what happens if Micon loses the case, will SwCpoker stop its operation?
I don't think so. Before he left, he said some other people were working on the site and his case will not affect the operation of the site. But incase they make a deal to clear him for shutting down the site, then I wouldn't know.
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Just read on the same article that he did not get funded from the Gofundme link due to undisclosed reasons . That doesn't sound good for him.
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I am in the UK. Yes, they contacted me via email with a Cease and Desist letter attached in PDF format. They certainly mean business. I think a war on bitcoin gambling has begun.
I would like to see what happens incase one of the gambling sites(not in UK) does not agree to their request. I really doubt they will do anything, but would still be nice to see. If their threats work and are serious, I see US implementing a similar law soon.
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If it actually works I still doubt it would work for long. I am not sure how current mixers work, but instead of forwarding and dividing through thousands of wallets, they could just use their own money to be the output of the mixer which would in no way link the initial wallet. So it will be the same as being completely anonymous .
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I take it as positive that UK based online casinos will need a license to operate in UK and its territory.This will make the casinos owners more responsible and also will help to reduce fraudulent activities.These online casinos must be operated under some rules and regulations to be more trustworthy.
Yes that is certainly true , but it will also be bad for bitcoin unless any of the licensed casinos start accepting it. The current laws would restrict bitcoin accepting gambling sites from growing. I also feel the gambling section on the forum proves that it is what finds one of the biggest use for bitcoin(even though it wasn't intended for it) and restricting that face will have a negative impact on bitcoin to some extent.
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It is a shame, I have seen a few threads promoting new poker focused sites accepting btc the most recent PM Poker which looks promising but then I was the only player in the whole site for quite a while, it is hard for these sites to get off the ground.
A major part of that for those sites depend on their software . A lot of them who use mavens just like the old Swc haven't been much famous no matter what offers they have. The new sites are just dividing the already less traffic more and more and its hardly generating any one of them any revenue. Why don't PokerStars and FullTilt offer web-based bitcoin poker websites?
Missed this question before. Actually they are going to be soon including bitcoin as a deposit option. You can still someway play by depositing on neteller with bitcoin and then using that to fund your Stars account.
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I wonder about the same question and its hard to arrive at an answer. These sites dont have enough money to offer big guaranteed tournaments, dont have enough trust behind them to offer a sense of security, dont have enough players to lure people in.
Building a succeseful btc site is hard, its not the same as producing yet another dice clone.
Pokerstars have a lot of issues (especcially after the new management came in), but they are still the king when it comes to online poker.. And i dont see btc poker coming anywhere close to their level in the next 10 years or so.
But ultimately Pokerstars does not allow US players to play on its platform. Neither do most of the other big poker sites. Where would all those players play ? Its not easy to find live games in every city and the only option is bitcoin online poker. There should still be enough traffic from those players, but its not there.
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if they are playing 24 hours a day it safe to assume they arent humans and could be bots deployed by the site on the other hand they could be just normal people looking to play some poker no need to accuse the site yet we need evidence if it is true ...
Not necessarily site bots. They could also be bots deployed by users. Have seen some poker bots over at seals as well in the past. As for evidence , I doubt there ever can be any evidence, except for collection of data from the hands which could point to foul play.
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Is DirectBet really a UK site? I had no idea, us Brits just expect everything good to not be British lol. The UK doesn't normally produce anything that's good quality especially seeing as though bitcoin gambling sites are kind of pioneering in the sense that there are only maybe 10 that are of high quality. So Michelle @ DirectBet can you confirm if you guys are UK based? A lot of people said that their servers are based in the UK, so that might be the reason. But if I was them, I would probably move out of the country so as to continue having a large customer base. Maybe they might take some time to see how much of the business is affected and then make necessary changes.
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ahh, internet has no borders..why should somebody host his site in UK, if they had such regulations? for bitcoin sites, I don't see any issue at all here..fortunately.)
It did have some affect on bitcoin sites. Directbet and Fairlay seems to have blocked UK based IP's already .
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Yes its true . even I can't login using my UK based Ip. Had to use tor .
Seems it is indeed true. I just read this on another thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=308793.msg11628622#msg11628622The UK Gambling Commission has written to online sportsbooks, bookmakers and casinos telling them to block anyone with a UK IP address. Already, Direct Bet and the Fairlay Bitcoin betting exchange have implemented this today. It's outrageous.
It does seem they have locked out UK customers primarily for this reason. I can't however find any news about this online.
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The UK Gambling Commission has written to online sportsbooks, bookmakers and casinos telling them to block anyone with a UK IP address. Already, Direct Bet and the Fairlay Bitcoin betting exchange have implemented this today. It's outrageous.
couldnt users do just like they do on primedice and use a vpn though? seems like theres a loophole for almost everything these days Yes they can login using VPN and TOR . I couldn't find any news article relating to the info however, but does seem UK users have been locked out. But I also see Pokerstars starting to open a sportsbook in the UK just recently: http://uk.pokernews.com/news/2015/05/pokerstars-sports-betting-offering-goes-live-in-the-uk-17854.htmSeems they will be setback as well.
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Can you please explain why you can no longer accept bets from UK IP addresses?
Are you sure about this ? I haven't ever since an announcement about this before. I don't think UK has very strict laws for this when it comes to sportsbooks . US would probably be the first country to be blocked if they did. I seems to have missed this information, is Directbet a licensed sportsbook?
Nope, and I doubt any of the bitcoin sportsbooks are licensed.
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Yes, this is correct but always have a "safe" card on hand and be prepared for the barista to sometimes say "sorry sir your card is no good because it has been shut down. we dont know why so please call sbx for more information."
Could there be an legal implications of this ? Or at the most they would just reject the card and ask us to use another mode of payment ? I am actually interested in trying one of these cards out. Also do these work online ? I have 10 dollars on a safe card, and the rest on all seperate cards. Never have it all one 1 card, because if that one gets closed, you will lose it all.
Assuming that I load one of these cards onto a mobile app. Would it also affect other cards I have on the same app ? EDIT: I just did lot of research and have answers to some part the question except for "Could there be an legal implications of this ? Or at the most they would just reject the card and ask us to use another mode of payment ? "
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Still looking for WMZ . If you have something to offer , let me know.
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Any reason why you wish to risk selling bitcoins for Neteller except for the small +3% , when you can just deposit on Neteller with BTC directly ?
Here you will unnecessarily be risking money as Neteller is reversible in cases of Fraud.
Neteller its reversible like paypal? Yes, if a stolen credit card is used to fund a Neteller account, then the transaction can be reversed. the only reason to me is she need clean cash if you deposit bitcoins into neteller you cant withdraw at ATMs or pay using Net+ Mastercard
That is something new for me. That seems like a legit reason for this thread. Doing a trade with someone trusted should be fine then. I wonder if it can be abused if someone created 2 Neteller accounts and deposited with BTC on one and transferred fund to another which he could then use for ATM's.
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Any reason why you wish to risk selling bitcoins for Neteller except for the small +3% , when you can just deposit on Neteller with BTC directly ?
Here you will unnecessarily be risking money as Neteller is reversible in cases of Fraud.
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Parlays are tough ... 15 picks only to have one lose should be interesting. but when you win you win big
You don't have to put 15 games in one betslip to win a parlay . Most of the times you can just put 3-4 games and get odds upto 10x. I feel parlays are not worth it as it basically just means compounding single bets. You could just bet one by one of games you are confident about. Nice to see that Spain game win Ajax.
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