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2561  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BLOCKCHAIN account- Newbie - how to get one? on: January 02, 2023, 12:03:23 PM
No, nothing in yet, still sitting pending. I will give it till afternoon and chase - which aware wont bode well.
Pending on the casino website you mean? This means they haven't actually sent the transaction yet. Some sites wait for several customers to withdraw and then batch all the transactions together. You'll probably just have to wait longer. Once the transaction is actually broadcast you'll see the coins show up in your Electrum wallet - first as "unconfirmed", and then they will confirm a little later, depending on the state of the network at the time.

Ok re same address then ( if all goes to plan ), so i will simply copy and paste the exact same address i just did yesterday then..and request the final monies.
Correct.
2562  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Request for information about fee-free transactions on: January 02, 2023, 11:59:45 AM
Those transactions that are made with zero fee are probably made by the miners/mining pools and they included their own transactions.
Correct.

If you look at the zero fee transactions using the link you have provided above, there are generally two categories of transaction. The first are transactions with 20-30 inputs. Each of those inputs come from the same address, are in the region of 6.3 BTC, and are all outputs from coinbase transactions. These transactions are a mining pool consolidating their block rewards in to one or two addresses. The second are transactions with 1 input and 3,000 outputs. The inputs to these transactions are consolidated outputs from the transactions just described above. These transactions are mining pools paying out earnings to all the individual miners mining on their pool.

So yes, the majority of zero fee transactions are mining pools directly mining their own transactions.
2563  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Request for information about fee-free transactions on: January 02, 2023, 10:34:14 AM
With sending from segwit addresses, you decrease the transaction fee, because your transaction would include some witness data that are not counted when calculating the transaction fee.
They are counted. Witness data is counted as one quarter the size of regular data.

The calculation is defined in BIP 141. To calculate the transaction weight, you take the base size of the transaction without the witness data, multiply it by 3, and then add the total size of the transaction with the witness data included. This means that the witness data is only counted once, while non-witness data is counted four times. This gives you the transaction weight in weight units, which you divide by 4 to get the virtual size in vbytes.

In effect, this means that for non-witness data there is a 1-to-1 correlation between bytes and vbytes, while for witness data, it is 1 byte to 0.25 vbytes.
2564  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Can't we avoid reorgs once and for all? on: January 02, 2023, 10:03:38 AM
Therefore, one of the two winners' work (for rolling, whatever) is wasted.
I don't think it is.

The single winning hash itself is wasted, sure, because that block is eventually made stale* when the other winning block at the same height is built upon. But all the hashes which failed to find a winning block are not wasted.

As an example, consider that we have 200 EH/s at present. With 200 EH/s, the average block time is 10 minutes. Two miners simultaneously find a block at the same height and broadcast them. Half the network, 100 EH/s, attempts to build on Block A, and 100 EH/s attempts to build on Block B. Within 10 minutes on average, someone will successfully mine another block on top of one of those blocks, and the other block will be discarded.

Now, let's take the situation where half the network build on Block A, and the other half of the network do nothing. We now only have 100 EH/s instead of 200 EH/s, and it takes twice as long to find the next block. All the miners who were trying to mine on top of the now discarded Block B did not waste their work any more than any other miner who did not find the winning hash of the next block wasted their work. They all went to securing the network, regardless of the method by which they were unsuccessful.



*Although commonly used, orphan is the wrong term here.
2565  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BLOCKCHAIN account- Newbie - how to get one? on: January 02, 2023, 09:48:54 AM
so....i will do the exact same process...generate a new seed..just..click the button....simple as that...and in my wallet i will have  2 lots of bitcoins amounting to around 350 euro. Right? )
You can use the same address again, or you can you use a different address from the same wallet. It makes no difference in the long run. You do not need to go through the process I gave above of generating a set of seed words a second time.

but ill be happier with that process as at least i dont have to rely on casinos...and they cannot claw it back right? or ..an error and it 'disappears' from my wallet
They cannot claw it back. Bitcoin transactions are irreversible. Once it is in you wallet, it will stay there until you send it somewhere else (provided your computer is not hacked or anything like that). Make sure the 12 words you wrote down are kept safe and offline, and never share them with anyone since you can use them to gain access to your wallet.

Looking at the current state of the network, your transaction should be confirmed by now and your coins should be in your wallet.
2566  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Private key from biometric data? on: January 02, 2023, 09:42:08 AM
Biometric identification is not new, it's used since many years in many serious areas and no big issues had been reported concerning that matter afaik.
I wouldn't say no big issues. There have been facial scanners which have been fooled by a simple photo of the subject. Someone was able to bypass an ultrasonic fingerprint scanner simply by taking a photo of the necessary fingerprint with his phone and then 3D printing a replica, in a process that took him under 3 minutes - https://imgur.io/gallery/8aGqsSu. Biometrics are not secure.

