BTC has been mined by ASIC-based mining machines for years that NO GPU CAN COMPETE WITH OR EVEN COME CLOSE TO.

 You do have quite a few altcoin options you can mine profitably with those cards.

In theory, this SHOULD work with the new "blockchain compute" 17.30 driver

 Any PREVIOUS driver that worked with the RX 5xx series DID NOT support the R9 2xx series at all.


 I'm actually a bit shocked that the blockchain compute driver has as wide a range of support as it has - and more than a bit ticked off at AMD that their previous drivers that worked on the RX 5xx series didn't support all other GCN models like this one does.

 I'm also MAJORLY ticked off that this didn't show up for LINUX first, or at the same time, given the BULK of cryptocoin mining is done on LINUX-based rigs.

This theory makes NO sense, as the plans to move ETH to Proof of Stake were announced a LONG TIME AGO.

I think that either the "ship end of November" batch was a LOT larger than previous batches, indicating that the profitability of all X11-based coins like DASH is going to get KILLED around early December, or folks were starting to look at the probable FUTURE profitability by the time that batch ships and decided it wasn't the "crazy fast return generator" the early batchs will probably be.

 Instead of selling out in an hour or less like most of the previous batches, this last one lasted DAYS.....


 Someone said at one point that the D3 was 28nm technology - gotta wonder if Bitmain has decided it's worth working on a 14nm "D5" model based on it's sales (or funded by it's sales) of the D3 - and what kind of performance that a D5 model would produce.
 45GH at 1100 watts perhaps?


 I also keep wondering why there never was a D1 model - perhaps like the aborted L1 there was some work done on a prototype at some point that never came to market but managed to stay further under the radar?

 The most widely used World of Warcraft bot (Glider) was not "created by a country", it was created by an individual who then managed to sell a bunch of copies because it worked well - and spawned a "war" with Blizzard updating their anti-bot detection and Glider getting quickly updated to avoid the anti-bot detection.
 Blizzard eventually sued the author (using some VERY bogus process and a mix of "valid" and "bogus" claims) and eventually got it shut down via a court judgement because they came up with enough "valid" infringement issues that at least one of them stuck (some of their bogus DCMA-violation and copyright infringement claims DID get struck down).

 The funny part is that they probable COST themselves some money as there were a TON of people botting, and most of them went with game cards that cost quite a bit MORE than the other available WOW payment plans - and the claims about "ruining the economy" proved to be overstated badly as the economy barely moved at ALL on pricing during the months between the shutdown of Glider and the next expansion.

A lot of virus checkers will give false positives on a LOT of software.
If you download Nicehash from their own website, it should be fine - if you get a version somewhere else, it COULD be virus or Trojan infected.

Given current pricing on the GPUs, that's not a bad price.

 Not going to make you a ton though unless you have VERY cheap or free electric, as they're all older power-hungry GPUs.

 What is an "alimentation" in a computer context?

 Mining BCH has been NEGATIVE profitability 'till very recently, as they took too long to get the diff down and the price was too low.
 Recent price jump is turning that around.

 I'm sitting this contest round out as I don't have any interest in the Trezor.

Last batch FINALLY sold out sometime this morning - think it lasted 2 days or so.

 Not sure if it was that much bigger of a batch (which it going to KILL X11 coin profitability if so once this batch gets shipped installed and mining) or if folks were looking at the probable returns and a lot decided it was an inferior option....

Try posting on AMD's website, they MIGHT pay attention to that.

 IMO AMD dropped the ball BADLY when they released this driver for Windows AND NOT FOR LINUX, since the bulk of cryptocoin rigs run LINUX.

 Worse yet - windows only, STILL no fix for LINUX - which is probably the OS on a large majority of mining rigs.

 AMD proving to be out of touch a LOT this year on the GPU side.

 Douglas is mostly fairly empty - I think the whole country population is under 50,000, so there IS an issue with finding space outside of East Wenatchee (and space THERE is kinda pricey even when you CAN find it).
 Chelan and Grant have bigger cities, but still not really big - pretty sure both of those counties are under 100,000 total pop - Grant rentals tend to be pretty cheap, Chelan tends to be pricey worse then Douglas unless you can find something that is NOT in Wenatchee or very close, then it's only semi-pricey.

 Unless you're going BIG, you don't really need "industrial" space - for a small miner, "shop" or "warehouse" type space can work fine - but if you're going "big" you can probably afford to build out from scratch and likely SHOULD do so (reference GigaWatt).

 I've never been sure if MegaBigPower and ZoomHash had their facilities in Chelan or in Douglas (MBG might be a mix of both).
 Toomin and Columbia Basin are both in Grant (both are big enough to qualify for "big business" or "industrial" rates).
 I forget who else among the "bigger" fish are in the area and still in operation for mining.

 Microsoft, Yahoo, Dell are all in Quincy in Grant country (there's at least one other "GIANT" server farm there but I'm don't remember offhand who owns it, plus some smaller ones owned by Intuit and Sabey).
 

