Whatever you guys say i don't care
Fair enough, that cuts both ways. Fuck off.
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Ponzis are considered as gambling by this community.
Not by me they're not. You must draw a distinction between the "last one in loses" games that people knowingly play in the "Investor Games" section, and deliberately misleading schemes run by professional thieves masquerading as legit investment opportunities. A Ponzi scheme involves deceit aimed at swindling money out of investors. Knowingly promoting one deserves red trust. A Ponzi game is gambling. Why warn someone off if they are happy with the (lack of) rules?
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I have noticed that although promoting a ponzi in the investor based games may be allowed by default trust members as the promotion is limited to people who fairly understand the risks of investing. But what about accounts that promote it in their signature and essentially promise a fake return to people who may not understand yet how ponzis work? I have heard about cloudminig's example where dserrano5 was about to be given negative trust for such behavious but was probably forgiven by most people, but should the other people be allowed to promote it?
No.you cant hold members responsible for promoting ponzi or anything which later turned out to be a scam unless there is a solid evidence to prove that the said member was aware that it was a scam Yes I can. If I think that someone is deliberately turning a blind eye to compelling circumstantial evidence that the business that they endorse by carrying a signature is a scam, simply so that they can collect money from it, then I will consider giving them negative trust on the basis that anyone that prizes money over ethics is a potential scammer.
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That's a poor example, some twobit semi-game based on "last one in gets nothing". Kids play them they know the rules, they're harmless (as harmless as any gambling). The Ponzis that you should be concerned about, if your motivation is to stop highly motivated criminals stealing from our naive young noobs (as opposed to just being a busybody) are shit like the one in my signature, the ones that totally maintain that they are legit, deal in millions and destroy lives.
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They certainly sell a mean SD Card on E Bay, must be legit. I'll be having a little sniff around these INTERNATIONAL MEN OF CRYPTOFINANCE, I'm not liking the number of scammers that are sullying the fair name of Great Britain recently A little bit more perspective here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1183754.0
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First Floor, 147-151 Old Milton Road, New Milton, Hampshire. BH25 6DS. England So, the GLOBAL CRYPTOCURRENCY TRADERS hang out in the flat above the bathroom shop, waiting for the PAYG +44 7412 644258 to ring Must have been an absolute bastard carrying this up the stairs
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And you can hardly call this a witch hunt; it's more like a beating of an innocent person.
Who is the person to whom you refer, and of what are they innocent? The random notactuallyquickseller guy Vodafone tried to get fired Edit: that's a pretty cool auto correct, going to leave it The CVS guy? He's hardly been 'beaten'. Vod sent a "to whom it may concern" email about his alleged internet use and published the address of a chain store. I'd think the internet access would be easy for his employers to check, that's if they bother to read Vod's email. End of story, apart from maybe a couple of stupids sending some spam. End of story unless, of course, CVS check his internet use and find that he's been on Bitcoin Talk for his entire shift..... On one hand I had a guy sending me PMs, convincing me he hated QS and had his home and work address.
Dox him Chin up Vod, what don't kill you makes you stronger, live and learn etc. etc.
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And you can hardly call this a witch hunt; it's more like a beating of an innocent person.
Who is the person to whom you refer, and of what are they innocent?
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I have been nonplussed by the free pass that TradeFortress/Hashie have been given here, by supposed backbones of this community. The answer is, of course, that he/she/it knows where skeletons are buried.
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Re: BigPolarBob Encouraging people to buy trust Big Polar Bob? Isn't he some sort of legendary Alaskan bear hunter? OP If you want your 15 seconds of BCT witch hunting fame, at least get the names right.
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Hi there Please answer me how i can be added to default trust list (i want to have green +) I need to honestly trade on this forum or what? Thanks a lot. Don't bother, it's more trouble than it's worth.
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There are some Hero/Legendary members here who will accept to be an escrow. Take a look around and choose the one who suits you best.
There is currently some controversy on the forum about escrows, especially escrows who are also traders and see no conflict of interest in representing themselves as an impartial third party, whereas they are, in fact, the person on the other side of the deal to you, but using an alternate forum name. Reasonable people seem to have no problem with the concept that a third person is, in fact, a third person, but it would be as well for anyone using a forum "escrow" to have the situation clarified in writing regarding their impartiality, before agreeing to anything or parting with any goods or coin. For more reading on this subject search "Quickseller".
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I don't think Vod would go to that extent but anyways,
He already has. He says he has. He was obviously extremely pissed at what he saw was two big scammers colluding against him, but.....
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I would have liked the "Gift" if:
- 0.0012 USD per Gh/s per day for purchases starting from September 16th
Was
- 0.0012 USD per Gh/s per day for all existing contracts
That would be nice.
´ Yeh, would be nice, I agree but would be very costly to do that. The type of mining hardware and its power efficiency in each farm and the electricity costs in each farm will no doubt vary so if they have a new farm with much lower costs and better hardware efficiency then they can really only pass those costs along to hashpower that will be mining in that new farm, hence the new lower maintenance fees, and not to all their other farms as they all have their own individual costs. I don't agree with that logic. Miners can be looked at like manufacturing companies, and investors as just that, investors in a manufacturing company. To say that new capital provided to the total investment pool should be rewarded differently to earlier capital is absurd: simply because it went on purchasing more efficient machinery than previously? Imo, all hash power investment should be averaged out and rewarded appropriately. If the operating cost of the company decreases and profitability increases, all investors should benefit similarly. Just like in the Real World. You behave like a ponzi, you get treated like a ponzi: look at Cloudmining.Website, they pay their new 'investors' multiples of that which they pay their longer term ones and quite rightly people are suspicious of them.
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... I trust the 'person' behind the forum account not the account (itself). ...
Playing Devil's advocate: Let's say you had a good trade with Quickseller. You leave Quickseller a positive trust rating, but no ratings to any of his long list of alts (which, being controlled by the same person, would all deserve identical trust, according to your "'person' behind the forum account" stance). Tomatocage is on the default trust, though (most of) his alts, presumably, are not. Correct? flawless_victory.gif strawman gibberish.txt FTFY. You're really trying too hard now.
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That subbreddit was engaging in lots of things beginning with self, with the top comment (+114) Censorship in any form is counter productive in a free market Off topic: Congrats BadBear, Reddit needs you.
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