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261  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin(BTC) vs wrappedBitcoin(wBTC) on: June 06, 2023, 07:01:55 AM
With the dollar, if I see sense that there are some stablecoins because there is no dollar crypto today, but there is a bitcoin already, unique and original, that was also the first cryptocurrency of those existing today in the market. So why buy bad copies?
They are not copies of Bitcoin, not forks of Bitcoin.

Bitcoin forks are a lot but they are Proof of Work altcoins from Bitcoin source code that is modified by those fork developers.

How many Bitcoin forks are there?

Tokenized bitcoin tokens are tokens and they are not Proof of Work coins.
262  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin(BTC) vs wrappedBitcoin(wBTC) on: June 06, 2023, 01:52:36 AM
Wrapped bitcoin is not bitcoin but a tokenized coin that tries to beg its value with bitcoin. The peg can be de-pegged.

Tokenized btc coins on coinmarketcap

If you need examples, SoBTC Wrapped Bitcoin (Sollet): https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/wrapped-bitcoin-sollet

It lost the peg in November 2022 and has never reclaimed the peg.

Then I began to explain to him that -
1. Wrapped bitcoin is not completely decentralized like the original bitcoin is..
It is minted by a developer team and fully centralized, not decentralized.

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2. Those who wrapped the bitcoin can decide to unwrap it, then his supposed bitcoin will ultimately return back to zero (0) dollars.
They can make rug pull or the peg can be de-pegged by market volatility or attacks.

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3. Wrapped bitcoin can only be traded on decentralized exchanges, liquidity was added by some persons, if those persons who added the liquidity decide to withdraw it, you are completely locked in and no way to sell your supposed bitcoin..
Wrapped bitcoin tokens can be traded on centralized exchanges too. It depends on centralized exchanges to list those tokens or not list those tokens, but your statement is not true.

Wrapped Bitcoin is on Binance, Kucoin, Kraken, Coinbase, more.
263  Economy / Reputation / Re: 12 Years on Bitcointalk Today! on: June 06, 2023, 12:35:41 AM
I guess that sort of makes me one of the old guys around here.  It's been a pretty crazy ride, but I'll admit it hasn't been all that surprising.  12 years ago I signed up for this crazy forum to learn more about this new decentralized currency with a limit on the number of coins that can be produced.  I wanted to take part immediately and went from trading things for BTC, to mining, to helping others trade, then helping others mine who aren't able (through my community organization), and eventually creating cool products.  It's been an amazing ride with a lot of interesting speedbumps along the way, but still we roll on.  Smiley

Some things I've done over the last 12 years that I think are cool...
12 years in Bitcointalk and Bitcoin are crazy and you started in very early years of Bitcoin. When people thought it is a joke, zero value, you believed in it and discovered it and kept rolling till 2023. Amazing anniversary indeed.

With 12 years, you would know many things about Bitcoin, growth of Bitcointalk and Bitcoin communities. You are a veteran Bitcoiners!

Congratulations OgNasty!
264  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Satoshi/ CORE on: June 05, 2023, 08:47:42 AM
It's actually ...NAME/CODE ...CORE/CORE... It was formerly called BTCs or Bitcoin Satoshi
Only one Bitcoin, one name, one ticker, in my post.

The Core you discussed is not Bitcoin.

How many Bitcoin forks are there?

Code:
You can check: https://www.btcs [dot] love
Is it a phishing site?

Do you want to be banned?
6. No linking to phishing or malware, without a warning and a valid reason. [e]
265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Satoshi/ CORE on: June 05, 2023, 08:09:55 AM
Don't you all think if Core can resist the urge of following Bitcoin when falling or rising, other exchanges will remove Bitcoin as liquidity in their exchange and replace it with Core?
You are confusing or you are trying to confuse us.

Bitcoin is Bitcoin, the unique cryptocurrency, and has only one name Bitcoin, one ticker BTC, BTC.

Bitcoin Core is a Bitcoin wallet but it is not Bitcoin. A software wallet that you can use to store bitcoin and make bitcoin transaction, verify bitcoin messages and more. There are other software wallets for you to store your bitcoin, make transactions, verify messages ...

Core, when you only say this, is confusing. It can be a Bitcoin Core wallet, a Core token, a Core coin, whatever has Core in its name. Searching on Coinmarketcap, you will see many Cores.

Bitcoin Core software wallet
266  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin halving countdown on: June 05, 2023, 07:58:32 AM
Most Reliable Halving Countdown?

