He may have done an ok amount of money for 2 weeks. But his business was growing. He could have run with 50-100 BTC in a month or two. I don't understand why leave so early. 16 BTC as you pointed out, won't last you for too long. The scheme was going well, and he could have profited soooo much more with more time. It doesn't make sense.
Well I guess you never know, the profits may still have risen, but after a while the new investments will stop, as a lot of people will reinvest their profit only, making it unsustainable for a ponzi scheme to be around for too long... If only no one would invest in these, then there would be no ponzi schemes left, but well, everyone is greedy on their part, that's the whole engine behind this ponzi world... |
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That was sarcasm dude, that is what i meant.
Regardless, what i have said is the only good way to invest in a ponzi, hardly call making text big an html skill though. That is so the newbies will read it. There is nothing childish about making double your money. I have been an investor in doublers for over 5 years. I have seen ponzi go down just by people screaming and crying hysterically while writing SCAM SCAM SCAM everywhere. I believe if bitcoindoublex is truly dead, the noobs killed it by not being patient during the bitcoin outage... admin came on about page 19 and after that all hell broke loose with the newbs crying scam... wouldnt be surprised if he just went and said 'you know.... fuck it.'
I do get your point, but in the end, will we ever know  Just have fun with what you can lose, but these newbies will always be around, maybe my status doesnt tell you but last week I also had status newbie. I mean, it's just not because it says newbie... But yea, im getting to a point where im debating to just debate more... I get your point, you get mine, we agree (I hope?) and we move on the the next possible scam or program :p |
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for 10USD you want to give away all of your free time to help anyone winning at the lottery? I really do not know in what part of society to put you lol...
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I was not saying admin should change the limit.
Yes you were: More money? Have any idea how much was in there?... people are putting in 0.5 all the time. Why doesnt he just raise the limit? Nothing but fear mongering talk, coming from somebody with spam in his signature.
Anyway, about that childish post where you maybe wanted to show of your html skills: yes, you are right that if people keep reinvesting it can be sustainable for some time, btcdoublex was sustainable for what? 2 days? with a 0.5 deposit max. Should it have been 5, then maybe it would have taken 3-4 days. It is always a gamble, some people will only invest when the program has done some cycles (as proof of payment). Some will only invest when it has just started (better for sure with first come first serve rule). But none of these schemes will last because they promise a 100% certainty to give a 100% profit in x amount of time. But they CANT promise that because it simply depends on new investors, and the more investors that take part the more investors you need for the next cycle. This is not cutting-edge mathematics, every btc invested should get 2. So in the end there will just not be enough btc in total available to make this site lasting... Yes a while, but never forever (in contrary to the idea of cryptoboost). But I think we are defending kind of the same side, just with different arguments  Anyway, just came up with a new idea of a ponzi. Will post it in a few minutes. Link will be placed here aswell. |
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What you described is a plain ponzi. Anyway, they too will scam. Why do you think they get created in the first place?
I and everyone here appreciates what you are saying and we all know that same facts. The fact here is that this was simply a discussion. Just people talking. I already stated that I do not use these sites and I have no intention of starting one. This is just some people talking about the issues with the sites and possible ways that things can improve. It is not going to happen, we know that. A drug dealer may get more long term sales by referring some of his/her clients to rehab before they die, then they can get a little better, get back out of rehab and start all over with the drug dealer, this is a concept that would show advanced future levels of income and it is just an idea, just like the ones I stated here. There is no drug dealer that is ever going to do that and there are no scammers that are going to modify their methods to show get longevity to the clients. This is just talk. Exactly, and that is applied to many more layers of society than one would think. Ever thought about lethal deseases and their possible cures that way? if not please let it sink in a while BEFORE you read the part under this (and if you're a TL;DR person, this is going to be just that kind of post). So, either you waited, either you didn't, I can't check, I don't care, what I want to say is this: every layer of every society (let's keep it to the human race here) that in general has a will to gain profit, will always try to make other people pay as much as possible. Now, I'm not trying to promote any conspiracy theory's here, BUT given the example you have given, think about this: Why would the government or the society of doctors (im not 100% sure there is one but too lazy to check and sure enough to post :p) cure certain diseases (or sell the possibility of a cure) when they can profit of them selling other meds, like delayers and so... I'm not saying you should, but if you are triggered by these thoughts, just put some of these words in google: cure, treatment, cancer, conspiracy... And yes, others will say it's just conspiracy, I am in no way saying that I am sure it is, but as long as there is no cure generally available, how sure can we be there is one or not? EDIT: wanted to insert an image here i thought was nailing it, but it's several images that make the whole... Anyway the image is at top on this link (as always, click it, don't click it, I don't care): http://www.cancertreatmentwatch.org/q/conspiracy.shtmlBut please, I do not want or do not care whether you believe me or these thoughts. I'm just posting these objective (atleast according to me) thoughts here so that people might be aware that there may always be greater forces than any of us can handle at any given time. And if you want some nice video nailing the truth of the elections of the USA: watch until 0.48 (I am not vouching for anyone, I am just showing some video with some stuff that need some thinking) Maybe I am a conspiracy theorist, maybe I am not, but I am definitely not someone who believes every little crap lie the media sometimes try to tell us... Sorry for long post though, when I start typing, I can't stop lol :p |
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I was not saying admin should change the limit.
