why aiming only at 8gb GPUs ?
Current hashrate is not really better than 4gb.
actually it is if you are not doing bios flash which I don't do And if you use smOS you can buy any 8gb you find on a good sale. management is easy and as you know I resell whenever I deem it works for me. Say the diamond 8gb I just got for 200 each new free shipping. they will do 53mh with settings like 999 2100 2 on smOS at the moment they earn over 4 bucks a day. In 30 days I have 120 back so I could sell them at 170 each 400 - 120 = 280 power + 30 = 310 sell at 340 30 dollar profit in 400 Cards are purchased on paypal credit so 0 out of pocket gets me 30 bucks in 30 days. Everyone gains. Paypal diamonmultimedia buyer from me and me down side is a total market collapse I am stuck with cards I can't sell that don't earn. |
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I remember when I first purchase a mini back in August 2016 they were 500usd. Then they soon went out stock and had an exact release date for their new ones....not sure but I think it was Oct 16th or something like that. Then sales slumped and they lowered their pricing by 20% as they were sitting on dead stock. Dash then sky rocketed, group buys by Bittawn and stock is now gone. I'm sure they are scrambling to get new stock but I'm confident the A900's won't be anything less than 3000 even 3500usd a piece if dash price holds.
to explain in terms of different gear take a pandaminer also sold out due to eth price rise and btc drop. My panda rx 480 4gb model earns .0235 btc a day mining eth pointed at nicehash converted to btc 44th of s-9 earns 0.0232 btc a day pointed at f2pool. the panda uses 1100-1150 watts 44th of s9 uses 4500-4600 watts so pandas sell out boom. |
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I was typing and doing stuff. Then I hear a boop sound. And one of my computer is death.
It seems that the videocard explode though I do not know for sure what's exploding.
RIP.
It's not a rig. I put a video card on one old computer to test mining.
Well....
It blows up.
I wonder what should we do to prevent this from happening?
Is there a software that monitor GPU temperature and turn off everything when it exceeds something?
yes but the lack of info does not help us. were you using and amd rx 480 or rx 470? msi afterburner has shut down settings if you were mining with claymore 8.1 for eth he has shutdown settings. for hot rigs if you used smOS for watching all your amd rigs. he has shut down settings fan settings temp readings fan readings |
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Thanks Citronick for the feedback !
My team had a meeting after the talk and we decided on some contingencies, pending Segwit vs BU bloodbath around "a few weeks before October". We will be investing more on GPU mining and Ethereum.
More GPUs ? what will you choose to expand now ? Btw, will move the 2PH BTC farm into rental market before the war starts. When things gets risky and volatile, it's better to rent, sell the picks and shovels to goldminers than to mine the gold yourself
Nicehash , or something else ? During the talk, Andreas spoke about the possible 51% attack -- reading between the lines without too much detail I think he was referring to an example .... the ETH fork not too long ago and how the ETC supporters bought all available Dagger-Hashimoto hash from NH at premium and throw hash at the ETC network to catchup with ETH network.... Vitalik was in the audience and ... Andreas didn't go any further on that discussion - but yes, I get him, I think when push comes to shove BU supporters will probably raid all available SHA256 hash for rent from NH to overtake SegWit fork. So when that happens, I dont mind selling my hash at premium. Call me opportunistic but WTH man... I am really sad if BTC comes to this stage. According to Andreas, if the 51% attack happens -- there is only a "7 block" advantage and.. guess who has the hashing power stashed away in the Mongolian desert. GPU mining.... hmmmm.... I think we are looking at a new "Trustware" platform, and it will certainly be GPU minable because software+hardware convergence although will be fair for all (and as predicted by Phil... so many hardware vendors will benefit vs only Bitmaintech profits).... it will not repeat the BTC's case of Bitmaintech dominating ASICs hardware. This is just my opinion. I am taking a big bet on ETH mining since, adoption by major exchanges and Coinbase already favors ETH. So I think ETH is safe haven for now at least short term until POS in 2018. I wonder is ETH is the benchmark of a "Trustware". Make sense. Do you plan to expand on Rx470 or rx480 ? or to wait vega before expanding ? If you are in a position to expand your most import thing is 8gb memory for the card. then as always price. I sold every rx 470 except the two I have with 8gb of ram I sold all my asus rx 480's with only 4gb ram I sold the panda miner with rx 480 4gb cards. (still waiting for the coin) I am down to: three asus rx 480 8gb strix model ------------ does 26- 27mh on 1025 2200 smOS 2 power one asus rx 480 8gb dual model ------------ does 25-26mh on 1000 2200 smOS 2 power eight msi rx 480 8gb gamer red led -------- does 27mh on 999 2222 smos 1 power two msi rx 470 8gb gamer red led -------- does 22mh on 975 1850 smos 2 power two diamond rx 480 8gb blower waiting for arrival of these this is 16 cards on 8 rigs If I get cheap diamond cards I will buy them But I may do nothing except move the gear to the solar array Phil , did you fix the Decred to NH issue ? or just satyed with Eth only ?
