lol I hope that's sarcastic! it's that e-whore Kayden that begs for tips on her (his) twitter and facebook accounts!! I find it really interesting that out of you twats that are stalking me for no discernible reason, the only people that have added me as facebook friends or circles are both online Trannies bahahahahahahaa. Really highlights the mentallity of you bellends!!  Keep it up Fuckstick. It'll give us all reason to follow your actions and be a general pain in your twat for the rest of your life. I will don't you worry you little fucking cunt, I won't be happy until the price drops to 0 where it should be and all you annoying fucking dickheads go back to your potato peeling factories or whatever it is you do for day jobs. Remember, you've been outed as blatantly and provably fudding for cheaper coins. It's time to change your song, the old one has been exposed. No I haven't Bitcycle you fucking TWAT! Without all of your swearing, you're just an argumentative bitch. And you don't swear Corather??? You are a first class hypocrite. Your posts, which have no substance are taking the so-called reputation of the Uro, and Nilesh Nair and Bohan Huang, into the hole with you! OMG say it ain't so! OMG! Shut the fuck up you fucking piece of worthless pubic hair. Now go cry on your forums because I swore at you. Hypocrite having a temper tantrum?? You do a fine job of making the Uro seem credible! You are such a good model for the Uro. Makes the Uro seem like a highly reputable coin having people like you trying to promote it. |
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lol I hope that's sarcastic! it's that e-whore Kayden that begs for tips on her (his) twitter and facebook accounts!! I find it really interesting that out of you twats that are stalking me for no discernible reason, the only people that have added me as facebook friends or circles are both online Trannies bahahahahahahaa. Really highlights the mentallity of you bellends!! Keep it up Fuckstick. It'll give us all reason to follow your actions and be a general pain in your twat for the rest of your life. I will don't you worry you little fucking cunt, I won't be happy until the price drops to 0 where it should be and all you annoying fucking dickheads go back to your potato peeling factories or whatever it is you do for day jobs. Remember, you've been outed as blatantly and provably fudding for cheaper coins. It's time to change your song, the old one has been exposed. No I haven't Bitcycle you fucking TWAT! Without all of your swearing, you're just an argumentative bitch. And you don't swear Corather??? You are a first class hypocrite. Your posts, which have no substance are taking the so-called reputation of the Uro, and Nilesh Nair and Bohan Huang, into the hole with you! |
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Why don't you stick your dick in your ear and fuck what you heard Truthful.
Invalid argument! Confirmation, you don't have an... ear. Because you don't hear anything anyone ever tells you. It's a free world. You chose what you want to listen to and do. So do I. Why would I listen to someone who treats others so poorly? And makes up lies about them? I do chose to say that ripping people off is not acceptable. You can learn a lot from yourself. Corather, now you're beginning to understand yourself!! Good to know that you are reflecting on your poor behaviour! I haven't sworn at you or tried to belittle you. You have, but maybe you are beginning to examine yourself. That's good, good on you! changs sworn enough to cover all of you! I don't know where you get the "all of you" from??? I don't know Chang or anybody else. You want to shift your poor behaviour onto some other person...tut, tut, do you take any responsibility? Being responsible is another area you can look into as far as learning about yourself. Be good for you! Thought your puppeteer, Nilesh Nair (True-Asset) demanded that you don't respond to my posts! The supposed multi-million dollar business owner who knows (not) all about how shipping deals are recorded or where to find them, especially since he's done (not) so many of these deals, will get mad at you! LOL Aren't you under his control??? |
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Why don't you stick your dick in your ear and fuck what you heard Truthful.
Invalid argument! Confirmation, you don't have an... ear. Because you don't hear anything anyone ever tells you. It's a free world. You chose what you want to listen to and do. So do I. Why would I listen to someone who treats others so poorly? And makes up lies about them? I do chose to say that ripping people off is not acceptable. You can learn a lot from yourself. Corather, now you're beginning to understand yourself!! Good to know that you are reflecting on your poor behaviour! I haven't sworn at you or tried to belittle you. You have, but maybe you are beginning to examine yourself. That's good, good on you! |
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Why don't you stick your dick in your ear and fuck what you heard Truthful.
