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261  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 07, 2023, 03:11:43 PM
It's true what you say. I think United would be better off focusing on getting a place in the top four to get a ticket to the Champions League next season. Currently they are in 6th place in the standings and they still have a very big chance of doing that. I'm not sure if they can qualify for the UEFA Europa League. And if you look at United's current quality I think it's better for them to stay focused on the EPL.
Trying to get to the top four in the Premier League will also not be easy this season, unless the Manchester United team has a new breakthrough in the way they play. Because in general Manchester United still has a lot to improve this season and they also still need to buy better players when the transfer market opens again so that they have different strengths after that.

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Many fans are urging club management to replace Ten Hag. It seems like they have given the coach many opportunities. I don't know what considerations the club management had in mind when deciding to keep Ten Hag.
Maybe the club management is looking at who is worthy to coach Manchester United, because currently Manchester United not only lacks tactics, but also lacks the best players so that Manchester United is only able to win narrowly and with certain teams, such as when facing Chelsea. Meanwhile, with a stronger team, they are likely to always lose this season.
262  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: December 07, 2023, 02:10:15 PM
If the Pramac team gets back the current specs like the factory team (in 2023, as you wrote, Pramac and the factory team had the same specs, I don't know about possible updates during the season, and all the other teams had 2022 specs), all the teams with the 2023 specs will probably get very competitive and tested bikes.
This is still possible to happen, but as seen last season or the 2023 season, Ducati itself always develops its motorbikes every season, so they also have a special agreement regarding providing motorbike specs when purchased by their own customer teams, as in three satellite teams owned by Ducati this season where Pramac gets a share of motorbike specs that are no different from the factory motorbike specs. So there is a possibility that something like that will happen again next season where the Gresini team and Rossi team will get the Gp23 spec and the Pramac team will get the Gp24 spec, although during the test there will definitely be many changes made by each team.

