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261  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining Room Intake Filters on: May 11, 2018, 10:57:14 PM

you can use those, they are washable and can last long, but keep in mind that they are for large particles, in fact they are great for ASICs at least for my environment.
Also very important to keep an eye on pressure, you should balance intake and outtake of air with filters, you should get positive airflow.


How would I test this?

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From what I've been reading, the tool you use to measure it is called a manometer.
262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining Room Intake Filters on: May 09, 2018, 10:48:01 PM
Another question for you ... The stuff that is labeled "pre-filter" isn't washable, is that correct?  I'm finding different companies that sell activated carbon filter rolls, but they all say "pre-filter" and none say they are washable.
263  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining Room Intake Filters on: May 09, 2018, 07:45:54 PM
Anyone have suggestions on filter types for intake?  I'm pulling in air from the outside and I it's pulling in a lot of dust/dirt/ect.  I know I've seen someone talk about what types to use and what not to use, but I can't find the old post I read it in.
depends on what kind of dust are you trying to avoid, all of them obvious.
My configs are one time use filters plus activated carbon foam 5mm filters which you can wash and reinstall. In fact you can use only activated carbon foam and choose thickness depending on your needs.
Also you have to consider aperture (PPI) to avoid positive or negative pressure in mining room

Something like this? ...

https://www.amazon.com/Resinta-Activated-Purifier-Replacement-Pre-Filter/dp/B075CGH938/ref=cm_wl_huc_item

yes but I'd suggest you to find some sellers on alibaba or
here is the company I'm dealing with http://www.bktech.com.cn/english/

this is a pre filter for small particles of dust, the bad thing about this is that once it's full you have to throw it away http://www.bktech.com.cn/english/product.php?id=91#VIEW
this is the second washable filter http://www.bktech.com.cn/english/product.php?id=109#VIEW (I use only this)



Awesome!  Thanks so much for your help.  Why do you suggest Alibaba?  Won't shipping take way longer?  I'm in the United States.
264  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining Room Intake Filters on: May 09, 2018, 07:17:47 PM
Anyone have suggestions on filter types for intake?  I'm pulling in air from the outside and I it's pulling in a lot of dust/dirt/ect.  I know I've seen someone talk about what types to use and what not to use, but I can't find the old post I read it in.
depends on what kind of dust are you trying to avoid, all of them obvious.
My configs are one time use filters plus activated carbon foam 5mm filters which you can wash and reinstall. In fact you can use only activated carbon foam and choose thickness depending on your needs.
Also you have to consider aperture (PPI) to avoid positive or negative pressure in mining room

Something like this? ...

https://www.amazon.com/Resinta-Activated-Purifier-Replacement-Pre-Filter/dp/B075CGH938/ref=cm_wl_huc_item

If I only use activated carbon foam, would the 10-12mm be sufficient?
265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Mining Room Intake Filters on: May 09, 2018, 05:34:41 PM
Anyone have suggestions on filter types for intake?  I'm pulling in air from the outside and I it's pulling in a lot of dust/dirt/ect.  I know I've seen someone talk about what types to use and what not to use, but I can't find the old post I read it in.
266  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: who bought bitmain Z9 will face a big issues now on: May 09, 2018, 05:24:47 PM
I bet you can't give me one solid reason why using ASIC Is better for every one and not just the rich .

Because you have to spend $10k in hardware to match the hashrate of the z9?

Because this gives much cheaper access to mining than dedicated gpu rigs?

Because it uses 12x less power for the same hashrate as running on GPUs?

No more need for expensive power supplies and overprices graphics cards?

ASIC isnt a synonym for rich and it is exceptionally ignorant to think so when you do the math.

This machine would actually let people get in on altcoin mining at a fraction of the cost of a giant GPU rig that has 60+ failure points.

You wouldnt have to deal with buggy software, bad risers, and all the other things that keep GPU systems from having quality uptimes.

ASICs increase network speed. Increased network speed leads to a more secure network.


How many more reasons do you want? I can keep listing them.

I agree with a lot of that.  Big downside for a small time farms is risk failure, even if you are under warranty.  You pay all shipping and other fees.  You have to deal with shitty Chinese customer service practices, which is pretty much zero customer service.  The only way they get away with that shit is because of their size and lack of relevant competition.  

