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2581  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Prediction ligue 1, france football ligue on: August 13, 2016, 12:28:37 PM
A bit unexpected result from Bastia vs Paris Saint Germain (PSG). The final resut is 0-1 win for Paris SG. I thought Paris SG will win with many goals, but nope.

Bastia had a chance to equalize the score but unfortunately the accuracy of the shot is very bad
Only 1 of 10 shots on target and 9 off  target can be seen Bastia need a striker, only 2 possibilities Bastia striker bad or PSG have a strong defense

yeah psg didn't have an impressive start as they almost get draw against sc bastia , i personally usually place a handicap or both teams to score or not bets on ligue 1 matches as i didn't really have a knowledge enough about this league sounds like a true gamble Cheesy . within 5 hours there would 4 matches played. and Bordeaux vs Saint Etienne within 2 hours both have an equal power , i confused to bet on this match Sad.
2582  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dutch League Prediction Thread (Eredivisie) on: August 13, 2016, 12:20:27 PM
Ajax v Roda jc ( ajax -2 )
ajax has failed to get title last year if they not do right start this season of course roda jc will not easy to be defeated but i try my luck.
are you sure with ajax -2 handicap? i don't think they would win over 2 goals against roda jc , i really doubt on it, i prefer to place a bet on under 2.5 goals @2.45 instead play handicap even i know ajax would play at home , i just have a better confident on under/over goals .
2583  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: August 13, 2016, 10:04:30 AM
I think gambling fun. Although we can get an advantage but I do not really think about profits. Since I gamble just to play and have fun. Even if I use my benefit to gamble again if I want to gamble.
very few people think purely that gambling are really fun no matter you lost money on it. hard to believe someone's statement about gambling are fun thing for them . unless i could see that they are rich enough to wasting money.
2584  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are the chances to get a 13+ losing streak? on: August 13, 2016, 09:51:03 AM
The probability is 100%, it will eventually happen as your number of rolls increase, if you make enough rolls you will get a 1000 losing streak, it's an inevitability.
Yeah true , the more you roll the dice you would receive that 13+ losing streak or even more soon. as peope who playing dice are not countable everytime you playing and roll it i guess it's impossible to calculate how much percentage you would receive a losing or winning streak it's just would turn to a 51-49 chance .
2585  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: August 13, 2016, 09:12:39 AM
i would invest because that would be less risky to lose all my money not like in gambling
You are right to say that investing in a business or even something to trade, you can earn without risk. And gambling on the contrary, you can lose everything.

Remember to diversify your money into few different segment to reduce losses in worst cases. Apart from investing in business and trade, you can also invest in some good casino bankroll to earn good profits over the time. These casino bankroll investments are high risk so invest small % of your money.
I have been following that method in investing and it gives good result to me, it is true that investing in any investment site is very risky so we need to diversify our investment but I am just lucky enough I was able to find a good place to invest my money which are the popular and trustworthy gambling sites.


They are both risky gambling and investing, but if you are a wise person you are going to choose both of it. Invest into trading and also in gambling.
You just need to know your limitation and going to manage properly your investments there are people who are able to do both investing in gambling sites.
it's depends on each personality , if someone didn't like to gamble then they would be better to invest their money only not to gamble , but if someone didn't like to invest and waiting for long time to earn money then they would just gamble their money only without needed to invest them first.