Another point : do someone know if SimpleMining can handle 7 GPUs with MSI Gaming5 ?
sure it handles the pandaminer with 8 Great thx |
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I am posting this for sharing because I think it will impact all of us since Bitcoin is in the centrestage of all of our alts mining activities now. I am posting my comments only here in Phil's thread because self-moderates the thread....
Just came back from a Bitcoin local chapter talk with guest speaker Andreas Antonopoulos, and lo and behold Vitalik Buterin in the audience. I wanted to ask about the Segwit vs BU issue in Q&A, and well I didnt have to -- Andreas jump straight into it.
Very interesting talk about cultural gap between software mindset vs hardware mindset -- hence this battle between Segwit and BU, how Bitcoin is going to survive a hard fork and the emergence of a new platform that comverge software and hardware and maintains the glory of decentralization, ie. Trustware.
The video of the talk should be up in Andreas's Youtube channel in a few hours.
My team had a meeting after the talk and we decided on some contingencies, pending Segwit vs BU bloodbath around "a few weeks before October". We will be investing more on GPU mining and Ethereum. Btw, will move the 2PH BTC farm into rental market before the war starts. When things gets risky and volatile, it's better to rent, sell the picks and shovels to goldminers than to mine the gold yourself - think Levis Strauss.
OK - thats enough yadda2 for the day. Watch the video and make your own decisions.
There's so much volatility these days I convert my mining gains straight to USDT. We are already making a ton of money the only risk remaining is that the market suddenly crashes. yes send some to cash at least 20-25% |
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Phil , did you fix the Decred to NH issue ? or just satyed with Eth only ?
Another point : do someone know if SimpleMining can handle 7 GPUs with MSI Gaming5 ?
sure it handles the pandaminer with 8 I gave up on decred but and a big but my gpus don't stress on eth alone 3000 watts earning quite well 1.8 btc per month 30th of s-9 earns 0.4758 btc so almost 4x the btc for the same power  |
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I have 3 people in line for the pandaminer.
the five asus rx 480s are sold.
So thread locked for now.
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It's only that way because someone's willing to pay a heck of a lot more than cost for ETH. Every time that's happened with BTC it crashed shortly after - remember Nov 2013 to Feb 2014? Your rig is far better at mining something not Bitcoins than the S9 is, but it sucks at mining bitcoins. It's only able to revenue more bitcoins than an S9 because of an unlikely and probably unsustainable favorable exchange rate between the two coins. The BTCs you get in exchange for ETH, someone first had to mine those the hard way.
If Ethereum sticks around, proves viable and is accepted as a currency instead of traded or stockpiled as an asset, it may get my support. But until then I'll keep backing the direct mining of the coin I actually want - a coin I can actually spend on something that isn't just another coin.
