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2601  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: January 05, 2017, 09:01:13 PM
So who is your god?..
The god we all read in the bible?..No1
Something made all this so must be a god?..I.E you made your own god up?..No2

What is it 1 or 2..

See the trouble is your reading olden day thinkers..
WHAT WE THINKS YESTERDAY IS NOT WHAT WE THINKS TODAY Grin..
No time in the history of mankind has faith in God been more reasonable, more logical, or more thoroughly supported by science and mathematics. YESTERDAY THINKING..

Without philosophy we cannot penetrate deeply into mathematics.
No need to philosophy it either adds up or it doesn't mathematics.

Personally I believe Ethical Monotheism is true.

I also agree with the criticisms in the link above of all three faiths Judaism, Islam, and Christianity.
I did not understand the philosophy to mathematics? Philosophy is the science which teaches us to argue. A philosopher can be any. But mathematics is an exact science of numbers. There will not be able to go different ways. Any mistake leads to collapse.
Ethical monotheism means two things:

1. There is one God from whom emanates one morality for all humanity.
2. God's primary demand of people is that they act decently toward one another.

So how does god make you act decently toward one another..Does he tell you himself or a human?..
Remember it's your belief Ethical monotheism..

Have you ever been hurt?..would you like to do it to someone else?..
You learn off your pain and make sure your off spring don't feel it Wink..AM I GOD..

You learn off your pain and give it to your off spring YOUR AN ASS HOLE..

That's how we learn to be nice and respect each other..
The pain from the past helps us to stop the pain for the future  Wink..

The same goes for happiness we learn how to be happy and pass that happiness on to the future..
2602  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: January 05, 2017, 07:57:05 PM
Gödel’s Incompleteness Theorem:
The #1 Mathematical Discovery of the 20th Century

https://www.perrymarshall.com/articles/religion/godels-incompleteness-theorem/
Quote from: Perry Marshal
In 1931, the young mathematician Kurt Gödel made a landmark discovery, as powerful as anything Albert Einstein developed.

Gödel’s discovery not only applied to mathematics but literally all branches of science, logic and human knowledge. It has truly earth-shattering implications.

Oddly, few people know anything about it.

Allow me to tell you the story.

Mathematicians love proofs. They were hot and bothered for centuries, because they were unable to PROVE some of the things they knew were true.

So for example if you studied high school Geometry, you’ve done the exercises where you prove all kinds of things about triangles based on a list of theorems.

That high school geometry book is built on Euclid’s five postulates. Everyone knows the postulates are true, but in 2500 years nobody’s figured out a way to prove them.

Yes, it does seem perfectly reasonable that a line can be extended infinitely in both directions, but no one has been able to PROVE that. We can only demonstrate that they are a reasonable, and in fact necessary, set of 5 assumptions.

Towering mathematical geniuses were frustrated for 2000+ years because they couldn’t prove all their theorems. There were many things that were “obviously” true but nobody could figure out a way to prove them.

In the early 1900’s, however, a tremendous sense of optimism began to grow in mathematical circles. The most brilliant mathematicians in the world (like Bertrand Russell, David Hilbert and Ludwig Wittgenstein) were convinced that they were rapidly closing in on a final synthesis.

A unifying “Theory of Everything” that would finally nail down all the loose ends. Mathematics would be complete, bulletproof, airtight, triumphant.

In 1931 this young Austrian mathematician, Kurt Gödel, published a paper that once and for all PROVED that a single Theory Of Everything is actually impossible.

Gödel’s discovery was called “The Incompleteness Theorem.”

If you’ll give me just a few minutes, I’ll explain what it says, how Gödel discovered it, and what it means – in plain, simple English that anyone can understand.

Gödel’s Incompleteness Theorem says:

“Anything you can draw a circle around cannot explain itself without referring to something outside the circle – something you have to assume but cannot prove.”

You can draw a circle around all of the concepts in your high school geometry book. But they’re all built on Euclid’s 5 postulates which are clearly true but cannot be proven. Those 5 postulates are outside the book, outside the circle.

You can draw a circle around a bicycle but the existence of that bicycle relies on a factory that is outside that circle. The bicycle cannot explain itself.

Gödel proved that there are ALWAYS more things that are true than you can prove. Any system of logic or numbers that mathematicians ever came up with will always rest on at least a few unprovable assumptions.