Invalid argument! Confirmation, you don't have an... ear. Because you don't hear anything anyone ever tells you. It's a free world. You chose what you want to listen to and do. So do I. Why would I listen to someone who treats others so poorly? And makes up lies about them? I do chose to say that ripping people off is not acceptable. |
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I have pointed out quite a few pages ago that commercial invoices can ONLY be in FIAT.
Customs want a proof of the value of shipment on which to apply their duty taxes.
And it is even harder than this: usually (obligatory in my business) you need to have an international auditor inspecting the cargo to verify quality and value which needs to be verified to avoid any false declarations of value (over-priced to allow individuals to take out USD commissions or under-priced to avoid paying customs).
So any Urea Seller can only declare the proper USD value of the shipment.
How the Seller collects payment is another matter. It can very well settle the payment in UROs and can even arrange for credit for as long as it wants.
With one minor detail: it will have to explain to the tax authorities where the difference between Commercial Invoice in USD and payment in URO has gone. Covering the loss between USD/URO is one thing, covering the tax man for millions of tax evasion is another (bad) thing.
Bottom line is that Invoices / Freight documents can NOT verify that any shipment is paid in URO (or any other coin for that matter) and that the seller has some VERY creative accounting to do.
Keeping an open mind and not being a know-it-all I leave a small probability that businessmen smarter than me have figured out brilliant, game-changer methods.
May be GES already figured this out?  How come the other so-called NIER's are never mentioned?? |
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Why don't you stick your dick in your ear and fuck what you heard Truthful.
Invalid argument! |
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Update on Rivaa's first shipment paid with URO (please a couple of my very reasonable requests for active community participation): - "Port of Loading: Assaluyeh Port, Iran, as the shipment is on FOB basis the vessel is provided by IPL. Origin Of Goods, Iran"
- "The refinery of the urea is a trade secret. just like Sears/Kwikfit/Beaurepaires is not going to tell you which distributor they buy their tires from"
- "At this time, the urea is either being loaded into the vessel or has already left port"
- Further information regarding the shipment will be subject to this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=684972.msg8321662#msg8321662
- Vote for #URO on https://hitbtc.com/ (please vote when logged in as it gives 10x votes)
- Leave a honest review at https://coinist.co/cryptocurrencies/uro
- I demand that everyone watches this video: Nuro Blackboard Series Part 3: Full Node to SPV to Cloud: Realization of Next Gen Internet Banking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W90dWe7IRHI (failure to do so will result in complete excommunication)
How funny for a person who is trying to get people to pay money for his so-called Uro, which is supposed to be sure thing to say to people, " I demand that everyone watches this video" How NAZI like! Does he think that he 'owns' his supporters to the extent that he can act like a Hitler towards them?? Hope his followers aren't blindly following what he says! If they are then, help is needed for them!  You have no argument, so you are invalid.  I thought your puppeteer told you and Corather not to reply to my posts. Can't help yourselves, LOL LOL |
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Update on Rivaa's first shipment paid with URO (please a couple of my very reasonable requests for active community participation): - "Port of Loading: Assaluyeh Port, Iran, as the shipment is on FOB basis the vessel is provided by IPL. Origin Of Goods, Iran"
- "The refinery of the urea is a trade secret. just like Sears/Kwikfit/Beaurepaires is not going to tell you which distributor they buy their tires from"
- "At this time, the urea is either being loaded into the vessel or has already left port"
- Further information regarding the shipment will be subject to this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=684972.msg8321662#msg8321662
- Vote for #URO on https://hitbtc.com/ (please vote when logged in as it gives 10x votes)
- Leave a honest review at https://coinist.co/cryptocurrencies/uro
- I demand that everyone watches this video: Nuro Blackboard Series Part 3: Full Node to SPV to Cloud: Realization of Next Gen Internet Banking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W90dWe7IRHI (failure to do so will result in complete excommunication)
How funny for a person who is trying to get people to pay money for his so-called Uro, which is supposed to be sure thing to say to people, " I demand that everyone watches this video" How NAZI like! Does he think that he 'owns' his supporters to the extent that he can act like a Hitler towards them?? Hope his followers aren't blindly following what he says! If they are then, help is needed for them! |