Those countdown timers are only estimators and they can not give us accurate time when a next halving will happen. Block rewards halve after 210,000 blocks and will always be like this but time for that event is not known. Because we don't have exact block time for all blocks. Some blocks can be found after seconds, some blocks can be found after 10 minutes, longer than 10 minutes or shorter than 10 minutes.

Countdown timers only can give estimated time based on average block time that can be changed in future before the halving block. When block comes more nearly to a halving block, estimated time will become more accurate and will be inaccurate by a few minutes or seconds.

Now when halving block is about 1 more year, estimated time can be inaccurate by a few days.

What is a block halving event?

As part of Bitcoin's coin issuance, miners are rewarded a certain amount of bitcoins whenever a block is produced (approximately every 10 minutes). When Bitcoin first started, 50 Bitcoins per block were given as a reward to miners. After every 210,000 blocks are mined (approximately every 4 years), the block reward halves and will keep on halving until the block reward per block becomes 0 (approximately by year 2140). As of now, the block reward is 6.25 coins per block and will decrease to 3.125 coins per block post halving.
267  Other / Archival / Re: [Merit] Help newbies and those who have a little left to the next rank on: June 02, 2023, 04:24:33 AM
Rank: Member
Amount of merit: 85
Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3525082

Thank you Ratimov!
268  Other / Meta / Re: Algorithm to "merited by" order on: June 01, 2023, 04:26:22 AM
Then the only way I could think of it again is that it's based on reputation. That's why DT members will come first according to their rank, followed by others.
This is just an assumption.

Edit: UchihaSarada then the only explanation could be my assumption above. Little Mouse is a DT 2 member and every other user who have merited the post are below that.... 🌝🙃
Member activity point is your account activity point that is not your account reputation. It's not DT member point.

Member activity is not reputation. theymos did not write that reputation is a tiebreaker.

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So respect will be shown to the elder
Your account is older but it can have less reputation than younger account.
269  Other / Meta / Re: Algorithm to "merited by" order on: June 01, 2023, 04:10:13 AM
The order is not in alphabetical or user id. Because it is not in alphabetical order, I thought of member id order and I believed you are the oldest member who merited that post. Checking show this is not true too.

NicNacCoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=960780
Little Mouse https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2344286
Dimitri94 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3417917
Learn Bitcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3506304

Member id makes sense but activity point is counted too.
Pretty sure it's first by merit awarded for that post (obviously), then by activity.
Right. And in case of equal activity, member ID is the tiebreaker.

Tiebreakers: Merit amount, Member activity, Member ID.
270  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 8 websites to check bitcoin address and transaction statuses on: June 01, 2023, 02:27:09 AM
To check Bitcoin address, its balance, and transaction status, you need block explorers for Bitcoin.

List of useful Bitcoin block explorers
Two guides on Blockchain.com and Blockchair.com explorers. When you use a block explorer to check your transaction status, take caution that you need to use Tor to protect your privacy. Pay attention on its opt-in (Replace by Fee RBF) or not and if you make a transaction without RBF, you must note it down and use that opt-in for future transactions. With RBF, you will be able to bump your transaction fee.

[Guide] How to use Blockchain Explorer to check status of your transaction
[Guide] Using Blockchair Explorer

Some visualization websites
[LIST] Bitcoin Visualization
271  Other / Meta / Re: Did Laszlo Hanyecz exchange 40000 BTC for 8 pizzas, not 10000 BTC for 2 pizzas? on: May 30, 2023, 04:51:09 PM
If you read the pizza thread, he comes back at some point and shares the wallet he used to make multiple pizza deals. If I remember correctly roughly 35,000 bitcoins left the wallet, which he stated were used for multiple deals here. He also posted two separate photos from two different deals, one shows papa johns pizza boxes, the other something different. I’m too lazy to dig it up now, but just look at his post history, I don’t think it’s buried too deep.

Edit- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=109.msg5141191#msg5141191
Thank you but I noted it in OP. You missed it. I also looked at transaction history of that address and knew about some big transactions like 20k BTC (two transactions), 6k BTC, 3kBTC but I knew it does not mean anything without any member confirms it.

Transaction: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/a1075db55d416d3ca199f55b6084e2115b9345e16c5cf302fc80e9d5fbf5d48d
lazslo's post about that address.

Looks like he traded more than 10,000 BTC for more than two pizzas. I don't find any post of laszlo on bitcoin talk that how many pizzas he bought with how many bitcoins before the offer closure.