Gödel’s Incompleteness Theorem applies not just to math, but to everything that is subject to the laws of logic. Incompleteness is true in math; it’s equally true in science or language or philosophy.

And: If the universe is mathematical and logical, Incompleteness also applies to the universe.

Gödel created his proof by starting with “The Liar’s Paradox” — which is the statement

“I am lying.”

“I am lying” is self-contradictory, since if it’s true, I’m not a liar, and it’s false; and if it’s false, I am a liar, so it’s true.

So Gödel, in one of the most ingenious moves in the history of math, converted the Liar’s Paradox into a mathematical formula. He proved that any statement requires an external observer.

No statement alone can completely prove itself true.

His Incompleteness Theorem was a devastating blow to the “positivism” of the time. Gödel proved his theorem in black and white and nobody could argue with his logic.

Yet some of his fellow mathematicians went to their graves in denial, believing that somehow or another Gödel must surely be wrong.

He wasn’t wrong. It was really true. There are more things than are true than you can prove.

A “theory of everything” – whether in math, or physics, or philosophy – will never be found. Because it is impossible.

OK, so what does this really mean? Why is this super-important, and not just an interesting geek factoid?

Here’s what it means:

  • Faith and Reason are not enemies. In fact, the exact opposite is true! One is absolutely necessary for the other to exist. All reasoning ultimately traces back to faith in something that you cannot prove.
  • All closed systems depend on something outside the system.
  • You can always draw a bigger circle but there will still be something outside the circle.

  • Reasoning inward from a larger circle to a smaller circle is “deductive reasoning.”

Example of a deductive reasoning:
1. All men are mortal
2. Socrates is a man
3. Therefore Socrates is mortal

  • Reasoning outward from a smaller circle to a larger circle is “inductive reasoning.

Examples of inductive reasoning:
1. All the men I know are mortal
2. Therefore all men are mortal

1. When I let go of objects, they fall
2. Therefore there is a law of gravity that governs falling objects

Notice than when you move from the smaller circle to the larger circle, you have to make assumptions that you cannot 100% prove.

For example you cannot PROVE gravity will always be consistent at all times. You can only observe that it’s consistently true every time. You cannot prove that the universe is rational. You can only observe that mathematical formulas like E=MC^2 do seem to perfectly describe what the universe does.

Nearly all scientific laws are based on inductive reasoning. These laws rest on an assumption that the universe is logical and based on fixed discoverable laws.

You cannot PROVE this. (You can’t prove that the sun will come up tomorrow morning either.) You literally have to take it on faith. In fact most people don’t know that outside the science circle is a philosophy circle. Science is based on philosophical assumptions that you cannot scientifically prove. Actually, the scientific method cannot prove, it can only infer.

(Science originally came from the idea that God made an orderly universe which obeys fixed, discoverable laws.)

Now please consider what happens when we draw the biggest circle possibly can – around the whole universe. (If there are multiple universes, we’re drawing a circle around all of them too):

  • There has to be something outside that circle. Something which we have to assume but cannot prove
  • The universe as we know it is finite – finite matter, finite energy, finite space and 13.7 billion years time
  • The universe is mathematical. Any physical system subjected to measurement performs arithmetic. (You don’t need to know math to do addition – you can use an abacus instead and it will give you the right answer every time.)
  • The universe (all matter, energy, space and time) cannot explain itself
  • Whatever is outside the biggest circle is boundless. By definition it is not possible to draw a circle around it.
  • If we draw a circle around all matter, energy, space and time and apply Gödel’s theorem, then we know what is outside that circle is not matter, is not energy, is not space and is not time. It’s immaterial.
  • Whatever is outside the biggest circle is not a system – i.e. is not an assemblage of parts. Otherwise we could draw a circle around them. The thing outside the biggest circle is indivisible.
  • Whatever is outside the biggest circle is an uncaused cause, because you can always draw a circle around an effect.

We can apply the same inductive reasoning to the Origin of Information:

  • In the history of the universe we also see the introduction of information, some 3.5 billion years ago. It came in the form of the Genetic code, which is symbolic and immaterial.
  • The information appears to have come from the outside, since information is not known to be an inherent property of matter, energy, space or time
  • All codes we know the origin of are designed by conscious beings.
  • Therefore whatever is outside the largest circle is a conscious being.

My book Evolution 2.0: Breaking the Deadlock Between Darwin and Design explores the Origin of Information question in depth.

When we add information to the equation, we conclude that not only is the thing outside the biggest circle infinite and immaterial, it is also conscious.