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Update on Rivaa's first shipment paid with URO (please a couple of my very reasonable requests for active community participation): - "Port of Loading: Assaluyeh Port, Iran, as the shipment is on FOB basis the vessel is provided by IPL. Origin Of Goods, Iran"
- "The refinery of the urea is a trade secret. just like Sears/Kwikfit/Beaurepaires is not going to tell you which distributor they buy their tires from"
- "At this time, the urea is either being loaded into the vessel or has already left port"
- Further information regarding the shipment will be subject to this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=684972.msg8321662#msg8321662
- Vote for #URO on https://hitbtc.com/ (please vote when logged in as it gives 10x votes)
- Leave a honest review at https://coinist.co/cryptocurrencies/uro
- I demand that everyone watches this video: Nuro Blackboard Series Part 3: Full Node to SPV to Cloud: Realization of Next Gen Internet Banking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W90dWe7IRHI (failure to do so will result in complete excommunication)
How funny for a person who is trying to get people to pay money for his so-called Uro, which is supposed to be sure thing to say to people, " I demand that everyone watches this video" How NAZI like! Does he think that he 'owns' his supporters to the extent that he can act like a Hitler towards them?? Hope his followers aren't blindly following what he says! If they are then, help is needed for them! You have no argument, so you are invalid. |
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If any of you can demonstrate proof to me that all the shipping records are publicly available (like hobopete has mentioned), then I can try and convince Rivaa and/or GES to provide the details - by arguing that its public knowledge anyway.
Provide me the way/links on how to access these records, so that I can make a case for you guys.
Well, internet jockeys? You were just saying all this info is online. Where's the evidence? How silly that Nilesh Nair (True-Asset) doesn't know how to find out about shipping records??? Thought he was running a multi-international commodities business. Thought he was someone with considerable experience and expertise!! To ask a question about how to do things in an area he's supposed to know so much about and if he's organising multi-million dollar deals why is he on a forum asking people who may have little or no experience in this area??? Sounds like he's using people to do the work he can't do. Don't tell me you guys are going to do the work for him to not only rip you off, but try and produce 'evidence' to continue to con people! He'll use your research and work to make it look like he knows what he's doing!! Please tell me those of you who are supporters of Nilesh are NOT going to do this. He's supposed to be a good business owner!! |
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Only 1 day left...Nilesh Nair is desperate! Fancy hyping things up to make people panic and do what he wants! Is there something he needs money for in 1 day??? |
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Update on Rivaa's first shipment paid with URO (please a couple of my very reasonable requests for active community participation): - "Port of Loading: Assaluyeh Port, Iran, as the shipment is on FOB basis the vessel is provided by IPL. Origin Of Goods, Iran"
- "The refinery of the urea is a trade secret. just like Sears/Kwikfit/Beaurepaires is not going to tell you which distributor they buy their tires from"
- "At this time, the urea is either being loaded into the vessel or has already left port"
- Further information regarding the shipment will be subject to this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=684972.msg8321662#msg8321662
- Vote for #URO on https://hitbtc.com/ (please vote when logged in as it gives 10x votes)
- Leave a honest review at https://coinist.co/cryptocurrencies/uro
- I demand that everyone watches this video: Nuro Blackboard Series Part 3: Full Node to SPV to Cloud: Realization of Next Gen Internet Banking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W90dWe7IRHI (failure to do so will result in complete excommunication)
How funny for a person who is trying to get people to pay money for his so-called Uro, which is supposed to be sure thing to say to people, " I demand that everyone watches this video" How NAZI like! Does he think that he 'owns' his supporters to the extent that he can act like a Hitler towards them?? Hope his followers aren't blindly following what he says! If they are then, help is needed for them! |
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The price would go up 10 fold because an arbitrage would exist, a buyer can take advantage of the price difference between the two markets (real and imaginary).
Arbitrages normally exist for a reason, there was a long running 20% arbitrage between MTgox and other bitcoin exchanges for example (reflecting bitcoin prices were higher because USD were effectively worth less on that exchange because of banking problems, causing people to buy up bitcoin to cash out!).
When the opportunity of a 99.5%+ arbitrage exists, within a multibillion dollar industry, for over a month, alarm bells should really ring to those that weren't dropped on their heads as young children, and less than 5 minutes of research should suffice to settle any doubt this is a scam.