Yes, its all about  peoples decision on how to manage their funds , we have our intellect to choose  to those things we wanted to do. We cant stop someone  on what decision  she/he would made  it doesnt matter what other people would say but if youre wise enough  then  we should go for investing if we seek for future profits.
honestly i don't want to gamble anymore and just want to do investing money and trading bitcoin also some altcoin , but it's looks gamble have been injected in my DNA i can't just stop it and leaving. so i did investing and gambling , both are running good even sometimes i get suffering lost a big amount due my stupidity.
2586  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: August 13, 2016, 09:01:16 AM
Crystal Palace - West Brom is the match I picked up for today betting. I have straight on money line for Crystal Palace as odds are very good @1.99. I don't what others think about this but I count this as free money because chances and situation all goes in favor of Crystal Palace being at home and recent performance also is factor.
not a good time to place bet on moneyline , i would like to place a bet on Crystal Palace vs West Bromwich Albion for draw or away , i expect a lot of draw result in the first match and low goals scored so i would go for Hull City vs Leicester City both teams to not score and the last match i would like to bet are Everton vs Tottenham Hotspur for under 2.5 goals.
2587  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Soccer Transfer Market 2016/2017 ! on: August 11, 2016, 06:23:23 AM
- Lyon has rise up Lacazette price become £60 millions and i think if Arsenal still want him it could be overrated
- Leicester City has refuse Arsenal bid £30 millions for Riyad Mahrez but Arsenal won't give up and will make another bid
- David Moyes as Sunderland manager want Everton player Phil Jagielka

They tried to bid high for lacazette but try to bid low for mahrez. Mahrez is much better than lacazette so it could be a great investment for arsenal, he is a promising young guy in premier league and i dont understand why most people dont really understand this, he is a great asset in premier league
just because riyad mahrez have won barclays premier league trophy last season doesn't mean he is greater player than him , lacazette have a consistence performance in last 3 seasons which i think it's worth 50 million at least for him as he has scored 73 goals out of 172 appearences in lyon since 2010 ago (effectively played in 2013)
2588  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: August 11, 2016, 06:16:14 AM
I expect to see Arsenal vs. Manchester United challenge in this years Premier League competition. Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Leicester City is way behind now. After latest transfers 2 sides hugely step up their squad quality. Considering they had harmony from last season Arsenal is one step ahead right now.
Manchester United has do great transfer of players this season and they have good quality of players and good coach but i'm so curious to see Manchester United performance because most people will expect do more for them

why arsenal and manchester united? while manchester city have bought 4 star player cost over 150 million dollar and have a great classy manager like pep guardiola and chelsea that have signed leicester star kante . arsenal only sign granit xhaka with their old manager arsene wenger. how could people say next season of BPL rivalry would between arsenal and manchester united only?
2589  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Crypto trading or gambling on: August 11, 2016, 06:02:28 AM
I'd say that gambling is easier to gain a profit from, as it is luck. However, crypto trading can be very risky and dangerous if you don't know what you are doing, as opposed to gambling where a complete newbie can jump in and win.

However, crypto trading would be a lot safer in the long run due to not having a house edge.

But, if we to compare a gambling game with no house edge, lets say, sports betting, to crypto trading, sports betting is probably safer for complete newbies, as you could follow a tipster if you are new with sports betting.
yeah gambling are the easiest way to earn and gain profit only if you lucky enough to win , if you lost? it could turn the esiest way to burn your money quickly. so never rely on bitcoin especially gambling as your fund source. it just would bring you to the dark age.
2590  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: August 11, 2016, 05:43:01 AM
i would invest because that would be less risky to lose all my money not like in gambling
You are right to say that investing in a business or even something to trade, you can earn without risk. And gambling on the contrary, you can lose everything.

Remember to diversify your money into few different segment to reduce losses in worst cases. Apart from investing in business and trade, you can also invest in some good casino bankroll to earn good profits over the time. These casino bankroll investments are high risk so invest small % of your money.
I have been following that method in investing and it gives good result to me, it is true that investing in any investment site is very risky so we need to diversify our investment but I am just lucky enough I was able to find a good place to invest my money which are the popular and trustworthy gambling sites.


They are both risky gambling and investing, but if you are a wise person you are going to choose both of it. Invest into trading and also in gambling.
You just need to know your limitation and going to manage properly your investments there are people who are able to do both investing in gambling sites.
it's depends on each personality , if someone didn't like to gamble then they would be better to invest their money only not to gamble , but if someone didn't like to invest and waiting for long time to earn money then they would just gamble their money only without needed to invest them first.
2591  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you trust to bitcoin casinos? on: August 11, 2016, 05:34:18 AM

 I don`t have trust in any casino, especially online casino. How can we know what they did, and how did they programed all their games? I read about some provably fair system, but I don`t think its true. Here on forum I read more about people who lost money, then about people who win. That is not coincidence in my opinion.

