then you are robbed or your house is on fire. Over time, in my opinion, bitcoin will also be included in the bank application system.
2524  Other / Off-topic / Re: What's your way of spreading Bitcoin knowledge? on: May 31, 2017, 11:18:01 PM
I just talk to people about it occasionally and if they are interested in hearing more about it then I have no qualms going and talking more and helping them to learn more about it. It's not exactly a very effective means of spreading interest or whatever in Bitcoin but typically the results are good when I find someone that actually wants to learn about it.

I might try to do more but it was never something I saw as really urgent, to be honest.

Everyone would think the same thing, but this is not always effective because I often explain to many people and only 20% of people are really interested in bitcoin. But at least this is much better than being silent and not doing anything to raise this community. For now I tend to only explain to people who ask and are really interested, these people come to me automatically because I formed a community that always gathered every month and always bring new people.
2525  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: May 31, 2017, 11:09:25 PM
I don't think that Bitcoin can make bank disappear at all. Because right now there are a lot of Banks that are already trusted and also usable to those who have their own company. Because Banks can also do other things than just saving money.
i agree with you that bitcoin will never disappear the bank because we now that bank play very important role in their country and we know that bank controlling the fiat money and if everyone adopt the bitcoin and any local shop accept the bitcoin then i hope bitcoin will down the bank.

Banks will not disappear because of intervention from the government that requires the authorization of financial institutions currently controlled by fiat. Bitcoin is a cutting-edge technology for future projects, if we discuss this for now it will not be suitable, but in the future bitcoin will take the world's financial influence and inevitably banks have to adapt this technology.
2526  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When did you start gambling? (Because of BCT Promotion?) on: May 25, 2017, 07:21:23 PM
When did you start gambling online (and offline if you do not mind sharing)? Is it because of the awesome Games and Rounds forum at Bitcointalk?

Do you only start gambling after you use Bitcoin (or any other cryptocurrency) because you feel that you cannot be tracked?

I am a person who likes to read many websites about information technology, and I see there are interesting advertisements about online gambling sites. I automatically create an account and enjoy it. All run without coercion and not convoluted. Signature campaign also contributed greatly to my familiar gambling site, many people were using gambling bbcode and made me really want to know straight to their site.

I'm not concerned about an anonymous profile or not because it's basically same. I am only concerned about the convenience of transactions, very happy to play in gambling sites that have a fast response in service and many give promos and tournaments in every week.
2527  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Social aspect of gambling - do you ever gamble with a friend? on: May 25, 2017, 07:08:15 PM
I used to do it in online poker, it's great to do a trick to share card info and make a conspiracy with friends. About our profits get a decent result and divided according to the percentage of income. But that is the past where we all have been busy with each other's lives, if examined again this is very fun because not only think about income, but friendship and solid team work.
2528  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Saving bitcoins on: May 25, 2017, 07:00:43 PM
By storing bitcoin in our wallet it will be better if you save your money in bank, With our patience saving for a long time on the bitcoin wallet so at an increased value we will get more profits than we benefit from the bank.
Today only save and only the preservation can bring big profits, I do not even need to think about selling, I already understood this for myself when I saw the prices for Bitcoin today.