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It will be very difficult for Marini, Honda did not achieve much with Marc in the last 2 years and development was probably the reason why Marc changed. Marini won't be able to have much influence on the development of the current Honda for next year, so hopefully Mir has done some good groundwork.
Mir also does not have any further ability to develop Honda motorbikes during the 2023 season even though Honda itself still has high hopes for Mir to make Honda motorbikes more competitive because Santi Hernandez will handle Mir next season. Meanwhile, Marini will indeed have difficulty understanding Honda motorbikes, but that doesn't mean we have to immediately judge him as bad because he has just tried a Honda motorbike.
263  Economy / Economics / Re: World is full of things what nobody dont need just too much on: December 07, 2023, 01:59:41 PM
Traditional economic principles dictate that when there is an oversupply, prices should fall; nevertheless, the current surplus has a practical challenge-finding room for these things. This issue extends beyond tangible items to encompass fancy automobiles and even gourmet meals, resulting in an unexpected abundance. The imminent likelihood of interest rate decreases adds another dimension to the complicated issue as we navigate this age of excess, perhaps worsening the task of managing and disposing of the surplus.
Apart from that, we also have to find out about the causes of the excess supply of each item that is currently needed by many people so that prices do not continue to decrease for each item that is experiencing an excess supply. Because this will make it difficult for traders to continue selling traditionally in the market, so we as a society need to find out about the causes of this so that not many traders have to go out of business because of excess supply. Because excess supply of many goods can also worsen economic growth in the country.
264  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why Is Bitcoin Price Increasing? on: December 06, 2023, 03:56:16 PM
but at least people feel happy because of this, especially for those who are still negative and seeing this market recovery, like getting a surprise, maybe they have been waiting for a long time,so let everyone rejoice because of this.
Recovery like now is certainly something that Bitcoin holders or Bitcoin buyers have been waiting for a long time because they also want more decent profits from the efforts they have made previously. So of course it wouldn't be wrong for everyone to celebrate this joy as a victory for those who have spent as much capital as possible in the past. I am also quite happy to see this continued increase even though transaction costs are also increasing at this time.
265  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 06, 2023, 03:48:46 PM
Osimhen is a good player in my opinion. No one doubts it. Napoli's success in winning the Scudetto last season cannot be separated from Osimhen's role. He managed to become the top scorer in Serie A. Even though his performance is currently poor due to injury, he is still a great player.
And of course I heard the news that Chelsea are trying to get him signed next season. This is still speculation but I think it is very likely that Osimhen will choose to leave Napoli because of the current state of the club.
If the speculation turns out to be true, it will also be quite good for Osimhen and Chelsea because players like Osimhen are better suited to playing in the Premier League than in Serie A. Everyone probably already knows how Osimhen played last season at Napoli until Napoli won the title in Serie Last season and this season it is also very clear how Napoli are struggling for a top four position by no longer relying on Osimhen. So it would be quite good for Osimhen if the speculation could come true for him.
266  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 06, 2023, 03:25:19 PM
Although all hope is not yet lost for Manchester United but however the ability of achieving it is what matters because if you check there group table you will see that  Copenhagen and Galatasaray is on 5 points while Manchester United is on the 4 points so however there prayers should be for Galatasaray and Copenhagen to play draw, and if they eventually win Bayern Munich they automatically have 7 point while Copenhagen and Galatasaray will both have 6 points and then Manchester United will qualify as the second position while Bayern Munich qualify as the first, but however the question is that can Manchester United win Bayern Munich?.
It is difficult to say that Manchester United will be able to win when they face Bayern Munich in the last match in this group stage, because with Manchester United's current condition it will always be difficult for them to beat Bayern Munich, which looks very strong in the Champions League this season. Apart from that, Copenhagen and Galatasaray will also try not to lose in their final match so that the opportunity for Manchester United to qualify for the next round will be difficult and could even disappear this season.
267  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: December 06, 2023, 02:21:59 PM
With the teams you mentioned, it will also be interesting to see which Ducati specification they get, even if the 2022 Ducati version will probably still be competitive, it will be interesting to see if a team gets the 2024 factory specification, but I don't think so.
If we look at the season that has finished, the Pramac Racing team got the same specification motorbike as the factory Ducati team, so there is a possibility that the Pramac Racing team for next season can get the same motorbike specs again as the factory Ducati motorbike. So of course this will be quite interesting considering that the Gp23 motorbike is also quite competitive and not bad for next season and this will also make the level of competition more competitive next season.

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The Rossi team have a very good rider pairing, as you wrote, and will also surprise or even win next season, Marini (even though he is Rossi's half-brother) was too weak for me and I'm curious to see how he does in the Honda factory team, if he doesn't make the breakthrough there his career after Honda will probably be over.
The Honda manufacturer is not included in the competitive teams in the season that has finished so it is very important for Marini to bring in and make new breakthroughs at the Honda manufacturer because Marquez's departure from Honda could certainly be quite a difficult blow for the Honda manufacturer. So Marini must be able to do something useful for Honda so that the Japanese manufacturer can return to a more competitive path next season. As for the Rossi team, I think it is quite suitable for the two riders who will be relied on next season because both of them will also ride Ducati motorbikes with not so many updates.
268  Economy / Economics / Re: How to be more effective working remotely. on: December 06, 2023, 01:53:12 PM
If anyone says that the success rate using remote work patterns is small then I am sure they do not understand the sophistication of technology, unless work cannot be done remotely. I prefer to work like this compared to having to go to the office in the morning and come home at night because our freedom is much greater and it's just a matter of taste for freedom at work.
In fact, working in the office or at home both have different levels of freedom, for example your freedom when you work in your own home without a boss beside you or away from the supervision of your own boss. Meanwhile, those who work in the office and away from home also have freedom in certain sectors, such as being away from their partner or children, which in general can also be an obstacle to working when they don't want to play outside the house. But you will not be free from being monitored by your own boss when you are in the office.