 To be specific, AMD and IBM have "first call" on Global Foundries and the bulk of their capacity due to how Global Foundries came into existence and ended up with all of the ex-AMD and ex-IBM foundries.
 I'm not sure if GF has ANY capacity "for sale" outside of AMD and IBM.

 TSMC - first call seems to be Apple and NVidia (Cisco is SMALL potatoes by their standard and I don't know if they've even bothered moving to 14/16nm yet), possibly other smartphone makers (there ARE no significant GPU makers other than AMD and NVidia any more, Intel would be #3 but they have their own foundry space), then all the small fry like Bitmain.
 Keep in mind that AMD is making ALL of the APUs for both Sony AND Microsoft - that ALONE soaks a lot of foundry capacity given console sales numbers, possibly MORE than AMD GPU and CPU sales combined.

 Samsung - well, themselves first then NVidia (1050/1050ti) then MAYBE whatever is left over (if anything) for small fry.

 Intel pretty much never sells foundry capacity to anyone (rare exceptions for CLOSE partners like Apple for computer-specific stuff, but apparently NOT for their smartphones).

 Been available *3* times since they first started listing it, as far as I can tell - and "quantity one per person" with a 48 hour timeout - and it's ALWAYS been out by the time the timeout expired.
 2 of those 3 times it sold out in LESS than an hour, the 3'd time they actually had them in stock for a bit over 1 day (which is when I managed to get mine).

 Most of the time the lowest-cost RX 4570/480/570/580 cards they have IN STOCK are over $300.

 You say there was no way to know anything in advance, while ignoring the fact that the Vega Frontier Edition has the SAME GPU and SAME ram (but twice as much) and could give a pretty good indication of what the consumer version was going to be able to do.

 You list "Digibyte" but you don't list WHICH ALGO you were testing it on - DGB has *5* different algos it can be mined with, 2 of which are GPU viable (Skein and Groetsl) the other 3 are ASIC dominated (SHA256, Scrypt, Qubit).
 Given the listed hashrate, it *appears* you were testing the Groetsl option, but that's NOT in the article anywhere.

Because they mistake 20/20 hindsight for certainty.

 Don't look at statewide averages - this has been pointed out before A FEW TIMES in various threads.
 Any site that ONLY lists a "by state" rate is listing an AVERAGE - I don't know of ANY state in the US (possible exception for Rhode Island as it's so small) that is only covered by one power company/PUD.
 Washington State in particular is covered by AT LEAST 20 different power companies/PUDs.
 I know of quite a few COUNTIES that have more than one power company/PUD that SPLIT the country between them (Iowa is notorious this way).

 As has been SPECIFICALLY mentioned in a few threads, there are 3 counties in Washington State that can get you under 3 cents/kwh all-up cost - Chelan and Douglas for EVERYONE (Residential rates ALL UP are 3c/kwh or a hair less, as are "general service" AKA small business rates) and Grant if you use over 200 KW on average (mid-sized business rate) or higher.
 All 3 have "big" rates that are even less all-up, though none of them get down UNDER 2c/kwh (as I recall Grant gets the closest on it's "industrial" rate but it's still more like 2.5 or a bit more).
 As it happens, each of these counties is covered entirely by a single county-wide PUD - and all 3 of them OWN 1 or 2 major dams on the Columbia River (2 each for Chelan and Grant, 1 for Douglas, IIRC).

 For reference - the Grand Coulee dam (largest capacity dam in the US and as I recall it's still #1 for all of North America) straddles Grant and Okanogan counties (the Columbia is the border between the two counties in that area), but that damn is Federal owned (Bonneville Power Authority) and none of it's power output is sold to Grant County (not sure on Okanogan).

 The "average" for Washington state is a lot higher, though it's still one of the lowest STATEWIDE averages in the US it gets pulled up quite a bit by the Seattle/Tacoma area.


 Nuclear power in the US is NOT particularly cheap - way too much regulatory BS just getting the PERMITS to get plants built (and as I recall there hasn't been a nuclear plant COMPLETED in 2-3 decades), drives their amortized cost up a TON - and the INSURANCE for them is also very expen$ive (I think the only insurance carrier is the Federal Government, but not 100% sure there).

 Chickens are passe.

 Don't you know that stool pigeons are where it's at?



 

 More miners has ZERO effect on how many coins are produced.
 More miners = more DIFFICULTY, not more coins.

 I'm betting on 10x of what it was as of 15Aug2017 before the end of October 2017, and probably more like 15-20x by end of November 2017 - and likely will KEEP climbing from there, especially with this NEW D3 batch that seems to have been big enough to take HOURS to sell out.

 Keep in mind, it's NOT just the D3 - you also have IBeLink DM11G units shipping, Innosilicon A5, Pinidea PR-100 (if they actually manage to SELL any at their far-too-high price, but if they don't they COULD just mine with them), IBeLink DM22G.....


 I have to wonder how many more batches of D3 chips Bitmain has "in the pipeline"....


 In fairness, I can see a pretty good probability of all the D3 units sold to date achieving 100% ROI eventually - just not in a 2-3 MONTH timeframe unless you got in on the first batch, and likely 4-5 for the second.