No How we can trust a guy like rijk  This guy spend all the day long to moderate the slak ... It is not supposed to be a DEV and DEV the gulden ? yes we can ,he have BALL's ,he is the BOSS , true ALPHA , a LEADER if you want,a MAN with a VISION,so he can do whatever he find's neccessery to make Gulden to be a success . Relax grandpa, have some coolaid  |
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 Only half a Bitcoin to get to 500sat gents, not the most promising times I would say  |
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This is the future ? https://powercompare.co.uk/bitcoin/ die for Bitcoin run for oil or coal, maybe in the future will be prohibited minig Bitcoin /snap/ Of course there are better places to invest in last 11 months, each of your own decisions. There are so many different currencies in the world and they are fine. In the virtual world there is a place for Gulden. Not everyone has to use Gulden. I suppose in the Netherlands in every town and city is from one to several dozen Gulden users. https://guldennodes.com Gulden have the opportunity to take regular payments and goes in a good direction "GREEN" not wasting so much energy. PoW˛ /snap/ Finally a modest and decent post from a Gulden member. Factual as well! Total energy consumption of Bitcoin is less than 6% of all energy wasted in the US alone by devices that are on standby though, so I don't really think that will ever become an issue. I like the modest approach though, makes me feel less anarchistic  Please give link where the information comes from "6% of all energy wasted in the US alone" because it's really interesting to predict what's going to happen in the future. Sure: http://www.maxkeiser.com/2017/11/did-anyone-do-even-a-minimal-check-on-the-sensationalist-bitcoin-electrical-consumption-story/#more-85166 |
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This is the future ? https://powercompare.co.uk/bitcoin/ die for Bitcoin run for oil or coal, maybe in the future will be prohibited minig Bitcoin /snap/ Of course there are better places to invest in last 11 months, each of your own decisions. There are so many different currencies in the world and they are fine. In the virtual world there is a place for Gulden. Not everyone has to use Gulden. I suppose in the Netherlands in every town and city is from one to several dozen Gulden users. https://guldennodes.com Gulden have the opportunity to take regular payments and goes in a good direction "GREEN" not wasting so much energy. PoW˛ /snap/ Finally a modest and decent post from a Gulden member. Factual as well! Total energy consumption of Bitcoin is less than 6% of all energy wasted in the US alone by devices that are on standby though, so I don't really think that will ever become an issue. I like the modest approach though, makes me feel less anarchistic |
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Could you please stop whining about persons involved and stop whining about marketing missing.
You are looking for a pump and dump coin. Gulden is NOT.
Please do go invest in other coins, there are plenty.
Let us patient Gulden ethusiasts be. We do not need to be saved by you.
On the contrary, we will happily wave you goodbye while we take off.
Thank you for exactly making my point! |
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Since I've shown to be less effective in calculating stuff, I once more want to emphasize the fact that this entire project is heisted by that one guy you are all talking about. Rijk Plasman. You see, he truly has produced a coin that indeed has many advantages compared to other coins. He also has managed to push a single (very skilled) developer in a direction that actually makes sense in this crazy crypto world. The remaining trouble is though, he is not doing this in favor of the people that get behind it. He is not emotionally, nor intentionally involved with them at all. He only cares for one thing, that is his own ego being fed with stuff you guys can't even think of. This makes this project so scary. It has all the right developments, yet it gets pushed back time and time again. This can only happen because the narcist disordered lead developer that holds all the keys is intentionally keeping natural progress back. Not because he wants it to derail, but because he needs to keep utter and total control over his ego tripping enabler. So let me be clear again (this time without the miscalculations), You are all cheering Gulden for the right reasons, but at the same time are missing the punch line! Might I suggest watching THE WAVE? <- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wave_(2008_film) |
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Ok, lets forget about Rijk and his personality for a while and stick to hard facts here then:
The question by the op on June 2 2016 was: "Is Gulden a good investment?"
1 BTC on June 2 2016 was worth $ 535.00, now it's worth $ 9,670. A profit of 1800%
That same BTC would have bought you 256,426 NLG (@389 sat) on that same date,
Which at current rate of 1,000 sat would give you back 2.57 BTC. A profit of 257%
Answer?: NO, if you kept your BTC you would have 7 x as much profit!
