What does anger have to do with accepting the truth? And why do you think that I am angry? Most people want the truth in life. So far, evolution is purely science fiction.

The science fiction novel, "Fallen Angels," was co authored by Larry Niven, Jerry Pournelle, and Michael Flynn, and published by Jim Baen - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallen_Angels_%28science_fiction_novel%29. But we have thousands of novelists writing and speaking about evolution as though it were a proven fact when there has never been anything in it that has been proven to be, for-a-fact, evolution.

If evolutionists said something like, "We have a good story here, it might be true but we just don't know, we'd like it to be true but there is a lot that suggests that it isn't," and other things like that, evolution would probably be acceptable. But to state that it is fact when it is far from being known to be fact, and when many other things show that it is impossible as it is theoretically stated, turns it into a lie.

Why do you like being lied to so much? Why do you like participating in a lie like evolution? Are you gaining great pleasure in seeing how far you can pull the wool over the eyes of so many people?

Evolution is a hoax, and you know it.

That which is called "education" is often based in technical things that don't answer the basic needs of people... spiritual needs. The uneducated people listen to Bible readings, or read the bible if they have a little education, and are focused thereby on the things that will give them eternal life.

It's a pride thing in the educated people. Or a thing that makes them think that they are finding out what is important, when the complexity of the universe is way beyond any little education they are receiving. Educated people are often self deluding in this way.

However, the strength of spirit is the only thing that affects "more religious." Why? Because according to the complete definition of the word "religion," all people essentially live by religion, no matter the quantity or quality of their education.

So, you would rather go after Coincube with your stupid questions that I already answered multiple times. It's because you think mere talk is proof for something, without going after the meat of the content of the talk.

Do you think that you are complex enough to determine that believing in something is simple?

God placed us here for His own pleasure, part of which is so that we can have pleasure, which happens best and most when we recognize His greatness and worship Him, for which He rewards us (even though it was He Who gave us the ability to worship Him), so that He gets glory from us, so that He has an excuse to return goodness to us for the glory that He receives, so that we both, God and mankind, can increase throughout eternity.

Your self-imposed stupidity is like the core of a black hole... extremely dense, but existing only in a single point - note that according to geometry, points don't exist. Rather, they are the "place" where two real things touch each other. You should be thanking God that He is holding you alive, and giving you a chance to turn back to Him... before it is too late for you.


As I have told you maybe a dozen time, the only free will we have, exists regarding aspects of our faith in God. Remember how God elevated Abraham as explained in Genesis in the Bible? God did it because Abraham happened to turn a bit of his free will towards God in ways that surprised and pleased God. Then, in His delight, God rewarded Abraham by both, physical reward, and the ability to increase his (Abraham's) own faith within himself. A tiny touch of Abraham-free-will, and the big complete self-control of God-free-will working together.


As I have told you in the past, Jesus is the rock that God can't lift. Why can't God lift it? Because Jesus is God, and yet is distinct from God in ways not understandable. The Rock, Jesus, lifted Himself onto the cross (because He could have overcome the people that seemed to be doing the lifting, any second), willingly died there, and then arose from death. He is the rock that God can't lift, but He lifted himself. Note that those of us who believe in God/Jesus are being moved into a place of glory similar to Jesus.



Again, there is no contradiction in the killing thing.

Any and all people that God commanded ancient Israel to kill, were people that were killing other people for nothing, and raising up children who did not believe in God and would die in Hell. So, God was stopping the killing by executing them.

In addition, the earth is he Lord's and all its fullness. It's His property. Since we barely understand the thinking and wisdom of God because of our remoteness, talking against Him is simply a failure on our part.

You are the one who is mistaken. Not believers in God, and certainly not God. When will you stop making your mistakes? Or is it that you have locked yourself into perpetual mistake making with no change ever forthcoming?

There was a time that Satan was on God's side, as well. You are far from the first joker who has turned against God. Satan might have had a bit of an "chance," because God had given Him tremendous power and glory. But even if yo are a billionaire, your strength is only the strength of man, which exists in weakness without God.

Only if the people freely want that force against themselves, a thing which you seem to want for yourself.

