@prominer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BinWA0EenDY

 


just wait when the Bitcoin whales and bagholders start panicdumping their Bitcoin on the Uno market

remember their 'glitch' last year where they sold down all of the market and then reversed transactions and removed the data!?

Never forget that!

Everyone who panicsold into it had executed trades. People who bought had trades reversed.

Get the freakin coins out of there!

In case vern plays tricks or dumps it: remain calm

yes, three of them actually  
(you must be refering to the exclusive one with the snobs and scammers, the other two are inclusive ones as far as i can see)

Did you still not managed to blow it up?

Why does this take so long?

Hardfork drama will take us to 10$, maybe even lower. 

Look for alternatives is the best you can do.

sitting in front of this volatility and do nothing all year is probably the worst you can do

Selling at a loss isn't a problem as long as you get back in cheaper
Buying high isn't a problem as long as you can sell higher.

Generally rule of thumb: trend is your friend

-and never act out!-

trade with the brain, not with the gut

exactly 

when you panic: always try to panic before everyone else does.

Panicing early makes you profit.

I panic often - and i like it 

Forking it up? Everything gone with the wind?

lol 'stepping up'

Someone needs to say something. Announcing hardfork on twitter?! Thank you very much   (announcing to the world before even asking people about opinion)

Been tweeting this.
https://twitter.com/shitcoinbuster/status/563511839846187008


He's apparently offline. Maybe he likes the idea and we can have a less heated and more relaxed sailing  
(I've had enough stress last months)

I don't believe crypto always works how people are used to the world working.
I think the scaling attempt is idiotic and there will be serious opposition from the libertarian/anarchist wing and the actually sane people.
Maybe it is like you say to enable some people to move in but on the other hand they loose their face and everything with a fork without consensus(they loose the philosophers). There is so much that speaks against it. This scaling attempt is going to backfire because it hasn't been tought trough enough. I am firmly convinced if they don't drop it and Gavin really pushes through with it and even if it's successful and Gavincoin becomes the dominant chain (which isn't sure by any means) bitoin will be a shitcoin. Scale maybe - but no users, no appeal, bad press, investors are going to hate it. It can likely crash. 'scaling' sounds nice ... but at what costs?
I will be unable to use it with my current hardware as soon as 1 year down the road. That can't be it. Normal people are not going to upgrade their computers just to use the internet funny money 'bitcoin' when there's altcoins available that use much less systemrecources. Again: 20MB blocks!!!! (crazy)
People not only need upgradet hardware all the time they also need to upgrade their internet provider! Btc becomes unavailable on all wireless connections too.
It's maybe scalable but inaccessible! Why scale when nobody uses it?! The fork is the proposal of a moron.
And the next hardfork soon again. Bitcoin will loose all support from current bagholders over time if they go on like that. They have some hubris over there it's not even funny. People even suspect gov-plants that push for the fork. Suspicions of astroturf. Man, it's chaos. I don't believe in btc anymore before it's not in a confirmed bullmarket. It can likely drop to 10$ with this management.
Just my personal opinion. When i sell uno for btc, i move btc directly over to other exchange and sell them for fiat. I don't need to hold that coin right now.
I've been following that hardfork discussion closely and been reading all pro's and con's and it's a nightmare.
So many unknown factors. So much that can go wrong. Majority supports it but they don't have good arguments and don't listen to minority. Gavin is not going to drop it. It's internal warfare. If that breaks loose full on it is going to take a long time to win back investors confidence if it doesn't actually sink the Titanic for good.

What sense makes a FUD campaign to maybe let few people buy cheap coins when afterwards the image is destroid? They would be better off buying a little higher but actually have an intact image. This whole thing is looking very chaotic. I don't take the risk on bitcoin right now.
Again: i have been reading almost all related texts and all comments - pro and con
Some people are really upset about it - me included.

That scaled up bitcoin version is not viable longterm imo. Not even short/midterm most likely. (maybe i'm not right but that's the assessment to the best of my knowledge - i am already alienated to my bones by it. I don't want to use bitcoin anymore! Crypto yes, bitcoin no.)

Bitcoin is on a linear downtrend and not on an exponential uptrend - that's the reality. Bearmarket now 14 months and still going strong. I don't see a bottom anytime soon.

BW chat will likely occure on reddit later and will last at least a few days (that was the word on twitter from him.) So i don't think you'll miss out. 

he's probably reading and one day make an appearance. Or maybe something happened to him 

We can use reddit more often actually.

would require :

-DUO has different metrics and also different rewardstructure
-multicoinwallet does not break backwards copatibility of the current wallet
(then i'd be more than happy)

true. Will we accept Mpcoin or Gavincoin? (this question is not a joke)

currently there is only the risk of the question arising with the hardfork without consenus on btc: which 'Bitcoin'? Gavincoin or Mpcoin? Man, there is some potential real chaos on the horizon for btc if you ask me. It could potentially become unsafe to accept merged blocks from btc chain after the harfork of btc. So i am not so sure about it.

There's a lot of unease and many people shouting at each other over at btc. I think there's a fair chance it's not going to end well. Lot's of movement and heated discussion over at camp bitcoin.

(remember the titanic - they also said it would be unsinkable)

+1
i would currently also not be up for a hardfork even for merge mining because in case bitcoin bites the dust due to the hardfork without consensus (i think at least 30% chance for that) or because investors just scratch their head and want out because of that and it crashes and burns we will only grow with that chaos around bitcoin. Right now the situation is much different than it was when we last time discussed it. So right now i would vote against any hardfork.



yes, betatest please
Snapshot uno for merge coin is maybe a good idea (on the other side wouldn't that mean we would have a mirror of it? Do we want a twin-coin? Isn't there a risk to dilute Uno value? That needs to be thought about.) - or other idea we can make a snapshot of uno and have a let's say 5% premine of the new coin and that get's distributed according to snapshot but the coin should have very different metrics (more coins for example) ... there's some ideas there to discover.

All in all i think: sidechains can't do even half as good as a merged mined coin. What about launching a new chain like DUO and implement sidechains there aswell as AUXPOW? I would support such a coin a lot - it would bring hash, bryce can play with sidechains, uno doesn't need to fork, we have good publicity, everyone is happy as it only brings benefit and almost no risk in case the experiment fails only the other chain fails. It would also be fun to speculate on it. I  wouldn't want it to have in uno and hardfork and all that shenangians and useless risks. Please create a new coin for the sidechain experiment and auxpow it against uno and give Uno holders a 5% premine according to their uno holdings! (isn't this idea just brilliant?)