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2581  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many Bitcoins have been provably lost? At least ... on: July 03, 2014, 01:19:06 AM
Who cares? "Lost" wealth in BTC is the same as wealth donated to every other holder of BTC in the exact proportion of their holdings. It's a self-resolving non-issue.
2582  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I hooked up a servo motor to fly a bitcoin flag when a bitcoin payment is made. on: July 03, 2014, 01:16:10 AM
How about 200+ flags, one for each country? Again, pay for it to fly, or pay for it to come down.
Bitcoin is about world unity, not about individual nations competing, that tired old paradigm.

National competition is a metaphor for war, the total antithesis of everything beautiful about the future Bitcoin makes possible
2583  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Russian Central Bank Admits “Bitcoin Might Have a Future” on: July 02, 2014, 09:28:24 PM
I thought russia ban bitcoin already ?

Yeah they said they dont like it, but now they are having second toughts about it now...wait little bit more and Chinese will have epiphany too.
Correct. That's because the plain truth is, Bitcoin is objectively superior in every conceivable way to fait scrip funny-money.

You cannot stop the truth from emerging, only swim against the current until you've exhausted yourself.



This is more true now, in the information age, than it has ever been before in the history of our species.
2584  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Keiser Report: Russell Brand (min 8.40 to min 12.30) on: July 02, 2014, 05:23:33 PM
FTFY
2585  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream? on: July 02, 2014, 05:22:06 PM
when bitcoin does at least 50 transactions per sec (that's what paypal does).
we are at 0.8...
When bitcoin does at least 1000 transaction per second.
2586  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I need some good Bitcoin resources- to help explain Crypto to an investor HELP! on: July 02, 2014, 04:50:19 PM
"I have a lot of friends who are programmers. The programmers have always gone like, "Those [Bitcoin] guys are crazy."

And then, almost 100 percent of the time, they sit down, read the paper, read the code — it takes them a couple weeks -- and they come out the other side. And they're like: "Oh my god, this is it. This is the big breakthrough. This is the thing we've been waiting for. He solved all the problems. Whoever he is should get the Nobel prize -- he's a genius. This is the thing! This is the distributed trust network that the Internet always needed and never had."

So, one of the challenges is you take people who aren't professional programmers or mathematicians and then you expect them to understand it from a standing start. And it's daunting. And so then it gets a word attached to it, like "currency" or whatever you want to call it, and then people think that it is something it isn't. And you have a sense of this, but it's a much deeper concept than currency. It's the idea of distributed trust."
—Marc Andreessen (in conversation with Brian Fung)

Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/05/21/marc-andreessen-in-20-years-well-talk-about-bitcoin-like-we-talk-about-the-internet-today/
2587  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This is a Golden transaction in the history of Bitcoin on: July 02, 2014, 04:25:11 PM
One more reason for me to believe why america is a great nation, greatest nation..
"I am against any nationalism, even in the guise of mere patriotism. Privileges based on position and property have always seemed to me unjust and pernicious, as did any exaggerated personality cult."
-Albert Einstein, My Credo (1932)

"Nationalism is our form of incest, is our idolatry, is our insanity. "Patriotism" is its cult. It should hardly be necessary to say, that by "patriotism” I mean that attitude which puts the own nation above humanity, above the principles of truth and justice; not the loving interest in one’s own nation, which is the concern with the nation’s spiritual as much as with its material welfare — never with its power over other nations. Just as love for one individual which excludes the love for others is not love, love for one’s country which is not part of one’s love for humanity is not love, but idolatrous worship."
-Erich Fromm, in The Sane Society (1955)
2588  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: VC Tim Draper Revealed as Silk Road Bitcoin Auction Winner on: July 02, 2014, 03:28:47 PM
[Still though, I'm inclined to believe that once bitcoin gains another magnitude of value he'll disclose the price.]
I suspect you may be right. When BTC is trading at 2500 $ +, no one will gasp at an 800 or 900 per coin auction bid.
2589  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: VC Tim Draper Revealed as Silk Road Bitcoin Auction Winner on: July 02, 2014, 01:38:38 PM
You can suggest it but I don't know how many will agree with your
opinion that it's a "shitty asinine practice".  What
makes it so?

News aggregation is a value-add.
Oh fine, I'll leave it alone. It just annoys me because Medium.com is a great site that deserves the traffic, and I don't like to see its traffic being hijacked in this way...

Are we supposed to know who this guy is?
You are now. His company is a Palo Alto do-gooder startup. This is great for Bitcoin and the world.
2590  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: VC Tim Draper Revealed as Silk Road Bitcoin Auction Winner on: July 02, 2014, 01:18:18 PM
Good read here: https://medium.com/@vaurum/tim-draper-wins-govt-auction-partners-with-vaurum-to-provide-bitcoin-liquidity-in-emerging-markets-88f04a1d8598

Another recommended read from the Vaurum site: The tech world's ethical crisis

I get excited whenever I see capitalists actually talking about ethics. The world certainly needs more of that.