Is it really so hard for people to get their heads around the fact that a new concept could be started for the sake of invention, and not for making money in the first place? That True-Asset in fact is an idealist that wants to make this world a better place? People like that actually do exist! >>>>Truthful is a FUDSTER! He wants what is good for him while pretending he wants something good for others!! Wolf in sheeps clothing! I see liars. Why don't you write your own thing instead of copying me!! Nilesh is a wolf in sheeps clothing. >>>"I see liars." LOL and i can see the future, can you believe me? . Your statements are proved by nothing, so why someone should listen to you? The ego from you is sickening! Are you saying that your statements prove something?? Prove it then! |
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I SEE FUD
Where?? Oh you are the FUD! |
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The price would go up 10 fold because an arbitrage would exist, a buyer can take advantage of the price difference between the two markets (real and imaginary).
Arbitrages normally exist for a reason, there was a long running 20% arbitrage between MTgox and other bitcoin exchanges for example (reflecting bitcoin prices were higher because USD were effectively worth less on that exchange because of banking problems, causing people to buy up bitcoin to cash out!).
When the opportunity of a 99.5%+ arbitrage exists, within a multibillion dollar industry, for over a month, alarm bells should really ring to those that weren't dropped on their heads as young children, and less than 5 minutes of research should suffice to settle any doubt this is a scam.
Is it really so hard for people to get their heads around the fact that a new concept could be started for the sake of invention, and not for making money in the first place? That True-Asset in fact is an idealist that wants to make this world a better place? People like that actually do exist! >>>>Truthful is a FUDSTER! He wants what is good for him while pretending he wants something good for others!! Wolf in sheeps clothing! I see liars. Why don't you write your own thing instead of copying me!! Nilesh is a wolf in sheeps clothing. |
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calling people cunt and twat will not help your cause.
Why did you 'push' us around then on the other forum?? Why are all the posts of people who have asked questions and presented facts deleted? Why has Nilesh established a new way of people asking questions through launchpad? https://answers.launchpad.net/nuro/+addquestion
Why all of a sudden is the moderated forum just a place for casual communication?
He changes things all the time. Keeps the control at all costs!!
Doesn't that tell you and others something?? Lack of transparency is a problem. Must have something to hide??
I have tried and tried to believe. I can only tell people something is legit and they should invest if I feel I have intelligently looked at what is expected to happen and how its expected to get there. I feel I was ran around a bush like 100 times and ended up with no further knowledge. https://twitter.com/UroFoundation/status/499091979561480194Now waiting for a response that must be calculated because its taking awhile. but I have a feeling this endless circle will end with them telling me nothing and me going to bed. This is not fud I want the truth. I want to believe. If this post is deleted it will be exposed. WHAT is so hard about this question: How will URO ever meet UREA prices. How will it possibly stay there? If say farmers want to buy more URO to hold onto but cant because the price would go up unreasonably how to keep the price down? Vice Versa how to even get the price up to begin with? How is this not a reasonable question? It may seem complicated but really its not I asked for just one real solution The closest I got to an answer was pointing to protocols and ratifications as the reasoning. Like I mentioned in the tweets the ratifications are not even notarized so what are there purpose? They are completely useless pieces of information. The protocol is quite literally just a sales arrangement that in no way enforces that the price of uro will increase. Nor does it in any way benefit GES to sell UREA for URO at this time as even if the price were to match they would only even out, not gain profit. Even if they assume urea prices will increase how could the benefits possibly outway the risk? Theres no way! Unless they can afford to invest in uro themselves. Sell the urea themselves and completely control the market (making it centralized and pointless) I dont foresee URO EVER matching prices. PLEASE someone explain to me how this will happen? I have managed to have a smart discussion with CANN devs and got a reasonable answer as to how they plan to make weed backed currency (great plan by the way, I expect once its released URO will try to copy, making prediction now 1:13AM PST 8/12/2014 edit ). Why is URO so much more difficult? Why cant they come up with a reasonable plan that someone with a reasonable amount of intelligence can understand? Right now I think people are just blind by the fact that they want to get rich. The reward possibility is high enough that its worth the risk to some. All I want is a reasonable answer to this question and I will be happy to support URO. You see me support CANN daily. Why cant I support URO? because I cant get a real answer. In fact the conversation ended with UROFOUNDATION pretending like I just dont get it by stating "Uro Foundation @UroFoundation 34m @BitEXtra a certain level of economic knowledge is needed to understand the peg. We will make more videos to explain each aspect." I want to believe. Read the tweets and tell me if anything I stated was unreasonable questions? Please split your questions up into individual bite-sized chunks, then create the questions at https://answers.launchpad.net/nuro/+addquestionThis is the URO project's official Q & A management solution. The reason why we have gone this way is to reduce repetition by having previous answers readily available to new members. This forum thread is only for casual discussion within the community. |
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The price would go up 10 fold because an arbitrage would exist, a buyer can take advantage of the price difference between the two markets (real and imaginary).