Wink Those who work remotely are usually people who are selected and have a high work track record and are able to adapt to current technological developments and are used to it. His duties are usually special, for example providing clear direction regarding decision making by presenting data and facts if at any time he cannot be present at work.
I also often find people like that in my life where they often leave home to work and give directions to other workers in the office or at certain companies. Usually such people are people who have important positions in a company or office so they spend more time traveling than in their office. However, we also have to be more aware that not everyone can be like that, so we have to look at a more general sector in matters like this so that the understanding can be clearer.

being able to control remote work is commonplace in the current era, because of the limitations of distance and time, this is an effective way to control it. especially during the recent pandemic, many people also worked from home, they communicated with each other long distance, but also still produced. Therefore, we should always be able to adapt to developments over time so that we can use them well to support our activities.
In this era, the more valuable thing in work is time other than our own energy and thoughts. Because if we are able to use less time to complete more work by relying on technology and other supporting devices for a lot of work, I think people who can do that are very smart and extraordinary people. Because when there is more free time, it will certainly be easier for us to use that time for other work. So no time can be wasted even if we just do it from our own home in better ways and also make it easier for us to do it.
269  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far on: December 05, 2023, 04:54:11 PM
To be honest, I'm surprised that BTC can reach 40k. It seems that BTC will soon go down because it has been rising continuously for the past 2 months.
but if btc will continue to rise, is this not called a bull trap anymore??
For an increase in prices like what is currently happening or has occurred over the last two months, it is more appropriate to call it a bull run and I do not think that a decline will occur again in the near future. Even if there is another price decline in the market for Bitcoin, I think it will only be a normal correction and will not be too big because the current market trend has really improved and is even better than the last two months, so I am more confident for increases that will continue rather than for price decreases in the near future.
270  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 05, 2023, 04:43:37 PM
I know Luton Town is struggling currently, but this is the premier league, and anything is possible. Don't be surprised if Luton Town beats or draws Arsenal at home today but till then, Arsenal is the favorite team to go home with the three points.
Even though anything is possible in the Premier League, if the opponent is a fairly weak team like Luton Town, it will be a good opportunity for Arsenal to get full points at home to Luton Town. Even though Luton Town also held Liverpool to a draw at their own home, this time the situation may be very different because Arsenal is a team that has the ability and strength to win at the home of a very weak opponent like Luton Town.
271  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: December 05, 2023, 04:20:17 PM
If they are relegated from League 1, this will cause bad news for the management because the fans will want them to stop managing the team. In order for Lyon, which is in an important place in League 1, to overcome this bad situation, the management needs to do great work during the halftime.
It would clearly be very bad for Lyon if the team actually experienced relegation this season, because previously the Lyon team was quite good in Ligue1. And in the near future, Lyon will also face Marseille, who previously won at home when they hosted Rennes, so it will be quite difficult for Lyon to beat Marseille in the near future if Lyon doesn't work hard and get better performance. Because Marseille is of course still very enthusiastic about winning the next match which will take place at home.
272  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: December 05, 2023, 04:11:15 PM
afaik from comments on youtube and from local sports news, the type of motorbike used by marc in yesterday's test was the ducati desmosedici gp24 which will be used by bagnaia next season. this type of motorbike is claimed to be faster, lighter and more powerful, which bagnaia really likes.
Maybe there is a mistake with this news because Marquez is on the Gresini Racing team, which incidentally always uses a motorbike that is a year older than the motorbike from the Ducati factory team itself. So what Marquez used during the test in Valencia was a Ducati Gp23 motorbike, which is likely the same motorbike used by Johan Zarco this season.