Let's say your base figures had a heavy degree of altercation 20 years later.
The same individual now has permanent illness, missing a limb/thumb, no hair and altered DNA from time, lets toss in a radioactive event.
How far has 20 years deviated your base samples?
You don't even need to go as far as this.

When cells multiply, as is happening inside your body all the time, they (in general, excluding a few specific types of cells) must copy your entire genome. Although this process is very accurate, it is not 100% accurate, and random mutations, swaps, insertions, deletions, etc., are happening constantly. These mutations often occur in genes which that cell doesn't use, or in non-coding parts of our DNA, or even in a gene it does use but it doesn't affect it significantly, and so on, meaning that the cell isn't faulty and so isn't removed by your body and the mutation lives on. If you took two different samples from the same person at the exact same time and sequenced their DNA, then they will not match 100%.

Now, this doesn't matter for most of the things we use DNA sequencing for. Crime scene investigating, for example. If the DNA matches 99.99999%, then you can be certain it is the same person. The same for screening for genetic diseases, or tracking ancestry, or so on. But for generating private keys it's a far different story. If you don't match exactly (which you never will), then you will not generate the same private key.

It is not a trivial problem to ensure that you can extract the exact same private key from different DNA samples from the same person. And if you figure out a way to do it, then an attacker can do the exact same thing with a few of your dead skin cells which you leave on everything you touch.
2567  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Invalid private key error on: January 02, 2023, 09:25:34 AM
Maybe we need to take a step back and ask some basic questions like why didn't the OP check the private key when he first got it to make sure it was valid?
There are a lot of red flags here which make me think this is a scam, from the "seller" sending OP a raw private key instead of making a transaction, through to the key containing invalid characters. However, there is nothing OP can do about any of these red flags now, and we can only attempt to work with what he has in his possession. I strongly suspect OP has been scammed and there are no coins to recover, but we can at least try.

If the private key cannot be validated then dispute the transaction with paypal get your money back. post on the forum that they tried to scam you. etc. etc.
You can correct me if I'm wrong (since I've never used PayPal), but my understanding is that there is a time limit of 180 days to open a dispute. PayPal are not going to entertain a dispute for a transaction which is in the region of 10 years old.
2568  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Invalid private key error on: January 01, 2023, 09:27:54 PM
It starts with 5 but the second character is ‘F’ followed by other characters with two invalid Base 58 characters and checksum error which  makes me understand that last four characters are not correct. So, in total the key has the atleast 7 characters wrong and could be more.
It has to start with 5H, 5J, or 5K.

The invalid checksum is telling you that the checksum is not correct for the key you entered. We already know that is the case because the key contains invalid characters. This does not necessarily mean the checksum contains errors - the checksum may very well be the correct checksum for the correct key and will validate just fine once you sort the other errors.

Appreciate your suggestions and advice.
Use btcrecover as I suggested above. If you are struggling with this, then your only option would be to ask a third party wallet recovery service to run it for you. I'd be happy to give it a shot as well, but this will necessitate you sharing your incorrect private key with either the wallet recovery service or myself.
2569  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BLOCKCHAIN account- Newbie - how to get one? on: January 01, 2023, 09:20:33 PM
Ok, although i have no idea what you are meaning re 'segwit' let alone 'legacy' etc etc
Segwit addresses begin with "bc1". You say the withdraw button is not clickable when you enter a segwit address.
Legacy addresses begin with "1". You say the withdraw button is indeed clickable when you enter a legacy address.

Some poorly set up websites only accept legacy addresses, so this seems to be the problem here. The instruction I gave you will let you set up a legacy wallet in Electrum. The "seed thing" is known as a seed phrase, and is a very common part of bitcoin wallets. By writing down the 12 words you are backing up your wallet, and the same 12 words can be used to recover your wallet in the future.

I take it...IF...IF...it works, and IF ..IF  i get any monies via bitcoin....it goes into this Electrum thang...and....then i can forget the casino...done their part..and i can then 'mess about' trying to get it coverted to FIAT or whatever.     That right?  no need for explination at this point, albeit thanks for the replies and time taken.
Yes. There are many ways you can trade bitcoin in your wallet in to a fiat currency of your choice.
2570  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Question about lightning network. on: January 01, 2023, 06:23:00 PM
Does a transaction get sent to the Blockchain when you use the Lightning Network to send payment to someone you're not directly connected to via an intermediary node? Because, according to what I've read, only the first and last transaction appear in the Blockchain, I'm not sure if those involving an intermediary node will as well.
You are confusing different concepts here.

Lightning transactions are never committed to the blockchain. It does not matter if you pay someone you are directly connected to, or if you pay someone via 20 intermediaries. These transactions do not get broadcast or mined on the main layer.