Arbitrages normally exist for a reason, there was a long running 20% arbitrage between MTgox and other bitcoin exchanges for example (reflecting bitcoin prices were higher because USD were effectively worth less on that exchange because of banking problems, causing people to buy up bitcoin to cash out!).
When the opportunity of a 99.5%+ arbitrage exists, within a multibillion dollar industry, for over a month, alarm bells should really ring to those that weren't dropped on their heads as young children, and less than 5 minutes of research should suffice to settle any doubt this is a scam.
Is it really so hard for people to get their heads around the fact that a new concept could be started for the sake of invention, and not for making money in the first place? That True-Asset in fact is an idealist that wants to make this world a better place? People like that actually do exist! |
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I just pushed it to a head to try and end the controversy one way or another. I don't care if Nilesh spends his days stuffing rabbits up his ass, I just want proof that the urea is being shipped as per the contract.
"I believe in the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy, and Nilesh Nair's Urea"
But I'm beginning to think there is no Santa Claus.
Hobopete, we all want to believe in something. You can't believe what Nilesh Nair posts on the internet to be real. I kept saying it was all made up. Anyone can put together a website, videos and fake documents. It was and still is all part of his elaborate attempt to make money. He needed some prople like you to help him, yet as with most con men, they use people for their gain and you are left scratching your head. What Nilesh Nair and Bohan Huang are doing is WRONG. Taking people's hard earned money, even if some people are saying they're ok with losing it, or they've said they've lost a small amount, it's wrong. We all need to live! The more people who do this, it will surely kill crypto world. There's enough 'hassles' and problems in the world, we don't need greedy people to make the world worse or peoples lives harder. Nothing wrong with running a legitimate business and offering a REAL service. But these people are not, which is what people were trying to warn others, like yourself about. |
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Quote from: true-asset on Today at 12:26:25 AM
Quote from: hobopete on August 11, 2014, 11:25:50 PM
I still won't call it a scam- I'm just once again disappointed that someone is trying to make something out of nothing.
I just don't like being lied to.
I strongly suggest that you retract your false statements. I know 100% for sure you will never find any real proof that you are "being lied to", simply because neither me, the Uro Foundation, or any of the 6 companies involved with URO so far have lied about anything that has been communicated to this community or to the general public.
In addition, everything I have sent to you in PMs are true as well. However, that does not make it right for you to post them in public.
All the old news on the GES website are true. All the stated events and figures are exactly what happened. Your inability to verify this due to your lack of connections with the entities involved in those events say nothing about whether they have happened.
Stop imagining that you know everything there is to know about how to find out anything you want. Such a notion is totally and utterly misguided.
More examples of emotional manipulation and trying to push people around.
Six companies?? Who are they?? The other so-called NIER's are never mentioned.
There are many people who have asked questions and provided facts, yet were told they were liars.
Some people have lost money, yet there has been no remorse shown by Nilesh Nair and co.
If you wanted your coin to succeed, and the urea is real, why would you not post some proof of shipment, knowing that it would cause the coin to skyrocket? Would that not mean success?
and this is how you treat your friends?
I've fought the fudders for you ceaselessly.
Hopbopete, none of the people who asked questions attacked you. You have come to your own understanding of what we were trying to warn the community about because we hate seeing people get ripped off because of someone else's greed. Nilesh Nair is in this for business. He doesn't care about who he gets his money from. Yet you were loyal because you believed him. That's not your fault. All part of Nilesh Nair being a con man! |
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