I'd really love to see the lisk foundation fund a second client led by an independent team. The progress has been too slow and I'm honestly as frustrated as you guys here.
By looking at commits in Github, I don't know what Oliver does all day. It looks like he stops coding and does other things. Max has a lot of money to hire competent developers. For example, if Max who buy from the team or are looking for people from outside to replace Oliver, but not recklessly to choose someone not, must be truly reliable .. Has something happened to Oliver? He's been completely absent from Lisk chat, community meetings,... Blog post from Oliver one hour ago: https://blog.lisk.io/cleaning-up-our-github-organization-and-enhancing-documentation-d235dc822a19
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Do you forget how much these assholes raised or is it you just have not the slightest clue to development costs? they could hire a team of 5 on a very good salary and still pay themselves the stupid ass amount they likely are for years to come. I would love to know why they are hoarding the ico funds and not recruiting the best. "It's their money now" All they need to do is the bear minimum and you suckers lap it up, yay they made a commit or update. Whoopie fucking dooooooo you clowns stop sucking them off and demand change. Having a lot of moneys doesn't meant to paid more than reasonable. I like that Max is not wasting investor moneys and careful on it. You have no ideas. Research and come back after that we will discuss more.
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I'd really love to see the lisk foundation fund a second client led by an independent team. The progress has been too slow and I'm honestly as frustrated as you guys here.
So please focus your adviser work like you are doing in ETC. Send good devs from IOHK HQ with reasonable salary, they are hiring back end devs now. For two months time frame from ICO funds accept, they have done a lot of progress. Best regard.
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We will never know the bottom because investors panic and can dump Lisk to nothing, the 14000btc or $15,000,000 belong to Max and Oliver, it have nothing to do with Lisk price at this point. The only benefit to Lisk price from the 1400btc ICO is if Max and Oliver decided to buy back Lisk, which is not possible as BTC is gold and Lisk is worthless crap. Also Max and Oliver still have 4million Lisk each plus almost 10million more Lisk under their control. Also we have whale which have 8 million, I once saw 2 sell walls of 4 million each then disappeared, he could have more. Smart investors don't use BTC for buying altcoins in long-term investment. They spend only fiat money or USDT for buying altcoins. I spend usd/usdt for byuing DASH(~2,85 usdt), Monero(~1,35 usdt), Litecoin(~1,7 usd) and i can take a good profit, but I still hold them. http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/lisk/#markets6 Livecoin LSK/USD $240 $0.139550 0.29% Recently 7 BitBay LSK/PLN $143 $0.140064 0.18% Recently 10 Jubi LSK/CNY $8 $0.126485 0.01% Recently 11 BitBay LSK/USD $1 $0.210000 0.00% Recently 13 HitBTC LSK/EUR $0 $0.120514 0.00% Recently 20 BitBay LSK/EUR $0 $0.052811 0.00% Recently 21 BitBays LSK/CNY $0 $0.127939 0.00% Recently I really want to buy Lisk with fiat. But there is no volume you see. The best solution now is buy BTC and change immediately it to Lisk. Then calculate with your fiat cost.
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Pls vote for communitypool!!!Pool - communitypoolReward - 75%Payout period - 2weeksMininum vote weight - 5000 LSKCapped approval - 8% (No more voters will get reward after pool meet 8% approval for high reward)Current approval - 3.03% (4.97% left)Full Proposal - https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=1268&p=9802#p9802 3.11% now. Thank all voters.
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ok good luck to you. i don't hope that LISK fails, I rather hope that LISK actually succeeds and make people happy. I know a lot of scam coins have been going on, and hope LISK does not become a failure.
There's always shills on every forum so don't consider me a FUD just because I'm posting negative view of LISK's future - maybe I just hope people don't lose money ?
Normally a lot of FUD increasing these days. Never seen like that. May be because of price decline but most have nonsense. All I can say is Lisk is not scam, one of huge potential project. Come and join lisk.chat if you interest to analyze on Lisk. Lisk devs active there. Not only in price, but also more technically.
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why not? you could just be pumping LISK just so people can lose money, and getting paid by side.
