I've found that many westerners is really out of context about reasons of this war and other things related to slav/russian/ukrainian culture. So, they trying to explain things in a wrong way. Look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo6w5R6Uo8Y Author trying to tell us that the main reason of War is the "fight over resources". This is of course total bullshit. Russia has the biggestamount of resources in the world. It would never start a full scale war with danger of getting into high sanction pressure ( i need to remind you that for russians, and even dwarf putin it was not obvious, would the West implement strong sanctions or not) just because of "resouces". So I will create this topic so that any people from other countries could better understand the main background, causes and goals of russian invasion to Ukraine. If i will find some interesting thread or some cultural pattern not obvious to you, i will share it here and translate if necessary ( because a huge amount of interesting staff are in russian only). Maybe it will look a little "out of context", but anyway, it's worth it. List of good authors i recommend to you (and who are deeply in slav culture by themselves) (i will expand it soon) The First One is: Kamil Galeev. Writting in english, a lot of interesting longreads, native tatar from Tatarstan (region in russia). His most interesting (and important for westerner, for better understanding) threads which shows the main reason of this war: 1. War of memes: why Z-war won't end with peace ( johhnyUA: I consider this thread as the most important in understanding about current war and russian goals. Under "russian goals" i mean not only Kremlin or just Kremlin. I mean the whole imperialistic russian nation)  "Russia aims to extirpating Ukrainian culture"2. What's happening in Russia? (johhnyUA: thread about sentiment in russian society about war in Ukraine. As author says "To put it simply, it's going full fascist") 3. Why East Ukraine fights so hard? 4. How popular is Z-war in Russia?4. The place of Chechnya within the Russian regime (johhnyUA: this is also ultra interesting thread) "Russia is extremely centralised which makes it fragile. It needs an informal and largely independent face to make the regime more robust. That's why Kadyrov is the last line of Putin's defence"And some useful threads about russian military (johhnyUA: aspects which were totally ignored by western experts): 1) Russian armz and russian goals (johhnyUA: because of low morale troops it's artillery based with a lot of useless and harful staff) "Every time Putin needed to confirm his alpha status he would devastate some little country with a Special Operation. They didn't require proper preparation because they bore no existential risk to Russia or to him. Like, the fuck they're gonna do? No risk = no need to bother" 2) Why russian army is so bad (a little more about reasons why Kremlin don't want to create high morale army with famous generals). "Let's go a bit deeper in history. When Bolsheviks took power in 1917 they were constantly comparing themselves with English and French revolutionaries. As they new well, both English and French revolutions ended with military usurpations done by victorious revolutionary generals.... That probably explains why the victorious Red Army had so many commanders killed under mysterious circumstances. According to official narrative - by the enemy fire, but suspectedly - by assassins shooting at their back from the close range. Like Schors" 3) Why Russian army is so weak? "Notwithstanding with its warlike image, boosted by massive PR campaign, Russian military have nearly zero experience of fighting conventional wars against other regular armies. They were quite successful in suppressing civilian riots ofc, in Hungary 1956, Czechoslovakia 1968, etc" "That's their mode of thinking. Killing Nemtsov is a special operation. Invasion of Ukraine is a special operation. Sounds dumb isn't it? Actually it makes sense. Russian regime is regime of cosplayers: state security agents who pretend to be soldiers and desire the military glory. State security playing soldiers launched a Special Operation and accidentally got into a real war. They're scared."4) World War Z and Russian minorities "Russian minorities are wildly overrepresented on Ukrainian battlefields as cannon fodder. In return for their blood they are awarded with forced assimilation and loss autonomy. Many question their support of Z"5) Why Russia is losing this war? " The failure of many analysts to correctly predict the course of Z-war resulted from three factors. First, they greatly overestimated (or rather misunderstood) the Russian-Soviet army. Second, they underestimated the Ukrainian one. Third, they ignored the Russian political goals" The Second One: Sergej Sumlenny. Also writting in english so it will be easy to read him Interesting threads: 1. How russia prepared it's own people for a big war through weird literature "Let's start a long thread about how Russian book market prepared Russians for a full-scale war against Ukraine, NATO, the West, and promoted stalinism and nazism, and how this was ignored by the West. Keep seat belts fasten, you will see a lot of nasty things here."
