No, VMs have virtual graphics cards, they don't have access to the physical cards. Any miner software running would tell you that there is no card.

Your title strikes out to me.

Good talk and good ideas, a pleasure to listen to.

now about Greece:

Who is going to do this? Who would care to institute a real world currency (be it Bitcoin-backed or gold-backed or whatever) in our country?

Protesters that demand jobs, social benefits and early retirement in an economy that cannot be competitive any more because we just cannot devalue our currency?

Enterpreneurs that demand liquidity (banks have frozen almost all credit lines) for people to be able to borrow and spend again like before?

Politicians that want to save their ass as number 1 priority (and there is no number 2 priority in fact)?

Or bankers that are afraid, not of the shareholders' losses (I don't think they give a shit in fact), but that if they take the long winding road and bear the restructuring costs, next quarters' result will not look good and they stand to lose their high paying jobs, their houses, their cars, their stock options value and their mistresses ?

None of the above would be willing to give up or compromise. Not even for a day as it seems. Though any reasonable person with basic economic knowledge would see that if everybody gives up for a few years on their wish to retain their fiat money benefits, this would open up actual possibilities for recovery and progress.

The above also goes to say that we have been eroded (from the inside) and the cry for freedom and fairness does not necessarily come from a clean inside source, but rather from an already distorted view of reality.

I don't think we're desperate enough for this yet. Having said that, I personally will give it a try at least, as best as I can. Not much you might say, but at least what I can personally guarantee.

All the best.

I can understand your reasoning as well. I have been running an IT business for 10 years now, I know what competition can cause people to do, but what I wrote above fits with my work ethics and principles. So, I'm just voicing my view, as we all do. It's up to the exchange owners to take it into account or not.

I have no problem with Phoenix on Eligius, in fact I get better results with it instead of poclbm (more accepted shares per hour). Connecting from Europe.

Directed to both sides (Tradehill and Bitcoin7):

Having read both sides, I would be hesitant to go either with Tradehill or Bitcoin7.

People who try to prove something about OTHERS on a public forum instead of relying on proving THEMSELVES and their own INTEGRITY through their work and their business, do not seem attractive to me to say the least.

I understand it's competition and there's money involved, but I wouldn't trust my money with someone that goes out of their way to convince me that someone ELSE is NOT trustworthy, unless if I had asked them to give their opinion.

In my view this discussion downplays both of you, and for the sake of your business and the Bitcoin community I would humbly suggest that you refrain from it, and try to promote your exchange in a positive way instead of going with negative comments on competitors. This means not interfering on each other's threads.

I don't even mention the Referral spamming which is getting to be a burden.

I'm not using an exchange yet, but if I need one in the future, I will look for someone who is decent and honourable from start (their 1st post) to finish.

This is written with all respect due to your efforts, which I believe are well intended to start with. And I sincerely hope that we will have many good competing exchanges in the future.

Thanks to all the advice in the thread, I just managed to add an HD5770 in my old office PBX PC (running CentOS and Asterisk) and add a bit to my mining capacity. PBX still functions perfectly as well. I can confirm that things work better with the latest 11.6 driver at least for this card.

A note that might be of help to anyone else trying this:

For some reason, I had to copy all the library files under /root/AMD-APP-SDK-v2.4-lnx32/lib/x86 to /usr/lib. In any other case pyopencl would not load.

Also, since I found out that phoenix miner gets an extra 3-4% out of the card, I installed it and using it. The only addition needed is the Twisted framework which can be installed as easy as:

wget http://twistedmatrix.com/Releases/Twisted/11.0/Twisted-11.0.0.tar.bz2
bunzip2 Twisted-11.0.0.tar.bz2
cd Twisted-11.0.0
python setup.py install
cd ..

Getting 213 MH/s right now, with card at 950,300 and 65 C temp.

Gavin is correct. People with power will always be there - even in an anarchy. Make friends with them by offering them a good deal and they can help you achieve your goals.