FTFY, I wish you fucking idiots would stop arguing the Earth is round when you mean to say that it's a globe.



1. Elevation increases the distance to the horizon as the ground has to rise up to meet the eye; the higher the elevation the more ground is required to meet the horizon. This is perspective and convergence at work.

2. All images produced by NASA and all other so called space agencies are fraudulent; the Earth is covered by a dome and is a closed system i.e. space is a hoax and a lie.

3. There are strict rules and regulations on air travel, you can't just tell the pilot to go fly in a straight line.

4. A stick in the ground with a shadow? You mean a sundial? They prove the Earth is flat via the path of the Sun.

5. Ships don't go over any curve it's all perspective, convergence and other optical effects such as refraction, atmospheric lensing, looming, mirages, etc... that make ships disappear at the horizon. You can confirm this yourself by watching a ship disappear with naked eye then pull it back into full view with a pair binoculars.



The Earth is not a globe, it's a flat and motionless circular (round) plane covered by a dome.

That's what I said. He knows exactly what is the best religion to convince every person. You simply are forgetting the part about convincing, and are looking at forcing instead. God doesn't want forced robots in the people he created. He made a bunch of those forced robots in the plants and animals. He wants beings that have some free will. Yet He isn't going to give His glory to anyone else. You keep on ignoring the way it works. You will ultimately lose eternal life in glory if you don't change.

He created these religions, by listening to people's inner thoughts, and then giving them the religion that would help them turn to Him for salvation the most. That's why people choose and have various religions. It's what they need to find the true religion that provides salvation from death into eternal life.

dream and see the earth from the outside, then tell us.

Actually I am confident you are underanalyzing it.

If we drilled down into each of your points we would find we disagree on a lot.

We would disagree on the reason the poor and uneducated people are more religious than educated and independently wealthy.

We do disagree on the insights available in religious texts.

We would probably disagree on the nature, source, and definition of evil as well as the root cause of most human suffering.

I don't know where you got the idea I said slavery was a good thing so we would disagree on whatever logic you took to reach that conclusion.

If we debated each of these points to exhaustion and were both honest in our dialogue we could probably in short order trace them back to a difference in basic assumption.

I suspect that at the foundation you have accepted basic premises about the universe such as things are essentially random and that there is no ultimate purpose to life beyond the mechanical act of propagation and reproduction. Such a metaphysical foundation is not something you can prove. It is something you assume apriori your faith if you will. I on the other hand have adopted a very different apriori Truth so we disagree and that is ok.

Once you understand that our primary difference is one of faith you can better understand the pathological hatred of some extremist have on both sides of the division. Not everyone is up to a challenge to their faith. Many of us do not examine it and cannot clearly articulate it. Those most lacking in self reflection deny they have a faith. Disrupt the foundation and the entire edifice of beliefs built upon it becomes unsound. People can and often do lash out rather then face that.

Take popcorn1 for example. He is so riled up that that he is not only swearing but when he quoted my post he took the time to delete part of the link to Jordan Peterson's fantastic lecture series to make it nonfunctional. Some people simply cannot handle challenges to their faith.

Lights in the sky are self evident.

Your link is completely theoretical. There is all kinds of idealism and hopes within it. But not of it shows even one factual thing regarding evolution. All the points within it still fit adaptation better.

Evolution is proven to be a hoax more than ever, because all attempts to show that it is not a hoax, revolve around talk rather than hard science.

I have laid out my own worldview for you in some detail. I have handed you my looking glass if you will and given you a chance to examine it.

I find the picture to be crystal clear but maybe for you the image is out of focus or you find yourself simply unable to use it.

You can certainly choose to reject the Abrahamic faiths but that is not a conclusion but a beginning. Having thrown away the looking glass that got you and your ancestors to where you are today you are now wandering blindly and in great need.

The logical result of gutting ones foundational principles without accepting a replacement ideology is incoherence and self-contradiction. Overall that is not a good place to be.

Your task now is to find Truth to the best of your ability, and your dislike of philosophy is going to make the process more difficult for you. What you need is to build a fully integrated and coherent worldview for yourself and accomplishing that is no small task.