Local rule: Topic is self moderated. Well known trolls or insane guys who are not allowed to write here: BADecker, be.open. This list can be extended in the future. the reason for this war is capitalism those russians that tried to declare autonomy wanted to found and own and run their own central bank for that they had to undermine the ukrainian state, it is pretty much the same they did like what the ukrainian baltic and eastern european oligarchs did to the russians. the eastern europeans want to declare independence from russia but don't allow russians to declare independence from them, because if the oprthodox russians would do that they would be not able to afford the alliance with the liberal usa. because the west will simply drain them of their labour and no labour would come to them from russia thats why they are screwed. they are the nazis that pretend to fight nazis |
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american left doesn't want the war to end they want it to be bloody and long, they want to destroy weaken and destroy russia at all costs,
its basically neonazi ideology again what we are withnessing today but this time driven by leftists and woke zionist jews
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America can only stop the war of Ukraine and Russia if they follow it dialogue. But were by america supporting Russian or neither Ukraine by giving each of the country war supplements. With this method i fish out that it means the war can never come to end. I think world peace keeping ambassador is still existing.so with this sector or set of government function can call the problem of Ukraine and Russia to bar. And it can only happens if peace making ambassador is mandated to do so with other top countries support
I think America can and it should do all what it can to stop this war which is not only causing huge human casualties, collateral damage but also economic crisis worldwide. Look at crude oil and food price where they were before the war and where they are today as well as inflation is sky rocketing. America will have to sit with Russian leadership to negotiate the future of Ukraine which is acceptable for all parties involved and this is the only way to bring this conflict to an end. Today, the US House of Representatives voted 417-10 to pass a lend-lease bill to allow for an unrestricted armament of Ukraine and other Eastern European countries. The following Republicans voted against the bill: Andy Biggs Dan Bishop Warren Davidson Matt Gaetz Paul Gosar Marjorie Taylor Greene Thomas Massie Ralph Norman Scott Perry Tom Tiffany They need to be investigated for possible links to Russian terrorists. I think it is a small step in the right direction to end this conflict. Hopefully, by the year-end the Russian army will be completely destroyed. how are the US democrats an indication of social justice? they are a racist and fascist movement. and the stupid ukranians are defending them, together with zelinski |
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Telling a fib today is considered harmless and most people seem to lie so quickly and are very good at it too. We all know lying isn't good anyway it's being looked at but we all indulge in it and very frequently too. And today, it is considered harmless and a little white lie; almost innocent lol.
Can we as humans ever stop telling lies?
jes the world is either so complicated that they say the wrong things or they simply don't understand it so they say wrong things, this makes even many jews liers or trash talkers, although i would strictly distinguish those. with liers being people that deliberately say wrong things to gain something, like a trader that wants to sell better, while trash talkers are people that don't know better without admitting it. american jews like bill maher and jon steward, are trash talkers as they don't want to lie but they don't admit that they don't know better but heavens/god/allahu akbar/the gods still give you a warning sign from such people, they blind their eyesight (punishment for shortsightedness), and make them wear big fat glasses, like jon steward and bill maher indeed do.   so you end up seeing jews that pretend to know stuff without being humble about their knowledge and admitting that they don't know a lot but they wear big fat classes that will warn them from them. so i think strictly orthodox jews, muslims and christians that are humble and admit that they don't know better can be considered "not liers" like for example Ben Shapiro but their information could be trashy. so indeed ben shapiros information could be trashy but as a orthodox jews he is humble and admits that. so heavens/god/gods/allahu akbar don't have to warn you.  Ben Shapiro is humble about his knowledge and publicly admits that, he fights against far left woke extremism, but he still lives with limited information and based on that some of his information is trash. like for example his jew nazi allegiance with Zelinski against Putin. note: that Bill maher and Jon steward are now forced to wear glasses since Qanon!!!!if they don't admit that their knowledge is limited and their source not divine and holy they are trash talkers. regards |
