In case you're wondering, someone understood what you meant by this and found it hilarious.

ISIS is pro-Israel? What colour is the sky in your world?

I'd like it if Hamas and ISIS fought each other. It's best if all Muslim terrorist groups in the world fight each other. It's like the Iran-Iraq war in the 80s.

The only problem is that sometimes one of the groups emerge stronger from the experience.

It's good to see we have a wide range of opinions on the matter. It goes from nobody-destroying-Israel to of-course-Israel-will-be-destroyed-it's-part-of-a-nefarious-Jewish-plot!

If you're of the second opinion, then I suppose my promise can be interpreted as resistance against a nefarious Jewish plot. (Or maybe that only follows if one believes in evil logic, a subject which has been perverted by centuries of Judische influence. /s)

Some of you need to talk to a mental health professional about your fixation on international Jewish conspiracies.

If Israel is destroyed by Iran, I fully expect many people to push Bryant Coleman's view that the Israelis destroyed themselves. The groundwork for that point of view has been laid over decades.

So...no statistics on the average caloric intake of modern Gazans.

Anyway, it's clear there's no way to convince you the in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict the Israelis are acting nothing like the Nazis. (If the Israelis ever do start acting like the Nazis, trust me, you'll notice the difference.) I hope that some other people who've bought into the Israelis-as-Nazis idea will read a bit about the Nazis and learn the difference.

Regarding the "Never again...to us," Israeli policy has never involved genocide, so the addition of "to us" is unnecessary in that sense. On the other hand, I think plenty of Jews know that they can't rely on anyone else to prevent another genocide of the Jews. This thread is evidence of that.

Here's a little fact about the Warsaw Ghetto from that Wikipedia article:


Goddamn. Not enough Nazis died in that war. It's disturbing that there are still so many around.

Are there any statistics on the average calorie intake of modern Gazans?

First: some of the most anti-Israel people in the world are Jewish. It's confusing that people equate defense of Israel to Judaism.

I recommend people read about the Warsaw Ghetto:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto

I don't see similarities to Gaza.

1. Gaza has a border with a third country, Egypt. Warsaw was completely under Nazi occupation at the time of the Warsaw Ghetto.

2. Palestinians haven't been rounded up and put into Gaza. Some Palestinians stayed in Israel when it was founded. Some left to the surrounding areas (not just Gaza). Some of their descendants are in Gaza now. (Of course, some Palestinians were already in Gaza.) The Israelis have not "concentrated" the Palestinians in Gaza and closed it off. There are Palestinians in Israel, the West Bank, Jordan, and probably still in Syria and Lebanon. (I haven't checked the stats on Syria and Lebanon in a while.)

3. Gaza is not ruled by a council of Gazans/Palestinians who are collaborating with the Israelis in a misguided attempt to avoid conflict. The Ghettos during the time of the Nazis used a Judenrat (Jewish Council) to "govern" the ghettos. Gaza, on the other hand, is ruled by Hamas, mortal enemies of Israel.

4. Finally, Palestinians aren't being rounded up by hundreds of thousands and sent to labour camps bound for extermination, and I see zero likelihood of this happening. The only way I can imagine hundreds of thousands of Gazans possibly being killed is as a side effect of one of the anti-Israel groups nuking Israel. If that happens, Palestinian supporters will be too busy celebrating to care about a million or so dead Gazans.

Can you point me to an article that argues the two are similar? I did a search and found an article by Al Jazeera that argues the comparison isn't accurate.

http://www.aljazeera.com/focus/crisisingaza/2009/02/20092191518941246.html

I'm not sure if referencing Al Jazeera will help my case or just convince people that Al Jazeera is run by The Jews.

Fuck. I'm glad I'm not British. If I were, we might end up voting for the same people.

I wouldn't do it as a crusade. The best way would be to target the human reproductive system using nanotechnology. After making the promise I put some thought into it. I don't deny that I'm fucking insane. But I suspect I'm more sane than most of the world which is made up by mother fucking insane people.

By the way, Prince Phillip of England once said that if reincarnation is real he hopes he comes back as a deadly virus to solve the overpopulation problem, implying he would like to kill off most of the human race simply because they exist. That seems more insane than me. At least I'm basing my promise on a hypothetical second genocide.


It's a way of saying the two concepts are independent of each other. Neither implies the other. If you think of a map (a cartesian plane), you can go to the west, go to the north, or go to both the north and the west at the same time. You can't go to the east and west at the same time.

For a less mathematical example, being old and being male are independent in this sense. There are young men, there are old men, there are young women and there are old women. (This isn't a perfect example since women tend to live slightly longer than men.)

Here are two concepts that are not orthogonal/independent: being a bachelor and being male. If someone's a bachelor, then they're male by definition. One implies the other.

Well, that was true when I was younger. The definitions of "bachelor" and "male" may have changed since then.


I won't deny being an extremist. Being delusional is hard to assess if one is delusional. Pink Floyd explained this well at the beginning of Dark Side of the Moon. "It's very hard to explain why you're a madman. Even if you're not a madman."

In the Palestine vs. Israel thread when intelligent people posted based on actual information, I often responded reasonably. In some cases they were right and I was oversimplifying. A specific case: at some point I said the only special power the U.S. had at the U.N. was the veto at the security council. Someone pointed out that the U.S. is responsible for a large portion of the U.N.'s funding and could withhold it. That's a special power I'd ignored.

On the other hand, if someone says, "the Jews are parasites" or "the Jews treat the Palestinians as bad as/worse than the Nazis treated Jews." Those people are evil idiots. Fuck 'em. I'm perfectly fine with wishing them death in a fire. I'm biased against evil idiots. I'm OK wth that.

I'm not a fan of taxation at all, but maybe there should be an idiot tax.