Ha haa You can't calculate, You shows that Gulden is 2,57 times more worth than that single bitcoin you started with  So the Gulden profit in that period is about 4700% On june 2 2016 the Guldenprice was €0,0017 And Now it is €0,08. So a factor 47 higher Yeah...lol I did even notice it at first! So, you see @Richpissman you had the answer right in front of your eyes! But you misread it! Hope your bags are full, they should be by now! In all fairness, I must confess I totally miscalculated this one, true! Thanks for the correction. |
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Ok, lets forget about Rijk and his personality for a while and stick to hard facts here then:
The question by the op on June 2 2016 was: "Is Gulden a good investment?"
1 BTC on June 2 2016 was worth $ 535.00, now it's worth $ 9,670. A profit of 1800%
That same BTC would have bought you 256,426 NLG (@389 sat) on that same date,
Which at current rate of 1,000 sat would give you back 2.57 BTC. A profit of 257%
Answer?: NO, if you kept your BTC you would have 7 x as much profit!
Quoted so people can see how clueless you are Dito |
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Ok, lets forget about Rijk and his personality for a while and stick to hard facts here then:
The question by the op on June 2 2016 was: "Is Gulden a good investment?"
1 BTC on June 2 2016 was worth $ 535.00, now it's worth $ 9,670. A profit of 1800%
That same BTC would have bought you 256,426 NLG (@389 sat) on that same date,
Which at current rate of 1,000 sat would give you back 2.57 BTC. A profit of 257%
Answer?: NO, if you kept your BTC you would have 7 x as much profit!
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@above
Please stop repeating yourself.
This thread is called: "Is Gulden a good investment?"
Your opinion is clear by now.
And your non-stop insults and accusations are non-contributing to the thread.
Gulden is a company operating in a professional manner.
Gulden will not be rushed into actions by people shouting at the sidelines.
In my opinion Gulden is a very good investment for the near future.
It has the team, the funding and history shows the team always delivered.
Yes, there are delays, but all due to a total commitment to quality.
I respect that.
Trouble is, Rijk has no respect for anyone that even slightly disagrees with his agenda. Therefor I shall never shut up in here, because it's the only place that is not completely censored by his dictatorship. If you don't like the truth to be repeated to you every time you fanboys start shouting " Heil Rijk!" over and over again, stick to your highly moderated and extremely closed slack channels, but don't expect the ones outside your jerk circle to shut up, just because you don't like to hear the truth! |
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This is the classic amateurism I'm talking about. We got great plans, but we're not concretely saying what and when. Is this an interview or an ego trip? See you in three years? Imagine if somebody delivers this shit at a shareholders' meeting. We don't really know who is watching and waiting for news about the PoW2 and SegSig update. When Rijk delivers this project and there is no attention given then marketing needs to be his main focus in 2018. This project should put Gulden in the top 20 but I have my doubts about a top 50 because of the bad marketing. The above is speculation on marketing and we won't know until PoW2 and SegSig is released. It's easy, no speculation needed here. Rijk hates marketeers and entrepreneurs and has no incentive to make Gulden a financial success since he is already sitting on a fat bag of $ 4.000.000,- he got from the community. He truly could care less if Gulden dropped out of the top 200 of CMC, he is safely covered by a shitload of BTC. Unfortunately for the ones that gave him those BTC, they have to wait for eons and hope one day someone by accident discovers Guldens potential and makes sure their investment is being handled the way it should be. |
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 " Gulden not done by far..." Well, ain't that the truth! " ...but people are done with Gulden by now!" |
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Wow Rijk deleted his messages on the slack when he throwed a tantrum ...