 Only thing that I can understand is betting on sport, I hope that they still cant control results in sport games around the world. If anyone decide to gamble maybe that is the best possible option.
only those people who know very well how a casino site coded and programmed based on provably fair would know the truth , we just make a speculation here without valid proof , so would be better to keep silent or just go away from online gambling.
2592  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitfinex HACKED - funds stolen ! on: August 11, 2016, 05:22:11 AM
Bitfinex is offering a reward to help catch and prosecute the hackers: http://www.coindesk.com/bitfinex-6000-btc-bounty-stolen-bitcoin

I wish them luck, but doubt their chances are very good at tracking the thieves down.
this could be a good way for bitfinex hacker to clean up their name and receive a clean money , 6,000 bitcoin are fair enough for them. they could create a scenario like this : tell them a fake information , returned the whole stolen bitcoin and they recieved a fresh 6,000 bitcoin without any problem.
2593  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do Bitcoins have Tax?? on: August 11, 2016, 12:53:14 AM
Why do you bring "tax" into a beautiful thing like bitcoin? No bitcoins do not have tax. Your earnings do. If you don't report your earnings, there won't be any tax. Voila, problem solved. You still need to be careful tho, you may end up in jail if they find out.

It's true nobody likes taxes but like with every currency and offcourse income there is tax involved in everything. And atlhough most countries just ignore bitcoin totally, some countries decided to ignore acceptance, but not the tax. They started taxing bitcoin on income. But in the near future buying stuff with bitcoin will be taxed too.
in 2014 IRS the U.S. government agency responsible for tax collection announced that a "payments worth at least $600 and made with bitcoins will be taxed" they taxed bitcoin as property btw not as currency. a greedy government , tax bitcoin but didn't support bitcoin.
2594  Other / Off-topic / Re: What do you hate about Bitcoin ? on: August 11, 2016, 12:41:27 AM
i dont hate anything about bitcoins it is a perfect currency for me to be honest
Well for me its still not a perfect currency they are have no some feature that i want from paypal that will happen in bitcoin.
One of i want to add in bitcoin is reverse payment with costumer support if they can start a case to someone who not giving a good service or product..
This is i think the one that i want in bitcoin to add feature.. so that we dont need escrow for dealing some also we can use it also outside..
for me bitcoin transaction is an excellent tool, it's even better than paypal. although still not perfect, bitcoin has had a very high price compared to paypal, other than that owned bitcoin transactions are also faster than paypal. I do not hate any of bitcoin, and I think those who hate it are people who never lose in use bitcoin
What do you mean "bitcoin has had a very high price compared to PayPal"? and from what you can measures the PayPal from the price if the PayPal is just international wallets provider. I can say that's not a logic for me.
lol even paypal is not a currency , paypal have no value. and both bitcoin and paypal are actually couldn't be compared. it's just a wrong understanding for me. however people hard to explain what bitcoin it is to public/common people make it's one of hated thing about bitcoin. yeah a hard way to explain in detail about bitcoin until they are 100% understand.
2595  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do coins get lost at a bigger rate than they are created? on: August 11, 2016, 12:22:45 AM
Most of the massive losses occurred in the early days, when people stored 20,000 BTC on old shitty hard drives and free time share USB keys.
yeah in 2013 ago there a lot of cases about missing hard drives , for example someone in london lost access to his hard drive containing 7,500 bitcoin worth 4 million pounds , he must regret it. in 2009 to 2011 bitcoin mining are earned thousands bitcoin a day and they just store it randomly due the price aren't so high like current price. noone knows how much bitcoin have lost exactly.
2596  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Soccer Transfer Market 2016/2017 ! on: August 11, 2016, 12:11:44 AM
Riyad Mahrez has told Claudio Ranieri that he'll remain with Leicester City this season. With Ranieri renewing his contract to 2020 i think that Leicester futur wil be safer and more stable.
unfortunately kante have told same thing to ranieri that he will stay at leicester city but the fact he have moved to chelsea now , i would still expect leicester city selling their star player like mahrez and vardy now or never , due noone knows both would be able to keep shining play in great shape. now or never sell them at a good price or waiting for their price dropped.

