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25981  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Poll: Is the creation of artificial superinteligence dangerous? on: January 07, 2017, 12:02:07 AM
“Machine consciousness” debunked in new mini-documentary by the Health Ranger





(NaturalNews) To the techno-worshippers, humans will soon become “immortal” because they will be able to “transfer” their consciousness into machines. Or AI systems will become “self aware,” achieving the same mind consciousness that we experience as living, spirit-imbued beings with free will.

Today, I’ve just released a new mini-documentary called The Folly of Machine Consciousness. It reveals why all those who claim machines will attain consciousness are not just wrong, but deeply misguided.


Read more and watch the video at http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-01-02-machine-consciousness-fallacy-health-ranger-documentary-mind-singularity.html


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25982  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Preparation for Death. Cremation or Burial? on: January 06, 2017, 11:49:06 PM
I'm practicing hymns of praise, so that I will be able to praise God better, right from the start in Heaven.

Cool
25983  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donald trumphs victory-a cheat on: January 06, 2017, 11:47:32 PM
Trump also said if he did not win that means Hillary cheating and he wants to do re-election. Trump will only accept the result if he wins, he's very ambitious. But now he is elected president, I don't know if can do a re-election. I think he will continue to lead the United States.

Trump stated that because of the massive voter fraud that was happening in many areas. Hillary attacked Trump for saying this, but after she got destroyed it took her a day to concede and then her campaign stood behind recount efforts because they could not believe the results and she and her supporters did not want to accept the election results. The same thing she attacked Trump for saying, she did herself.
Whatever it was, but Trump is not smart enough to lead a country like the United States of America. He is a disgrace to Americans. I am sure that the Americans will regret that have chosen clown for President.
I think Trump probably smart enough to lead the US because he successfully led several of the company that he led, that can be the Trump to lead the US. But I think he's crafty, he will do what he wants in any way. I am sure he will dominate not lead, it will be a lot of his decision that do not make sense.
First it is not known what Trump is a businessman. Who checked his Declaration? And how he earned his money? And secondly, politics is not the business! Then to gain political advantage need to have a financial loss. I don't think Trump is able to understand it.

Same people who check Obama's birth certificate.    Grin
25984  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why God exists in all people mind? on: January 06, 2017, 11:45:37 PM
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I feel that god is everything - the reality, the particles -atom, protons, neutrons, quarks, leptons etc. etc...

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We have loads of evidence of things propagating themselves. But we don't have evidence of anything creating itself.

Everything comes from somewhere outside of itself. So, everything can't be God.

Cool
25985  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: January 06, 2017, 11:41:57 PM
i support Gun control as long as it doesn't mean taking guns from the people.


I support _________________ as long as it doesn't mean taking freedom from anybody.

Cool
25986  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How can terrorism be stopped on: January 06, 2017, 11:40:36 PM
Only Jesus can stop terrorism, its very hard for Real Christians to commit acts that eventually will end someone's life. I for instance make sure that they way i live i dont want to spend eternity in hell.

Or...

Jesus saved me. I owe Him everything. He asks me to be a nice guy. So, I'll do it because He asks.

Cool
25987  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Space X and the prospects of Mars colonization. on: January 06, 2017, 11:37:30 PM
By the time a Mars trip is made to be safe, the EMDrive will be perfected, and we won't have to use any rocket propellant to get to Mars. Everything will be a lot lighter, because we will harvest solar, and turn it into electricity to make the EMDrive work.

The EmDrive

A New Concept in Spacecraft Propulsion


Satellite Propulsion Research Ltd (SPR Ltd) a small UK based company, has demonstrated a remarkable new space propulsion technology. The company has successfully tested both an experimental thruster and a demonstrator engine which use patented microwave technology to convert electrical energy directly into thrust. No propellant is used in the conversion process. Thrust is produced by the amplification of the radiation pressure of an electromagnetic wave propagated through a resonant waveguide assembly.

Contact sprltd@emdrive.com

Google or Youtube search on "EMDrive."

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25988  Other / Off-topic / Re: How many times have you've been scammed? on: January 06, 2017, 11:31:21 PM
I've been scammed at least as many times as I have paid income taxes.

Cool
25989  Other / Off-topic / Re: Flat Earth on: January 06, 2017, 11:29:19 PM
Meanwhile, /r/space posted this awesome photo from the ISS clearly looking down upon a flat earth.