I've heard more than enough horror stories from bitmain customers, that I shy away.  If they were to change their customer service practices to mimic what we're used to in the United States, I would be more open to buying from bitmain.

customer service..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BtzaYpivFM


Lol ... I love that!  Oh how I miss that guy!
267  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: who bought bitmain Z9 will face a big issues now on: May 08, 2018, 11:52:23 PM
I bet you can't give me one solid reason why using ASIC Is better for every one and not just the rich .

Because you have to spend $10k in hardware to match the hashrate of the z9?

Because this gives much cheaper access to mining than dedicated gpu rigs?

Because it uses 12x less power for the same hashrate as running on GPUs?

No more need for expensive power supplies and overprices graphics cards?

ASIC isnt a synonym for rich and it is exceptionally ignorant to think so when you do the math.

This machine would actually let people get in on altcoin mining at a fraction of the cost of a giant GPU rig that has 60+ failure points.

You wouldnt have to deal with buggy software, bad risers, and all the other things that keep GPU systems from having quality uptimes.

ASICs increase network speed. Increased network speed leads to a more secure network.


How many more reasons do you want? I can keep listing them.

I agree with a lot of that.  Big downside for a small time farms is risk failure, even if you are under warranty.  You pay all shipping and other fees.  You have to deal with shitty Chinese customer service practices, which is pretty much zero customer service.  The only way they get away with that shit is because of their size and lack of relevant competition.  

I've heard more than enough horror stories from bitmain customers, that I shy away.  If they were to change their customer service practices to mimic what we're used to in the United States, I would be more open to buying from bitmain.
268  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Do you think miners will ever see 15$+ a day again on: May 08, 2018, 08:56:47 PM
I dont know what you guys are doing. Im getting $30 a day on a 7 card rig and this is while everything is down.
How much did you spent to buy 7 card rig?


What you need to worry about is how much you would have to spend to buy gpu's.
269  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Do you think miners will ever see 15$+ a day again on: May 08, 2018, 07:27:47 PM
I dont know what you guys are doing. Im getting $30 a day on a 7 card rig and this is while everything is down.

Everything is sort of down.  I mean rvn isn't doing bad at all.  Ten days ago it was trading for 300 some sat's.  Now it's trading for over 500 sat's.  Pretty big gain there. 
270  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Do you think miners will ever see 15$+ a day again on: May 08, 2018, 03:45:23 PM
Not easy for ETH miners.

Ok ... So don't mine ETH.
271  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What does FUD mean? on: May 08, 2018, 05:25:48 AM
Means "fuck you douchebag" in English ...  Grin
272  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: who bought bitmain Z9 will face a big issues now on: May 08, 2018, 04:28:55 AM
Samsung isn’t going to dominate shit in ASIC. Way too late to the game. TSMC and Bitmain will crush them like wet cardboard. Just like they are doing to Nvidia and AMD in GPU right now. And it’s only just begun.

I don't really agree.  You don't know how long they have been in the game and neither does anyone else.  On top of that, they have a lot more money than anyone else that is attempting to compete with Bitmain. 

Also, Bitmain isn't crushing Nvidia and AMD ... Crypto mining fell into their laps.  Sure they have benefited from it, but I don't believe it is or was ever a huge priority for them.
273  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: who bought bitmain Z9 will face a big issues now on: May 08, 2018, 04:23:54 AM
BTCP (Bitcoin Private) Currently Rank #45 announced to fight the new Bitmain Equihash Miner!

https://twitter.com/bitcoinprivate/status/993509511364317190

Another good news, congratulations BTCP team

congratulations for what?

They are pitting GPU miners against Asic miners, in reality we should all be one community.

bitcoin private wont be in my portfolio.

Why do people to refuse to adopt better technologies?  i'll never get it, only reason I see is people with money dumped into GPU's recently.

I'm tired of trying to explain, but let's go:

Devs wrote their whitepappers saying that they will be asic resistant, asic proof, they would change algo if needs

Bitmain and ALL Asics producers mined MONERO and dumped Asics to idiots because they knew of Monero FORK, look the hashrate of MONERO, it's disgusting this kind of behavior

They tried to sell used Asics as new

GPUs have 2 or 3 year warranty - Asics 180 days without refund

Not everyone can buy Asics, GPUs are easy to find and buy, everyone can join and make decentralization possible

Soon there will be only big farms with Asics, in a few hands

People like to say it's more efficient and will save energy, but remember Asics only mine one algo and when it's not profitable become a doorstep, GPUs when it's not profitable can be a part of PC gaming, office PC, and a lot of other uses

All stated above are FACTS.