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compared to the gp22 that will be used by marc in the next season, it seems that marc will have a little difficulty seeing the excellent specifications of the gp24 that will be used by his opponent. but marc himself is confident in the motorbike he uses, considering that the gp22 was once used by bagnaia to win the world championship and with further tuning by the gresini team and marc's skills, it is not impossible that marc will become more competitive in the next season. .
There is indeed a possibility for Marquez to be competitive again next season on a Ducati motorbike, because the Gresini Racing team received a GP23 motorbike like the one used by the Pramac Racing team this season. Meanwhile, next season the factory team and Pramac Racing will get GP24 motorbikes for the four riders from these two teams. So this will certainly be quite interesting next season because there are many strong riders at Ducati and also in other factory teams who will try to be the best riders next season.
273  Economy / Economics / Re: Luxury and spending lifestyle fastest way to poverty rich kids on: November 30, 2023, 02:40:45 PM
I think those who teach their children well will not be affected by this.
Usually a businessman will teach his children not to waste money, but to take advantage of existing facilities instead of spending money blindly, although not all teach them like that. Rich people actually always inherit their wealth to the next generation.
This is indeed quite appropriate to do because it makes perfect sense for rich people to pass on their knowledge and wealth to the next generation, and in this case their own children. I am also quite sure that rich people will teach their children about good things and also about how to use money well for everything that is needed. This is quite common for everyone, especially rich people whose souls are business people who have been successful in that field for a long time.

I agree, Businessman teach their children how to do some chores in their own wihout asking for help from some of their house mates. This kind of training are usually doing by a chinese businessman wherein they always tesch  their child how to save money and invest it at their young age,They didn't tolerate a child being spoiled so that they can get along other people as well as their own employee.
Chinese business people have a better concept in this regard because they really want to see their children be able to live independently and want to save for the future and be able to run their own business with direction from their own parents. Successful business people usually really value the time and money they have so they will not allow their children to spend excessive amounts of money on unnecessary things. And we can take this as a pretty good example for our own lives.
274  Economy / Speculation / Re: Should I still hold the investment or sell it? on: November 30, 2023, 02:21:50 PM
it is good for you to start investing  and since you are still young ? try to extend more and more mate because your investment will bring you more success in the long run ,
just trust your guts since I can smell you believing in bitcoin and the technology behind this .
Those who already believe in Bitcoin and the technology behind it are very worthy of investing in the long term because this has also been proven quite accurately by old investors who also believe in Bitcoin. So expanding or adding more investment in Bitcoin is not a wrong choice because it will be good enough for us as long as our way of life is never disturbed by it.

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You have no need to ask us the question , because you are clear of not needing the money for now so why just let it there for longer time?
try to look back next year and if you are not contented to what will bring you ? then try more again in the coming years.
Next year is a pretty good opportunity for investors who started investing last year, because investors who dared to buy more last year will definitely have experienced extraordinary wins this year and there will be even more next year because of the potential and Better opportunities could also occur next year. So it's better not to ignore the opportunities that will occur in the next year so that we can all experience even more extraordinary benefits from Bitcoin.
275  Economy / Speculation / Re: If bitcoin will accepted worldwide for legal then price rising $100k?? on: November 30, 2023, 01:37:39 PM
What was Bitcoin's last ATH? Did it reach $69 000 in the market, right? Is it true these days that all countries have accepted Bitcoin? are not the only few countries that still recognize it. And most haven't, really.

What does that mean, if most countries are not completely ready to adopt Bitcoin, but its market ATH value has reached such a level, how much more if all countries have accepted Bitcoin, eh, probably quickly in 24 hours the price value of Bitcoin will suddenly reach more than 100k$?

If all countries in the world were ready to accept and adopt Bitcoin and use it like they use fiat in life, perhaps the conditions would be very different because a very extraordinary increase could occur directly in Bitcoin. But the ATH that Bitcoin has achieved in the range of $69K is purely because of the trust of many people in Bitcoin, not because all countries have approved Bitcoin.