This photo is actually amazing!

Actually it is. But the flat Earth people will tell you it is computer generated art.

Cool
25990  Other / Off-topic / Stelzer engine on: January 06, 2017, 11:26:41 PM
Stelzer engine


Stelzer engine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stelzer_engine



The Stelzer engine is a two-stroke opposing-piston design proposed by Frank Stelzer. It uses conjoined pistons in a push-pull arrangement which allows for fewer moving parts and simplified manufacturing. An engine of the same design appeared on the cover of the February 1969 issue of Mechanix Illustrated magazine.


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Note in the graphic that, if there were no spark plugs, and the combustion chamber had a flat head like the piston head, there would be detonation rather than a burn.

Normally detonation in a piston engine is destructive, because the piston has nowhere to move after a detonation, because the crankshaft is turning in a direction 90 degrees different than the direction of the piston movement.

In a Stelzer there is no crankshaft. There is nothing to stop piston movement. The tremendous power of detonation can be put to practical use.



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25991  Other / Off-topic / Scalar Tensor Theory of gravitation to explain EMDrive on: January 06, 2017, 11:08:09 PM
Scalar Tensor Theory of gravitation to explain EMDrive





The scalar-tensor theory of gravitation proposed by Mbelek and Lachièze-Rey has been shown to lead to a possible explanation of the forces measured in asymmetric resonant microwave cavities. However, in the derivation of the equations from the action principle some inconsistencies were observed, like the need no to vary the electromagnetic invariant in a scalar source term. Also, the forces obtained were too high, in view of reconsideration of the experiments originally reported and of newly published results. In the present work the equations are re-derived using the full variation of the action, and also the constant of the theory re-evaluated employing the condition that no anomalous gravitational effects are produced by the earth's magnetic field. It is shown that the equations originally employed were correct, and that the newly evaluated constant gives the correct magnitude for the forces recently reported

The scalar-tensor (ST) gravitational theory of Mbelek and Lachièze-Rey (MLR), allows electromagnetic (EM) fields to modify the space-time metric far more strongly than predicted by General Relativity and standard ST theories.
The theory was applied in cosmological and galactic contexts, and it was used to explain the discordant measurements of Newton gravitational constant as due to the effect of the earth's magnetic field. It was further shown that a ST theory of the MLR type could explain the unusual forces on asymmetric resonant cavities reported at that time. However, in the derivation of the equations from the action principle some inconsistencies were observed, and also the forces obtained, after reconsideration of the experiments originally reported and new results were too high.


Read more at http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/01/scalar-tensor-theory-of-gravitation-to.html.


Cool
25992  Economy / Economics / Re: If bitcoin price is $10.000, will fiat be worthless? on: January 06, 2017, 03:45:44 PM
LOAF OF BREAD WILL COST $1,000.    Cool
25993  Other / Archival / Re: I'm really leaving the U.S. for a 3rd world country because of politics on: January 06, 2017, 01:27:04 PM
Well personally I really don't think this is a bad idea. Thailand and Philippines is easier for western guys because people there can understand and talk English very well.

People speak English well... but at the same time, the expats must be cautious. There are quite a few guys out there, who would attempt to trick the expats with various ponzi schemes and offers.

You better believe it. If you decide to buy land in Central or South America, you need to find a lawyer. There isn't any Title Agency, in any of these lands. It is very difficult to determine who really owns a chunk of land being sold.

Cool
25994  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: January 06, 2017, 01:24:14 PM
Taxes are necessary always and everywhere. With regard to Africa if she's so rich as you write then why are there so bad people live? Why Russia produces a lot of oil, and the people living in poverty while in Saudi Arabia the rich in the same oil.

The people in Russia are rich, when compared to those living in the neighboring nations (such as Ukraine and Moldova). Russia and Saudi Arabia produces almost the same amount of oil. But the difference is that, the profits in Russia must be divided among 145 million people, while there are only around 20 million citizens in Saudi Arabia.

And there are only about 40 million inhabitants of Siberia, which is a gigantic Russian land, full of natural resources, covering about 9% of the earth, over 5 million square miles - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia.

The U.S., with nearly 330 million people, has less than 3.8 million square miles.

Siberia is only one part of Russia. Then there is Russia, herself.