Arsenal offered quite a good amount for mahrez and yet leicester decided to keep him for himself . Now they are lingering around with this decision, however if mahrez could keep his performance for another season and be the best premier league player once again then you could start to imagine how much will he worth
yeah i heard leicester rejected arsenal bid for riyad mahrez twice , 30 million pounds and improved 35 million pounds bid recently mocked . they wants double amount than that and arsenal couldn't afford to spend that much money. well just let's see what would happened. i expect there would be a transfer saga from leicester city.
2597  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: August 11, 2016, 12:01:41 AM
Don't worry about Roberto Mancini , he already have planned a possible move to Arsenal. Of course , Arsene Wenger will not tolerate easily , he need to get some result this season to hold his job. Roberto Mancini will definitely do a very good job if he take charge Arsenal because the club have the amount funds he need , unlike Inter Milan are always lack of financial support.
I dont think Roberto Mancini is a suitable person to be Arsenal coach if Wenger is really fired. Imho, Wenger still better than Mancini at all, and there are many coaches whom still better than Mancini out there. I think Mancini is very suitable for Serie A only, even I guess AC Milan would try to hire him if Montella dont do his work well.
the rumour about mancini could replace arsene wenger position as manager popping up since a couple months ago before he sacked from inter milan, and arsene wenger confirm too that mancini eyes up arsenal manager's job he really wanted it. but i just can't believe if it would happened anytime soon , it's too imposed if they did it. not the matter he is suitable or not.
2598  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: August 10, 2016, 11:52:11 PM
Maybe it's people that already rich that get even more rich gambling since they not afraid to just lose money at very low odds and eventually win and get a massive amount of winnings in one go ^^

It was just a thought that has not materialized. If you've ever felt the ferocity in the gambling, I am sure you all your waffle this will stab you!! . Gambling is indeed very pleasant and profitable, but it is only temporary and after that you will be tested in addiction, when you lose control of your money then all will be lost are taken by gambling. You should be able to do the repair yourself to not controlled by gambling

Gambling is just good to be profitable for a short time if you think that you are going to make it as a source to become rich then you are going to be wrong at it. Unless you are going to build up your own gambling site and you have a lot of capital for operating it maybe for a year it can help you to become rich with gambling.
It’s never okay when it’s comes to gambling but the hard part is self-controlling in gambling. Maybe you’ll win once and then you’ll get too excited and decide to put all your money in it with a hope for luck but luck never come often and I can’t think of the consequences.

One thing I can say that you don’t wanna get addicted to gambling and becoming poor by loosing your current wealth, just forget about gambling and live peacefully.
hmmm yeah gambling are actually gambling , you staked certain amount to guess uncertain outcome. make the odds are against you if you gamble for long time you wouldn't be rich until whenever. you would have a higher chance to become rich by gamble if you staked all you have on roulette and see what the outcome. it's risky indeed but it's the only way.
2599  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: August 10, 2016, 11:45:12 PM
i dont think it is wrong, in my opinion it is a normal thing like smoking
lol like smoking , consuming drugs it's wrong thing and not normal thing basically. a normal person wouldn't gambling , smoking and consuming drugs. they would just walk on the routine of their lives sleep-eat-work repeat until the death comes to them.
2600  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Soccer Transfer Market 2016/2017 ! on: August 10, 2016, 11:32:24 PM
Riyad Mahrez has told Claudio Ranieri that he'll remain with Leicester City this season. With Ranieri renewing his contract to 2020 i think that Leicester futur wil be safer and more stable.
unfortunately kante have told same thing to ranieri that he will stay at leicester city but the fact he have moved to chelsea now , i would still expect leicester city selling their star player like mahrez and vardy now or never , due noone knows both would be able to keep shining play in great shape. now or never sell them at a good price or waiting for their price dropped.
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