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2581  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ron Paul: Who's Opposing The Socialists Attack on Capitalism? on: February 09, 2019, 11:09:33 AM
in my oppinion everyone that works for money in a capitalist society ends up as a loser.
As opposed to working for nothing in a socialist economy?

If you are sick, and get in the line and wait for care, you get a bandaid.
If you are lucky... More often than not, when its your turn after 3hrs+ of waiting in line, the bandaids are gone. "Try maybe next week, or try walking some miles to the next health center, they might have some there..." Then at the next center: "The bandaids were stolen, try elsewhere". At another one: "we don't have electricity, center is closed.", etc, etc, etc.

nope in socialist societies you also work for money. but socialist societies focus on infrastructure investments, in capitalist societies when no one is opposing it, the capitalists usually just centre the economy on themselves the problem with capitalism is that it is just an attention hack with a bunch of money printers taking power and then trying to controll the financial system and centre it on themselves. like we can see with bitcoin (lambos, moon corrupt cryptocurrency index etc.).
2582  Local / Off-Topic (Deutsch) / Re: politische umgebung entwickelt sich zunehmend positiv für cryptowährungen on: February 09, 2019, 10:43:31 AM
200 millionen € veruntreuung durch die verteidigungsministerin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3uKMjzMzic
2583  Economy / Speculation / Re: new bullish run on: February 09, 2019, 08:22:18 AM
jes the whales buy back a bit of their own crap with their millions, hopping to attrack the idiotic hoping idiots. back to the scam the market is,

they are now also actively filtering the market's information for so called "toxic" oppinions, thats not how freedom of speech looks like  Roll Eyes
2584  Local / Suche / Re: Suche Mitstreiter für neues MAMMUT-Projekt on: February 09, 2019, 06:16:50 AM
Sachliche Frage(n) werden [...] beantwortet.


du solltest besser dich existenten projekten anschließen.

z.b. neuen index.

ist erfolgswahrscheinlicher als zu versuchen einen leeren "coin" in ein bereits existierendes korruptes system sich selbst bedinendes system zu etablieren.

ich denke das die etablierung neuer systeme/indexe demnächst die norm wird.

kollabiert indien z.b. gehen die naxaliten an die macht mit ihrem "coin und coins" usw.

staaten sind eigentlich in der regel internalisierte geschlossene währungsindexsysteme.

gruß
2585  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: tut das universum den bitcoincentristen eine geheime botschaft vermitteln? on: February 08, 2019, 08:43:43 PM
Ich frage mich Tag für Tag was das für ein Mensch ist der einfach -sehr wahrscheinlich sogar bewusst- blödsinn vonsich gibt und einfach alle damit nervt.

2013 haben die Psychologen Buckels, Trapnell und Paulhus von der University of Manitoba in Winnipeg (Kanada) die Persönlichkeit von sogenannten Internet-Trollen untersucht. Bei einer Befragung von 418 Personen, die regelmäßig eine Seite ansurften, welche zugleich die Möglichkeit bot, über Kommentare mit anderen zu kommunizieren, konnten 5,6 Prozent von ihnen als Trolle identifiziert werden und durchliefen anschließend weitere Persönlichkeitstests. Bei diesen entdeckten die Wissenschaftler dann hauptsächlich Alltagssadismus, aber auch weitere Merkmale der sogenannten Dunklen Tetrade; für Psychologen ein bestimmtes Persönlichkeits­profil, das sich aus verschiedenen sozial unerwünschten Eigenschaften zusammensetzt (Erweiterung der Dunklen Triade zu einer Tetrade aus vier negativen Eigenschaften). Besonders häufig wurde bislang ein derartiges Profil bei Menschen gefunden, die als Jugendliche, aber auch als Erwachsene, andere schikanieren. Dazu gehören außer dem Sadismus der Narzissmus, der Machiavellismus und die Psychopathie.

zur aufklärung:

ihr seit selber auch trolle, halt für andere, ihr seit zu dämlich und zu ignorant das festzustellen oder zuzugeben

erkennt ihr euch hier selber?



das ist auch trollen. trollen gegen die federal reserve

gibt auch leute die mögen euch nicht. und haben eine agenda gegen eure agenda.