Cool
25995  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: January 06, 2017, 01:14:50 PM
God Or Moral Nihilism
https://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/4871

Quote from: Richard Cocks

Who needs God? Morality is a social construction

If morality is a social construction, then morality does not exist. Just because we call some things ‘good’ and others ‘evil’ doesn’t mean that good and evil refer to anything.
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If morality doesn’t exist for real, then neither can morality be a useful fiction. Something can only be useful (have extrinsic value) if the thing that it is useful for is actually valuable i.e., intrinsically valuable. If we say that the false belief in morality makes us happy and is therefore good, we are introducing a moral category again; the notion that anything that makes human beings happy is good and anything that makes us unhappy is bad. We arrive at the morally good and bad once again.

All people who think that morality is a social construction and is good/useful, have reintroduced moral realism; the notion that good and evil actually exist. This is a contradiction and therefore cannot be true. You cannot believe that morality is merely a social construction and in moral realism.

If you claim to believe that morality is a social construction, then you are a moral nihilist. All us adults know that Father Christmas doesn’t really exist and you’re effectively claiming that morality doesn’t either.

The Argument from Religion - A Transcendental Argument

Morality can’t be found from a scientific examination of nature. So if morality is not in nature it must be beyond nature – the supernatural.

Where does value come from? It’s not found in the world reduced to scientific facts. Nonetheless, it’s found in the world as we actually experience it. We find value in all sorts of things. We value our friendships, and hopefully at least some of our family members. We value certain books, films, projects, beautiful days, ‘nature,’ and music. So value exists. We experience it. A transcendental argument asks – what must the world be like for this experience to be possible? There must be more to the world than scientific facts. The value of the world that we discover must have its basis in something else.
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Morality is invisible to science because science cannot see value. Anything invisible to science must either not exist at all, or it must be nonphysical. Our name for the nonphysical aspects of reality is the spiritual, i.e., the divine, transcendent, God.
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There is remarkable agreement among those at the higher reaches of many world religions. High level Buddhists, Catholic monks, Kabbalists, Sufis, all describe ultimate reality in similar terms and much of what they say can be summed up in the cliché, ‘all is one.’

If all is one, then my treating you badly is really treating myself badly.
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God or Moral Nihilism

Your choices are God or moral nihilism. Social constructionism and Darwinian evolutionary theory can only allow you to say that we think and act like morality exists, not that morality does exist. Social construction and Darwinism certainly have nothing to say about the truth of morality. In fact, they suppose the opposite. In the first case, we just made it up, like Father Christmas. That’s called moral nihilism. The second case, Darwinians might try to say that morality is useful in promoting survival, but since they cannot establish that surviving has any intrinsic value, they cannot logically point to the extrinsic value of morality. Nothing has extrinsic value if nothing has intrinsic value and since the existence of intrinsic value is precisely what needs explaining in morality, Darwin and his followers have nothing interesting to say on the topic.

If you choose moral nihilism, just remember what you are choosing...If moral nihilism is true, then your life has no value and neither does anybody else’s.

The torturer will be right to start removing your fingers. Why? Because it’s fun and you can have nothing to say on the subject...The fact that you don’t want to die is only relevant if morality exists and morality requires another person to respect your wishes and desires. If you claim that your wishes and desires are nonetheless important, then you will be unable to say why my wishes and desires are not important too...we can go back to gassing the Jews, human sacrifice, and seeing how loud we can get torture victims to scream and any other psychotic things you can think of. If you must respect my wishes and desires, then you are behaving morally. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Of course, morality is something that is chemically built into every person. It has been handed down, parents to children, since the Beginning. God invented it. It has to do with our ability to live in the universe.

The interesting thing is that it may be attached to the soul and spirit in ways that are non-physical, as well.

Cool
25996  Other / Politics & Society / Re: After death on: January 06, 2017, 01:10:53 PM
the big question is then:
is the brain's function being the source of consciousness or its a mere transmitter of consciousness which also gives us ability to create taking into account you have a functioning vessel. has anybody heard of 21 grams that people lose the moment they die?


Yes, but that may be a lose of breath, emptying of bowls and other air that got stuck in body... who knows but that is interesting tho.


A good way to test this would be to replace all the deathbeds in a testing facility type hospital with bed-like electronic scales and monitor the patients one by one as they die. Measurements of weight, perspiration, gas emissions and excretions could be taken to verify all results. If results repeat with all patients and also in a couple different testing facility hospitals then there should be a strong case for this 21-gram consciousness hypothesis. Should be an interesting experiment.