I don't know what your intention is.
Fact is that LISK has been producting no results, and price has been going down. Everyone with good intention would tell people to stay away from LISK.
and you? who knows.
Well, ok. My investment in Lisk is 3200$. And this is all for me and still buying. So I am digging Lisk everyday, stay active inside community, watching on my investment safe or not. And still faith on it. ICO funds accept 7weeks ago and a lot of done inside. Before this, it is hard to speed up. Saturation are changed. Price is cheap. If there is no result in 2017, I will leave it. Let see what they can do in Q1/2 2017.
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how much LISK do you have invested?
This is outside our discussion, you don't need to know it.
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5 developers? leaver it... does max know C programming? answer that Lisk is running on Javascript. No need to know C programming. This is why I am telling you about Logic.
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correct me if i'm wrong.
when Max launched the ICO he said that the project would be run as a transparent non-profit with minimal salaries and benefits. i think he said that in this thread.
now it's the exact opposite. there's a for profit private company with zero transparency, a black box. there's no opportunity to know what salaries are being paid (market rate or excessive), no public contract tendering, and no accountability. i don't think people participated in the ICO on this basis. it feels like a clear case of deception.
perhaps i'm being unkind, but this has to be said.
Pls read my old post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1346646.msg17941482#msg17941482 .
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i am helping people saving their hard earned money..so im doing my things .. and u do ur things what u have been paid for...
You can, but pls logically instead of nonsense. I appreciate ur minds. But you are on wrong channel. Logically? ok tell me how much money u made on this? Still nothing if you meant in Lisk. Price is downtrend and I am patience and still faith on Lisk. If you meant signature campaign, you can dig previous pages before campaign. I am already active here. And I don't understand why you annoying on this.
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i am helping people saving their hard earned money..so im doing my things .. and u do ur things what u have been paid for...
You can, but pls logically instead of nonsense. I appreciate ur minds. But you are on wrong channel.
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keep that to urself and do these scam promotion. and take peoples money .. good luck
Point me something scam you found on Lisk logically or stop annoying here. Do another good things son.
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Max, can you please be more transparent about 200k that are spend on marketing, support and developing. Who is paid out of that, for how much hours of work etc.
It will transparent with first quarter report. Lightcurve is also Lisk. Due to Germany Laws, Lisk failed to set up Lisk GmbH in past yr. Then they set up Swiss non-profit foundation and already founded. Non-profit Cryptocurrency Organization is a new business model that many governments are not familiar with it. So they founded Lightcurve GmbH as consultant company. It will smooth Lisk development in Germany. "As progress is made, the Foundation will supervise the work done by individual, independent contractors and will continue to provide financial reports to our community on a regular basis. Additionally, lightcurve plans to hire additional, experienced software developers and marketing coordinators to work on the Lisk project."Source: https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-collaborates-with-blockchain-consultancy-lightcurve-b862c2f49ad5#.iv68x1pgq
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13 cents. Is Lisk dying?
that is my question too. and honestly, i see it dropping. seems like i should sell and buy stratis, maybe re-buy lisk in 5 months. this is a joke, fucking joke. Good luck. But I am sure Lisk can't cheap like now after 5 moths later. would you like to make a side bet? 5 months will be july - i bet the SDK will not be ready by july.. only more of funds spent on "things and stuff". especially if in 5 months BTC is 1500. lisk will be 10 cents. We can deal in every situration. SDK is the major boost. Yep, BTC can be 1500, so Lisk Funding ICO will be $ 15M at least.
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Pls vote for communitypool!!!Pool - communitypoolReward - 75%Payout period - 2weeksMininum vote weight - 5000 LSKCapped approval - 8% (No more voters will get reward after pool meet 8% approval for high reward)Current approval - 3.03% (4.97% left)Full Proposal - https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=1268&p=9802#p9802
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13 cents. Is Lisk dying?
that is my question too. and honestly, i see it dropping. seems like i should sell and buy stratis, maybe re-buy lisk in 5 months. this is a joke, fucking joke. Good luck. But I am sure Lisk can't cheap like now after 5 moths later.
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