Don't trust anyone. Verify!
My post shows I tried to verify but need help.
Anyone can confirm this information please.
Anyone from 100 frequent members in 2010 can make confirmations, please.
3-4 years ago there were less than 100 people frequenting this forum, and I was pretty happy to trade 10,000 coins for pizza.

Let's forget about the merit thing
Attacked me. Bad. And say forgot about it.
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His main goal was to get something, and he received one from you. You never forget to feed those hungry Kids!

Are your posts conflicted each other when someone posted, not me? Again, you did not read my OP, if you read it you will see lazlo wrote that he indeed bought more than two pizzas and spent more than 10k BTC. You accused me to make this thread only for merit, be frankly with yourself. If I don't make this thread, maybe you did not know about this fact that laszlo spent more bitcoins for pizzas and spent bitcoins to buy other things with very cheap price of bitcoin.
He never said he traded more than 10 thousand Bitcoin for pizzas (If he said, Refer me there, and I will apologize for my statement).

Laszlo indeed bought more than two pizzas.

Don't come to a conclusion based on a single Twitter handle
You did not read and quickly say my topic is a conclusion.
I would say he successfully spread the false claim and reached his goal.
False claim, but what claim is it?
But look at the title of this topic. It has a question mark, indeed. But, The title is misleading or somewhat clickbait thing. Do you like clickbait titles or thumbnails?
A question turns to be a conclusion in your view. What?
You only have conclusion, claim with this topic but I only wanted to get help to verify information from those tweets and lazlo's posts.

I will never reply to you because you are not frankly with your posts.

Thank you JayJuanGee. Your post makes sense.


I de-escalate it and if anyone can confirm those trades, I much appreciate it.

The pizza transaction: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/a1075db55d416d3ca199f55b6084e2115b9345e16c5cf302fc80e9d5fbf5d48d
Some big transactions after that, until the announcement to close the pizza offer.
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/33009032b3d69a2a29f8bdbbfa6848616989058d057bf60f075b6f8ca4fc1fda
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/fcb670aeda87ccef4d16f8fc818051a60cee9d47dd83e2787b62140398b4cb2f
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/df2f96a440bac38e7e408bab50636bad898e71d2707bc95d950f4a6baeabea3e
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/c98546d415d502e4f9d9d3df3e6a9e3f5183ba5cd6416539e052749ec35dc2fc
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/77036fa2ac75212be1ce93e8e1008d5cb2bcbb51aa560a5fe29c9c1423bbd00e
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/8d41a2590899ba287052422ed69f98c94baf3ee2af2ddd10a60d058665abaaa6
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/7aaa37a2775a1bc61841248ec559a210d18717cb2cd12899e40606b6c88e13c1
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/c2f8553c1fbe7669a7afcf3da2158fa986f6614b494690be4fdf5517c6772e33
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/9c5c5f2a00041f601f1828efba71415722279116ad3e8526f67ac9b5c3714465
After that, I don't see big transactions and it matches with laszlo's post that he had to spend less bitcoins when he got less from mining.

Those transactions could be for buying things or only moving coins to another wallet, address.
272  Other / Meta / Re: [Bitcointalk Party - Discord sv] Bitcoin Pizza bake-off contest! Enter by June 1 on: May 26, 2023, 09:55:21 AM
look

There is no myth. I responded to you in your other thread. Don't come to a conclusion based on a single Twitter handle. I can create a Twitter account and buy some fake followers and say I've traded the rest 30K Bitcoins for six pizzas. That doesn't make sense at all. Stop Spreading fake news without any sources. Laszlo was active in the forum till 2017. He never said he traded 40K Bitcoins for eight pizzas. A couple of Media interviewed him. He never said he traded more than 10 thousand Bitcoin for pizzas (If he said, Refer me there, and I will apologize for my statement).

So, there is no myth to solve. Too much curiosity spreads fake things, and other newbies get confused with such phony information. If a newbie sees this, he might think this is authentic news and will start saying the same thing. This is how FUD creates.

It's not like you have heard this thing from any media. Nor from multiple Twitter handles. A Single Twitter handle claims this repeatedly, and you get excited about it.

Laszlo indeed bought more than two pizzas.

You changed after Husires posted.
You did not read what is that Twitter account is and just made post for your campaign. Trusted account but I wanted to verify the information.
Pathetic!

I wrote in my topic that I knew Laszlo never told about how many pizzas he bought or how many bitcoins he spent but his posts imply like he bought more than 2 pizzas and spent more than 10,000 bitcoins.

I asked help if someone can know about it. If you don't know, skip it. You see, your second post means I am right that laszlo bought more than 2 pizzas with his bitcoins. I did not know about that but wanted to verify it.