Isn’t it interesting how all these things sound suspiciously similar to how theologians have described God for thousands of years?

So it’s hardly surprising that 80-90% of the people in the world believe in some concept of God. Yes, it’s intuitive to most folks. But Gödel’s theorem indicates it’s also supremely logical. In fact it’s the only position one can take and stay in the realm of reason and logic.

The person who proudly proclaims, “You’re a man of faith, but I’m a man of science” doesn’t understand the roots of science or the nature of knowledge!

Interesting aside…

If you visit the world’s largest atheist website, Infidels, on the home page you will find the following statement:

“Naturalism is the hypothesis that the natural world is a closed system, which means that nothing that is not part of the natural world affects it.”

If you know Gödel’s theorem, you know that all logical systems must rely on something outside the system. So according to Gödel’s Incompleteness theorem, the Infidels cannot be correct. If the universe is logical, it has an outside cause.

Thus atheism violates the laws of reason and logic.

Gödel’s Incompleteness Theorem definitively proves that science can never fill its own gaps. We have no choice but to look outside of science for answers.

The Incompleteness of the universe isn’t proof that God exists. But… it IS proof that in order to construct a rational, scientific model of the universe, belief in God is not just 100% logical… it’s necessary.

Euclid’s 5 postulates aren’t formally provable and God is not formally provable either. But… just as you cannot build a coherent system of geometry without Euclid’s 5 postulates, neither can you build a coherent description of the universe without a First Cause and a Source of order.

Thus faith and science are not enemies, but allies. It’s been true for hundreds of years, but in 1931 this skinny young Austrian mathematician named Kurt Gödel proved it.

No time in the history of mankind has faith in God been more reasonable, more logical, or more thoroughly supported by science and mathematics.


Without philosophy we cannot penetrate deeply into mathematics.
WHY?..




-Leibniz

“Math is the language God wrote the universe in.

So who is your god?..
The god we all read in the bible?..No1
Something made all this so must be a god?..I.E you made your own god up?..No2

What is it 1 or 2..

See the trouble is your reading olden day thinkers..
WHAT WE THINKS YESTERDAY IS NOT WHAT WE THINKS TODAY Grin..
No time in the history of mankind has faith in God been more reasonable, more logical, or more thoroughly supported by science and mathematics. YESTERDAY THINKING..

Without philosophy we cannot penetrate deeply into mathematics.
No need to philosophy it either adds up or it doesn't mathematics.
2603  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: January 05, 2017, 04:04:00 PM
Finland Is Giving $587 A Month to 2,000 Citizens, No Questions Asked ...
fortune.com/2017/01/03/finland-universal-basic-income-experiment/
2 days ago - Finland Is Giving Nearly $600 a Month to 2,000 Jobless Citizens, No ... well as how people will spend the free money, reports Business Insider.

We need everybody to get a starting point to spend Wink..
It will happen Grin..
2604  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: January 05, 2017, 12:03:20 AM
a quote for you as wel from Einstein:
Quote
“Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”
- Albert Einstein..

He saying he doesn't believe in god  Grin..But it's fun to argue with religious freaks Wink

darn , i did un-checked this threath , yet it appears ....


but where did i say he was he was beleaving in God Huh?? few replyes before i called him an atheist , but no you didnt read that, you see what you wanna see

and i am a freak ......... how lame


I was just saying what he means Grin.. Just for those who don't know what he means Wink..
I never clicked on you did I ?..

Typical freaking  Muslim freaking out Cheesy..
2605  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: January 04, 2017, 11:36:51 PM
a quote for you as wel from Einstein:
Quote
“Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”
- Albert Einstein..

He saying he doesn't believe in god  Grin..But it's fun to argue with religious freaks Wink
2606  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: January 04, 2017, 07:27:44 PM
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There is no God I'm sure. The Bible, the Koran, the Talmud and all other religious morals have a lot of contradictions and can't explain the laws of the universe. In the 20th century, religion began to lose ground and all religious organizations signed a contract with politicians. That is why there is such a resurgence of terrorism.

what does make you so sure of non existing of a creator???

again i can take the challange to debunk the mythe of contradictions of the Quran, i say there is none.... til today I have been encountered no contradiction in the Quran.

so come with one, and please do not come with an site , give me contradictive verses please

Lack of ANY physical evidence of his existence.

you know even if you got some proove like physical evidence , you will denied it, you will say its hoax or something, why because you have an free will, you can deny it.