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Although the invasion of Ukraine by Russia is far from over. But it is important we acknowledge some individuals or group of individuals that have shown uncommon courage and bravery. They are many but I have identified some of them and they are worth cerebrating. 1) The 13 Border Guides of Snake Island: These brave soldiers refused to surrender to the Russian Navy. They preferred to die as heroes than to surrender. When the Russian Navy onboard the the Moskva told these Ukrainian guides to surrender, their response was ' go f*** yourself'. The Moskva opened fire on them but they miraculously survived. After repelling the Russian military from taking the Island twice, they were captured. They have been identified as one the catalysts of the Ukrainian military gallantry. https://mobile.facebook.com/navy.mil.gov.ua/posts/324444389723150?_rdc=1&_rdr2) The unnamed Ukrainian Woman: Standing just a meter from an armed Russian soldier she was filmed angrily shouting at the soldier. She called the soldiers occupants, enemies and fascists. She gave sunflowers seeds to the soldier and advised them to put them in their pockets so that the seed will grow when they die in Ukraine. 3) The Ukrainian Crowd: During the early days of the war, some Ukrainian marched against the convoy of Russian troops and tanks. Some of them even threw themselves on the road attempting to bloc Russias from advancing. 4) Vitaly Skakun: Destruction of the Henichesky bridge was the only war to stop the Russian tank from advancing. Due to some logistics challenge and time limitations there was no means of detonating the mine remotely or automatically. Anyone that would detonate the mine manually would not have the time to leave the area alive. Vitaly successful destroyed the bridge, but died from the explosion. 5) Yelena Osipova: This 76-year old refused to bow to the intimidation of Kremlin not to protest the invasion of Ukraine. Yelena was on the streets of St. Petersburg protesting and she was arrested by Russian riot police. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/02/25/heroes-ukraine-ordinary-people-fight-lives-russian-aggression/6) Vitality Klitschko: Kremlin's major objective in Ukraine was to overthrow the government of Zelensky and install a pro-Russian president. For them to achieve this goal, Kyiv must fall. The task of defending Kyiv mainly fall on the shoulders Klitschko, best known as a boxing heavyweight champion. Refusing to leave Kyiv, he put his life at risk to defend Kyiv. Against all predictions of military experts his city withstood more than six weeks of Russian takeover causing the frustrated invaders to retreat in shame. these people for sure will not become war heroes in the long run, they litterally are fighting for an extremist ideology that is losing ground and foundation in the west (woke leftism) you might cry around during the battle but you will never be able to win the war, for that you have simply not the long time overview, not even the jews that support and run these woke extremists like bill maher had an idea what they where doing, and are now abandoning it. and last but not least, if antisemitism threatens israel, in the middle east, it doesnt make it saver to destroy arab states you get tribal areas that are antisemitic. |
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Our soldier of god is ready to go to Mars on a nuclear propelled ship. I guess he intends to preach to martian stones. So far he doesn't seem to have any luck here. He might have better luck on Mars, converting the stones.  It won't be easy, however stones might believe that the Earth was created less than 7 thousands years ago. how is he supposed to go to mars if on the ground the USA is collapsing due to fascism? |
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No question why fin is not in nato.
Also if putin attack fast enough he can go to swdden also.
But yes finland will be ocvupied asap i guess in few days
Well, his invasion of Ukraine obviously went exactly to plan and he was able to take over the whole country smoothly and easily in a couple of days, without any mess, civilian casualities, western sanctions or global condemnation... Even if he wanted to, it seems highly unlikely that he'd send the incompetent and demoralised remnant of his military somewhere else to open another front. I really can't see it happening. Although with Putin, who knows, difficult to rule anything out. That was his initial plan, however it failed miserably. It's been way over a month and I don't see light at the end of the tunnel. Anyway, Putin has indeed threatened the neighbouring non-NATO countries, however, I can't seem to find anything to backup OP's claims regarding military movement nearby Finland. Putin's threats against non-NATO countries are nothing new, I don't believe that they will ever be fulfilled, Russia is losing the war. well the threat is not to arm up and to stay truly neutral |
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Blacks make up 13% of the population, yet commit more than 50% of the crime. More than 90% of Blacks killed are murdered by other Blacks. Black crime is often ignored or even glamorized. Why not protest this? Edit Oct. 7 2020, adding this gem to first post, and subject: these blacks are the thugs that the stupid democrats think they controll but they don't they just whip them towards the republicans, the civil war in america never ended for the democrats they continue to whip the republicans with their wokism. if america would be working it would either have a governeur, run a soviet style orthodox soviet union or simply getting desintegrated. we are observing the desintegration of the united states right now in the end we will end up with 2 media movements, and 2 central banks |
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No question why fin is not in nato.