Yes you were: More money? Have any idea how much was in there?... people are putting in 0.5 all the time. Why doesnt he just raise the limit? Nothing but fear mongering talk, coming from somebody with spam in his signature.
EDIT: sorry for this, but it seems i edited something wrong, anyway i can get my original posted post back here? Otherwise ill make a quick resume of what i thought i wrote ihere in a while ... Damn, this is newbie style lol |
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1 Novice guide left
2 Pro guides remaining
All 3 Expert guides remaining<--------you got to have a LOT to invest for this one. NOT recommended unless you are a whale.
I am curious, what mountains of bitcoin do you recommend for the expert guide? :p Just made an account with this site got the free 10gh/s seems very cool and unique. Its also very detailed with the whole block generation and block explorer as well as the trading system I have never seen anything like this before. Will see how it goes, theres even pools to join lol wow pretty impressive.
Yes, I also like the game. You have to be patient to gain a profit, but in the end, that's probably the one idea to make (ever)lasting sites/games of this kind. A lot of people seem to vouch for the credibility of aliser, and me too have not yet been unpleasently surprised with this game so far*. So yeah, as with all 'investment' games, I hope this will last the while  The free 10gh/s is a kind gesture, though don't think to make any decent profit of it :p Cheers and I would upvote this game if I could! *Always read the rules, terms of agreement,... of every site/game you play where you put money in. I've seen alot of people complaining about sites where they didn't carefully read these, so yea, that would be your own fault then. (For example here in the Minerfarm game people who complain about the fee for withdrawel of 50k sats, yea well, you should have known that BEFORE you invested in the game, get over it...) |
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Yes, I am always willing to PM my ref links from the sites I have had success in, with a warning that this is gambling. iefken nailed it in his post above about getting in at the right time. Never trust these sites with more that you are willing to lose, no matter how sincere the OP is. I recommend pulling out after one or two cycles and only reinvest the principle you first deposited (if substantial enough) because if you continue to reinvest your profits (which most do and keep the game alive) you will eventually stop recieving those hourly payments and be left with nada.
Be wary of sites without a max deposit limit or with a high limit (3+ btc) because when people toss that amount in the pot the admins will likely run before turning those profits. Sites with low maximum deposits are the best (like btc.surf's 0.5 btc max) but even they point out that one address can make multiple deposits so... hope there aren't too many greedy people depositing 0.5 multiple times, tempting the admins.
Good luck, ponzi profiteers!
This post. We should be able to upvote it lol, mind if I copy paste it in my initial post of this thread? so that perhaps most people who do come here can read it and we can perhaps make people come to senses that, well everything what you said is real. |
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Goes to show you every seemingly legit/transparent program here WILL turn to scam. One should never bank on one of these for more than a week or so tops from the very beginning of the program.
Let's let this thread die and hopefully not another soul will make a deposit without doing his hw...
Yes, that makes this whole little world a real gamble, get in when its earning, but get out before he decides its enough, and then yea, you can get some profit hehe... |
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You mean you've found some site that promises to double your BTC and the scamming part of escaping you? Don't let yourself be fooled.