- how about ghosts Huh  i mean when they died some say they seeing their ghost apperiences ?? if you beleave this , you have to beleave in a GOD, cause God gave us spirits/souls

- you know there is more between heaven and earth , were science failed to explains Huh?

Scientifically proven a lot, but not all of course. Religion does not explain anything. Their explanation is only one God is because it is! How can you believe in such nonsense? But for the sake of this nonsense Muslims carry out terrorist attacks! I hate these morons!
Honestly not all muslim are like terrorist they have different breeds like here in my country i have many friends muslems here only maranao those breeds for me a happy breeds means they are happy friends and they are not always looking for fight someone or killing someone unlike other breeds of muslim.
You must have good owners Wink..
Some of the different breeds in my park attack each other too..
The VET said it's down to the owners why they bite..
2607  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in God? on: January 03, 2017, 11:47:10 PM
WELL get your god or gods to give everyone 1 million bucks Wink..No not much of a god so my logic tells me no GODS Wink..
Ok that to hard for your god or gods? lets make it easier..
Get your god to make me a cup of tea?..Even i can make a cup of tea Roll Eyes..
So if i go down the stairs in 5 mins i should have a cup of tea..A small price to make me believe he is real..Just think what i would do i would spread the word of god..Just a cup of simple tea..
 Cry Cry :'(OH come on god me wife never makes me one Cry Cry Cry Cheesy Cheesy..Joking she does..
BUT the main one i would like god to do is stop killing the children of the earth in many numbers.. Grin
Or ask god could he take the hunt out of money it kills so many Wink..
I am going to see if i got a cup of tea Grin..But i suppose my logic tells me i am making it myself?

I can't debate with people that speak irrationally, I'm sorry.
I would rather be the offspring of two apes than be a man and afraid to face the truth. Wink..
Having sex with your wife worth more than $1m don't you agree? having a healthy body worth more than millions of dollars don't you agree?
If God gives you $1m you'll then ask for another million and again another one after that, just look the rich people having more than enough for their life time and even more than enough for all of their family members but do you see them giving the extra money away? ask them and they'd say: why would we do that? it's our money.
You could save a baby from dying but you can't say God is killing them lolz man what are you living in a cartoon world? don't you know how does the world works? don't you know decisions that people make changes the lives of themselves and all the people on earth as well?

If you can't feel His presence in your life I feel sorry for you and hope that He shows you the way and removes the black and dark curtain from your heart so that you can also see the light.
Having sex with your wife worth more than $1m don't you agree?..
That's why i need the 1million Grin..

If God gives you $1m you'll then ask for another million and again another one after that..
Well he is god..If he give me 1 million so easy what's another and another Wink..
Now if god said your only allowed to have 1 million i would still be grateful  Grin..
Who am i to argue with someone who zapped me a million Wink..

rich people having more than enough for their life time and even more than enough for all of their family members but do you see them giving the extra money away?
Bill Gates khan academy Grin..

You could save a baby from dying but you can't say God is killing them..
God is not killing them because no such thing..

 lolz man what are you living in a cartoon world?..
Sometimes.. When people like you pop up..

Don't you know how does the world works?..
Yep don't get money your FUCKED Wink..

don't you know decisions that people make changes the lives of themselves and all the people on earth as well..
Yes and that's why I say politicians are robbing scumbags..

so that you can also see the light..
I see day and night and still no god.. Wink
2608  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: January 03, 2017, 02:53:42 AM
WELL get your god or gods to give everyone 1 million bucks Wink..No not much of a god so my logic tells me no GODS Wink..
Ok that to hard for your god or gods? lets make it easier..
Get your god to make me a cup of tea?..Even i can make a cup of tea Roll Eyes..
So if i go down the stairs in 5 mins i should have a cup of tea..A small price to make me believe he is real..Just think what i would do i would spread the word of god..Just a cup of simple tea..
 Cry Cry :'(OH come on god me wife never makes me one Cry Cry Cry Cheesy Cheesy..Joking she does..
BUT the main one i would like god to do is stop killing the children of the earth in many numbers.. Grin
Or ask god could he take the hunt out of money it kills so many Wink..
I am going to see if i got a cup of tea Grin..But i suppose my logic tells me i am making it myself?