Also if putin attack fast enough he can go to swdden also.
But yes finland will be ocvupied asap i guess in few days
well since finnland doesn't surpress any russian minorities i wouldn't worry, i would worry if i would be a nationalist in the baltic states, they have huge parts of their population that is russian and that lives there as second class people. aldo moldowia's transnistria is still not being recognised as a republic |
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i am observing that the western jewish left part of the society
if very eager to accuse and diffame their enemies as racists in a fascist way, but when it comes to its own racial inclusiveness, they censor everyone that
points out the racist issues in the woke left of the west.
even in this forum they are trying to protect their extremism through censorship.
how long till they give up this nonsense? why are they obsessed with hiding their own faschist and extremism, it is dangerous to many people.
they have to be honest and admit their problems. like germany when it dealt with its own nazi past. the left must now deal with its own racism
regards
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An interesting similarity between the Nazi-esque forces who seem to be doing a lionshare of the fighting for Ukraine side in the current conflict/stage-show and the so-called 'ISIS' Islamic fighters in Syria is that they seem to cause no concern to Israel at all. Israel offers 'ISIS' weapons, medical services, etc, and considers the Azov folks to be 'the good Nazis' because they've don't cause problems for the Jews any more.
I recall some years ago that 'ISIS' did attack some Israeli assets. They apologized profusely for the incident and promised to be more careful going forward. As best I can tell, they have.
It's all so very interesting...
this is an attempt if there is a supposedly big enemy they support small folks to support split him into many. but it is going to be a pyrus victory, the enemy is antisemitism in the middle east not the state of syria, the state of syria is pretty much just a state, but the jews would have to fight the antisemitic elements of it. by trying to destroy the state of syria the jews indirectly try to enslave syrians to their central bank. the destruction of nearby state will only create highly hateful nearby tribal societies, israel will win not at all putin himself is not an antisemite, he is just a kommunist that for humanitarian reasons tries to help arabs in the middle east live and run their states, the antisemitism comes from somewhere else, destroying those arab states is as pointless as it only creates tribal areas. that then equally are antisemitic |
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syria has alsmost 4 times the population than russia
You should probably stop sniffing glue before breakfast. ok in new estimation its 17.5 i thought it has by now over 24 million people, but since the massive losses of the civil war we are at 17.5 million it's then just 2 and 1/2 times the population of israel |
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But think about this. People want to be free. People like to be able to make their own decisions about their lives. People don't mind working (enslaving themselves to their boss), if the wages are good enough to keep them satisfied. Now consider Biden. His job is one of the most demanding in the whole world. He doesn't have much if any freedom. What is his job? Taking freedom away from other people. How ironic. One of the jobs with the least amount of freedom in the world, being used to take freedom away from people. Who is getting all that stolen freedom? with free they mean nothing else but others to do what they want and by that they all become fascist even orthodox christians can become fascist in their own way. |
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Yes, it is logical.
This is very simple and I will explain it to you as if you were 5: If you are not nice to other kids (e.g. shelling cities), they do not want to play with you. Do you really pretend that the achievements and culture of your country are celebrated while you kill others? Why don't you go and play Wagner in Tel-Aviv?
The argument of "ordinary citizens" or "cultural manifestation" obviously do not apply to anything that can be construed as a symbol of Putin's regime.
I hate Putin for this, I liked Tchaikovsky's ballets.
putin's regime is not about putin enriching himselves. it's first and main priority is to secure same human rights standards for russians as for nonrussians in europe, the invasion of ukraine was caused by a violation of those rights, and therefor it happened, the perpetrators are the liberal leftists that try to fund their liberal leftism on the supression of russian autonomy because the ethnic woke elements would otherwise quickly wipe out the western left from inside. regards |
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why is no one telling that to putin? he completely doesn't see what he is doing in the middle east.