Proving experience: I have a client who has been devoted in promoting an alternative medicine field for the last 50 years. His strategy was always to look for the most important people he could find to offer a cure that they or some member of their family would badly need. Because his alternative medicine worked time after time again, he has gained the trust and support of several high-position people worldwide, and his field is now hugely more recognised even by the established medical society who would oppose him like hell in the beginning. I don't want to disclose the details, but if anyone seriously needs them for a good cause, I can provide it.

Possible Bitcoin application of the strategy: Find a deputy/MP in your country that you can approach and try to convince them to accept donations for their campaign in Bitcoins. Tell them that there are so many people that don't know what to do with their Bitcoins, and that he can simply try having nothing to lose. Tell him how he can offer complete transparency with this method. Tell him that he can actually spend the donated Bitcoins to buy services of other people that he needs (thus circulating them and enhancing the effect). Tell him that he might be written in history as a visionary and a hero (Good risk/reward). Ask him to support the Bitcoin idea publicly.

I will try this. In Greece it's not difficult at the moment to convince someone about the futility of fiat currency  . And MPs are in such shit (there's one or two quitting per day) that I tend to think they would try anything.

I'll get back with results, hopefully soon.

Thanks for the idea Gavin.

Error, do you really mean you are not aware of what I wrote in post #4 above? You're a moderator for God's sake, I figured it out on my second day on the forum.

True, and SWIFT sucks. I pay fees of 0.5-1%, I have to submit EVERY TIME anti-money laundering documentation to prove that I am not an elephant, my money disappears for a few days, and they magically appear in the receiver's account. In the meantime, NOBODY can answer where is the money. It's supposed to be "moving". Plus I need to ask EVERY TIME for the bank to send me a receipt.

WAIT!!! Eureka !!! Maybe they are already using Bitcoin and they are waiting for 120 block confirmations !!!!! That's why it takes so long. Bastards...

You can lose a lot of Bitcoins chasing sex.

You will never be short of sexual partners if you are chasing Bitcoins.

Think about it.

NP. Enjoy !

The search box on the top right of the page works exactly in the context where you are right now (breadcrumb shown underneath the tabs).

So click on the thread and then do the search. It will only be in that thread.

I just wanted to post to say a great big THANKS to Luke-Jr and Artefact2 for the excellent work.

Payment method could not be more fair, in my view.

And without a need to create an account, it's one less password to keep safe for me. Pool mining could not be made easier. With all the hacks going on lately, my heart beats faster every time I log in to some other pool's account to check whether my BTC is still there or not.

For all doubters about the payment fairness, I've been mining for 3 weeks on Eligius pools and my total payment is 0.45% smaller than I would expect with my MH/s speed as found on http://bitcoinx.com/profit/ (taking into account my downtime in this period - I keep my own stats - and taking into account the increasing difficulty in the meantime).

So bravo guys, and soon I will be increasing my hashing speed, get some more BTC and send a donation for your great pool.

Point made. However I cannot but wonder, are we really leading a happier life because of all this?

To prevent misunderstanding I only have a question, I don't have the answer yet.

Maybe we will find out during our lifetimes.

And another one that bugs me related to the OP:

Does power beget corruption (as seems to be the case, and Atlas' post suggests)? Or does corruption beget greed which inevitably leads a corrupted person to seek ways to gain power through the easiest means available (entities of centralized control) in order to achieve their corrupted purposes? Which way around does this work? You would be right to think that this is a similar issue to the chicken and egg problem.

A hint for me: A corrupted and malign person would behave as such under any restricting rules or laws or controlling entities. They would actually try to find ways that the restrictions would work for them instead of against them. An honest and decent person would behave as such under any restrictions. Until they find out that the other side always rigs the playing field, in which case they might at least start to doubt themselves, the system and their personal principles and values (unless these are etched indelibly in them).