I won't reply to your post, because your posts are shit posts.
273  Other / Meta / Re: [Bitcointalk Party - Discord sv] Bitcoin Pizza bake-off contest! Enter by June 1 on: May 25, 2023, 06:47:08 AM
There is no myth. I responded to you in your other thread.
Read two posts and disappointed with your shit posts.

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Don't come to a conclusion based on a single Twitter handle.
Did I conclude anything. Shit post.

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I can create a Twitter account and buy some fake followers and say I've traded the rest 30K Bitcoins for six pizzas.
Your Twitter account will be a shit one, not valuable like a Twitter account of Lopp.

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That doesn't make sense at all. Stop Spreading fake news without any sources. Laszlo was active in the forum till 2017. He never said he traded 40K Bitcoins for eight pizzas. A couple of Media interviewed him. He never said he traded more than 10 thousand Bitcoin for pizzas (If he said, Refer me there, and I will apologize for my statement).
When you did not tell something, no one asked him about that in those interviews.

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So, there is no myth to solve. Too much curiosity spreads fake things, and other newbies get confused with such phony information. If a newbie sees this, he might think this is authentic news and will start saying the same thing. This is how FUD creates.
Is this one a fud?

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It's not like you have heard this thing from any media. Nor from multiple Twitter handles. A Single Twitter handle claims this repeatedly, and you get excited about it.
Does not make sense. One valid tweet has more value than thounsands of shit tweets.

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However, This thread is exclusively for the Discord server and Pizza contest. You have created a thread for the same thing you posted here—no point in posting it everywhere.
If you answered me in my thread. Don't answer, repeat your answer here to get post for your campaign. Shit post.

If you can not help me, shut your mouth.
274  Other / Meta / Re: Did Laszlo Hanyecz exchange 40000 BTC for 8 pizzas, not 10000 BTC for 2 pizzas? on: May 25, 2023, 03:08:47 AM
Imagine what he feels whenever bitcoin pizza day is mentioned! At least I hope he is rich now other than not having thousands of bitcoins. This should be recorded on the book of guinness, bitcoin should be recorded there as well, where in the world can you pay 10,000 units of something for 30$ pizza and after 13 years you could still buy a pizza for 30$ but those 10,000 units worth more than $250 M.🤑
40,000 BTC, not 10,000 BTC. Massive regret.
275  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: BetterCallRaul.it Domain Seized or Scammed on: May 25, 2023, 03:06:37 AM
They still logged in account hours ago and reading our scam accusation and responded to our complaints by taking off their fake background photo and shutdown their website that is no longer seized now.

bettercallraul profile. They logged in or CIA logged in the account?  Huh

They just made another stupid activity by logged in account to read. Stupid scam exit and not yet arrested by police.
276  Other / Meta / Re: [Bitcointalk Party - Discord sv] Bitcoin Pizza bake-off contest! Enter by June 1 on: May 25, 2023, 01:29:53 AM
Happy Bitcoin Pizza Contest.

Could you help me to solve this myth, please.

Did Laszlo Hanyecz exchange 40000 BTC for 8 pizzas, not 10000 BTC for 2 pizzas?. I only knew about this days ago and could not find more confirmations for this information anywhere. It started in this forum and the answer should be found in this forum.
277  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A (more generalized) definition of Bitcoin on: May 25, 2023, 01:27:25 AM
    with a hard-capped supply limit of 21 million units (further subdivision is allowed but the decimal place must remain fixed)[/li][/list]
    Want to discover more about this, welcome.
    How is the 21 million Bitcoin cap defined and enforced?

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    the ledger of which includes in the record the 2009 genesis block
    It is censored to only a genesis block and can mislead newbies. Bitcoin blockchain is a public ledger which records all confirmed transactions and 2009 genesis block is only one of transactions.

    Genesis Block has its Coinbase message
    Code:
    The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks


    Details of a Bitcoin Genesis block on blockchain.com explorer: https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/blocks/btc/0
    278  Other / Meta / Did Laszlo Hanyecz exchange 40000 BTC for 8 pizzas, not 10000 BTC for 2 pizzas? on: May 23, 2023, 03:11:23 AM
    Pizzas for bitcoin?

    I'll pay 10,000 bitcoins for a couple of pizzas.. like maybe 2 large ones so I have some left over for the next day.  I like having left over pizza to nibble on later.  You can make the pizza yourself and bring it to my house or order it for me from a delivery place, but what I'm aiming for is getting food delivered in exchange for bitcoins where I don't have to order or prepare it myself, kind of like ordering a 'breakfast platter' at a hotel or something, they just bring you something to eat and you're happy!