Good idea. I suppose you have read about the one time it was done? My guess is that doctors and hospitals would be opposed to doing this because it might prove that there is such a thing as a spirit, that actually has weight. The expense would be great, because the area where each patient was kept would have to be sealed, physically. Patients are people. So, it might be difficult sealing an area and yet allowing medication to enter as necessary to keep the patient alive.

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25997  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why God exists in all people mind? on: January 06, 2017, 01:05:19 PM
God is one, but people argue about their own perception.

What god is the one? There are like 4k+ gods... I don't know of which one do you speak of.

Wrong. There is only one God. There are many descriptions of God. There are many idols. There are many people who suggest there are many gods. But there is only one God.

Cool
25998  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is taxation theft? on: January 06, 2017, 12:48:50 AM
If they take it from you, it is theft. If you give it willingly, it isn't taxation.

Cool
25999  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: January 06, 2017, 12:46:38 AM

What do you not understand about fossils that are older than 6000 years  Cheesy

Why do you believe God wrote the Bible?
Because someone told you so?

Well, we're telling you otherwise  Cheesy

Here's a reasonable answer to that. God made it to appear older to us even tho is not to test our faith in him.

The furthest we can go back with any certainty is 4,500 years. The rest is guesswork. You will see this when you delve into what the basic archaeologists say. Everything that is not archaeology - like astronomy, meteors, geology - is based in theory. It is not known to be fact. the best we have is the Bible record.

God directed the writing of the Bible because, it could not come into being without god directing it. Check into the history of how the Bible came into being, and you will see that the whole operation of its being written could not have happened according to the laws of probability.

Do the research first, before you make up your mind decisively. It is important to your salvation.

Cool

So counting of tree rings to 9700+ does not count?


No because back in the olden days trees grew five rings a year. LOL

 Christians just make shit up as they go along.


I became silent within and meditated on the subject and pressing question of the tree rings and then I had a revelation that came to me from the Lord of the Tree Rings. Wanna know what He whispered in my ear? (He said it's OK I can share the secret - it'll be out anyways soon enough) - ONLY ONE RING PER YEAR   He had divinely ordained this to be an Infallible Universal Constant. There you have it.  Cheesy


We can stop worrying now, the lord of the rings has spoken. ROFL

I think it is in the Bible: Leviticus 20:13

"If a man puts one ring on his trunk and lies with a male as with a woman once per year, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."

It is of course up to interpretation...Some Christian and Muslim scholars think "it really means that trees add one ring per year, and it is ok to cut trees during full moon (as aligned with the menstrual cycle of your female slaves)"

But when in doubt, you have to consult with BADecker, he is an in-house guru on Bible interpretations and has broad Bronze Age knowledge in general.


That's because BADecker is from the Bronze Age. I have a theory about that.

Doctor Who went back to the Bronze Age chasing Daleks and used the chameleon circuit in the Tardis to make it look like a preteen girl. BADecker walked by the Tardis. While he was attempting to rape the girl (which was actually the Tardis) to give her an immaculate conception he fell in the Tardis and was transported to our time by accident.

Not really understanding anything about modern society, BADecker was placed in a mental institution after he was caught helping a couple of 60 year old gray haired catholic priests rape some teenaged boys. The hospital he resides in has a computer therapy program that allows him to access this forum where he continues to rape by buggering the logic and reasoning out of the brains of forum members.


Edit: Dr Who fans will know what I'm talking about.

Make sense.  His initials start with BA (Bronze Age).  Just like Black & Decker.  He knows all the about Bronze Age tools, hence the name: BADecker.


And the "Decker" part stands for the 3 decks on Noah's ark.    Cool
26000  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why God exists in all people mind? on: January 06, 2017, 12:45:00 AM
Jesus has offered His perfection to all who believe in Him.

Cool
Christians often play the Jesus perfect card in the desperate hope to suck in more members.
However, a perfect Jesus would of persuaded everyone to believe in him and be saved.
Anything less is imperfection.

See, amazing what pops up when you apply a little thinking. You should give it a whirl sometime. You're thinking has seized up.

Edit: Oh, and best not mention Jesus breaking commandments by stealing donkey(s). More imperfection.



So, that's the imperfect way you answer perfection.     Cheesy
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