(weltweit die natur mit rechenzentren zupflastern, und dann ein korruptes cryptoindex und kommunikationszentrum erschaffen)

gibt auch menschen für die ist der untergang bitcoins aus ihrer umwelt eine befreiung.

informationssphären sind in wircklichkeit asymetrisch.
2586  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: tut das universum den bitcoincentristen eine geheime botschaft vermitteln? on: February 08, 2019, 07:31:05 PM
Ich frage mich Tag für Tag was das für ein Mensch ist der einfach -sehr wahrscheinlich sogar bewusst- blödsinn vonsich gibt und einfach alle damit nervt. Für mich gibt es da nur drei Optionen:

Option 1: King ist Millionär und amüsiert sich hier während er tagtäglich sein Geld für unnötige Sachen ausgibt

Option 2: King hat extremst viel Geld verzockt und ist in einer sehr langen depressiven Phase aus der er nicht rauskommt und versucht eben seine Wut hier loszuwerden

Option 3: Unzufrieden mit der Lebenssituation allgemein, nörgelt ständig und immer vor sich hin..

Bei Option 2 & 3 würde ich wirklich und tatsächlich gutwillig nahe legen, dass sich die Person an einen Therapeuten wendet. Falls Option 1 zutrifft würde ich mich über eine PN freuen, ich behalte das Geheimnis auch für mich  Grin

lese das nicht ganz durch aber da du ratest:

ich habe 0 euro mit bitcoin und crypto verloren, habe nur gewinne gemacht, mit waves halt aber ich habe auch 0 investiert hab meine start invesition von nem investor mit dem ich mal wegen bitcoin mining zusammengearbeitet hab bekommen.

ich halte die idee den ganzen planeten mit rechenzentren zuzupflastern (alle um die wette, wer das meiste startkapital hat bleibt am reichsten)

für ziemlich hirnverbrannt. (es ändert sowiso nichts, die reichen bleiben am reichsten, sie müssen sich halt nen kompetenten und ehrlichen inder finden der hart arbeiten will)

bitcoin hat einen guten teil das ist die dezentralisierungsbewegung (meiner ansicht nach), der pow teil ist ein alptraum für jeden human denkenden menschen.

ich denke eher das bitcoin mal als der umgeschubste erste dominostein in die geschichte eingehen wird der die 300 jährige geschichte des westlichen bankenkartels besigeln wird.

hat auch ein berühmter wirtschafts nobelpreisträger mal gesagt. ist mir ganz recht so.

da gibts noch ein weiteres geheimnis das mir bewusst ist. dieses kann ich euch aber nicht verraten da ist eine natürliche blockade für euch das jemals zu verstehen.

ihr denkt ja nur weltlich anhand verifizierter verarbeiteter informationen, das ist eine große einschränkung.

eine kleinen hint: der cryptomarkt wird sowohl geistlich auch finanziell extrem viele wracks erschaffen. dieser markt kann und wird viele geistig zermürben. nehmt ruhig die sogennanten "experten ernst" Roll Eyes
2587  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ron Paul: Who's Opposing The Socialists Attack on Capitalism? on: February 08, 2019, 07:19:53 PM
Why are young people being enticed by the philosophy of something for nothing? Why aren't Republicans doing so well with them?

I find it can be easily broken down like this...

One party thinks it’s about what you can do for your country. The other party thinks it’s about what your country can do for you.

I’d explain which is which but it’s clearly obvious to anyone, so that isn’t necessary.

something for nothing?

that must be the banksters philosphy because the money they printed is worth almost nothing
2588  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism vs. Socialism - Make your argument here. on: February 08, 2019, 07:16:23 PM
i am actually fine with both, socialism and capitalism,

in socialism there is also capitalism, but a social one, instead of private bankers like in the usa that privately enrich themselves in socialism there are directorates, that act as capitalists in the economy. they are in general richer than the average population, and the population has to trust them.

the usa has only a successful capitalism, because of successful psychological tricks, global domination, keeping the world to still use the us dollar.

the usa has a very ineffective economy.



regards
2589  Economy / Speculation / Re: new bullish run on: February 08, 2019, 07:07:26 PM
right now we are having a bull run in the crypto market. Let's hope it won't be of short duration.

