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2621  Economy / Speculation / Re: Here is why Bitcoin can only go down on: December 04, 2019, 10:16:39 AM
Whenever the prices falls or when market witness dump or correction period there are lot of negative threads similar like you which tries to create FUD by making wrong calculations and judgements which have no base.Everytime people who hate it say it will be dead as it is bubble which will burst out but everytime btc surge from bottom points and reach higher level as 2017 crash bottemed the prices below $5k and now it has pump to above $8000 and will continue to surge even higher and reach ATH so have faith and HODL.
Bitcoin has died more than hundreds times!
Yet we are here in quite decent price with a lot of supportive projects behind . You can call it whatever.. bitcoin has proven those people who doubting bitcoin since long time ago are completely wrong.

Well doesn't matter it falls dow to the lowest, it would always be a good news for me Grin

Even since the beginning when people laughing at the early adopters that money called bitcoin will not worth anything but shit.
Those early adopters are billionaires running business everywhere.
2622  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀 Sportsbet.io - Main Club Partner of Watford FC ⚽ Fun. 🏀 Fast. 🎾 Fair. 🏆 on: December 04, 2019, 09:38:51 AM


$1,200,000 worth of BTC is nothing to sportsbet.io, they would definitely pay that out. I presume when you start hitting silly figures in a potential bet it’d not allow you to place the bet for some outlandish figure like $100,000,000 worth of BTC winnings.

Either that or sportsbet.io would place the same bet elsewhere at a fiat bookies to cover themselves incase the win came in.
I knew it , they are a professional Grin .
Unlike this one

Nice bet, EdenHazard, but surely not as big as mine;)
Well that's smells like a veneno payout... 800btc is around $6 million US dollar. We should arrange a Lamborghini meetup after this winning Grin , don't you agree?

You guys are doing in for Multi Master promo right?

Yupp.

We are in another mission impossible. Luck seems so friendly these days to me.
2623  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 04, 2019, 08:01:07 AM

Before "answering" to this, where are you from? which team do you support?

Just found this on in your history. Are you a Inter fan  who is now talking aftar 8 years of nothing or one anti-Juventus fan who no knowledge on facts??

it will be shocking if there is a calciopoli part 2 , i see there between juventus is the real high class serie a club which always win and the club full of criminal management fixing serie a match.
i don't know the fact like that , unfair game which referee take sides etc. but the greatness of juventus recently need to be noted.


You really mean it Grin mate digging that deep

FYI I just an ordinary sportsbettor who interested in top 5 league include serie A .
Just giving my point of view as I have seen it all with my eyes not only data ... statistics... etc
I don't stand for juve sides nor anti-juve , I stand for profit Wink.

Best regards,


Eden Michael Hazard, a Chelsea Legend Grin
2624  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀 Sportsbet.io - Main Club Partner of Watford FC ⚽ Fun. 🏀 Fast. 🎾 Fair. 🏆 on: December 04, 2019, 07:27:12 AM


I wonder how much exactly the maximum winning at sportsbet.io?
Can't find it in T&C.

With this multibet of 87 million tron potential win worth around 173 bitcoin or $1.2 million US dollar.
I have no doubt sportsbet.io can pay this out.

But the question is how much exactly the max winning ?
2625  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: This is definitely huge for Binance traders! on: December 03, 2019, 03:03:12 PM
Well, that would be good if you have friends that use binance and want to exchange money between accounts but seriously for just a regular old long term investor like me it doesn't feel like it would make too much of a difference. Sure, I get paid for my work and if binance did something like that maybe it would turn into easier work and less fees and so forth but for me I would have to send it to my local exchange and turn it into fiat anyway so it won't make a HUGE difference to me.

Maybe one day it could possibly change something for someone but to me this is not really that critical. If it was that important right now there would have been pages and pages of discussions about how awesome it is, there is not and hence why its not really THAT important, its not a "must" have, its "good to" have for us.

And did you know that some other exchanges has done this since long time ago lol
This is a bit exaggerated for me but yeah that's just fair for those who expecting this zero fee and instant transfer for quite loooong Grin.

Of course this wouldn't make any huge difference in term boosting their popularity or something like that.
Once they allow users to withdraw , deposit or trade thousands bitcoin in the account without have to do kyc... people will come there in droves and talking about how great binance really is.