At least save money in the bank makes us a little more relaxed compared to storing bitcoin. Bitcoin has fluctuations that make our minds not calm every day, but for now it is very profitable. I still share the bitcoin finance portion by 30% in the hope that I can multiply it to 100% this year in gambling and trading market.
2529  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: One of many reasons why I love bitcoin on: May 25, 2017, 06:50:14 PM
Because bitcoin provides an opportunity where I don't need a lot of competitors in searching and earn a fairly large income, in this time it is very difficult to work in the capital and the average company wants only one person out of 1000 job applicants. Bitcoin really changed my life and made me have many positive expectations in the future.
2530  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Your biggest bitcoin regrets? on: May 25, 2017, 06:39:37 PM
My biggest regret for bitcoin is in 2013 where looking for btc in my country is still fixated on hyip program. I was somewhat traumatized by this type of investment and chose not to follow it, but at that moment the btc search wave emerged from stellar.org and I started actively to follow it. As time went by I was very busy in real work so I wasn't online for the next 2 years. After I came back online it was very unexpected that bitcoin prices rose sharply and I only collected about 1 btc. If I knew about the potential of bitcoin every year, I would not stop to look for it since 2013.
2531  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do You Go to Land Based Casinos? on: May 25, 2017, 07:13:22 AM
I've went to real casino once, maybe around one year ago with my family as we were on vacation and there's casino nearby. I don't know most of the game and only watch people play and later played a littlw bit on slot and roulette.

So how's the experience? Did you like on how people are living there fast? Did you liked the crowd there? Because the ambiance of a land base or real casino is totally different from just gambling online in front of your desktop computer. I went to a real casino and I can say it's really crazy to see a lot of people gambling all day long.
It is different no doubt about that, when you gamble in your computer, you can do it at your own pace, without anyone interrupting you and you can drink and eat whatever you want, but in a casino while the games themselves are slower there are hundreds of distractions and you need to be aware of them also you need to take care of people that go to the casinos and are trying to steal from you something you don’t have to worry about when you gamble online.

You guys are accustomed to gambling in solitude (online) and too skeptical of the original gambling system. I prefer a real casino and I feel the crowd you call as a bully as the trigger of maximum zeal to earn an absolute victory. People who agree with my comments will feel tremendous energy as a famous artist. I prefer the boisterous winning applause than just sitting in front of my laptop. I also imagine if bitcoin can be applied to a real token.
2532  Economy / Economics / Re: How to teach kids about Bitcoin? on: May 25, 2017, 07:03:37 AM
Can start by teaching some faucet of the android games app, we don't have to direct them to earnings first, point them to the fun and comfort. If directly taught to create an account on this forum will obviously cause concerns about gambling and some things that are very risky about investing.
2533  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: May 25, 2017, 06:54:56 AM
We were born in the era of paper money, and the history of internet technology has not reached all over the world. It took hundreds of years to make people into digital generation, in this case bitcoin is the latest innovation to bring about change in the future. I think paper and metal currencies will remain forever, even bitcoin will also adapt them.
2534  Economy / Economics / Re: Reason why you should Buy bitcoin now on: May 25, 2017, 06:47:20 AM
wow that's a great news. I'm planning to invest more in bitcoin to gain more profit in the next 2 years. by the end of this year i will invest in bitcoin and trade half of it on altcoins so i can use altcoin for trading and gambling. im addicted in gambling but i have a selfcontrol so it's nothing for me. i would invite my friends to invest in bitcoin and im gonna spread this info in my friends so they will invest in bitcoin like me.
That's a good idea. Bitcoin price right now is increasing and its good to buy and hold for it. Investing it is also a good Idea because it has a big possibility to earn more bitcoin. Self control is the thing that you need because this may be the reason of your loss or gain. In gambling its taking a risk so you should be careful whenever you gamble.

Actually if we only invest bitcoin just by storing it in a personal wallet, the profit earned is very much, but if you have a lot of gambling experience, it will be a great thing. You should buy bitcoin right now because the addition of bitcoin values is currently very unexpected.
2535  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is a good investment, but never a global currency on: May 25, 2017, 06:40:02 AM
Bitcoin will never become a 100% global currency, so just forget that. This pipe dream of Bitcoin becoming a global currency, is impossible. People and countries cannot even come together on things like climate change and cultural differences, so why would they accept Bitcoin as a reserve currency?

80/20 will be with us, as long as there are capitalist systems in this world. ^hmmmmm^

now you are telling the truth. Some enthusiasts are just too optimistic . BTC is mostly negative on media coverage and it is lack of regulation. will it be the world currency? doubt it.