I can't debate with people that speak irrationally, I'm sorry.
I would rather be the offspring of two apes than be a man and afraid to face the truth. Wink..
2609  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: January 03, 2017, 02:31:44 AM
I never said anything about the bible, or religion for the matter.?..
So why are you even on this thread?.. Huh

 when you haven't explained to me how exactly what I've said hasn't been logical.

It's not logical to say 50% chance of a god?..
At the back of your mind your saying there could be?..
So who told you about god?..DID HE TELL YOU HIMSELF?..

You have been told about god by humans..So the logical answer is no god Wink..

It makes no difference for you to even question yourself to say there could be a god..Your a believer in god?..
Nothing wrong with it but it's not logic Wink..

Something must of made all of this?..That's the answer to your question?..So you think well it could be a god? or it might not be?..BUT who put the god in your head GOD? or a human?..

Now if an alien race made us it's still not a god?..Science Wink..
Now if you had logic you say NO GOD Wink
Who told you about gods a human or a god?..
Why did you mention there could be a god?..50/50 a god or not?..

Like I said before, it is foolish to assume you have all of the answers by claiming a god cannot possibly (not "does not") exist. Agnosticism isn't a lack of complete certainty, it is a complete lack of certainty. Honest people interested in the truth are not unwilling to edit their beliefs to align with the available evidence, and thus far you've yet to provide me any, whereas all I've provided you with are facts.

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“Agnosticism is of the essence of science, whether ancient or modern. It simply means that a man shall not say he knows or believes that which he has no scientific grounds for professing to know or believe.” ~ Thomas Huxley, 1884
Like I said before, it is foolish to assume you have all of the answers by claiming a god cannot possibly (not "does not") exist.

WELL get your god or gods to give everyone 1 million bucks Wink..No not much of a god so my logic tells me no GODS Wink..
Ok that to hard for your god or gods? lets make it easier..
Get your god to make me a cup of tea?..Even i can make a cup of tea Roll Eyes..
So if i go down the stairs in 5 mins i should have a cup of tea..A small price to make me believe he is real..Just think what i would do i would spread the word of god..Just a cup of simple tea..
 Cry Cry :'(OH come on god me wife never makes me one Cry Cry Cry Cheesy Cheesy..Joking she does..
BUT the main one i would like god to do is stop killing the children of the earth in many numbers.. Grin
Or ask god could he take the hunt out of money it kills so many Wink..
I am going to see if i got a cup of tea Grin..But i suppose my logic tells me i am making it myself?
2610  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: January 03, 2017, 01:47:38 AM
No your wrong sir..

 humans can't, and possibly never will know the answers to these these questions.

We humans will know the answer how it all began  Wink..We will understand so much we will make our own worlds Wink..

Have you ever got that feeling when you are asking yourself what's all about?..You feel a bit depressed?.
I am sure many humans have had that feeling..
Some people even kills them selves over it..
The big Question WHAT'S IT ALL ABOUT?..

Well listen to me young adults i will tell you what it is all about..

We as humans must live on FOREVER we have a fight for survival to save this earth or make another earth for our future children to live on..

With science and math our children can become the next generation of explorers..
Just look up at the night sky it's a universe waiting for us humans to explore..

We have not even moved?..
The universe is huge and it's waiting for us humans to fly amongst the stars and beyond..

What's it all about?..Were is my spaceship so me and my family can fly around the moon?..
And park it back up my own driveway..

A star is a sun we live around a sun?..Look up at the night sky and wonder..
I give you 1 of my wonders..

I imagine what if we got a rock? spin the rock the same speed as the earth and the same distance from the sun as the earth is i wonder what would happen?..
Would it gather up space dust and become bigger and end up like an earth?..

Now if i only ever put my face in a bible i would never be able to think of something like that for humans
to TRY Wink..

Spin a big rock at 1,040 mph same distance from the sun as earth..Lets see what would happen?..
Snowball affect?..We will never know till we try?..

Science will tell us everything and more Wink..NOT GODS Wink..

It's not necessary to preface your entire post with "you're wrong" when you haven't explained to me how exactly what I've said hasn't been logical.

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We humans will know the answer how it all began  Wink..We will understand so much we will make our own worlds Wink..
We humans don't have all the answers.

Quote
Now if i only ever put my face in a bible i would never be able to think of something like that for humans
to TRY Wink..
I never said anything about the bible, or religion for the matter.

Quote
Science will tell us everything and more Wink..NOT GODS Wink..
Science doesn't tell us everything.