Don't teach Putin how to do business in the Middle East, better learn from him yourself. The Middle East respects strength and honesty, but without direct pressure. If you don't have power, you are nothing. If you cheated once, there will be no second chance. Say directly what you want, and show how it is beneficial to the other side. Have a reliable simple strategy and surprise with a variety of tactics. Make generous concessions on minor things, but bargain hard for your primary interest. The Middle East is a delicate matter. putin will have only regional power, his power is limited he is not some world ruler but he is an importent cornerstone against woke radicalism putin literally exposes the corrupt hypocritical and racist woke western left. |
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At what point is ok or even necessary to declare war and enforce physical violence on a nation or group in self defense of the economic whole?
what do you mean with economic terrorism? do you want to force westerners to trade with terrorist nations so they can arm themselves up or supply their elite with luxury? if a country like iran targets a vital and important strategic partner of the united states directly it can't accuse the US of being a terrorist, it simply is terrorising part of the US. same is also with russia which doesn't threathen israel directly but indirectly. |
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What we all forget in our pro Putin support is,
that it is very important to hold putin in front of his head his support of arab states like syria,
ofc getting rid of arabic states might even create more dangerous and violent tribal areas in which people can become even more animal like and dangerous, and that's the reason why putin is supporting states in the middle east.
arming ukraine might look dangerous for russia but how does arming syria look to israel,
ukraine is a country that has less than a fourth or third of the population to russia, but syria has alsmost 4 times the population than russia and putin and china are arming it and proving it with trade networks that in term arm hamas or hizbollah.
why is no one telling that to putin? he completely doesn't see what he is doing in the middle east. putin is supporting states in the middle east because he thinks it prevents them from collapsing into tribal areas which then are even more dangerous.
we have no different interpretations,
what is more dangerous to israel tribal areas in the middle east that are like afghanistan in which women are being enslaved to breed suicide bombers, or states that have an organised leadership and (unfortunately hostile) a bigger style weaponry.
are there any jews here? what do you feel more threathened by afghanistan next door or russia/china next door?
because no matter what the usa will try to bombard that country/people, and it will try doing that as long as the woke have not yet destroyed the usa.
regards
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who cares?, woke america is not even capable to count its election votes without any frauds.
desantis will likely being put into the white house by the US military, and police in order to protect the right of parents from woke insaniacs and their corporate and media partners. And you will see half of america cheerleading over the democrats being thrown out of the white house by the police and army, while the others will call them white supremacists and racists etc.
at the same time both parties and both halves of america will diffame each other as nazis and racists
just wait and watch
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the usa tries to keep israel save, russia tries to keep arab states save, arab states attack israel so usa destroyes arab states,
this is because the usa currently is more powerful, as its destroying itself through woke ideology things might change,it might even get very ugly for jews if they can't figure out how to go along with putin.
in the end russian people are equally as dangerous as american people, look at ukraine they destroyed an entire country now because of some nazis that surpressed some russians from getting autonomy, thats a complete overreaction although putin waited for 8 years, and reminded over 8 years. but a divine paradox will make vladimir putin who is the worlds biggest antinazi look like hiter (arab states as gas chambers etc.)
russia is not more trustworthy than usa, especially if the leader "serves" somehow his people, then mad stuff like in ukraine or lybia can happen
because people are greedy. and if a leader serves people he is dangerous thats why in muslims want to be lead by someone that doesn't serve anyone
regards
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Russia is a terrorist country, run by a gang of criminals.
Its government resembles a mafia-style organization.
so how is the us different then? should russia nuke ukraine like us did with japan?
Is it logical?
No. While I don't support harassing ordinary Russians, there is a huge difference between someone being oppressed and unable to elect their government, and someone who openly and deliberately supports Putin's fascist Z-regime, such as yourself. It's funny how Putinists adopted the "cancel culture" meme, which is really a snowflake's way of saying "why can't I make everyone shut up and not point out all the false shit I'm peddling". putin is neither fascist nor is he a dictator, anyone has the freedom in russia to create his own cryptocurrency, and try to find idiots to police his own "country" people simply don't care about those that try, and respect the current establishment. it was putin that constantly faught against the us democrats Bloodbaths in the middle east. the problem is not putin its the US democrats and their insanity, there is the woke ideology which is radical racist and extreme, then there is the greed to enslave as many people as possible to the US Dollar in the name of "human rights" the us is the biggest terrorist in the world currently, and more precisely the US democrats, i think its time the US joins the rest of the american and splits into a catholic religious part and a wild indianic polytheistic one, this marriage of both creates an insane and dangerous state its better the us is in constant civil war like it was in early ages of colonialism, or the age of the wild west which are subject to movies around the world but are considered the dark time of the wild west. |
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