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261  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS Rounds Up Mothers and Children and Burns Them Alive in Caliphate on: July 10, 2015, 05:14:30 PM
What is your solution redandblack ?
262  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gay Man Files $70M Suit Against Bible Publishers Over ‘Homosexual’ Verses on: July 10, 2015, 08:00:11 AM
The guy is an alleged ex-con and now a paralegal. He is suing because a translation of a bible included the term homosexual in one verse in a version in 1976 that was removed in 2001 and 2006.
263  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gay Man Files $70M Suit Against Bible Publishers Over ‘Homosexual’ Verses on: July 10, 2015, 07:55:56 AM
The attack will come from all side by the gayhadists against religion. This was predicted. I'd like to see him try that with ISIS.
264  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donald Trump says that Hillary Clinton would make a terrible president. on: July 10, 2015, 07:44:58 AM
"Public Study: Illegal Immigrants Commit Less Crime Than Americans"

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/20...han-americans/

Did you bother to read the article? It does not show illegal aliens commit less crime, it just refers to a second article in which someone just states it. And that's not what the referenced study is even about.

And its not true that illegal immigrants commit less crime than Citizens.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...es-in-fy-2014/

While illegal immigrants account for about 3.5 percent of the U.S population, they represented 36.7 percent of federal sentences in FY 2014 following criminal convictions, according to U.S. Sentencing Commission data obtained by Breitbart News.

According to FY 2014 USSC data, of 74,911 sentencing cases, citizens accounted for 43,479 (or 58.0 percent), illegal immigrants accounted for 27,505 (or 36.7 percent), legal immigrants made up 3,017 (or 4.0 percent), and the remainder (about 1 percent) were cases in which the offender was either extradited or had an unknown status.

Broken down by some of the primary offenses, illegal immigrants represented 16.8 percent of drug trafficking cases, 20.0 percent of kidnapping/hostage taking, 74.1 percent of drug possession, 12.3 percent of money laundering, and 12.0 percent of murder convictions.

I wondered about the data, so I looked at the US Sentencing Commission report,
http://www.ussc.gov/research-and-pub...ing-statistics

The data is correct, illegal aliens commit violent crimes at a far greater rate than US Citizens.
265  Other / Politics & Society / Jeb Bush: People Need to Work Longer Hours on: July 09, 2015, 06:41:33 PM
Republican presidential candidate Jeb Bush said Wednesday that in order to grow the economy "people should work longer hours" -- a comment that the Bush campaign argues was a reference to underemployed part-time workers but which Democrats are already using to attack him.

During an interview that was live-streamed on the app Periscope, Bush told New Hampshire's The Union Leader that to grow the economy, "people should work longer hours."

He was answering a question about his plans for tax reform and responded:

"My aspiration for the country and I believe we can achieve it, is 4 percent growth as far as the eye can see. Which means we have to be a lot more productive, workforce participation has to rise from its all-time modern lows. It means that people need to work longer hours" and, through their productivity, gain more income for their families. That's the only way we're going to get out of this rut that we're in."

Already the Democratic National Committee has pounced, releasing a statement that calls his remarks "easily one of the most out-of-touch comments we've heard so far this cycle," adding that Bush would not fight for the middle class as president.

In a statement, a Bush aide clarified that he was referring to the underemployed and part-time workers: "Under President Obama, we have the lowest workforce participation rate since 1977, and too many Americans are falling behind. Only Washington Democrats could be out-of-touch enough to criticize giving more Americans the ability to work, earn a paycheck, and make ends meet."

Bush commented on this issue speaking before the Detroit Economic Council back in February.

"For several years now, they have been recklessly degrading the value of work, the incentive to work, and the rewards of work. We have seen them cut the definition of a full-time job from 40 to 30 hours, slashing the ability of paycheck earners to make ends meet," he said. "We have seen them create welfare programs and tax rules that punish people with lost benefits and higher taxes for moving up those first few rungs of the economic ladder."

A 2014 Gallup poll found that already many Americans employed full-time report working, on average, 47 hours a week, while nearly 4 in 10 say they work at least 50 hours a week.

US workers toil more hours than workers in any other large, industrialized country, according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

There are 6.5 million people in the country who, according to the Bureau of Labor, are working part time for economic reasons. This means they are involuntarily working part time because they can't find full time employment and presumably would work more if they could.

Some took Bush's comments as an opportunity to pounce.