I never said anything about the bible, or religion for the matter.?..
So why are you even on this thread?.. Huh

 when you haven't explained to me how exactly what I've said hasn't been logical.

It's not logical to say 50% chance of a god?..
At the back of your mind your saying there could be?..
So who told you about god?..DID HE TELL YOU HIMSELF?..

You have been told about god by humans..So the logical answer is no god Wink..

It makes no difference for you to even question yourself to say there could be a god..Your a believer in god?..
Nothing wrong with it but it's not logic Wink..

Something must of made all of this?..That's the answer to your question?..So you think well it could be a god? or it might not be?..BUT who put the god in your head GOD? or a human?..

Now if an alien race made us it's still not a god?..Science Wink..
Now if you had logic you say NO GOD Wink
Who told you about gods a human or a god?..
Why did you mention there could be a god?..50/50 a god or not?..

2611  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: January 03, 2017, 01:05:23 AM
I'm agnostic. I believe that a god's existence and non-existence are exactly equiprobable. I cannot say for certain that a god does exist, and I cannot say for certain that a god does not exist. Therefor I'm bound by logic to assume that a god could possibly exist as much as a god could possibly not exist.
You use no logic Wink..What you just said your basically saying something made all this?..

So who made god?.. Mummy and daddy god?..

Therefor I'm bound by logic to assume that a god could possibly exist as much as a god could possibly not exist.. Roll Eyes

99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% no god..

O.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 A god..

So what's with the 50/50.. A GOD Huh..

You need some SPOCK LOGIC Wink..Not BADLOGIC  Grin

Sorry but I have no idea what you just tried to say.

He is basically saying where do you get the physical evidence to support 50% chance that God exist?  
Please share it. I'm sure many scientists and engineers here would like to look at it.

God, unicorns, winged horses have pretty much the same probability of existence.


Thomas Huxley was an advocate of agnosticism, he coined the word. He was one of the first adherents to Darwin's theory of evolution and was a scientist, above all else. Allow me to quote him, it's one of my favorite quotes of all time.

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In matters of the intellect, do not pretend that conclusions are certain which are not demonstrated or demonstrable. That I take to be the agnostic position, which if a man keep whole and undefiled, he shall not be ashamed to look the universe in the face, whatever the future may have in store for him.

The agnosticism he defined was a belief in the scientific method, and amounted to a form of demarcation. No objective testable evidence = a subjective unfalsifiable claim. You can believe in some sort of god or higher being, you can not believe in some sort of god or higher being, or you can take the agnostic position and understand that us humans can't, and possibly never will know the answers to these these questions.



No your wrong sir..

 humans can't, and possibly never will know the answers to these these questions.

We humans will know the answer how it all began  Wink..We will understand so much we will make our own worlds Wink..

Have you ever got that feeling when you are asking yourself what's all about?..You feel a bit depressed?.
I am sure many humans have had that feeling..
Some people even kills them selves over it..
The big Question WHAT'S IT ALL ABOUT?..

Well listen to me young adults i will tell you what it is all about..

We as humans must live on FOREVER we have a fight for survival to save this earth or make another earth for our future children to live on..

With science and math our children can become the next generation of explorers..
Just look up at the night sky it's a universe waiting for us humans to explore..

We have not even moved?..
The universe is huge and it's waiting for us humans to fly amongst the stars and beyond..

What's it all about?..Were is my spaceship so me and my family can fly around the moon?..
And park it back up my own driveway..

A star is a sun we live around a sun?..Look up at the night sky and wonder..
I give you 1 of my wonders..

I imagine what if we got a rock? spin the rock the same speed as the earth and the same distance from the sun as the earth is i wonder what would happen?..
Would it gather up space dust and become bigger and end up like an earth?..

Now if i only ever put my face in a bible i would never be able to think of something like that for humans
to TRY Wink..

Spin a big rock at 1,040 mph same distance from the sun as earth..Lets see what would happen?..
Snowball affect?..We will never know till we try?..

Science will tell us everything and more Wink..NOT GODS Wink..


 
2612  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: January 03, 2017, 12:06:28 AM
I'm agnostic. I believe that a god's existence and non-existence are exactly equiprobable. I cannot say for certain that a god does exist, and I cannot say for certain that a god does not exist. Therefor I'm bound by logic to assume that a god could possibly exist as much as a god could possibly not exist.
You use no logic Wink..What you just said your basically saying something made all this?..

So who made god?.. Mummy and daddy god?..

