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261  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 06:30:22 PM
Guys,

Expecting TZM Global to "endorse" a particular cryptocurrency, is the same as aligning the TZM Global ranks with those of any government over a given traditional currency. This would be plain wrong (given the goals of the TZM), and does not mean in any way that ZeitCoin is domed to fail or even the other way around.

What we should focus on: establishing ZeitCoin as a means to trade amongst those that want an alternative to the traditional markets (bank & politics controlled, etc). The particular emphasis should be on the supporters of the TZM, because the same general principles have given birth to this coin. We need to keep it fair, accessible to all, and focus on the value of the open source concurrency as *one step forward* with making traditional currency obsolete.

Those looking to make a quick buck on mining/trading ZeitCoin should definitely look elsewhere, as the main support group here (and the reasoning exposed on the dev announcement), is to create a long term and community backed currency, and not another pump & dump show. I am currently mining with modest hash rate, and buying some, using less relevant cryptos at the exchange. Will be happy to donate/share to individuals *outside* of the cryptocurrency community, as a way to get more people involved and debating on the merits of an open currency.

PS: Have a great time at ZDAY, make sure you keep the tone positive, and engage as many people as you can into considering what measures the movement can engage with *today*, to move away from the traditional currency methods/abusers/etc. This is what I see that ZeitCoin can offer!  Wink

Cheers,
Myagui

I understand what you are saying, but to accomplish an eco-system, you need to have a community and investors. The zeitgeist movement was and is the only option. Otherwise Zeitcoin is just another cryptocoin. If this doesn't change and you don't get any investors on your side, this coin will slowly die. I'm still hoping that it will be different (haven't sold any coin).

I disagree we can still have an active outside adoption by different organizations accepting our coin. We also have a strong community and that is key if we band together we could have more active people than you'd expect keep in mind a decentralized cryptocurrency is a solid way to ensure fair trade with anyone worldwide which is essentially breaking down borders and putting everyone on the same playing field.

A global free trade equity resource is a very big thing and if our community stays strong and grows we can achieve many things together more than any of can probably imagine at this point.
262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 06:24:23 PM
Any word on the block explorer and coinmarketcap?

Block Explorer is up for now however we need to migrate it to a new server before we release it to the gen public as it will surely crash we put it up there for wrldcoinindex and coinmarketcap which is putting us on there today we believe and we are still waiting to hear back from coinwarz as well as we contacted them today.

There is an unofficial one but it is not keeping up with our chain so i do not want to release it to the public either

give us time once we migrate to the new server and ensure it has enough power to handled constant views/refreshes/as well as having information pulled from it non stop by sites like worldcoin and coinmarket then we will release it
263  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 06:11:18 PM
Our newest video made for us by altcoin authority https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=914qsqBcoCc thanks guys we love it

As far as giveaways and bounties are concerned we will be starting that up tonight we have sorted the wallets and haven't received any negative feedback i.e. issues and what not so that was step 1.

I am focusing today during the day to contact sites like coinwarz etc to get us more exposure to hopefully get more awareness for our coin and focusing on that.

Giveaways and bounties are still going to happen as we have stated however it was eating up too much of our time at the beginning this is a crucial time for a coin and needs to generate a good buzz in this culture which is where we figured we should focus our time.

I am sure anyone that is an active supporter of the coin and wants it to succeed would agree with us. If you are waiting for your bounty to dump it then so be it however we think that is a mistake as there is nowhere for this coin to go but up.

I hope that will satisfy everyone as you know we have done a large amount of the giveaway and bounties already.

Thanks 
264  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 05:02:30 AM
I have a feeling this will just show more of their followers about us lol may be good may be bad time will tell Smiley
265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 04:55:32 AM
http://www.zeit-coin.com/ we have updated all wallets and are working towards instructions for each wallet. Windows instructions are there.