not that i disagree but you are leaving out the fact that btc/asic is anti gpu/pc components. My feeling here is that bitmain avalon and biftfury may have awakened a multi headed beast look at the companies in thread below : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1833839.0 I still think all of this can work for all of us and we are seeing the fact that the companies in the thread above see what I see a cheaper way to acquire btc then using asics and a way to sell their gear to us. The year of 2017 has a lot of action headed our way. I look to have some of all miners to spread risk. |
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I really hope they will send the next batch or whatever in a decent state. I recieved my pandaminer (not b3) last week, full of dust, scratches, clearly been used for a significant period of time.. (and i know i'm not the only one....) Not very professional if you ask me. Then i got a private message from someone else who recieved his panda with 3 heatsinks completely loose.... I was very happy with my very first order, arived here in time, in perfect condition and still running smooth. But to be honest, i'm not sure if i'm going to reorder anything else after haven seen this. Lets hope they turn around and start working on their marketing skills and perhaps some decent English  A shitload of potential here, lets hope they make something out of it.. too bad if that is the direction they are headed. I am a third generation American so I am just an English speaking guy. But my wife is first generation American her parents first language was Italian and my wife has more then 100 relatives that I have meet that speak Italian first English second. There are language barrier issues , custom issues. We effort to get along and for the most part it works out. This is a very simple thing happening in the world of crypto coins. As of today the pandaminer earns more btc then 3 s-9s and uses far less power and costs much less. No one knows what will be in a week but today the pandaminer is a king. |
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Armor is getting hotter than Gaming.
ROG should be decent but expensive usually.
The rog is not as expensive as the msi gaming, its about 5$ more than the armor but still 15$ less than the gaming For mining, temps will be your worst nightmare, so consider good reputable fan/cooling solutions from Asus Strixx or MSI Twin-Frozz- very good actually -- my favorites. See Philip's rigs - I think he did review of these brands for RX cards too. I have tried many different GPUs and have found the MSI RX470 Gaming X to be the most efficient, quiet, cool GPU on the market. The strapping is also very easy to get the most out of this GPU. there is something to be said for this gpu http://www.diamondmultimediastore.com/radeon-rx400-seriesit is loud it is a bit hot but the price is good for a rx 480 8gb card. 199.99 with free shipping don't flash bios just use smOS set at 1025 core 2100 mem 2 powerstage |
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First and foremost the wife is on the attack.
Second I want a little less gpus it will get warm for my setup as spring is a few days away.
LOL at this, that's all that has to be said.... I may be interested in the pandaminer but I just dropped some BTC on 7 RX480s week ago and will be building another rig this week. Need to figure some stuff out and see if I can make it work No worries it is making me solid coin. Pointed at nicehash mining eth Maybe, but that won't stop me from trying. Change in favor of the little people is why I started working in the bitcoin economy over three years ago. Some people are worth not being completely ignored by everyone in the world.
yeah I use the sticks for fun I hit a PPC block with them. I look forward to some more efficient models. At the moment BTC is in trouble. but there is a lot of $$ invested in it. I am sure it will do better. I mine my eth directly into btc as I prefer btc. I use nicehash But asic mining of btc is in trouble. look at this rig the pandaminer. it is far better then the s-9 I point it at nicehash i get about 0.02368 btc per day using about 1050 watts I need 44 th of sha256 or 3 ½ s-9s to earn 0.02368 btc per day and that is 4500 watts this math is what it is and is causing price adjustment in coins. So at the moment my btc is cheap via eth mining  |
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I am posting this for sharing because I think it will impact all of us since Bitcoin is in the centrestage of all of our alts mining activities now. I am posting my comments only here in Phil's thread because self-moderates the thread....
Just came back from a Bitcoin local chapter talk with guest speaker Andreas Antonopoulos, and lo and behold Vitalik Buterin in the audience. I wanted to ask about the Segwit vs BU issue in Q&A, and well I didnt have to -- Andreas jump straight into it.
Very interesting talk about cultural gap between software mindset vs hardware mindset -- hence this battle between Segwit and BU, how Bitcoin is going to survive a hard fork and the emergence of a new platform that comverge software and hardware and maintains the glory of decentralization, ie. Trustware.
The video of the talk should be up in Andreas's Youtube channel in a few hours.
My team had a meeting after the talk and we decided on some contingencies, pending Segwit vs BU bloodbath around "a few weeks before October". We will be investing more on GPU mining and Ethereum. Btw, will move the 2PH BTC farm into rental market before the war starts. When things gets risky and volatile, it's better to rent, sell the picks and shovels to goldminers than to mine the gold yourself - think Levis Strauss.