Therefor I'm bound by logic to assume that a god could possibly exist as much as a god could possibly not exist.. Roll Eyes

99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% no god..

O.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 A god..

So what's with the 50/50.. A GOD Huh..

You need some SPOCK LOGIC Wink..Not BADLOGIC  Grin

Sorry but I have no idea what you just tried to say.
See you don't understand human behaviour?..Why you ask..

For someone to say that a god could possibly exist you mean this..And you do even though you wont admit it?..

Your scared to die and hope another place to live?..
Or you think something god like must of made this universe and earth?..
Now when you say your logic?..If you used your logic how logic should be used it be very logical there be no god?..Very logical no god Wink..

You mention god because you been told stories of god?..
Then your mind can make up other stories how the universe come to be..
Lock you in a room from birth with no contact with the outside world would you even mention a god?..

Do you think it's logical for me to say if i clicked my fingers i could make you vanish?..
so what is the logical answer..I can or I cannot make you vanish with a click of my fingers?..

So what logic of there being a god?..

So you need some SPOCK LOGIC Wink..NOT BADLOGIC..
2613  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: January 02, 2017, 11:28:52 PM
I'm agnostic. I believe that a god's existence and non-existence are exactly equiprobable. I cannot say for certain that a god does exist, and I cannot say for certain that a god does not exist. Therefor I'm bound by logic to assume that a god could possibly exist as much as a god could possibly not exist.
You use no logic Wink..What you just said your basically saying something made all this?..

So who made god?.. Mummy and daddy god?..

Therefor I'm bound by logic to assume that a god could possibly exist as much as a god could possibly not exist.. Roll Eyes

99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% no god..

O.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 A god..

So what's with the 50/50.. A GOD Huh..

You need some SPOCK LOGIC Wink..Not BADLOGIC  Grin
2614  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate muslems? on: January 02, 2017, 12:29:05 PM
I really dont hate muslims, what i hate is their natural inclination to commit violence all in the name of "allah"

Where did you see people like that? ISIS? Terrorist? It has often been said that ISIS and Terrorist was not a Muslim, confirmed they are not Muslims! There is no such doctrine in Islam, they are wrong in translating what is in the Quran. Jihad is when you fall in the war to defend Islam, but what they do not like it, but they told them jihad. It was very wrong. Do you know? People of Islam in the world feel hurt when people say that ISIS and Terrorist are muslim.
ISIS are sad muslims BUT still muslims?..
Who are you to say who is the right muslim?..

No i am the right muslim..No i am the right muslim..No i am the right muslim..

Now as a westerner WHO THE FUCK IS THE RIGHT MUSLIM?..So many you see Roll Eyes..

We in the UK have a lot of Isis young men from our country..
The problem is they read only what good muslims read..
But when life is not doing to good they start to use all the bad bits..
You must admit the koran has many bad bit in the book?..
Now when life is going well you only use the good bits in the koran?..

It's called human behaviour..We humans love to blame people..FACT..
So when a book tells you it's ok to kill the non believers most people who's life is ok would never kill someone they got to much to loose..
But when someones life is so shit they don't care anymore they would rather die..
Just think how many young adults 17 years to 25 years old are fighting for ISIS..
And many fighters have come from the uk..
It just shows you how hard life as become for young ADULTS they would rather die Cry..

See the immigration got out of hand..We invited loads more muslims from other countries and the muslims that were already here got pushed to the back of the line..

And it's still going on..Life for young adults as become out of hand..

ALL ABOUT THE MONEY..Everything Wink..

And that's why i hate religion it separates humans..But the maddest thing of all it's over something that's not there.. Huh Roll Eyes Shocked Angry Angry Angry..

It's them KURDS..It's them Christians..It's them JEWS..It's them blah blahs..it's them blah blahs..

80% of the population are blaming one type of religion Cheesy Cheesy..WHAT THE FUCK..
ARE WE HUMANS THAT FUCKING STUPID Angry Angry..

YOU are blaming people over something that's not fucking there Angry Angry..

Now lets see how fucking DUMB 2017 CAN GET Roll Eyes..


2615  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Poll: Is the creation of artificial superinteligence dangerous? on: January 01, 2017, 05:05:18 PM
We will build EMP guns Wink..Technology already there Grin..

ZAP the NUTS and BOLTS off the ROBOTS..EMP the robots  Cool..

