Hello Friends, We are working with a copywriter to help with an announcement on http://www.prnewswire.com/ which anticipates the movement into the #1 position at http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_list.php?s=. Many publications will have the opportunity to pick up the wire for their own use in either local or national readership markets. Another announcement will be placed after we have reached the #1 spot. Congrats to all of us, as EVGA has been extremely formidable competition for a long time. Still, do consider buying their graphics cards for your folding, along with other manufacturers'. You also managed to tick off quite a few folks when you sent out "join Team Curecoin" emails to a bunch of EVGA team members. The more polite comments were "why are they being RUDE and trying to POACH our team members" and went downhill from there. |
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Wrong. That recent pattern actually happens for most of alts, not only FLDC
And what part of FLDC losing 60+% of value is "good"? 60% vs BTC - which has gone up a bit more than that over the last 35ish days. In terms of $, it's been fairly close to flat. CURE on the other hand has been close to flat vs BTC since a couple weeks after the Polo "no bloody reason" delisting. |
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I mine ltc cheap and trade for btc. I mine x11 cheap and trade for btc. I have No incentive to mine btc at a high price. Neither do I. What about not mining, but buying those altcoins instead of buying equipment for their mining? Because if you set it up right, positive income is a LOT more certain from mining than from the very high risk of speculating. Don't take the last 5 months as "the norm", you have to look at more like the last 5 YEARS and the roller coaster pretty much all cryptocoins have been on. |
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Scam.
NOBODY has 10nm in production yet (Intel is closest, but they don't farm out their fab capacity to no-name miner companies when they sell capacity AT ALL).
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You need some serious NVidia hardware to even think about Foldingcoin and making any money.
For perspective - a NVidia GTX 1070 will fold very rough ballpark 600K PPD - this is good for somewhat less than 200 FLDC per day right now, and that has been DROPPING hard as more folks get into it.
The limited figures I've seen on the Vega FE puts it into the same ballpark as the GTX 1070 - at about double the power consumption and a TON more expen$ive.
The Vega 64 should be very close to the FE - but again, double the power consumption and quite a bit higher price.
The GTX 1080 and GTX 1080ti are faster folders, but IME not quite in line with their cost. Close though at the total system cost level.
GTX 1060 and any AMD other than the VEGA aren't worth looking at, too low of performance.
GTX 980 and 980ti were good performers as well, but again much higher power consumption. Might be worth considering if you can get one VERY cheap, and definitly worth considering if you already have one.
Don't try using a "mining" type rig with a low end CPU on folding.
I had a rig with 2 x 1080ti and a Pentium G4600 dual core - and the CPU was LIMITING the peformance of the pair of GPUs badly.
I verified that when I moved one of the 1080ti cards to a 3-card machine with a FX 8320E OCTOcore CPU and watched the PPD go up almost 50% on some projects (and about 20% overall).
Don't even think about using 1-lane risers (like the VERY COMMON USB-type ones most mining riser rigs use) - it's been tested that PCI-E 2.0 on an 8-lane connection measurably impacts PPD (almost 10% as I recall) vs a 16-lane PCI-E 2.0 connection, and a 4-lane connection impacted by somewhat OVER another 10%.
PCI-E 3.0 8-lane seems to be enough for most GPUs to achieve full PPD - for now....
Figure AT LEAST one fairly high end CPU core per GPU even for the 1070 and 1080, and more like 1.5 per 1080ti (and DO NOT COUNT Hyperthreaded Cores, they don't help worth SQUAT).
It's entirely possible to be profitable working Foldingcoin, but if you're "all about the profits" there is usually other stuff you can mine that will make you more on a given card.
Final point - FoldingCoin only pays out once per month, USUALLY during the first week of the month.
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Hmmm - a miner that can mine ETH (GPU), Scrypt and SHA256 (only 2 ASIC that were ever created to do both, and those were NOT efficient SHA256 miners by the time they showed up), and let's not forget the crazy-high hashrates.
Also, that H4U is a standard 4u rackmount case, I've SEEN that specific case design before.
Then there is the capper - a claim that they're manufacturing on a 10nm process when INTEL (the leader at that node) hasn't brought it into production yet.
I smell - DEFINITE SCAM.
UFOMiners is a scam site that's already been brought up a few times.