Tim Draper had this to say:
“Bitcoin frees people from trying to operate in a modern market economy with weak currencies. With the help of Vaurum and this newly purchased bitcoin, we expect to be able to create new services that can provide liquidity and confidence to markets that have been hamstrung by weak currencies.
Of course, no one is totally secure in holding their own country’s currency. We want to enable people to hold and trade bitcoin to secure themselves against weakening currencies.”


May I humbly suggest we stop constantly throwing links at Coindesk (news aggregation) and instead link the actual source material?

Coindesk basically takes other people's news and re-posts it with a few words on their own site. it's a shitty, asinine practice and we shouldn't support it.

Excerpt from the article on tech world ethics:

"There have been many claims and debates of the past few days. People are trying to draw absolute boundaries around what is, and is not, ethical. The technical world won’t like this, but that is impossible. Ethics are not absolute. What is considered right one decade can be considered inconceivable in another decade. Just look at the Civil Rights movement and current feminist efforts for women to be treated equally and fairly as lessons in the constantly evolving state of ethics."
2591  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen. on: July 02, 2014, 01:04:14 PM
  • Does everyone feel a bit more "elite" with BTC back over $625?  Smiley
No.

I will feel elite when bitcoin is over 6,250 $
2592  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NewEgg accepting BTC!? on: July 02, 2014, 04:52:54 AM
No it's hype buying.

Technically speaking - the more liquidity in Bitcoin the more the price will decline.  Merchants, when they get their hand on BTC, will dump to get $Fiat to pay their overhead, employees and taxation obligations.  Newegg does $25 billion in revenue but only has like $22 million in net income, so any BTC they get they'll be dumping within minutes.
You're missing the bigger picture here - it's not about liquidity, it's about Bitcoin's market share of all wealth in the world.

Every new business that accepts Bitcoin as a form of payment adds value by adding UTILITY to the currency - when this is public and major FURTHER value is added as more people realize this isn't some fad, and investment continues to increase.
2593  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The real bitcoin killer app is already here on: July 02, 2014, 04:50:02 AM
The traders pay interest on the loans out of their exchange wallet. It is a way to leverage your balance to get a larger return. Any borrowing in any currency requires repayment of a certain percentage over what you borrowed. Have you ever bought a home? A car? Same thing.

I'm well aware of how trading accounts work, and loans in general.  Thats why i find i it odd anyone thinks this is a killer app for Bitcoin.  

I think they are referring to the ability to stockpile coins and have them actually grow the way fiat used to before the monetary system was destroyed. It creates more demand because holding them is even more profitable.
It should be noted that this would not be without risk. In the event of a market crash/spike then the exchange may not be able to liquidate traders' positions at a rate that would allow them to fully repay their margin loans. The lender would have to take a loss if this were to happen.
QFT.

Increased reward is almost always associated with increased level of risk. Remember that. And don't get too greedy.
2594  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: GHASH.IO + DISCUS FISH >>>51% Possible to death bitcoin? on: July 02, 2014, 04:47:29 AM
Gotta love all these constant new accounts with 11 posts, posting apocalyptic mumbo-jumbo FUD.
2595  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Just released Our free 17 page comprehensive Bitcoin report with history&future on: July 02, 2014, 04:38:14 AM
People like you are my worst fear.
2596  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you sometimes think Bitcoin will fail? on: July 02, 2014, 04:34:38 AM
the modern gun enables one person to kill hundreds within minutes.

Unless you can reference a single instance where it has actually happened that a single gunman has killed hundreds within minutes
Normandy, D-day, World War II. Any other questions?
2597  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NewEgg accepting BTC!? on: July 01, 2014, 09:55:04 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4811N22567

Aww, decided to celebrate and get my dog a toy, but apparently you can't use bitcoin on anything.  I can't checkout with bitcoin with the above item.
I'll give you one guess why that might be.

Hint:

2598  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: the useless bitcoin mainstream efforts on: July 01, 2014, 09:52:21 PM
Where we're going... we don't need oil.  Cool
Too true.
2599  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: US Marshals: One Auction Bidder Claimed All 30,000 Silk Road Bitcoins on: July 01, 2014, 09:45:42 PM
Could be the Federal Reserve? Google ? Kim Jong-Un ? Satoshi ? China ? ? ? ?

OMG it was totes Bruce Wayne.
2600  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ashton kutcher talks about bitcoin, again on: July 01, 2014, 08:29:48 PM
This isn't exactly the most ringing endorsement, because by portraying bitcoin as the other side of the "barbell" against blue chip stocks, he's suggesting it's the hyperaggressive high risk portion of the barbell strategy. Probably pretty accurate advice, but the implication is probably not what people invested in bitcoin necessarily want to hear.

talking about bitcoin as a high risk is actually good and sound investment advice
Agreed, because most 'muritards don't have the maturity / patience necessary to reap the reward of a middle to long-term investment. Ours is an instant-gratification get-rich-quick culture.
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