No view , no fear
May be he realized if he continue like that he will be alone on the slack with his ss friends
SS friends ? who is the minister of propaganda and marketing? Probably Aat Nottheworst and Bram Failinggood as his secretary |
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haha this is getting out of hand, please stop with the whole daughter thing
Well, it is pretty funny and not far from the truth. (Hope I won't get banned on the Slack for this. )I wish Rijk would be more open to things but I guess he has his reasons otherwise he wouldn't risk hurting parts of the community that supports Gulden. I asked in the original thread when and how did the rupture between Gulden and Bitcointalk happen but I got no answer. I'm still curious about it. I think it was Gulden user that said in the old announcement page that none of the bitcointalk users contributed to the development team and all they did was whine without contributing. 100% of the funding came from the slack community who were new to crypto. I bet if the bitcointalk community had actually contributed Gulden devs would still post here. Even some of that Slack group you describe are banned now for simple questions like "any insight in what happens to our funds?" A lot of the initial Bitcointalk users contributed loads and loads to the project. Rijk however managed to chase them all away and kept going to grow his brainwashed inner circle. The ones outside that circle were lucky enough not to fall for his scam. The ones inside provided him with a $ 4.000.000,- stash of cash of which he only paid less than 5% on development. While a lot of those "innercircle" members are desperately begging for some marketing so their investment at least gets back to an acceptable level of loss-taking, he refuses to even approve well planned campaigns, let alone fund them with the cash they themselves provided! Even Robert Mugabe would be embarrassed by this type of abuse! |
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Well, it is pretty funny and not far from the truth. (Hope I won't get banned on the Slack for this. )I wish Rijk would be more open to things but I guess he has his reasons otherwise he wouldn't risk hurting parts of the community that supports Gulden. I asked in the original thread when and how did the rupture between Gulden and Bitcointalk happen but I got no answer. I'm still curious about it. Just look at it from the positive side. Less users on slack should mean dev being less active on slack more time for work DD (Dictator Dev) Rijk doesn't do any real work on the Gulden code, he leaves that up to the cheap labour in South Africa. All he does is moderate all community channels in an excessive way. So less community means he has more time to spend his newly acquired wealth, thanks to that same community. |
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alleen in nederland kunnen we heel trots gulden gebruiken maar een echte grote coin wordt t nooit.
Er er zijn teveel Gulden coins uitgegeven naar mijn mening, dagelijks stroomt er 5 btc aan nieuwe Guldens de markt in. egulden heeft veel minder tokens, minder kans op inflatie. Beide coins hebben een flinke premine. Wellicht is het een idee een nieuwe Gulden uit te brengen met minder tokens. |
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Hello ,
I was a gulden enthousiast...
Your experience is not unique. I sometimes ask myself what the hell is going on in Rijk Plasman's head. Maybe he met a bad accident at a young age. Rijk is like a over protective father and Gulden is his daughter. A lot of guys want to fuck his daughter but he blocks them before they can get in. He really hates the rich guys using money to try get his Gulden in the sack and he kicks them out. Rijk might be many things but one thing he is not, is good at marketing. It's more like he is jealous of all fathers that are experienced with their daughters and like to share that experience on the playground with him. He can't stand the fact that his daughter is getting socially and emotionally messed up like himself because he won't let her play outside with the other children, but refuses to listen to well meant advise at the same time. Meanwhile more and more well meaning fathers give up and start minding the group of children that are allowed to play, while his daughter gets behind on that group even more. |
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Hello ,
I was a gulden enthousiast...
Your experience is not unique. I sometimes ask myself what the hell is going on in Rijk Plasman's head. Maybe he met a bad accident at a young age. Truth is, he has been standing in the shadows of his bully father too long. He now finally gets to bully others himself. |
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The 24h volume on Bleutrade was $1700, that's a lot of money for a lot of people. You know what seems to be the target demographic of Guldens, Joe 6-pack/Joey bag-o' donuts.  Sure this volume of trading isn't going to send Gulden to the moon anytime soon but for a lot of people it's a substantial amount of money. For sure Bittrex is the go to exchange for Gulden but there is a lot to be said for the direct access to/exit from the Gulden market through Guldentrader/Nocks and Litebit. Trying to untether a crypto from bitcoins volatile price fluctuations seems difficult. It's a long road to achieve some independency but to standalone might be the best course for survival. I don't need more examples and price comparisons of how Bitcoin has outperformed Gulden etc, the fact remains that if Bitcoin plummets for whatever reason it might take down a lot of cryptos in its wake.There, we agree! No matter how much Bitcoin has outperformed Gulden, once it goes down, Gulden takes the lead, face down in the dirt! Well I found out today that some HEAVY hitters are watching NLG but they need proof that PoW2 and SegSig is being released. Hold tight this could be a ride of a life time. Nope, it was just a plain Pump and Dump group:  Sorry you got all excited over nothing It failed miserably btw:  |
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