The Clinton camp weighed in, with campaign chair John Podesta tweeting:

Rick Tyler, the national spokesman for Ted Cruz's campaign also issued a statement.

"It would seem to me that Gov Bush would want to avoid the kind of comments that led voters to believe that Governor Romney was out of touch with the economic struggles many Americans are facing," he said. "The problem is not that Americans aren't working hard enough. It is that the Washington cartel of career politicians, special interests and lobbyists have rigged the game against them."

http://abc7chicago.com/news/jeb-bush...-hours/836256/

Is this guy for real? Is this really who the Republicans want as president?

This is worse than George.

Of course republicans want people working more hours, then they don't have time to watch what other skullduggery is taking place in congress, due to everyone being so tired they can't keep track of much else.
266  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Oregon allowing 15-year-olds to get state-subsidized sex-change operations on: July 09, 2015, 06:31:15 PM
F'in incredible. Look here - the State of Oregon is currently denying life-saving treatment to Hep-C patients, because of cost.

The total cost of a Hep-C cure is 100,000 dollars, and it's a one-time cost, after you're treated you're cured forever.

And here they're talking 150,000 a year, for something that isn't even fatal Huh

How does that work?

I think you are looking for common sense and logic where none exists.
267  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Oregon allowing 15-year-olds to get state-subsidized sex-change operations on: July 09, 2015, 06:25:36 PM


The list of things 15-year-olds are not legally allowed to do in Oregon is long: Drive, smoke, donate blood, get a tattoo -- even go to a tanning bed.

But, under a first-in-the-nation policy quietly enacted in January that many parents are only now finding out about, 15-year-olds are now allowed to get a sex-change operation. Many residents are stunned to learn they can do it without parental notification -- and the state will even pay for it through its Medicaid program, the Oregon Health Plan.

"It is trespassing on the hearts, the minds, the bodies of our children," said Lori Porter of Parents' Rights in Education. "They're our children. And for a decision, a life-altering decision like that to be done unbeknownst to a parent or guardian, it's mindboggling."

In a statement, Oregon Health Authority spokeswoman Susan Wickstrom explained it this way: "Age of medical consent varies by state. Oregon law -- which applies to both Medicaid and non-Medicaid Oregonians -- states that the age of medical consent is 15."

While 15 is the medical age of consent in the state, the decision to cover sex-change operations specifically was made by the Health Evidence Review Commission (HERC).

Members are appointed by the governor and paid by the state of Oregon. With no public debate, HERC changed its policy to include cross-sex hormone therapy, puberty-suppressing drugs and gender-reassignment surgery as covered treatments for people with gender dysphoria, formally known as gender identity disorder.

HERC officials refused repeated requests by Fox News for an interview and even gave Fox News inaccurate information about the medical director's work schedule.

Oregon Health Authority officials directed Fox News to their website. It shows transgender policy was discussed at four meetings in 2014. It was passed without any opposition or even discussion about teenagers' new access to undergoing a sex change.

Gender dysphoria is classified by the American Psychiatric Association as a mental disorder in which a person identifies as the sex opposite of his or her birth. It is rare, affecting one out of every 20,000 males and one out of every 50,000 females.

According to a 2008 study published in the Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, "most children with gender dysphoria will not remain gender dysphoric after puberty."

Dr. Paul McHugh, who led the Johns Hopkins Psychiatry Department and still practices, said Oregon's policy amounts to child abuse. "We have a very radical and even mutilating treatment being offered to children without any evidence that the long-term outcome of this would be good," McHugh said.

Dr. Jack Drescher, a member of the APA who worked on the Sexual and Gender Identity Disorders Work Group, says treatment for gender dysphoria has received a lot more attention in recent years. He said this year New York changed its policy to cover cross-sex hormone drugs and sex-reassignment surgery for Medicaid recipients who are at least 18 years old. He thinks Oregon is offering the treatment too early.

"Children age 15 may not fully understand all the consequences of the procedures they are undergoing," he said.

Jenn Burleton disagrees. She underwent a sex-reassignment surgery and started the Portland non-profit group TransActive. She said requiring parental consent would lead to more suffering and teen suicide attempts.

"Parents may not be supportive," Burleton said. "They may not be in an environment where they feel the parent will affirm their identity, this may have been going on for years."

The science is unsettled. A 2010 Murad study concluded "very low quality evidence suggests sex reassignment ... improves gender dysphoria and overall quality of life." The authors admitted the evidence was "sparse and inconclusive."