What is the case in the end? Doesn't it come down to whether someone is honourable or dishonourable? Adding to the human race with their existence or taking away an unfair benefit out of it? Does it matter so much how many systems we can impose so that we can distinguish the two? Or does the last 100 years experiment show that it doesn't really matter in the end? People were still living, eating, working, having families and progressing (although at a seemingly slower pace) before the FDA, FCC, DOE, DOT, EPA, NOAA or whatever these are called in every country.

I don't know, but I can't help wondering about it...

Yes, that's all. Keep an eye on what file you're overwriting every time you do that. It's good if you keep a copy of your wallet.dat somewhere safe (not connected to the Internet) and each time you want to do or register a transaction:

1. Copy your safe wallet.dat to a USB stick.
2. Copy it from the USB stick to the computer running Bitcoin (before you start the client - overwriting any wallet.dat there)
3. Start bitcoin client
4. Make the sending transaction (or wait for your receiver BTC to show up until all blocks are downloaded)
5. Close bitcoin client
6. Copy wallet.dat from computer to USB stick (overwriting the existing one)
7. Copy wallet.dat from USB stick to your safe location (overwriting the existing one)

This way you have at least 2 versions of your correct wallet.dat file at any time, so if you mess up with one (overwriting the wrong version) you still have the other.

That's what I am doing - in addition to making sure that my computer with the bitcoin client is not already infected by trojan, virus or malware.

It doesn't mean much if it's a different URI. The browser needs to be instructed to translate such a URI and then perform DNS resolution to find the target address. Therefore this would have the same results - and problems. Or should we rewrite DNS for our purposes?

I'm as frustrated as you are about the lack of a smart solution, but I don't lose my hope.

A browser plugin is not really possible as DNS is set much deeper in any operating system, and for a good reason. It's the registry in Windows, specific files under /etc in Linux and so on. If a browser would be able to change the DNS resolution process, the Internet would be a much more dangerous place. Hacks galore !!! I run a commercial e-learning site, and within a few months of operation, we already had cases of DNS hijacking of registered clients asking them to pay more money. If the browser would be allowed to be "creative" with DNS, a thousand problems can emerge.


I agree with that, and the possibilities that namecoin offers apart from DNS is its biggest strength. An alternative currency like Bitcoin can and will be very volatile because people can't help hot thinking about it as money, whilst a generic naming service can be extremely valuable (and not only as money) as soon as a killer application is discovered for it.

And BTW, I agree with previous posters that it's only a couple of months old, let's give it a little more time. Think that DNS itself took several years to be finalized and standardized (and it's not considered complete yet).

I run FXCM Trading Station on Ubuntu with Wine. It's a pain to setup but it works fine. I can provide help, if the OP succeeds in their endeavour.

And +1 to the idea and the vision of the OP.

Just to put things into perspective, my wife is currently doing transcripts of videos in English of a rather slow speaking professor, for about 40 EUR per hour of content. She's not a professional BTW, and not a native English speaker either.

You guys speak a bit too fast, although your sentences are much more simple and closer to casual talk, so it might offset the speed. A native speaker also could find it a lot easier, so the price you mention looks reasonable given the depth of the market.

Hope this helps.

And I'm fully with you about spending BTC to spread the word.

The instant response is appreciated and goes to show that you are at least a decent person.

I would not mind the mining, as long as there is reasonable throttling (my CPU fan is a disturbing noise, as I guess is the case for most). I don't really know if it is technically possible to limit CPU usage to say 40%.

Another issue was that I found it hard to distinguish your voices after a while, so I didn't understand who was saying what at certain points. Maybe get a nice female voice to interview Atlas?

I think small donations are the way to go, until you have good enough content to charge PPV (pay-per-view) .Bitcoin is ideal for micropayments.

An added extra for paying customers could be a transcript. Although I said before most of it is not new, there were some sentences by both of you which would have a lot of staying value, even though you might not realize that. And different things would appeal to different listeners.

If it's not clear, I am trying to be encouraging. Donation sent.