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It seems to be mostly about fixing the "DAG epoch big hashrate drop" in ETH mining.
No idea at this point if it is more efficient on anything else, and with no LINUX version I have no way to test it (I'm NOT going to risk my gaming machine to a new BETA driver that even AMD is stating "no support or future fixes" for).
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Not a new concept, reference GAME.
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I don't think the hashrate will explode so much. I suppose the machines which are now being sold are already mining for Bitmain ... and will be mining until October. Units will just change their location. Bitmain guys are not stupid.
Not likely - Bitmain doesn't usually mine with their units more than a few days before they ship them, when the units are selling like hotcakes (HashNest units excepted). The current jump in total network hashrate for X11 is easily explained by A FEW of the IBeLink DM11G units being shipped and installed, plus the probable final shipments of the Baikal giant and cube models. |
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A very FEW of those algos are used by cryptocoins - but those (like SHA256 and Scrypt) are algos that have ASIC available, so NOT viable to try to mine them on GPUs.
For comparison, current SHA256 ASIC are measured in GIGAhash/sec, not MEGAhash - and all Litecoin ASIC miners except the early Gridseed Orbs are measured in MEGAhash/sec not Kilohash/sec
The LARGE MAJORITY of those algos have nothing to do with cryptocoin mining at all (MD anything, DES, SHA other than 256, etc).
I'm NOT sure on Whirlpool offhand, I think that might be one of the components of X11?
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The tradeoff even from "legit" companies reselling Bitmain products is that you tend to pay a LOT more for them.
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The 2GB limit is an ETH specific thing.
Any GTX 750ti should be able to mine XMR(Monero) successfully.
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If you want something that will actually make money, you need VERY low electric cost and you're going to have to put up with the import fees.
The only current "small USB miner" that MIGHT be profitable is the Futurebit Moonlander (Scrypt, using the Alcheminer ASIC).
Sidehack should have a "pod" and or a "stick" miner out sometime using BitFury ASIC that should be profitable, but he's not gotten around to that yet.
Return in 5 months is NOT GOING TO HAPPEN with a small miner.
PERIOD.
Their cost per hash is a LOT higher than the big miners, always has been always will be.
Most of the BIG miners (and ALL of the SHA256 based ones) are looking at 10+ month ROI achievement, unless Bitcoin price keeps jumping fast.
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My group's A4 and L3+ Scrypt farm however is a different story.... good profitability still in LTC and some hot Scrypt coins. Hopefully Bitmain doesn't ship anymore L3+s and focus on the D3 shipping in November but I think they got the X11 game wrong this time.
It's only been a couple weeks since the last L3+ batch went on sale - they seem to be averaging about one batch of those a month. Scrypt has been a happy place the last 3-4 months - my A2 farm has almost paid for itself in that timeframe (and it was ALREADY PAID FOR in full last year, after factoring in electric costs etc.). I was getting close to shutting them down around Feb as they were getting very marginal even at my very cheap electric cost - then WHAM Litecoin price goes crazy and the profitability went even more crazy.... |
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There is good old reliable fallback options such as zec and skien. These have been consistently paying 30-50% more than ETH.
For nvidia cards certainly. Depends - for the 1070 and 1060, ETH and ZEC (and Skein or Groestl on the 1070) have generally been about the same profitability. 1080 and 1080ti being poor ETH miners do lots better on ZEC Skein and Groestl. |
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@BenRickert
Lol, you're a bit of a twat. There are more than a dozen coins to mine on x11. Dash is a much better performer than LTC has ever been.
You're an ignorant fool. When has Scrypt mining suffered anywhere NEAR this level of hashing assault to a very meager network. When the A2 was released - though it had already been taking SOME hit from the Gridseed 3355 based stuff by then. The L3+ is also putting a serious jump on diff but so far only 2-3x (plus the A4 has put SOME in as well). 10x in a 3-4- month period, not since the first GPU miners showed up. |
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Is it just me or are there a LOT more batches going out than the L3+ had?
A lot more batches but the batches seem to be mostly small. |
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I thought its drop another hundred buck but its didnt
Maybe next batch they'll drop another $51 and sell it for $1399 I am waiting for next type, D3+ maybe for double hash We all are mate I'm not. Who is this "we" you speak of? 8-P |
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