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2581  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Proof that Quickseller is BiPolarBob/PistolPete AND intended to SCAM! on: September 18, 2015, 07:29:21 PM
Whatever you guys say i don't care

Fair enough, that cuts both ways. Fuck off.
2582  Other / Meta / Re: Should people who promote ponzis in their signature be given a negative trust? on: September 18, 2015, 03:50:07 PM
Ponzis are considered as gambling by this community.

Not by me they're not.
You must draw a distinction between the "last one in loses" games that people knowingly play in the "Investor Games" section, and deliberately misleading schemes run by professional thieves masquerading as legit investment opportunities.

A Ponzi scheme involves deceit aimed at swindling money out of investors. Knowingly promoting one deserves red trust.
A Ponzi game is gambling. Why warn someone off if they are happy with the (lack of) rules?
2583  Other / Meta / Re: Should people who promote ponzis in their signature be given a negative trust? on: September 18, 2015, 03:29:43 PM
I have noticed that although promoting a ponzi in the investor based games may be allowed by default trust members as the promotion is limited to people who fairly understand the risks of investing.
But what about accounts that promote it in their signature and essentially promise a fake return to people who may not understand yet how ponzis work?
I have heard about cloudminig's example where dserrano5 was about to be given negative trust for such behavious but was probably forgiven by most people, but should the other people be allowed to promote it?
No.you cant hold members responsible for promoting ponzi or anything which later turned out to be a scam unless there is a solid evidence to prove that the said member was aware that it was a scam

Yes I can.
If I think that someone is deliberately turning a blind eye to compelling circumstantial evidence that the business that they endorse by carrying a signature is a scam, simply so that they can collect money from it, then I will consider giving them negative trust on the basis that anyone that prizes money over ethics is a potential scammer.
2584  Other / Meta / Re: Should people who promote ponzis in their signature be given a negative trust? on: September 18, 2015, 03:06:23 PM
If anyone wanted an example of someone doing the things I have written in OP that is promoting ponzi in their signature here is an example.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=492957

That's a poor example, some twobit semi-game based on "last one in gets nothing". Kids play them they know the rules, they're harmless (as harmless as any gambling).

The Ponzis that you should be concerned about, if your motivation is to stop highly motivated criminals stealing from our naive young noobs (as opposed to just being a busybody) are shit like the one in my signature, the ones that totally maintain that they are legit, deal in millions and destroy lives.
2585  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Cryptocoinbank.eu on: September 18, 2015, 02:32:49 PM
Disturbingly easy to find the RL guy behind this venture, I have asked him to have a chat on the other thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1183754
2586  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptocoinbank.eu is launched on: September 18, 2015, 02:30:45 PM
So, come on then Paul, tell us a bit more, like why should we trust you?


Ninja edit:

also here  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1183742
2587  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Cryptocoinbank.eu on: September 18, 2015, 02:17:25 PM
From
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bitcoin-BTC-Direct-to-your-wallet-contact-us-for-latest-prices-/291543889746

So, I send you fiat and 2 hours later, you send me BTC.....what could possibly go wrong?


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2588  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Cryptocoinbank.eu on: September 18, 2015, 02:09:23 PM

They certainly sell a mean SD Card on E Bay, must be legit.
 Roll Eyes



I'll be having a little sniff around these INTERNATIONAL MEN OF CRYPTOFINANCE, I'm not liking the number of scammers that are sullying the fair name of Great Britain recently  Tongue

A little bit more perspective here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1183754.0

2589  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Cryptocoinbank.eu is launched on: September 18, 2015, 01:53:33 PM
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First Floor, 147-151 Old Milton Road, New Milton, Hampshire. BH25 6DS. England

So, the GLOBAL CRYPTOCURRENCY TRADERS hang out in the flat above the bathroom shop, waiting for the PAYG
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+44 7412 644258
to ring



Must have been an absolute bastard carrying this up the stairs

2590  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Leveraged trading on: September 18, 2015, 09:42:02 AM
Anyone thinking of Bitfinex should be aware of this

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1165622.0
2591  Economy / Reputation / Re: About Vod on: September 18, 2015, 08:54:03 AM

And you can hardly call this a witch hunt; it's more like a beating of an innocent person.