P.S Buy at your own risk

could also be just a manipulation by some bitcoin whales/holders.
2590  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Joe Rogan and twitter CEO Jack Dorsey in trouble for bitcoin fraud? on: February 08, 2019, 05:49:12 PM
Jack dorsey who owns Cash App caught promoting bitcoin without revealing to viewers the partnership between the joe rogan podcast and jack dorsey's Cash App. Cash app is a smartphone app that can be used to transfer bitcoin from user to user.

Source:

https://news.coinpath.io/the-dark-side-of-jack-dorseys-bitcoin-push-on-joe-rogan/

as soon as egalitarian ideals, and cryptocurrency start investing the american legal system, only the rich will be able to pay lawyers to write 500 pages of arguments to free themselves and it will drain their wealth massively

i expect the western societies especially the american one basically to fracture into countless pieces
2591  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ron Paul: Who's Opposing The Socialists Attack on Capitalism? on: February 08, 2019, 03:42:45 PM

there is no such thing as a free market. never was, us capitalism was limited by perfectionism, christanity/judaism, and racism. if it would have been free america as a nation would have never existed. everyone would have created his own money
When you lie about the market not being free, its to justify your meddling. This is where the destruction starts. What you don't explain upfront, is that socialism needs to impose and coerce your ideas into others. It is about forcing YOUR thinking into others. In a free society wealth can be redistributed by choice (ie. charity, sponsor, patronage), under socialism, you are ORDERED to surrender your wealth to the State or else...) And sure enough, all wealth is quickly gone, and the hyper giant Socialist state goes bankrupt. But because money is a "capitalist lie", and "inflation does not exist", we add zeroes to the State bank accounts and everything should fix itself... NOT.

The only reason you don't oppose socialism is because you haven't lived in it, period. Leave you life (and money) behind and move to Cuba or North Korea some years and see if you like it. Hey, at least you don't need to pay for healthcare, right? Good, because you might need it soon...

nope you are wrong,

you misundertand how capitalism works if its unchallenged, its basically a big attentionhack like bitcoin, that is being used to:

forcing YOUR thinking into others

yes capitalists also are forcing their thinking into others, not just socialists, they say if you take this coin its valuable, but you have to do for me something.

us capitalism without foreign imperatives/socialism through kongress, banking system and the populations behavior is just a big scam. they think they just print money and pay to those people that want to work something.

it will reveal itself this way. i dont have any doubts about it.

thats why your beloved bitcoin is in a bear market the fraud of attentionhack printing money and giving it to workers, is basically extemely demotivating for everyone that works.

those that work for money are usually the idiots of the capitalists, since money creates a lot of asymetry.

in fact, in socialist societies there are also capitalists, that print money, and let others work for it. so you cant really say that.

in my oppinion everyone that works for money in a capitalist society ends up as a loser.
2592  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: another bearish sign? CCN evolves towards a standard stock market website on: February 08, 2019, 11:31:21 AM
That garbage website is  evolving towards a softcore porn tabloid

Whenever I see is in the news section or I read something that is quoting them I start to doubt that more than 10% of the story is true. Just like all websites, they are desperate for traffic and clicks, they invent stories, they use clickbait titles, they are trying to pack as much useless information on the front page to make you click something and stay longer on their website.

