My take is that it is still valid because we are still in the mid of June and the testing has been making good progress so far. If you are in the chat you would see that devs and test participants have been busy in testing and analyzing the test results to optimize the system. But for the testing, I am totally ok if it will take more time and go beyond June. It is the last thing you want to rush.

Haven't kept up with IOTA (life, etc) so has it launched yet? whats the status of the project?

IOTA has no fees, how does that work? Who will run nodes?

is there a trusted web wallet for claiming?

I think the only reason that they don't cost 30 to 50+ BTC is because this is the first attempt at a Tangle Ledger. I believe that as time passes and the potential of a decentralized ledger using a Tangle instead of a blockchain and all its limitations, Iota increases in value.

It's right where I speculated it would be at this point, and if I'm right again, it will reach a 1 Billion+ marketcap by 2017. As you know more than anyone, it gets more secure as it grows.

Congrats on programming such a genius innovation btw

Yes, no need of an "official" community manager. But what I saw in this thread is some "good will" guys who tried to calm everyone down (including you) and being accused of trolling (and included in the group of annoying real trolls walking around in the thread).
For sure everyone should leave the drama, but please consider yourself to stay calm and leave it too. If we begin to accuse everyone else of trolling, then the real trolls win.
Anyway I'm happy to see that after a good night, your tone is different today compared to yesterday

I promised earlier to donate only for the big deal. Because the foundation became much more important, I made a different decision. That's why claimed and donated to the foundation. I think it is better for all of us. My previous promise becomes herewith invalid.

This is one of the most hilarious and ridiculous posts I have ever read on BtcTalk, lol.  After all the accusations, complaining, etc. etc., you walk away with 20xish profit and now want to thank everyone and say how you will get involved (oops exact just speculate again) after we go to markets. Hahahahahahaha.

I want 25X if the trade happens after the foundation gets funded, but 20X if the deal happens before that is known. Escrow through CfB if he agrees.

I donated my promise!
It was yesterday to BOGTSYSZKVPEJNU9XUSHBNBCNIJDCIDZEZUPMCGOAOGURJLTFFWF9BCAPUCPFRGKHCSYB9TNAGXBYMC RB
Kindest Regards,
Cheers

I asked this question in Telegram a few days ago, the answer from the Wings team was 'probably not'.

What about Wings? Boris also in Wings team.

any estimates when it will be tradable on exchanges? are you guys in talk with any?

Either way something is being included that wasn't mentioned in the ico:
1- 5% premine
2- 5% donation

1- ensures original IOTA investors are part of the future

2- does NOT


which is better for you?

both are new developments that weren't disclosed during the ICO

You didn't read my post did you.

I am perfectly happy to donate my 5%, and will.

BUT, I am NOT happy to have IOTA forked if the target isn't reached, even though I DID donate my 5%.

That's what CfB and David aren't ruling out. Read the thread before you decide who to criticize. You might realise you agree with me.

Do you want to donate your 5% and then lose the other 95% when the target isn't reached?

Would you prefer a 5% premine instead that guarantees the foundation gets funded?

Lots of people wont even be following this thread, or will but wont donate. I AM DONATING!

Just do a 5% premine

I thought I had written it as clear possible, but I'll reiterate: THERE IS NO PREMINE. 999 999 999 is the total amount of iotas that will ever exist. ALL of them are up for sale. The development fund comes from the Bitcoins that we raise.

@CfB, those links didn't restore my faith in the direction you and David seem to want to take IOTA in, but it's your project, so I wish you both well.

I believed I bought tokens for the IOTA network, and I want that network to succeed, and I believe all those who work behind the scenes deserve compensation, and I think a 5% premine is the way to achieve that. Up until a couple of days ago I believed in the direction you guys were headed.

However, things have changed in the last few days. I don't like being handcuffed to a potential outcome I can't control where the 5% target isn't met, so you and David fork IOTA, and even though I paid my 5% donation, my investment in tokens/software is worthless through no fault of my own, and, a new corporatised reboot of IOTA exists that I hold no stake in, even though I sent you bitcoins in good faith.
 

I didn't know about this condition for a 5% community donation for the foundation or you go into partnership with corporates, and it feels most definitely like a threat to me. I understand your time is valuation and needs to be respected, but I used my time to earn money that I sent off to the IOTA ICO, and I don't believe you and David respect that fact, otherwise you wouldn't be raising the possibility of there being a fork that dosn't include the original ICO investors. You're refusal to clarify that matter shows a lack of respect for the original supporters of IOTA.

What makes the situation doubly concerning is the donations are totally unnecessary, as a premine achieves the fund raising outcome we all seem to agree on perfectly well, so as I speculated, I think the reason for your preference for donations is not related to neutralizing the 'bystander effect', but more likely for some other legal reason, which is fine by me, but why wont you guys be upfront? This obfuscation of the facts, combined with David's threatening and insulting tone to supporters like myself recently is a red flag.

I can handle David insulting me and others, but I don't like his chances of navigating the path ahead for IOTA with such an overly macho and immature style. That style from a project manager doesn't work unless he's also the code guy, in which case people have to suffer in silence and put up with the BS. In David's case he'll simply be replaced by a more professional person at a later date, but by then he will have had plenty of time to poison the well with key stakeholders and partners. I've been in business for 20+ years and that's the way it works. Managers can only act like David if they're irreplaceable, and David is easily replaced, so eventually key interests will want him removed, and that's going to be messy. He wont go quietly and will try and lob grenades as he goes. His involvement from here on with IOTA makes the future less certain.

So I am selling a 1% stake in IOTA token supply for a 25x return. If CfB agrees he can act as escrow. That'll leave me with a small stake which I'll gladly donate 5% from. If anyone wants to own 1% of IOTA let me know. I don't agree with what's happening with the foundation funding from donations, but for those who feel comfortable with that, here's a chance to get on board. I know IOTA is not at 25X yet, but when it is I want to move on regardless of what happens from here.

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But, Hees doesn't exactly see consumers interacting with micropayments. Rather, he is about machine-to-machine asset transfers, where machines, whether factory machines or drones, are the ones transferring value

Hees called this ability a "building block" of the Internet of Things and offered the example whereby a machine could purchase resources, like the temperature in another room, based on predefined instructions. The vision is by no means unusual, even for an industry prone to big ideas.