If you need instructions for any please contact us with issues
266  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 04:24:40 AM
I think what we doing embodies the saying "If the mountain won't come to Muhammad then Muhammad must go to the mountain." haha


Hahahahaha exactly
267  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 04:12:09 AM
you have to understand that they dont understand what crypt-currency really means, they will see it like any other currency and associated to the problems of the current system
it needs to be presented as a technology and a way to abstain from using and feeding the current institutions, government and financial.
its a tool, a means to an end, a deliverer of power to the people

so this is wat im sending "Hi there,

Im part of the zeitcoin crypto community, im not sure if your are aware of us or not? but we are trying to make contact with as may TZM groups as possible all over the world to educate and discuss zeitcoin and what it stands for. It appears that there is mixed emotions amongst members of TZM but we find this is due to lack of understanding or knowledge about the crypto world. Please let me know if you or any memebers would be interested in engaging in talks with us. thanks"

that seem ok?

no that seem like an insult to their inteligence

haha ok what should i say? haha I havnt sent it

introduce with explanations of crypto-currency, why its not like traditional trade/money and the intent, motives and purpose of Zeitcoin
and most importantly, why TZM should use it
ok I know what im going to say and see what you mean. guys pls do the same it really isnt hard and shit even if you are just in this for the money atleast do a good deed and help the people who arnt, would be appreciated.

+ 1 I have been talking to a TZM Global Volunteer on facebook

Hopeuflly he sends it along and they start to realize we have purpose and we are passionate
268  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 03:11:04 AM
Zeitcoin Movement Forums ★ Come Discuss The Future Of ZEIT. ★ 1,000 ZEIT Giveaway For Noteworthy Comments! @ZEITCOIN http://altcoinauthority.com/forums/forum/test-forum/
269  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 02:40:08 AM
can we keep this one going so as to notify new miners etc of events and updates, no reason not 2 have 2 forums running! plus can i draw your attention to the fact that every time someone posts here we hang around the top of the notice board and when that happens it shows activity for the coin which sparks interest. A dedicated external forum is great but lets not neglect this one! its done so much for us already.  

Definitely this forum can be used to spread the word of our official one as well as to share the initiatives we tend to start as a collective.

The official forum can be more as a long term place to ensure we maintain different threads for different ideas

We are here to use both and be active I know I will be



+1

edit: eta on wallets?? Cheesy haha

Hahahaha yeah guys i gotta get back to work on those we actually have them done we are just making pages on our website to explain the new website install process



Official forum we will be using through altcoinauthority

http://altcoinauthority.com/forums/forum/test-forum/zeitcoin-movement/
270  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 02:36:31 AM
can we keep this one going so as to notify new miners etc of events and updates, no reason not 2 have 2 forums running! plus can i draw your attention to the fact that every time someone posts here we hang around the top of the notice board and when that happens it shows activity for the coin which sparks interest. A dedicated external forum is great but lets not neglect this one! its done so much for us already.  

Definitely this forum can be used to spread the word of our official one as well as to share the initiatives we tend to start as a collective.

The official forum can be more as a long term place to ensure we maintain different threads for different ideas

We are here to use both and be active I know I will be

271  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 02:28:23 AM
There is no such thing as bad publicity. I expect that you will take heat for sure, but again invite them to join us in a debate, just say to them great we need your opinion on our forum so that our members may better understand where you are coming from! stroke egos do what you need todo but just get them here so they can see one of the best communities that exists on the crypto world.

Also in terms of the value of zeit, the way the coin is structured will make sure that it increases in value for sure, the only thing that TZM would have done was catapult it forward but then may a draw your attention to AUR and whats happening that side. Also what im realising now, from what one member said, many TZM members dont do much hense the low activity on their fb page, so if TMZ did take a better stance i feel we would have gone through a honey moon period but then shit would have hit the fan (excuse the french), however if we as a community make contacts and connections this would be way more beneficial. Its like choosing to work for someone or work for yourself, yes working for someone has its benefits but at the end of the day someone else always gets the credit and u earning someone else more money but its safer. working for yourself is high risk but the rewards are greater and no one in the crypto scene is here because they wanted to play things safe, your money was better off being spent else where if thats the case haha ZEIT FOR THE WIN  

+1

We our having an official forum made I will notify everyone to come there and we can discuss everything from donations, to support, and any other initiative we come to find is proactive as a collective.
272  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 02:26:02 AM
Are we a charity coin or are we a Zeitgeist Movement coin?

being in line with what TZM purpose is or what TZM advocates is very different.