If it is a bearish sign, it's for the media that is focused on cryptos alone and they are faced with less and less stories and a hundred wannabe news sites popping every month.




cryptomedia didnt had it easy anyway,

ccn was one of the better ones among the many
2593  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you think about crypto startups for children??? on: February 08, 2019, 09:45:13 AM
you have to distinguish between

"cryptostartups targeting children"

and

"cryptostartups run by children"
2594  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: another bearish sign? CCN evolves towards a standard stock market website on: February 08, 2019, 09:35:14 AM
Eh, they're probably just trying to diversify. They've already built up a brand (lol) and it seems like they have a lot of viewership that also happen to be interested in financial markets. This would be a smart move even if Bitcoin were doing great. But yeah, the crypto space has been really boring lately so it's also entirely possible that reduced traffic has forced them into transitioning earlier than intended. Still not a bearish sign though I'd say.

The Bitcointalk one is probably more related to the increasing scarcity of signature campaigns and the general realization that bounties are shit. It could also be because there's not a lot to talk about anymore lol.

"just diversify"

you dont diversify if you still believe into something.

thats a focus shift away from it.

they lost believing in bitcoin, where is the bitcoin propaganda agents from this forum?

go talk to ccn media personel or worse, go talk to their children.

if the media outlet drop you token propaganda its a sign its going to end badly.

they 100% did heuristics on the bitcoin trash and followed with negative results.

regards
2595  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Africa isn't poor - Africa is being raped. on: February 08, 2019, 09:21:53 AM
Unfortunately, almost everyone there does not have enough ability to manage these things.

well there is a difference between having ressources in the ground and

having them processed into consumabel products

it's a lot easier said than done when it comes to establishing a country that can hold itself up.

the African as we have today is a continent with confused leaders and blind followers

This is why Africa is poor. 



The only way you are ever going to be able to do anything about it is to take the facts into consideration and plan accordingly instead of trying to blame it on everything and everyone else..

i definately dont share, this oppinion africans can also be trained to solve IQ score tests to score them as good as asians or westerners

thank god i was able to free myself from racist upbringing in school.
2596  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism and the exploitation of labor on: February 08, 2019, 09:16:21 AM
If you subscribe to capitalism, it seems as though you would subscribe to one of these philosophies towards labor

A. People are paid wages according to the “fair” market value of their skill and the amount of value they add
B. People do not “deserve” fair wages because no one is forcing them to accept a job for an “unfair” wage.


A. Absent any manipulation in a free market, people are paid economically competitive prices according to supply vs demand.
B. Under a free market people would compete for wages. They deserve or are entitled to nothing other than fair competition, what value they can provide in exchange for what compensation they are willing to settle for..

If you subscribe to A, then you run into issues with the variable cost of labor.  Producing a Chevy Blazer, for example, requires the same labor in the US as it does in Mexico. Therefore, it also requires the same amount of skill.  Workers in each country add the exact same value to the operation.

Neither the Mexican market nor the American market are completely free markets.

Also, just because the labor of putting cars together is happening the same in the USA and Mexico that does not mean that the technological development effort has been the same from the 2 countries.

GM workers make $2 an hour in Mexico while they make around ten times more in the US.  Why are Americans paid ten times more for the same exact work producing the same exact vehicle?  I have heard claims that people are paid more when their jobs involve more skill, more risk, or more difficulty, but none of those are true here.  

The American economy is much better and the markets are not completely free..

Well it would also be easy to think that the Mexican’s deserve less because everything costs less in Mexico but GM actually turns around and sells the cars to Mexicans at the full American price without subtracting 80% from the labor costs.  

In a free market a company should be able to charge whatever they want, whatever they think/bet will be competitive.


If you subscribe to B, you don’t believe the same work deserves the same pay to begin with and you think people have a choice, then you would seemingly be suggesting the Mexicans simply walk across the border and get the same job paying ten times more.  Well the Mexicans aren’t free to walk across the border and get the same job.  They are forced to work on their side of the border.  This is how capitalism uses borders to exploit labor.   How can you have a free market if labor cannot freely move?

Mexicans absolutely are not free to walk across the border due to our unfree market welfare state.
If their was no welfare state they would be free to come compete but would be allowed to absolutely fail if they cannot compete, or work for a very low wage.

Many people would also say “GM assumes all of the risk and is therefore entitled to run the company however they see fit.  If the cars don’t sell, they are stuck with the losses” but even that isn’t true.