The "first and last" transactions you have read about are the transactions to open and close your Lightning channel. Let's say you open a channel with me. That opening transaction is broadcast and mined on the blockchain, even though we haven't actually exchanged any coins yet. We can then pay each other back and forth as many times as we like, and if I am connected to other channels too, then you can pay other people using me as an intermediary. None of those payments, either between us or you using me as an intermediary, are broadcast or mined. When one or both of use decides we want to close our channel, then the closing transaction is broadcast, just like the opening transaction was.
2571  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BLOCKCHAIN account- Newbie - how to get one? on: January 01, 2023, 06:03:46 PM
If you want to use Electrum to generate a legacy wallet, then this is the way to do that. You can see in the Electrum code here that what I have given you will "Create a seed", and that seed will be standard (i.e. legacy) as opposed to segwit. You can also Google the command "make_seed" to confirm that this is all that it will do. It will spit out a 12 word seed phrase, and the rest of my instructions will show you how to create a new wallet using that 12 word seed phrase, which will be filled with legacy addresses starting with "1".

Wasabi does not support legacy addresses at all, so if you don't want to use Electrum to do this, then you will need to download a different piece of wallet software.
2572  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Private key from biometric data? on: January 01, 2023, 05:45:35 PM
In oher words, despite that the huge amount of data (human body or whatever) evolves, it is still immensly similar to what it was during the last measurement, and thanks to that, I think it could be possible to use a reduction (hasing is a reduction for instance) that spits out the same string.
I'm not aware of any method to accurately and reliably reproduce identical strings from biometric data. A hash function can reduce the size of the input to a much smaller output, sure, but even enormous inputs which differ by only a single data point will produce vastly different outputs.

The only way I could imagine even approaching this would be via DNA sequencing, but even your DNA does not remain constant throughout your life. And of course you leave your DNA on everything that you touch, wear, drink from, breathe on, etc., making it very easy for an attacker to obtain a sample and reproduce your key.

And, even if we speak about this very narrow thing that fingerprints are, how often do people actually get robed their fingerprints to access their phones, bank accounts, etc...and steal everything with that fingerprint.
It's not a case of how often does it happen, but rather, why would you use a private key which could be stolen by someone doing something as simple as lifting your fingerprint from something you touched. And most currently used biometric systems are equally easily recreated, from facial recognition to eye scanners.

You mean that this link is for life, and that's a problem, right? I think you have a point there and this is critical. But I also have a gut feeling that there is a solution to that.
The solution to that is you use the biometrics as the input to some function which you salt with a password or some other data, and so if the resulting key is compromised you can generate a new one with the same biometics by choosing a new salt. The obvious downside to that is that you have now reduced the security of your system to that of a brain wallet, which are the most insecure wallets in existence.
2573  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BLOCKCHAIN account- Newbie - how to get one? on: January 01, 2023, 05:32:06 PM
Honestly, this is sounding more and more like a scam. However...

SO...how can I get this P2PKH 'address'
  • Open Electrum
  • If you cannot see a tab called "Console", then click View -> Show Console
  • Click on the Console tab
  • Paste the following code:
Code:
make_seed(seed_type="standard")
  • Write down the 12 words you are given on a piece of paper
  • Click on File -> New/Restore
  • Choose a new wallet name and click "Next"
  • Select "Standard wallet" and click "Next"
  • Select "I already have a seed" and click "Next"
  • Enter the 12 words you just wrote down and click "Next"
  • Choose a password if you want and click "Next"

This wallet will contain legacy addresses which start with "1".
2574  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Privacy Questions: Public Servers, TOR, VPN, etc. on: January 01, 2023, 05:17:38 PM
I believe that I am relating to OROBTC in the sense that he seems to be wanting something that is more of a kind of plug and play solution, if there is such a thing
Absolutely! These are generally referred to as a "node in a box". You buy the box, plug it in, and you have a node. You could look at MyNode as an example. But all of these kinds of things bring a price which is far higher than if you just set up a node yourself.

When you suggest to get an old laptop and to install and run Linux on it, I am already scared away.  Maybe it is easy peasy to run Linux, but when I personally think of easy peasy, I prefer GUI interfaces.. and yeah.. I know that is kind of stupid... because any of us should be able to NOT get scared away when we have a command window in front of us... but I am sure that many folks get scared off as soon as they consider that they might have to type in a command rather than click on a button... or to choose from a list of buttons.
There are lots of very newbie friendly Linux distros which do not require any command line stuff to set up and run. I would suggest looking at Ubuntu and Linux Mint. Both have GUIs which will feel very familiar to most people. And of course Bitcoin Core itself can be run entirely from the GUI.

But do I have to remove other software from that Mac.. what if I still want to use that Mac as a back up.. can I also use it as a kind of node too?
I have a separate device for running my node (as I suspect most people do), but there's nothing stopping you from running a node on your main device.