If you're an idiot, half the stuff you have gets taken.

If you're a fucking idiot, all your stuff gets taken.

If you're such a mother fucking idiot that you join ISIS, all your stuff gets taken and you get dropped out of a plane without a parachute.

This really isn't true. The only way someone can believe this is if they believe either:

1. There weren't millions of Jews systematically rounded up in Europe, starved and exterminated.

or

2. The Israelis are systematically rounding up millions of Palestinians, starving them, and exterminating them.

or both.

The evidence clearly shows millions of Jews were systematically killed by the Nazis and their collaborators. The evidence also clearly shows that the number of Palestinians killed in conflicts over the past hundred years is nowhere near a million. Not only that, Palestinians live as citizens within Israel and have for decades.

I know there are some intelligent people who read this thread and side with the Palestinians against Israel. I wonder how they feel when they notice most of the people on their side are idiots who think the modern treatment of Palestinians by the Israelis is comparable to what the Nazis did to the Jews. It has to be uncomfortable.

Getting back on topic, does anyone know where David Allan Coe was on September 11?

Come to think of it, "Don't Bite the Dick that Fucks You" seems like the perfect NWO song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlUe8mvm7ZA

As long as Israel doesn't get destroyed, there's nothing to worry about. And nobody here is advocating destroying Israel, right? clear throat

Anyway, being delusional and being extreme are orthogonal. Someone can be one, the other, neither or both.

Poor guy. You can't have your rally in a Jewish neighborhood. The good news for you is that it's still taking place -- tomorrow at Richmond Terrace, Whitehall. Make sure to bring molotov cocktails. And remember, molotov cocktails are more effective if you douse yourself in alcohol first. Enjoy!

Man, you're hard to pin down. You were Greek Golden Dawner, then a Confederate, and now an English BNPer. I guess wherever there are Jews to blame, you'll be there. Like the Nazi variant of a guardian angel.

A good friend of mine named Steve Goodman wrote that conspiracy theory.

Ah yes, quoting a Holocaust denier who believes the world is ruled by secret lizard people. You're on the right subforum.

I hope this doesn't cause a backlash against teenage girls. It's an isolated incident. In general, teenage girls are peaceful people who are an important part of our society.

The fact that she tried to join a terrorist group like ISIS implies she must not be a true teenage girl. Every true teenage girl believes in peace.

Actually, the confederate flag is an improvement. His previous avatar was the form of swastika used by Greece's Golden Dawn (the Greek Nazi party). You can still see it here if you're interested:

https://web.archive.org/web/20150516183014/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1031863.0

I have mixed feelings about saddampbuh. I mean, don't get me wrong, he's a Nazi who should die in a fire, like all Nazis. But, on the other hand, most of the Nazis on bitcointalk.org are too ill-informed to know they're Nazis. So I have to give him some credit. He's well-informed enough to know he's a Nazi.

Or maybe these posts are all just a sick joke to him. I have to hope some of the most extreme Jew hatred on this forum is trolls playing games. I'm pretty sure that's true for the users "Dick Trump" and "Adolf Hitler" who've posted in the past few months.

By the way, the "Der Ewige Jude" poster in his first post is explicitly Nazi propaganda. It's German for "the eternal Jew" -- one of Hitler's famous talking points. saddampbuh summarized this talking point of Hitler quite well above:


As for the thread, I'm extremely skeptical of both the claim that all HRCs "top donors" are "Jew" and the outlet "The Daily Stormer". In any case, most of her "donations" are via their "charity" and likely come from governments from around the world...the ones who want favors.

Anyway, hope I didn't distract you guys too much. Feel free to get back to blaming everything on The Eternal Jew. Hope you enjoy your next rally and no one starts a fire! (Just kidding. I totally hope someone starts a fire.)

As a little aside, am I the only one who suspects Muhammed Zakir isn't even Muslim? This might just be a bizarre elaborate marketing scheme for bit-x. Or for Bruce Lee.

Yes, I do know the comments. They were listed in a secret subpeona that got leaked. More info, along with explanations why the comments are not threats and perfectly legal can be found here:

https://popehat.com/2015/06/08/department-of-justice-uses-grand-jury-subpoena-to-identify-anonymous-commenters-on-a-silk-road-post-at-reason-com/

One example is:
This is a deontological statement, a statement about how the world should be. A threat would look like, "I am going to shoot this judge." None of the comments were of this form.

Here is another example:
Really? It's illegal to say that? That's a "threat"?

Something's wrong with people who defend this kind of tyrannical overreach by government prosecutors.


No, but retroactive paranoia is notoriously ineffective.

Suppose Alice and Bob both run Bitcoin full nodes. Alice is paranoid and runs her node over Tor. Bob thinks she's nuts and runs his in the clear. He doesn't believe there's any risk that a tyrannical government will use the fact that he runs a Bitcoin node to target him and use it as an excuse to punish him (perhaps for something unrelated in his personal life, like multiple visits to an island with Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein).

Two futures are possible:

Alice is right. Bob goes to prison and Alice doesn't.
Bob is right. Neither goes to prison. Bob gets to keep fucking kids with Bill Clinton.

In both possible futures Alice was the prudent one, not to mention that Bob was a pedo who should be taken out back and shot and end up in a special place in hell.

PS: tvbcof beat me to the punch with his "two basic possibilities" post above. I should've typed faster.

You're probably right. Yesterday I was probably extra paranoid because I saw the story that commenters on an article at Reason about the Silk Road were being targetted by a government prosecutor. In the light of the morning, I can see it's a little outlandish to think that the government will start targetting people because they ran a bitcoin full node. That would be like government revenue agencies targetting people because of their political activism. We're fortunate enough to live in a time and place when that sort of thing doesn't happen.

/s