 Huh
Who is the person to whom you refer, and of what are they innocent?

The random notactuallyquickseller guy Vodafone tried to get fired

Edit: that's a pretty cool auto correct,  going to leave it Tongue

The CVS guy?
He's hardly been 'beaten'.

Vod sent a "to whom it may concern" email about his alleged internet use and published the address of a chain store.
I'd think the internet access would be easy for his employers to check, that's if they bother to read Vod's email.

End of story, apart from maybe a couple of stupids sending some spam.
End of story unless, of course, CVS check his internet use and find that he's been on Bitcoin Talk for his entire shift.....

On one hand I had a guy sending me PMs, convincing me he hated QS and had his home and work address.

Dox him  Cheesy

Chin up Vod, what don't kill you makes you stronger, live and learn etc. etc.
2592  Economy / Reputation / Re: About Vod on: September 18, 2015, 08:14:28 AM

And you can hardly call this a witch hunt; it's more like a beating of an innocent person.


 Huh
Who is the person to whom you refer, and of what are they innocent?
2593  Other / Meta / Re: Requesting-Vod be prevented deleting posts Self Modded thread/Removed from DT on: September 17, 2015, 07:53:36 PM

Hi TradeFortress I would like to ask you something important.
When I examined this transaction, I've seen that You've used 3 different addresses to pay 20 BTC.
1: https://blockchain.info/address/1JNZgYxgsrUnwoCGZqSKGqpbUoxewyCxsn
2: https://blockchain.info/address/15bLpPJbAz1ahgFSLMBLCVuoM1y9QYHHuy
3: https://blockchain.info/address/1MDiAC7C91waTzTtkg8UpKqcPej58rn77h

Let's look at the 1st address closer. It got bitcoins from this address: https://blockchain.info/address/12QTQnVtCQpFfaKnXwG1cfDmzJeJbj18zA

And this addresses bitcoins come from "scammer (told it was hacked) hashie.co". "Which are hot wallets of the hashie.co"
Weren't those bitcoins stollen by hackers?

Can you explain this please?

Edit (addition):
Hashie.co scam was hacked in 24 December 2014; https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2qods9/hashieco_was_hacked_or_was_a_scam_all_along/
This address: 12QTQnVtCQpFfaKnXwG1cfDmzJeJbj18zA got bitcoins from hot wallet on the date of 2015-01-26 11:19:12  (Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 26644 bytes)
https://blockchain.info/tx/085efd1c29b57d8b6f0cd063187c77f326777e84b8a6ddcb0915847b7917635e

Then it's used to send bitcoins to TradeFortress...
Isn't that interesting?

Very interesting indeed. Good find. Checks out. Haven't looked into the other addresses.

20 BTC from "TF" to "Quickseller" --> https://blockchain.info/tx/7547d946f9f622692d845bec3c220cbf323ee3750dd21632fce90ec03ba431ed
https://blockchain.info/address/1JNZgYxgsrUnwoCGZqSKGqpbUoxewyCxsn --> https://blockchain.info/address/12QTQnVtCQpFfaKnXwG1cfDmzJeJbj18zA --> https://blockchain.info/address/1CgD88HMPcBSQ3C5ykLEWFiCJpJ1jryBFg (HASHIE ADDRESS) / https://blockchain.info/address/1FGzuz2E6u1kh4h9DcjR4Z2rfJSoGfiiC3 (HASHIE ADDRESS)

http://justpaste.it/hashie













Never mind who is really behind the TF forum account for the moment. Quickseller -- how are you gonna rationalize holding onto these coins?

Funny, I always thought that Quickseller = TF was a more plausible explanation than TF blindly sending Quickseller 20 BTC to carry out a blatantly frivolous lawsuit. Wouldn't that be interesting?

If so, that would be a 100% legit reason to DOX Quickseller.