It is just a high risk investment game... everyone knows every single site is going scam (and if you do not know, then you are not ready te be on this page). It's just having luck that you can invest long enough to turn the odds for your profit, so yea, I still believe it IS the same as gambling, though a bit more peculiar since you are promised it will work. And I just like to laugh with people's post where they desperately ask for the refund of their investment lol. Call me a douche I don't care. And I do play on some of these, but even though I always hope to win, I have been pushed from my little pink cloud where magic happens, btc is real, hyip are real, doublers are real, but you ahve to be lucky to know when to get in, and when to stay out. Develop a good system for the latter, and I do believe there is much to be gained... Wish I had the skills to make a website myself. So I could myself try what is found to be a profitable way for both investors and admin... Well perhaps I should learn how to make sites lol |
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A typo is one thing but when they write in their own language but with english words (if you know what I mean) then it's just tiring to watch and try to understand what they're trying to say.
Hehe true, but not to lose this thread whilst not talking about investments... Any idea's on some new investment sites? coindoubler seems to be paying (aside from that one i brought up)... |
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I sure blockchain is not problem. Other site not problem with blockchain.
Blockchain work fine . Big problem is admin
The real problem is admin. He is secret
Blockchain has had some difficulties over the last day. There you are wrong. Considering the admin, thats yet to be proven. Problem is that the only real proof we always get, is when they run which doubler that is online now has been around for more then lets say 1month? not many i guess |
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I am sad that newbies can not join the campaign anymore. GL.
Stay actif and log in and post daily in this forum and you will reach the Jr.Member rank in few weeks usually , and then you can join this campaign , but take care and try to post only constructive posts and don't spam the threads I became jr. member after 2 weeks I think. Just just have to see that you make atleast one post a day (on average) because your activity rises with 14 every 2 weeks I think is explained on newbie sector of forum :p. |
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So apparently this compounding feature at Phoenix is a new thing added a few days ago, you can set the % you want to compound on your investment.
This will certainly save me the hassle of doing so myself every day, so I think it is a very good addition.
I hope it's not red flag. My payment from fenix has not yet come through, yours? |
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So can anyone explain this 'ingoing' payment? (check link on cryptoboost for the paid 0.67072...) check the INGOING payment to the site... It's the same wallet address...
Can anyone elaborate on that??
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Yes! 0.50 is Gone!
2016-01-23 20:22:03 1HHr4VQNqHopBUG9jaxUduE6NLQ4u6G1bF 0.03230000 0.06460000 Paid! IN | OUT
2016-01-23 20:21:56 1973MaZGVemhNZ9FZvKBuqcj2FQuijqx8k 0.02601660 0.05203320 Paid! IN | OUT
2016-01-23 20:21:39 1HhdWPLgUKWo4EmxnpEpNrpz4qPepPEjMy 0.13300000 0.26600000 Paid! IN | OUT
2016-01-23 20:21:27 15TYMdcoQWnpkXDu9ne6oWXZf3Qmn9ixT8 0.02970000 0.05940000 Paid! IN | OUT
2016-01-23 20:21:21 1KHWAG6PJCqUXxCg7n4o4VTwptXm8jXjkC 0.00100000 0.00200000 Paid! IN | OUT
2016-01-23 20:24:59 1KRuhfWattWuV9GWwVjkWADtqtMKbsePHb 0.25000000 0.50000000 Paid! IN | OUT
Lol fake payment... check the out tx... |
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Gotten 3 payments so far, hoping it will last here a while lol, just lost a decent amount on another site :p
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the first one to invest atleast 0.11 BEFORE the 1.2 btc payment gets an instant 0.15 from me!
You put in 1.2? This is an interesting offer. What time does your deposit expire? half an hour lol, and i cant seem to find 0.11 anywhere... when i get payment, you get 0.15 instant i post my credibility on the plate as well here lol If i get the 1.2 payment of course, but if i do not, then you are almost sure to get your 0.11+5% in 12 hours |
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the first one to invest atleast 0.11 BEFORE the 1.2 btc payment gets an instant 0.15 from me!
You put in 1.2? This is an interesting offer. What time does your deposit expire? half an hour lol, and i cant seem to find 0.1 anywhere... when i get payment, you get 0.15 instant i post my credibility on the plate as well here lol |
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