Quote
December 19, 2008: President Bush approved a bailout plan and gave General Motors and Chrysler $13.4 billion in financing from TARP (Troubled Assets Relief Program) funds, as well as $4 billion to be "withdrawn later".
So we’re talking about socialized risk but no one socializes GM profits going forward.    How is GM assuming any risk when the government considers them "too big to fail"? The high paid executives not only assume no risk of failure, but seemingly get high payouts regardless of how negatively their incompetencies affect the work force and economy overall.  

 3 months later…

Quote
Rick Wagoner will leave his post as CEO of bailed-out General Motors with a $20 million retirement package, the company's financial filings show.
Under Wagoner's leadership, GM lost tens of billions of dollars, took billions in taxpayer-financed aid, and cut tens of thousands of jobs, including announced plans to cut 47,000 employees by the end of 2009.
I thought executives were paid for their skills and unique ability to "make the company go".  I thought they were paid more because they assumed all the risk.  Neither are true in this case.  The opposite is true.  Workers assumed all of the risk and the CEO took home all of the pay.  The public bailed the company out in order to keep the jobs which are now being shipped to Mexico.  

Problems caused by the welfare state which is equal to an unfree market..
In a free market GM would be allowed to fail if it couldn't compete..

In a completely free market their would be no welfare so no reason to restrict mexicans from coming to work.
In a completely free market their would be no minimum wage law.
In a completely free market their would be no welfare government bailouts for companies or people.

The reason their are so many differences across the US/Mexico boarder is neither market is free.
Absolute free market capitalism would solve all of these problems.

then stop defining markets and nations then, so it will become the market dictated by something else.
2597  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump condemns socialism in SOTU on: February 08, 2019, 08:47:33 AM
Tonight in Trump's State of the Union address, he condemned socialism and said "America will never be a socialist country". He also condemned the dictator currently in power (although not recognized as the legit president) who has used violence, killings, and frivolous criminal charges to stifle dissent in his country.

Socialists Bernie Sanders and Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez looked very uncomfortable as this condemnation received bipartisan applause.   

Socialism in Venezuela has changed what used to be one of the wealthiest countries in South America into one of the poorest.

Even Nancy Pelosi applauded when Trump issued this condemnation.

he might face the consequences, of countless "coiner" empires fighting each other on american soil like it was the case among the native americans
2598  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: another bearish sign? CCN evolves towards a standard stock market website on: February 08, 2019, 05:42:40 AM
Seriously OP, what does a interface change on CCN have to do with activity on Bitcointalk? Also, how many forums gets 1 422 459.03 average page views per day?  

You are looking for connections and problems that does not exist, so you make up your own. Please stop with all the FUD, we <Bitcoin community> are not going to stop talking and we do not care about CNN or any other competing platform.  Grin

The revolution has just started, watch this space.  Cool

these people are doing their opportunistic heuristics, when they shift away from crypto they see opportunities now elsewhere
2599  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ron Paul: Who's Opposing The Socialists Attack on Capitalism? on: February 07, 2019, 08:20:39 PM
In the end, the free market wins. Socialism always fails, always had, always will.

well jes

but the problem in the usa is that businesses cant get stable contracts because the banks can't lend money

if the banks are to complicated and dont lend, or can't lend to anyone except the rich it can severely damage the economy of a freedom egalitarian goal seeking society like the united states.

whats the point living in the united states if you there are only the money earning cattle of the rich feudal elite?
2600  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / another bearish sign? CCN evolves towards a standard stock market website on: February 07, 2019, 05:53:16 PM
Check out the new design of CCN, looks like a standard stock website. now with gold and stock prices, or currency exchange prices.

https://www.ccn.com/one-trader-is-forecasting-bitcoin-price-to-sink-near-2000-before-the-bulls-take-over

i doubt however that the decentralisation movement will end.

Bitcointalk also lost almost 1 million viewers last month, again, continueing a long term trend

https://www.similarweb.com/website/bitcointalk.org#overview
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