I would still say just give it a go. If you get half way through and throw your hands up in frustration, then you've lost nothing and at least you can say you tried.
2575  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoiners kill Bitcoin, and governments are happy, boycott the CEXs on: January 01, 2023, 05:03:34 PM
My point is that, I think as much flak as they are receiving right now, centralized exchanges are still a great addition to the industry.
Maybe they were once, but I think they have run their course. There is nothing of real utility (i.e. on/off ramps, not staking for 70% APY or other such obvious scams which are of no real world utility) that a centralized exchange offers that is not offered by a decentralized exchange in a safer, more secure, and more private way. The problem with advising newbies to use centralized exchanges are spelled out by myself and LeGaulois above - once they realize the huge risk and lifelong implications from completing KYC on a centralized exchange, it is too late to reverse their decision and they will forever have their government and various third party agencies spying on their bitcoin activities.

And yeah, this doesn't just apply to centralized exchanges, but other centralized scams in this space, like the vast majority of altcoins.
2576  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoiners kill Bitcoin, and governments are happy, boycott the CEXs on: December 31, 2022, 05:55:50 PM
Celsius, Voyager, Terra/Luna, for instance. Why are we not focusing on these ones, when they are just as damaging if not even more impactful than CEXs?
Celsius and Voyager were centralized exchanges and lending platforms, so they are included in the umbrella of CEXs. Terra was a centralized altcoin with their own centralized platform.

Every major hack, collapse, scam, bankruptcy, etc., in bitcoin's history had been of a centralized platform, service, exchange, altcoin, whatever. From Bitconnect to Luna, from Mt Gox to FTX, from ICOs to DeFi. It's always some centralized trash promising the world and delivering nothing.
2577  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BLOCKCHAIN account- Newbie - how to get one? on: December 31, 2022, 05:45:54 PM
I don't know why the posts above are mentioning things like Electrum and Tor. All you are doing is adding more confusion to an already very confused newbie.

So, advice welcome?
For the third time, share the name of the casino and a screenshot of the withdrawal page and what they are asking for. There is absolutely no difference between a Wasabi address and a Blockchain.com address, and indeed the casino has no way whatsoever to know what wallet your address comes from. It sounds like they are trying to scam you.

The only thing the casino needs to process a bitcoin withdrawal is your address. If they say they need more than this, then they are trying to scam you.
2578  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: PUBLIC ACCOUNT NUMBER FOR WASABI WALLET - Newbie question.. on: December 31, 2022, 04:53:28 PM
This will solve nothing.

First of all, blockchain.com is an online wallet so you don't download anything. Secondly, since it is a web wallet it is a very poor choice of wallet and I wouldn't recommend using it at all. But most importantly, it will not solve your issue. It also does not have "public links" since these do not exist. It will simply provide you an address just the same as Wasabi wallet does.

We can't help if you don't answer the questions I asked. Can you share the name/website of this casino, and can you share a screenshot (or at least a direct copy and paste quote) of what they are asking for on their withdrawal page?
2579  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: PUBLIC ACCOUNT NUMBER FOR WASABI WALLET - Newbie question.. on: December 31, 2022, 03:21:37 PM
Where can i find Wasabi wallets account number or Public Link?
There is no such thing.

In order to withdraw a few euros from a site, i need this address.
The only thing you need to withdraw bitcoin from a site is a bitcoin address. This will be a string of random numbers and letters, usually 26-42 characters in length, starting with either "1", "3", or "bc1".

If you want to withdraw euros from a site, you cannot withdraw them to a bitcoin wallet. You will need to withdraw them to a standard fiat bank account or similar.

The auto-generated one, which i get , when i simply click 'retrive' in my wallet isnt enough..they need the 'public link' in order to process withdrawals.
No, they don't. The only thing they need to process a withdrawal is your address. Either you are getting mixed up or this site is trying to scam you.

I would suggest that you share the name of the site you are using as well as screenshots of their withdrawal page or where else they are asking for your "public link".
2580  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Private key from biometric data? on: December 31, 2022, 02:53:30 PM
I have a question related to building a private key based on biometric data.
First - why? What are you trying to achieve? What is wrong with current methods of generating a private key that you want to do this instead?

Is it possible to build a reproducible ID, or string of characters, from a bunch of biometric measurements?
Maybe, but it is very high risk. Biometric unlocking systems such as fingerprint scanners on your phone are based on comparing your scanned fingerprint to a registered fingerprint and making sure they are close enough to unlock your device. Close enough is not suitable for generating private keys. Even a single data point being off by the smallest measurable margin will produce a completely different private key.

And even if you did manage to develop a system which can 100% reliably turn your fingerprint in to the same private key every time, then someone else can also do that and therefore utilize the inherent insecurity of biometrics to steal your coins. And of course a very minor injury or even just natural change over time would be enough to break the whole process.
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