The main reason why this happens is that the idea of bitcoin creation goes against capitalism, the world wants to centralize so that the state can control the economy of their respective peoples, I don't say they will not accept bitcoin, but it does need global regulatory processes and regulation. Currently bitcoin to be the best investment in online business, in the future nothing can stop bitcoin, the best way is to adopt it.
2536  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: May 24, 2017, 07:02:28 PM
Yes, but it's high risk way to make money. You can also put on Margin Buy 1:1 to make BTC even further.
How can you say that holding bitcoin for a long time is a risky way to make money because i think that is not true and you can easily make money, a lot of money, when you hold it for long time and it is safer from margin or any kind of growing bitcoin because you don't need to risk it and you just need is to hold your bitcoin for a long time.

I try to understand the phrase "risk" with the understanding that if we just keep bitcoin without continuing to try to multiply it with some effort will be very risky when bitcoin falls very far beyond expectations. On the other side, it would be better if we face this risk with other risks including using margin in trading market, would be more profitable.
2537  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is your trading strategy? on: May 24, 2017, 06:44:38 PM
I try to enjoy the trade and not think about how to make money trading
The main point trader willing to invest their money to some coins because profit and no one can avoid this thing, if you just doing trade for fun only this is not your place mate. May I know, how much you have collected so far from trading with your "enjoy" behavior ?

Maybe he just considers trading as an emotional comforter when losing in gambling, or indeed a hobby because income has been earned from other types of investments, this is more appropriate to online business strategy and not a strategy in trading market. But I am sure his views will change if it is getting a significant profit.
2538  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How is trading *not* gambling? on: May 24, 2017, 06:36:47 PM
How different is trading from just gambling? I know there seems to be a  big difference with technical analysis and whatnot, but in the end aren't you just betting on something completely random?
Actually, if you trade by guessing without making research, that can be considered as gambling. They differ for a reason. Trading is a matter of knowledge, analysis, speculation, updates in news, and many more that can help to make a better profit through trading. In the other hand, gambling is absolutely a matter of luck and guessing. Gambling is something unpredictable that no one can get a sure profit from it.

The underlying difference is only in the longer period of time compared to gambling, we can analyze the graph that is not only based on luck, it is true if we only see the trollbox or just trade with the prediction is indeed in the category of gamble but with different contexts because more use the instinct healthy and not stuck with players and bookies.
2539  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you manage ur emotions? on: May 24, 2017, 06:29:40 PM
When we talk about our emotions on how to manage it,many people fall unto this one, whether in business, schooling, spiritual, and mentality. but if we know only the basic rules of it,it will surely we can manage our emotion properly and we will stand firm on what we originate the plan.

Now we are calm and therefore we speak about the need to be able to control emotions. We talk about this and discuss it. But, when a critical situation sets in, it is unlikely that any of us will remember this topic and the advice that is here

When critical situation occurs, many traders or even professionals will have the same emotions, the true difference of emotional control can only be gained from experience of loss and accumulated into an ever-expanding analysis. Management can be learned but it is useless if it has no negative experience.
2540  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Difference between Bitcoin and real money? on: May 24, 2017, 05:44:07 AM
Bitcoin wouldn't replace regular fiat because the amount of people that use fiat is at a high amount compared to the amount of people that use Bitcoin for payments. I think that Bitcoin is the only payment method that allows people to send money to the other people online without spending that much money online for transactions.

People like to spend Bitcoin then complain that the transaction fee is just  at a high amount that will sway the people far from Bitcoin though they don't really know that they don't have to spend that much money on Bitcoin transactions. If people keep that up then there won't be a need for Bitcoin to replace regular money.

Bitcoin is very much more efficient in financial transactions because it only needs to use smartphones and internet, we can make transactions wherever we want with very light and fast cost, in fiat we continue to deal with tax transactions between countries and interest rates are much more. It should be a lot of people already have to understand about bitcoin.
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