We can be both cant we we can discuss where to donate our resources to to help move humanity forward can be many things including new technologies but also feeding the poor is there really a defining line where we should stop or should we actively promote the bettering of humanity by donations considering we are a currency we can take the same approach yet utilize our core basis which is our crypto currency
273  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 02:16:20 AM
Definitely I believe you are on the perfect path That is our intentions I feel we will get alot of heat there however that is what is about.

We will be making an official forum and would be a great place to invite global members to join us and become part of our moving humanity forward initiatives.
274  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 02:05:55 AM
Read the email response the member I was talking to said to me can you believe thats their stance

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Oh believe me, I know. I'm not too happy about how dramatic this has been made to look. I made it very clear to Peter that no one has lied - that we were in fact in discussion about you guys attending ZDay with a booth. TZM Global is saying they were never asked - so I responded that I had forwarded all the info you sent me to the core team in Toronto (of which I am a member). From there, one of my fellow core members said he forwarded it on to the global team for approval. When I asked to be looped into that email thread, he told me legally he had no obligation to do so (legally!!). And thats the last I heard about it until now. And now the global members are saying they weren't informed….

This will be the last of my participation with TZM Toronto - organizing this has been a total eye opener for me. I'm really sorry that they took your approaching us as a threat. I really think your intensions are honest and have nothing to do with fraud.

If you want you can volunteer with us and that will get you into ZDay for free and easier access to having open discussions with people about your concept.
275  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 02:04:25 AM
The response I received from the global communicator from Toronto

Very interesting

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Oh believe me, I know. I'm not too happy about how dramatic this has been made to look. I made it very clear to Peter that no one has lied - that we were in fact in discussion about you guys attending ZDay with a booth. TZM Global is saying they were never asked - so I responded that I had forwarded all the info you sent me to the core team in Toronto (of which I am a member). From there, one of my fellow core members said he forwarded it on to the global team for approval. When I asked to be looped into that email thread, he told me legally he had no obligation to do so (legally!!). And thats the last I heard about it until now. And now the global members are saying they weren't informed….

This will be the last of my participation with TZM Toronto - organizing this has been a total eye opener for me. I'm really sorry that they took your approaching us as a threat. I really think your intensions are honest and have nothing to do with fraud.

If you want you can volunteer with us and that will get you into ZDay for free and easier access to having open discussions with people about your concept.


TZM using legally wtf is this movement becoming
276  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 02:01:00 AM
would it be safe to say that zeit coin is faction within the true goal/idea of TZM, seeing as how our end goal is very similar and there are active TZM members within zeit coin?

I definitely think so also how can they dismiss this without direct communications? I do not understand did you read their response...

Ridiculous

I don't even have words

The Zeitgeist Movement Global
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Want to use CryptoCurrency? Go to Bitcoin. Have fun. In abstraction, it has its role. Howver, TZM has a very different focus and we need to make sure that focus is clear. There is no reason to support a Zeitgeist CrytoC. It is a waste of time, especially since there are numerous other CCs out there already. The only reason it says "Zeit" is to exploit the movement's following. Period
277  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 01:59:09 AM
A quick google search came up with this list of organizations and charities that accept Bitcoin. Perhaps some of them might consider accepting Zeitcoin as well. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Donation-accepting_organizations_and_projects

That is a great start thank you we will be looking into this in the next while if anyone would like to join us and officially represent us with these charities we are a community we urge you to do so.
278  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 01:48:13 AM
I apologize what I meant by our own movement is not working against TZM but working withing their ideals by using this currency to move humanity forward.

A movement is simply a bunch of like minded individuals all working towards the same goal
279  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 01:41:26 AM
Agreed here is my official Statement "ZEIT will now put aside 100 Million coins to be dispersed to the charities/organizations/movements that us as a community see fit to donate to."



Wallet will be shown soon once I decide where our communal wallet will go with balance and we will also be asking for small donations from the community after we start to run through our 100 Million

Any suggestions on how we can achieve our next steps please email me directly zeit@zeit-coin.com
280  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZEIT] ZEITCOIN -- 5 EXCHANGES POW/POS 11 Ghs Nethash on: March 06, 2014, 01:36:05 AM
Yup welcome to the next regulated movement that will turn into an organization and then eventually a conglomerate that is TZM'S path
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