    I like things like onions, peppers, sausage, mushrooms, tomatoes, pepperoni, etc.. just standard stuff no weird fish topping or anything like that.  I also like regular cheese pizzas which may be cheaper to prepare or otherwise acquire.

    If you're interested please let me know and we can work out a deal.

    Thanks,
    Laszlo

    He did a first or only trade with jercos on 22 May 2010.
    I just want to report that I successfully traded 10,000 bitcoins for pizza.

    Pictures: http://heliacal.net/~solar/bitcoin/pizza/

    Thanks jercos!
    Archived pictures: https://web.archive.org/web/20121202201145/http://heliacal.net/~solar/bitcoin/pizza/
    Transaction: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/a1075db55d416d3ca199f55b6084e2115b9345e16c5cf302fc80e9d5fbf5d48d
    lazslo's post about that address.

    He let the offer opened
    This is an open offer by the way.. I will trade 10,000 BTC for 2 of these pizzas any time as long as I have the funds (I usually have plenty).  If anyone is interested please let me know.  The exchange is favorable for anyone who does it because the 2 pizzas are only about 25 dollars total, maybe 30 if you give the guy a nice tip.  If you get me the upgraded extra large ones or something, I can throw in some more bitcoins, just let me know and we'll work something out.

    My 1 year old daughter really enjoys pizza too!  She just smears it all over her face if you give her a whole slice, but she does eventually manage to get most of it in her mouth (minus a few loose toppings of course).

    He ended his offer on 4 August 2010
    Well I didn't expect this to be so popular but I can't really afford to keep doing it since I can't generate thousands of coins a day anymore  Smiley Thanks to everyone who bought me pizza already but I'm kind of holding off on doing any more of these for now.

    Looks like he traded more than 10,000 BTC for more than two pizzas. I don't find any post of laszlo on bitcoin talk that how many pizzas he bought with how many bitcoins before the offer closure.

    Jameson Lopp tweeted. That offer ended up with 8 pizzas for 40,000 BTC.
    On this day 13 years ago, Laszlo Hanyecz exchanged 10,000 BTC in return for 2 Papa John's pizzas. But the story didn't end there!

    Turns out that Laszlo REALLY LOVES PIZZA. He kept his offer open for some time and eventually ended up purchasing 8 pizzas for a total of 40,000 BTC.

    12 years ago today, Laszlo Hanyecz had tens of thousands of bitcoin he had mined just burning a hole in his pocket. He also had a hankering for pizza. The rest... was history.

    Fun fact: he kept his pizza offer open for a while and in total purchased 8 pizzas for 40,000 BTC.

    Many Bitcoin users are aware that Laszlo Hanyecz bought 2 Papa John's pizzas for 10,000 BTC in 2010. What's less known is that he kept his pizza offer open and in total purchased 8 pizzas for 40,000 BTC.

    Anyone can confirm this information please.
    Anyone from 100 frequent members in 2010 can make confirmations, please.
    3-4 years ago there were less than 100 people frequenting this forum, and I was pretty happy to trade 10,000 coins for pizza.
    279  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Ledger Recovery Service. on: May 22, 2023, 01:44:25 AM
    As far as I know, the ledger users have calmed down a lot because those who like the service offered by Ledger have a monthly subscription to pay for it, in addition to that, they also have to submit Kyc for that Ledger service.
    Buying a hardware wallet and KYC, thanks Ledger, I don't want it.

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           Of course, the result will be that every user of that Ledger wallet has no privacy. In which the majority of Ledger's community felt that, for me the strategy they did was not right. It seems like they violated something there in my understanding.
    It is not only about user privacy that many people don't mind.
    It is more about security of their coins. With Ledger Recovery Service, you will be only one of four entities will own your wallet seed. You, Ledger, Coincover, and Escrowtech.

    Anyone feels safe about this new scheme? I don't feel safely with it.
    280  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to change login password? on: May 22, 2023, 01:40:53 AM
    I forget my login password and I’m finding it difficult to change the password Smiley, please someone should please help me out.
    You forgot your password but could make this post, so did you let your account login on your browser?

    You can recover your account with:
    - Password reset via email
    - Password reset via manual recovery


    When you recover your account password, change it to a new password, you should sign a Bitcoin message and stake it as evidence of your account ownership. In future, you can use that Bitcoin address, signed message to recover your account.
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