So we are all safe..  Grin..
2616  Other / Politics & Society / Re: If nuclear war broke out where's the safest place on Earth? on: January 01, 2017, 01:24:16 PM
Benyamin nettanyaou or the Bushes suitcases.. Grin

Yeah... Benjamin Netanyahu will be the first prime minister to die in case of a nuclear war. Israel is surrounded on all sides by hostile nations. The only question is from where the nuclear attack will come from. It can either come from Saudi Arabia, or it can be from Iran.
If they don't escape no one does Grin..

 Benjamin Netanyahu Cheesy..Are you joking he well be on a plane to some secret island  Wink..
Or a tunnel that shuttles them to an underground bunker or airport base and take off in the air and land somewhere else..

But if they don't escape no one will Wink..

Benjamin Netanyahu technology might be way ahead than missiles..
Like God goes ZAP..Benjamin Netanyahu might go zap to the nukes Cheesy..

ZAP THEM NUKES Cheesy..
2617  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Aerofobia on: December 31, 2016, 08:42:23 PM
You are falling for their BS.
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Dude dont waste your time with these people whatever the fuck you say they gonna say something else, they dont wanna know if muslims are good or bad if you take a look at there comment history all you will get is pure evil hate.

The ONLY way to talk to these people is face to face so you can read them well ..., & Good luck sir!
Not 1 Muslim as ever argued with this..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5FIy5C01zg..

So when we westerners say the same thing are we pure evil?..


2618  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Aerofobia on: December 31, 2016, 08:30:31 PM
You are falling for their BS.
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Dude dont waste your time with these people whatever the fuck you say they gonna say something else, they dont wanna know if muslims are good or bad if you take a look at there comment history all you will get is pure evil hate.

The ONLY way to talk to these people is face to face so you can read them well ..., & Good luck sir!
YES with your gang?..To scared to do it on your own Wink..Always a gang of muslims..

You muslims hate muslims the worst Wink..

And do you like to fly?..Well if you do keep them fucking bombs at home  Cheesy Cheesy..
2619  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Aerofobia on: December 31, 2016, 07:45:32 PM
You are falling for their BS.

The evidence of the real stand of things are muslims, that are fighting against salafists.
In this way You have nothing to say, that muslims are supporting ISIS.
The BS is Your font of text extraction equilibrists for ignorant people in questions of modern Islamic World.
You have specified text about all the questions in criminal activity of ISIS from muslim point of view with the reference to text of Quran and the Modern Rules and the Stand of things in Islam.

The letter explain that being "non muslim" rappresent no crime, even being in appartenance to other religions rappresent no crime too.

(The exceptions from this are cases of witchcraft, Satanism, Sexual disorders. I have few data how they deal an all that cases.)

Try to ask to some expert where is the trick of insane diffamation in Your font, if to You is not enough so clear text of letter.



No idea, who have the time to make it for free and online.




I get what your saying?..
The good Muslims are bad people Wink..
The bad muslims are good people Wink..OH Yes it is?..

Islam started in Mediterranean region, in the Hejaz area of modern Saudi Arabia..
So what type of muslims are Saudi?..
Then don't you think they be the first to know how is the right way to preach ISLAM?..

And is ISIS not like saudi arabia good Muslims?..
You see it spread from that region and people started making bits up as time went on?..
And this is why we have so many different type of muslims..

People making things up as they go along Roll Eyes..And maybe that's why loads of trouble Grin..
Instead of keeping it REAL Wink..

We can all say blah blah blah blah..
BUT it's all about the money?..Yes even your flying?..

To scared to die because you cannot carry on spending..No spending no existence  Wink..
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY..EVERYTHING Grin..Money is the biggest killer Wink..

2620  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you believe in god? on: December 30, 2016, 05:23:11 PM
iam believe
if the thread vote or comment not believe
i want to ask, what do you think about earth, who create earth
and who fist in human in earth , and who create human

Hi, let me tell you from the start that you should read some biology book or unleast research more about that topic on how did the first human come to be.

Ok, the Earth, no one created Earth, here's a little link that you can read https://www.theguardian.com/science/2008/apr/28/starsgalaxiesandplanets.geology.

Every answer is basically a click away from you, it's up to you if you're not too ignorant to find it and read it.

Now let me ask you, do you think that this universe and all the galaxies, planets and satelites were created by the big bang? By the particles and star dust that was scattered all over? If no, why not?
If no, why not?..Because GOD went ZAP..OH sorry it was so Roll Eyes..
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