OK - thats enough yadda2 for the day. Watch the video and make your own decisions.
link to video please. My suggestion to all is balance your portfolio.
look at the math for today 1 pandaminer on eth pointed at nicehash
uses 1100 watts and earns 0.023 btc
3 ½ s-9s pointed at f2pool does 44 th uses 4500 watts earns 0.023 btcnot to mention 1 used pandaminer can be had for about 2200 usd from me and 3 ½ s-9s are more then 5000 usd [/b] plus the psus for the panda vs the 3 ½ s-9s is another 250 more for the s-9's The swing to the pandaminer being the better deal at this moment is amazing. What really amazes me is no one has said phil sell me that pandaminer (FUD is a mofo) Maybe, but that won't stop me from trying. Change in favor of the little people is why I started working in the bitcoin economy over three years ago. Some people are worth not being completely ignored by everyone in the world.
yeah I use the sticks for fun I hit a PPC block with them. I look forward to some more efficient models. At the moment BTC is in trouble. but there is a lot of $$ invested in it. I am sure it will do better. I mine my eth directly into btc as I prefer btc. I use nicehash But asic mining of btc is in trouble. look at this rig the pandaminer. it is far better then the s-9 I point it at nicehash i get about 0.02368 btc per day using about 1050 watts I need 44 th of sha256 or 3 ½ s-9s to earn 0.02368 btc per day and that is 4500 watts this math is what it is and is causing price adjustment in coins. So at the moment my btc is cheap via eth mining |
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Maybe, but that won't stop me from trying. Change in favor of the little people is why I started working in the bitcoin economy over three years ago. Some people are worth not being completely ignored by everyone in the world.
yeah I use the sticks for fun I hit a PPC block with them. I look forward to some more efficient models. At the moment BTC is in trouble. but there is a lot of $$ invested in it. I am sure it will do better. I mine my eth directly into btc as I prefer btc. I use nicehash But asic mining of btc is in trouble. look at this rig the pandaminer. it is far better then the s-9 I point it at nicehash i get about 0.02368 btc per day using about 1050 watts I need 44 th of sha256 or 3 ½ s-9s to earn 0.02368 btc per day and that is 4500 watts this math is what it is and is causing price adjustment in coins. So at the moment my btc is cheap via eth mining |
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I for one am glad they sold out.
They made good gear and deserve to make profit.
@ panda miner. Since you sold it all how about a new run?
Maybe the next time limit 1/2 the batch to small sales.
@ everyone the fact they sold out so quickly shows the interest in gpu mining is strong.
This is good for all of us miners.
To be frank I would have liked one maybe someone from the company could have emailed me.
Hi, Philip, we will release a new run and new batch, but we are not sure about the exact time, we will tell you all the exact time when we decided. Thanks so much for your support! Put one on the side for me. Please. They are selling like mad and I understand why you sold out as turning down an order of 300 or 400 machines would not be easy. I am sending a pm now. pm sent |
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Hi dear friend
I used this mining oc but low hashrate for me
6 rx 470 = 157 m/h eth
But claymore for me each gpu 27.300 m/h
163.200 m/h
How fix this issue??
if you use claymore 8.1 here it (a linux system) runs a tiny bit lower then running it with windows. but it is far more stable. so the trade off is you can control the miner from any pc in the world . plus it crashes less. this one does 233 on windows and 229 on linux plus I can set to 1 and use less power. |
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So all these companies and a few you missed simply buy some coins and prop up price.
I see they spent 25 million early in Sat-Sun
Now they spent 13 million trading. So Zec drops a bit but the end result is a cheaper when to mine BTC then buying Asics from BitFury or Avalon or Bitmain!
Phil this looks like a solid idea on your part.
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deleted the post as the list does not need repeating. This idea of mine has been proposed by me before ZEC was around I said that companies were doing ETH. AND I proposed that a coin would be created to replace ETH for this purpose OF SELLING PC GEAR and boom along came ZEC. There will be new coins if and when needed. Since they sell gear. |
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The 5 asus are pending.
I am going to hold the remains Msi rx 470 red led 4gb model.
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Okay risers from hawkish . There are a few psus not mentioned .
Rose will has a very good titanium model
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