I have been nonplussed by the free pass that TradeFortress/Hashie have been given here, by supposed backbones of this community.
The answer is, of course, that he/she/it knows where skeletons are buried.
2594  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BigPolarBob Encouraging people to buy trust on: September 17, 2015, 04:51:54 PM
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Re: BigPolarBob Encouraging people to buy trust

Big Polar Bob?
Isn't he some sort of legendary Alaskan bear hunter?

OP
If you want your 15 seconds of BCT witch hunting fame, at least get the names right.
2595  Other / Meta / Re: How i can be included to default trust list? :) on: September 17, 2015, 01:33:59 PM
Hi there  Smiley

Please answer me how i can be added to default trust list (i want to have green +)  Tongue

I need to honestly trade on this forum or what?

Thanks a lot.

Don't bother, it's more trouble than it's worth.
2596  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How does escrow thing works??? Plzz explain me on: September 17, 2015, 01:27:33 PM
There are some Hero/Legendary members here who will accept to be an escrow. Take a look around and choose the one who suits you best.

There is currently some controversy on the forum about escrows, especially escrows who are also traders and see no conflict of interest in representing themselves as an impartial third party, whereas they are, in fact, the person on the other side of the deal to you, but using an alternate forum name.
Reasonable people seem to have no problem with the concept that a third person is, in fact, a third person, but it would be as well for anyone using a forum "escrow" to have the situation clarified in writing regarding their impartiality, before agreeing to anything or parting with any goods or coin.

For more reading on this subject search "Quickseller".
2597  Economy / Reputation / Re: About Vod on: September 17, 2015, 11:07:23 AM
I don't think Vod would go to that extent but anyways,

He already has.

He says he has.

He was obviously extremely pissed at what he saw was two big scammers colluding against him, but.....
2598  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Genesis-mining.com || World's leading hashpower provider! on: September 17, 2015, 10:13:43 AM
I would have liked the "Gift" if:

- 0.0012 USD per Gh/s per day for purchases starting from September 16th

Was

- 0.0012 USD per Gh/s per day for all existing contracts

That would be nice.

´

Yeh, would be nice, I agree but would be very costly to do that.

The type of mining hardware and its power efficiency in each farm and the electricity costs in each farm will no doubt vary so if they have a new farm with much lower costs and better hardware efficiency then they can really only pass those costs along to hashpower that will be mining in that new farm, hence the new lower maintenance fees, and not to all their other farms as they all have their own individual costs.


I don't agree with that logic.
Miners can be looked at like manufacturing companies, and investors as just that, investors in a manufacturing company.
To say that new capital provided to the total investment pool should be rewarded differently to earlier capital is absurd: simply because it went on purchasing more efficient machinery than previously?
Imo, all hash power investment should be averaged out and rewarded appropriately. If the operating cost of the company decreases and profitability increases, all investors should benefit similarly. Just like in the Real World.
You behave like a ponzi, you get treated like a ponzi: look at Cloudmining.Website, they pay their new 'investors' multiples of that which they pay their longer term ones and quite rightly people are suspicious of them.
2599  Other / Meta / Re: QS joins Tradefortress in the realm of the completely discredted, Wardrick next? on: September 16, 2015, 09:18:03 PM
... I trust the 'person' behind the forum account not the account (itself). ...

Playing Devil's advocate: Let's say you had a good trade with Quickseller.
You leave Quickseller a positive trust rating, but no ratings to any of his long list of alts (which, being controlled by the same person, would all deserve identical trust, according to your "'person' behind the forum account" stance).
Tomatocage is on the default trust, though (most of) his alts, presumably, are not.
Correct?
flawless_victory.gif strawman gibberish.txt

FTFY.

You're really trying too hard now.
2600  Other / Meta / Re: Theymos: "I know how moderation affects people." (Bitcoin censorship) on: September 16, 2015, 07:42:26 PM
People downvoted theymos' comment. Here it is...

This subbreddit is rather engaging in self censorship.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3l36ck/guess_this_will_be_censored_but_theymos_opens_up/cv2xiui?context=3

That subbreddit was engaging in lots of things beginning with self, with the top comment (+114)

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Censorship in any form is counter productive in a free market

Off topic:
Congrats BadBear, Reddit needs you.
 Cheesy
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