Lisa Maloney, a parent and Scappoose, Ore., School Board member, is outraged.

"To know that taxpayers are now on the hook for that, that a child can do that without their parent's knowledge or information or consent, parents have absolutely no say, that's appalling," Maloney said.

The Oregon Health Authority could not say how many Medicaid recipients have been treated for gender dysphoria since the new policy took effect in January. Oregon has 935,000 people enrolled in the Oregon Health Plan. HERC assumes between 14 and 112 of them may be gender dysphoric. It estimates the total cost of adding cross-sex hormone therapy, puberty-suppressing drugs and sex reassignment surgeries to the coverage will be no more than $150,000 per year.

But HERC also believes the state will save money due to fewer suicide attempts. It estimates there will be one less suicide attempt per year. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates the average cost per suicide attempt in the U.S. is $7,234.

But Dr. McHugh says a sex-change operation, especially for young people with gender dysphoria, is never appropriate.

"We can help them if we begin to explore with them and their families what they're fearing about development, what they're fearing about being a young boy, a young adolescent appropriate to themselves."

..............More at the Link................


Can we start crucifying public officials yet?

What has to happen before, we can? How bad does it have to get?

What do you think?


Can't get a tattoo but perfectly acceptable to have reconstructive genitalia surgery?

Whoever voted on or signed this into law needs to be held for psychological evaluation, and removed from public service for life. Good grief...?
268  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump Warned By RNC Chairman On His Immigration Rhetoric on: July 09, 2015, 06:16:09 PM
Nothing, actually. I thought what he said was both funny, and true.h.

I hoped you would NOT back down on your "harsh" claim....knowing it would box you in to saying something against Trump's comment that other rightwingers would attack you for.

Sorry I was proven wrong, AS. I always thought of you as an honest broker.
269  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump Warned By RNC Chairman On His Immigration Rhetoric on: July 09, 2015, 04:54:43 PM
If you come across a border uninvited, you are a criminal. Simple as that, if our Government decides that its in our national interests to make them legal that is fine too but this has to be debated. Until that is done, they are considered criminals.
Do you know anything about Mexico's immigration laws? Legal Latinos like everyone else care mostly about one thing, money....." its the economy stupid"(Not calling anyone stupid, using a catch phrase). They also care about fairness, they had to immigrate the hard way, pay their dues, while these criminals just cross a border.

If a Cuban stows away on an airplane or takes a boat to Key West and touches American soil....

what will their citizenship status eventually become?

And do ANY Republicans disapprove of that action?


Harsh, meaning, he stated something true, that might hurt someone's feelings (like yours apparently).

But what exactly was "harsh"?
270  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump Warned By RNC Chairman On His Immigration Rhetoric on: July 09, 2015, 04:30:23 PM
IOW lie, and tell them what they want to hear, not what needs to be heard. The truth can be extremely devastating to the weak confused minds of the sheeple.

Or
"Stop pandering so overtly and blatantly to the racists...use code-words and the time-tested 'subtle' pandering all the other Republicans use."

However, I think Trumps words were harsh...

Let's dig a little deeper into that. How EXACTLY, in your opinion, were they "harsh"?
271  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump Warned By RNC Chairman On His Immigration Rhetoric on: July 09, 2015, 04:05:31 PM
Nonsense! He is refreshing, but he won't get the nomination. Do you work for the DNC because you have certainly started a lot of threads lately about Republicans. I don't think you are going to change anyone's mind on here.

So by your theory, everybody who brings up Obama, Hillary, Harry Reid, other Democrats....works for the RNC?
As far as "changing people's minds"...what gave you the idea that ANYBODY posting here expects that? Right, Left, Center?

Well 2 of their top contenders are Cubans, or do they not count?

You just noted Latinos are not monolithic. But what do Mexicans, Costa Ricans, Hondurans think when THEIR families and friends step across the Rio Grande and are considered "criminals"....

but Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio's friends and families cross the Florida Strait from Cuba and are given automatic citizenship?
272  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump Warned By RNC Chairman On His Immigration Rhetoric on: July 09, 2015, 04:01:38 PM
Correct. This guy at work from Mexico hates illegal Mexicans. He spent 15 years worth of visas, residency, and paperwork trying to get his US citizenship. After the 15th year he received it, which makes it so much easier for him to see his family.