So in terms of the next ATH value in Bitcoin it will probably be close to $100K if the number of people who believe in Bitcoin continues to increase and it is highly hoped that these people will come from company bosses or from the top officials of other great countries. So it will have a greater influence on increasing the price of Bitcoin than before.
276  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 30, 2023, 09:57:15 AM
I do not know what was the game plan for Bayern Munich's game against Copenhagen because they played with their first eleven and they could not score a single goal even though they wanted a draw match. Harry Kane should have used clubs like Copenhagen to boost his chances of winning the Uefa Champions League top scorer but Bayern Munich failed to help Harry Kane achieve that.
Bayern Munich are no longer hunting for victory when facing Copenhagen because Bayern Munich already know that they have already qualified for the next round even though Harry Kane can actually use this match to score more goals this season to gain an advantage in other sectors. But Bayern Munich may have thought differently not to put all their energy into a match that no longer has any effect for them, because Bayern Munich's goal is to win the group and also qualify for the next round of the Champions League.
277  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: November 30, 2023, 09:19:31 AM
Bagnaia did exceptionally well to achieve that in the last race,even in Italy they are showing him as a World Champion already in the publicity they make for TIM-Telecom Italia.Martin I think had made his choice the moment he signed a contract with Honda and most likely his head is already there,if Honda builds a great bike he would have the honor to ride it and become World Champion with a Honda bike,something he did not achieve with the Ducatti team he is racing so far.

One thing is sure without racing until March it will be a very boring period.
Martin will still race with Pramac Racing next season and the seat at factory Honda next season has been taken by Marini who moved from Mooney VR46, so Martin will still race for the same team next season with the Ducati GP24 motorbike, which is the same motorbike as motorbike on the factory Ducati team. It looks like the December to March period won't be so boring because we can watch pre-season tests and motorbike development from all manufacturers.

When have Martin signed a contract with Honda, Marini switch to Honda? Next year's driver pairings will be as follows.

and yes it's a long time to the MotoGP start next year.
Maybe what @swogerino meant was Marini, not Martin because as can be seen in the list you shared, it is also very clear that it was Marini who was on the Honda after rumors went viral before the last round of the title season. I am waiting for better developments at the two Japanese manufacturers for next season because both of them have also been given concessions by Dorna for next season. So that Honda and Yamaha can have more freedom in developing their engines.
278  Economy / Economics / Re: How do you work toward hodling bitcoin? on: November 29, 2023, 01:39:12 PM
When planning to hodl bitcoin it is important for one to be able to provide a source of income for provision and to solve problems,  if source of income is not available it is impossible to hodl bitcoin because when their is problem it only the investment people will look on to to get money to solve problems and at the end of it, it will be impossible for hodling Bitcoin to take place. When their is source of income one won't even have the time to depend on the investment.
Someone who has a real source of income will not experience any difficulties in their own life, so it will be easier for such a person when they want to become an investor or trader in the market in any sector. And it is true that someone who has more sources of income in his life will also find it easier to implement Bitcoin hodling because he does not need to sacrifice all his assets to solve every problem that arises in his own life, so every thing that everyone wants to do must have a basis. on their respective sources of income.

Indeed, at least people who invest must have loose funds so that these funds can settle for years, until they can finally be withdrawn when they have doubled in the future. Most people want to get instant results and that is clearly not possible in the current situation. on the other hand, we must have knowledge about what we are investing in, remembering that without knowledge we will definitely get lost, luck will not come again and again.
Apart from the knowledge regarding what we are going to invest in, initial funds are also really needed for this because any investment will not be able to be carried out if there is no initial funds for investment even though a person has studied a lot in terms of science. Likewise, when a person has initial funds and other sources of income for his own life, he must also use the time to study the knowledge of what he will invest in later. So these three have become very important for everyone who wants to comfortably invest in Bitcoin or whatever we like in life.