I appreciate the reply and effort but that doesn't change the evolution of technology.  

Roadmaps change.

If you want to blame someone, blame Bitmain, not ASIC's themselves.    Also you need to provide proof that bitmain mined monero or sold used Asic's before saying what people "think".

More ASIC manufacturers would be helpful.    You're also talking about the current state of ASIC's, not future, you can already see the potential in efficiency.

If you can afford a GPU mining rig, you can afford an ASIC.   Unless you're mining with 1 card.

I get it, but you guys really just don't seem to have any open mindedness toward making mining more efficient and secure.

What would Bitmain have to do to make you happy?  Or would the addition of say a dozen other ASIC manufacturers help?

I would like to see more ideas vs everyone just bashing each other and getting pissed so that both "groups" can benefit from the time and money they've put towards a project.

Either way, good luck to Z9 purchasers and GPU owners going forward.    Cool

Hey, are you kidding?
Look at hashrate of monero, seriously, if you just spend 1 minute on Google you will find the proof you need
When monero forked the hashrate and difficulty lowered A LOT, Asics were kicked out

So, it`s hard to explain when people choose not to see, like you.

I'm not choosing not to see.  

I'm asking if you can prove in a court of law that Bitmain mined with those machines.

My answer is 99.9% no.   Yet people continue to insist that they did, maybe so, I can't prove it, and neither can you.

XMR network stats prior to and after fork pretty much says it all.  ASIC's and/or botnets were most certainly kicked off the network after the fork.  Probably both.  Whether or not those ASIC's belonged to Bitmain can't be proven, but you can put two and two together.  Regardless of who is responsible, they were on the network long before they were being offered for sale at a long bitmain type delay.  The fact that the network hashrate was so high for so long, prior to the announcement of a Cryptonight ASIC gives us a few hints too.

ASIC hardware in itself isn't a threat ... ASIC hardware coming from one large company is who can do whatever they want, because there is no competition at their weight is a threat.  Most people who have small-mid sized mining farms, should be able to afford asic hardware.  My concern with it is there isn't any competition on the same level to keep the big companies in check.
274  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: who bought bitmain Z9 will face a big issues now on: May 07, 2018, 01:57:40 AM
That's a VERY fair comparison, I run a ton of 1060's. 


Old school, huh?  Missed the boat on getting rid of those for a good price, but I guess that doesn't matter at this point ... They should have paid for themselves over and over again by now, if you bought them when they were top of the line.  

If you're talking 1070ti or better, than your 3000W figure is more than double what reality is.
275  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: who bought bitmain Z9 will face a big issues now on: May 05, 2018, 02:45:45 AM
My monero Mining is much better after the fork

MINE IS TOO!!! I'm back to petting the fluffy pony now.  I was starting to feel the need to kick him, for a minute there  Smiley
276  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: who bought bitmain Z9 will face a big issues now on: May 05, 2018, 02:43:19 AM
great news  Smiley, i have 80 gpus

If you have 80 Vega's, you have nothing to worry about ... Today that is ...
277  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: who bought bitmain Z9 will face a big issues now on: May 05, 2018, 02:42:36 AM
Zcash has already stated that even before Bitmain released an miner that he wouldn't fork it.

That and the night before the bitmain announcement, zooko makes his own announcement (something on github?)  Correct me, if I'm wrong ... That didn't look good.  But then you check his twitter and he's wobbling back and forth ... Who knows what zec will do.  I don't think zooko will do a damn thing, but I'm not in the business of making predictions either.
278  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: who bought bitmain Z9 will face a big issues now on: May 05, 2018, 02:38:03 AM
Didnt zcash dev already said that he doesnt care about  asics and that its to much hustle for him to do anything about it because he thinks thats the fight without chances to win Undecided Also add zencash on the list of coins that plan to fight asics,also anyone have idea how much % of all equihash hash zec takes?

What is.. zcash...?  Tongue

Zcash (ZEC)
279  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: how to make a good post? on: May 05, 2018, 01:21:55 AM
Oh this popping up in my feed again?  How about we all sit down and start to shut up now?  Listen, Read, Learn, and then speak.  A thread on how to make a good post is good for wasting bandwidth ... And that's about it.  Unless you're a 9 year old, of course.
280  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Mining Monero: A Complete Guide on: May 04, 2018, 02:08:53 PM
What's your point?  To tell us shit we already know?
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