Then you have the Illegal Mexicans that the Democrats love so much, for some reason, that jump the fence, work in the US illegally, don't pay taxes, and take more jobs that tax-paying citizens could have.

So he assumes Trump considers him the "some are good people" Mexican...not the "MOST who are rapists and murderers" Mexican?
273  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump Warned By RNC Chairman On His Immigration Rhetoric on: July 09, 2015, 03:57:41 PM
If I am not mistaken Trump said illegals from Mexico, not immigrants. Further Latinos are not one group, most other Latinos dislike Mexicans.

You think Latinos think "The racists in the GOP hate Mexicans...but they don't hate us Costa Ricans, Guatemalans, Hondurans, Salvadorans, etc"?
274  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump Warned By RNC Chairman On His Immigration Rhetoric on: July 09, 2015, 03:52:20 PM
Republicans should not wooo illegal immigrants, and those Latinos who support illegal immigration will never vote for Republican.

They aren't. They're trying to woo Latino voters who don't like racists who think "most Mexican immigrants are rapists" or the Party that supports them....

thus the RNC wants Trump to shut the hell up.
275  Other / Politics & Society / Trump Warned By RNC Chairman On His Immigration Rhetoric on: July 09, 2015, 03:30:18 PM
Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus warned presidential candidate Donald Trump that his rhetoric on illegal immigration was jeopardizing the party’s efforts to woo Hispanic voters.

According to multiple news outlets Wednesday night, the RNC chief urged the real-estate tycoon, who has shot to the front rank in polling among the party’s 2016 contenders, to tone down his remarks on immigration during the private phone conversation Wednesday afternoon.

But a Republican source familiar with the call told CNN that Mr. Priebus closed the conversation with “look, I’ve gotta tell you, I spent four years trying to make inroads with the Hispanic community … how we address illegal immigration is very important” to those efforts.


Read More-
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...out-illegal-i/

Other reports of the story mention that Priebus specifically used the phrase "tone it down". Naturally right wing responses to that in the comments have been outrage and asking Mr. Priebus to perform an impossible sexual act.

But it clearly shows the panic that the RNC is experiencing, that Trump's open and blatant pandering to the racists and the xenophobes (not just the usual "subtle" pandering that other Republicans do). The longer Trump stays in, and keeps speaking like he does, and especially when he hits the debate stage on August 6th...the more that panic will increase.
276  Other / Politics & Society / Re: South Carolina House votes to remove Confederate flag from state house grounds. on: July 09, 2015, 02:51:46 PM
It's our Countries flag.... the Confederate flag is the flag of an army that attacked us... and lost....

So no

Why change the story now? It offends people it has to go!
277  Other / Politics & Society / Re: South Carolina House votes to remove Confederate flag from state house grounds. on: July 09, 2015, 02:48:51 PM
Yes, it's been 50 years in the making, but hopefully, another vestige of a rather disturbing period will be moved to a more appropriate place, the Confederate Relic Room and Military Museum, near the Capitol. And perhaps in the next 50 or so years, the last living KKK member will peacefully pass away and that chapter can also be closed.

Of course you feel the same about groups like the NBPP and La Raza right?
278  Other / Politics & Society / Re: South Carolina House votes to remove Confederate flag from state house grounds. on: July 09, 2015, 02:44:40 PM

The American flag is everyone's flag... it's not going anywhere.. the Confederates lost the war.... time to move on.

Losers do not get to fly their flags on the governments lawn

And yet that flag offends people. Should we get rid of it as well?
279  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is India really a regional power? on: July 09, 2015, 08:31:09 AM
Many IT and customer service jobs are going to India, so their standard of living and economy is improving.

Inspite of some development in IT, and lots of IT companies are having their offices in India. But poverty and population are two indexes where India collapses.


Actually Russia has a slightly higher GDP than India. India may have 15 times more people than Russia, but the majority of those people are very poor.

Poverty rate is very high in India.
280  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is India really a regional power? on: July 09, 2015, 07:55:44 AM
The question was is India a regional power, my answer is yes for the reasons I gave.

I would say, India is a power in its own borders. Otherwise, India has serious issues with Pakistan. For the last 60 years they are fighting on disputed Kashmir region. UN has asked to organize plebiscite in Kashmir and ask people of Kashmir which country they want to join. India and China has serious issues on Hamachal Pardesh area. Sri Lanka has also concerns with India in proking militant groups in Sri Lanka. India is our good ally but not suitable for SC seat.
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