I would recommend against Nihilism. I have examined that road and do not think it leads anywhere good. Maybe look at Bhuddism. They usually focus on compassion, understanding, and limiting human suffering and simply avoid the question of God. That is a far better approach then incoherence or illogical denials.

Dalai Lama Speaks - What About God?
https://spectrumofbeliefs.blogspot.com/2009/04/dalai-lama-god-what-about-god.html?m=1

Your question gets us into the domain of truth theory. It is a complex topic.

Unless you are an adherent of philosophical skepticism you accept that objective reality aka truth exists and can be known.

The question we must then answer is how do we know something is true? What non arbitrary criteria or metric do we use to determine truth?

The best answer to this question that I know of is the the Coherence theory of truth. Here is a brief description of what this is.

Coherence Theory of Truth
http://mrhoyestokwebsite.com/Knower/Useful%20Information/Three%20Different%20Theories%20of%20Truth.htm

You are concerned that you cannot prove God exists to your satisfaction. My reply is that your inability to prove God has in this instance absolutely no relevance to Truth of God.

It is important to remember what we can prove.


A priori Truth is mathematically inevitable. God is such a Truth. The religious have a more elegant way of summing this up. They call it the necessity of faith.

You ask why can't I prove God? This is the wrong question. The correct question is can I build an integrated and coherent worldview without God? Can I follow the coherence theory of truth and construct a True worldview without God.

Only you can answer that question for yourself. I will tell you, however, that for me the answer was no.

The only difference between stars and planets is the autonomous motion of the latter; nothing but holographic lights projected off of a concave mirrored dome. Go count them yourself.

I don't want to divert the topic here, but child marriages occur in many of the western nations as well, including nations which boast of 100% literacy rates. India is a country of 1,300 million people. You'll find all sort of psychopaths here, including pedophiles who want to marry 10-year old girls.

And BTW, some of the Indian states recently enabled individuals to identify as transgender in the census forms.

Well, it is you who are sounding more like notbatman. Consider. Are scientists people or not? If they are people, they are going to have hopes and dreams and failures and incorrectness just like people who are not scientists.

Religious people believe their religion based on things they believe. But there are some things in every religion that are truth. For example, the location of a city listed in a religious book. All religious books list something that is real and factual. The religions are the same.

Science has things that are factual, just like religion. But science has believers in things that are not known to be factual, and those believers often even know that the things that they believe in might not be factual. Sounds like religion to me.

So, when you have so-called evidence for evolution that can be better understood as adaptation, along with no proof for evolution, you have a religion called evolution... at least in the minds of those who believe in evolution.

In addition, evolution belief fits what the detailed definition of religion states. Check the whole definition at http://www.dictionary.com/browse/search?s=t and see if part of it doesn't match evolution... since there isn't any absolute fact for evolution at all.

Continue with your evolution religion if you want. It doesn't bother me at all, since it is your choice. But have a chance to wake up through the things that I am saying here.

Evolution is a hoax.

There is no need to consider yourself any name. There is a great need to determine what you believe in and why.

Consider the various religions and ideologies as looking glasses. They are functional instruments designed to take us somewhere.

Now some instruments may be totally obscured their lenses covered in mud or painted over so they offer very limited guidance. Others may offer satisfactory images but simply be unavailable locally where someone needing it can obtain it.

What is important is that we pick the best looking glass that we can and grab ahold of it. If we do that we maximize our odds of heading in the proper direction.

If we select a sufficient instrument it sustains us and itself through us. It guides us away around the worst ravines and obstacles. If we pick an inferior or opaque glass we may walk over the edge of a cliff.

As we head in the proper direction we or those who follow us will eventually encounter others heading in the same direction. That is when the opportunity arises to examine other looking glasses and if necessary clean the mud or paint spots off of our own.

Why would I consider that you might be an atheist? I have been saying that there aren't any atheists, because anybody with those tendencies knows for a fact that God might exist somewhere that he hasn't checked out yet. So, he knows that God might exist. So he isn't an atheist, no matter who he is. He is just trying to be one in some cases.

You have had some Christian training. But rather than seeing the logic in Christianity, you would rather present some fallacies about the religion, than accept the truth of it. It's who you are trolling. You are simply against God because you are. You don't really have a reason. You simply are.