before you invest in anything, Ask yourself first if you are willing to invest for short term or long term, If you choose the latter then you should know everything about it, from the history and its potential because you had to put your trust and money to invest. Always remember that there's no easy money and if you want to get instant result in investment which is too good to be true then you have to prepare for the possible consequences of the things that you want to happen.
I still think that in this life nothing can be achieved instantly, because every thing definitely requires a process and a way to achieve it. Even if there are things that can be achieved instantly in this life, usually those things will not last long and things that can last a long time are usually not obtained instantly through this life. So it is very important to know about the history of the assets we want to invest in before we decide for short or long term duration, because this is based on our desires and the capabilities we currently have.
279  Economy / Speculation / Re: Has anybody expected this? on: November 29, 2023, 12:57:57 PM
I also feel surprised, this year's November and December should have been a sharp decline, but instead the market is moving up and seems unpredictable, is this something real and can change the historical charts, but many say that history will always repeat itself, or is it too much? lots of intervention from various parties so that the market pattern changes drastically?
Market patterns will not always be the same every year and it is very natural that you have seen changes in market patterns this month. Because the sense that history may repeat itself is at the rate of increase and decrease only, not in what month Bitcoin will decrease or in what month Bitcoin will increase. So you have to understand this differently because the pattern of increases and decreases for Bitcoin will always exist, but no one will be able to guess exactly in what month these two things will happen again for Bitcoin.

The world of trading is always dynamic and what we previously predicted would and might happen sometimes does not happen referring to event data and today there was a reversal. Personally, I might not focus too much on this, indeed history is data that is very helpful in analysis when the role returns. If you want to maximize all components must be estimated, especially now. Regarding market sentiment, in my opinion there is more good than bad so that investor expectations no longer hesitate and think a lot about entering the market. Additionally, I think it's time for BTC to recover after a deep correction in early 2023.
Bitcoin's recovery at the end of this month was also caused by the increasing confidence of new investors this year in Bitcoin, so what we are seeing now is a very natural thing to happen to Bitcoin because market conditions are now slowly starting to improve. Investors' expectations for next year are so high that there are many investors who want to spend their money to buy Bitcoin this year to get what they are dreaming of now through the crypto space.

I'm thinking how would he call November and December to be a Sharp Decline ? maybe November has a little bit but December? am not sure if this is truly a bad month because according to my experiences?
December is the most bullied Month of the year but not the whole month because mostly it changes before the month ents.
and according to what expected by some predictors ? we will be hitting 40k and above by this end year.
If we look at several years, especially in December, there are always price changes in the market for Bitcoin, whether it is a change from an increase in price to a decrease or vice versa, as we are seeing now. I also think that what some forecasters are hoping for will probably happen this year, namely for $40K in the price of Bitcoin even though for now the price of Bitcoin itself is still at $38K, but there is a possibility that Bitcoin could be at $40K next month If price improvements like now can continue to occur in the market.
280  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: November 29, 2023, 12:04:10 PM
Of course, this season Juventus is the most favored to get the Scudetto trophy this season, because as you said, Juventus doesn't have a big schedule so the players' fitness and concentration don't decrease. This is very different from other Scudetto competitors who have very busy schedules, of course their stamina will be drained and players will even easily suffer injuries which will make them unable to compete for the Scudetto trophy.
As long as Inter Milan is still strong enough and its main players do not suffer more injuries, it looks like the competition between Inter Milan and Juventus will continue to be fierce until the end of this season. Because even though Inter Milan has a busy playing schedule and Juventus is not like that, Inter Milan will still have the potential to get the Scudetto trophy this season as long as Inter Milan never makes any mistakes in the match or can continue to get points while competing in Serie A this season

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So in essence, if asked who has the most potential to win the Scudetto this season, the answer is of course Juventus, but with the condition that you must not underestimate any opponent, and Allegri must be able to use all his organizational abilities. strategy in each match so that you can remain consistent.
At the moment it cannot be said like that because Inter Milan is still the leader of the Serie A standings even though Juventus is also very close to Inter Milan in the runner-up position in the standings. Because Juventus fans still have to hope that Juventus can overtake Inter Milan in the next match or hope that Inter Milan can lose or draw in the next match so that Juventus can take first place from Inter Milan even though they have to win the match.
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