That would make a real bold difference  Grin
That's the breakthrough.
2626  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 03, 2019, 02:12:37 PM
Juventus sucks this season

Serie A
Juve
Points 36
Played 14
Wins 11
Draw 3
Lost 0

Champions
Juventus   
Points 13
Played 5
Wins 4
Draw 1
Lost 0


The only team in Europe in the top 5 Leagues without Losses.
Juventus is not sucking, the run of Inter is incredile so far.
And guess how many times they win in serie A with only 1 goal difference ?
9 times!

Guess how many times they win with 2-1 luck ?
5 times

1-0 win luck?
3 times

And several late winners of 90+ which completed Juventus a 'not bad form' run.

The juventus domination over the last 8 years to win their 9 serie A title consecutively looks like will be over this season if you look at the way they perform so far despite I do believe everything could still changed as the journey still far away from finished.

Idk man it's just my guts saying that they are sucks , if you watching them play in every games and have some bets on their side ... you'll be frustrated even though in the end they win the game, you'll feel insecure during the game with such what I called 'sucks' performance.
2627  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is still really bullish (Unpopular opinion) on: December 03, 2019, 12:42:32 PM
Bitcoin needs a new reason for the next bull run. The run up to $12,000 was based on anticipation of Bakkt and the belief this would bring new money into bitcoin. It hasn't wworked out like that.

i'm not convinced bakkt is what drove the rallies earlier this year. i think it had more to do with market psychology. hype is only fruitful in the context of a bull market where investors are hungry for risk. bakkt was also hyped all through 2018 but we crashed nearly to $3k instead.

our brains have a tendency to demand an explanation for events like big market moves. the truth is that we have no idea why buyers accumulated or why holders refused to sell on the way to $14k. all we know for sure is that when buyers outnumber sellers, the price rises. anything else is just speculation. Smiley
Overbought confirmed few months ago that's why we fall further to nearly $6,000 as the real reasonable price for bitcoin itself I personally believe is at around $7,000 exactly at the current position so I didn't even surprised to see all of these dramas.
I'm always bullish it's unquestionable  Grin .
Waiting patiently and do some trade while the market swinging, that's what I'm doing now and people might should try to go for it too without worrying which way bitcoin will go in the future, it's supposed to be up higher , that's the spirit of believers! Bitcoin is for the believer since day one , call me whatever it is speculator or something. I'm bullish all the way for no reason but looking for some another fortune just like what I have achieved back in 2014 to 2018 Grin .
2628  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 03, 2019, 11:52:22 AM
It's a shame I can't see the match between Juventus vs Sassoulo and Inter Milan vs SPAL because I have an outside event so I can't watch it but I'm happy because Inter Milan won 2-1 over SPAL so now the position is first,
Next week's match will be very exciting
Inter Milan vs Roma
Lazio vs Juventus

Will the perfect victory again for Inter Milan.
You don't have to. Juventus sucks this season as relying on ronaldo isn't a good option anymore, he is old and run getting slow lol sarri was right to subbed off him last month in a game against ac milan , he should do it often from now and play dybala in the line up more often , I'm pretty sure that's the reason why Juventus is not as good as few years ago.

I expected inter milan to stay at the top even with a draw or so against Roma as I expected juventus to have another bad results in the upcoming matches and the closest scheduled one is against that lazio away.
2629  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: December 03, 2019, 11:07:27 AM
I was eyeing a goalless game under 0.5 goals @9.5 which you know... 4 minutes till the normal 90 minutes time messi broke my hope.
There's only been one goaless draw out of the last 20 games between both teams in the league. Odds were totally against you, specially with boths teams hungry for a win last night. But I know the feeling of losing a bet with such odds just minutes before the final whistle...Devastating, but you'll get it next time (:
That's why I'm chasing the goalless bet  Grin , it's simply because that statistics .

The same way I'm chasing liverpool to lose in their current unbeaten campaign Wink . Must be worth it in the end.
I think I get used to lose bets in last minutes , la liga never fails to make me in profit with its huge odds provided Grin
Real madrid away against valencia next would be my highest profit target before the end of the year , got some formulas to go allin once in a year Grin .
2630  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin reach $ 19k again before 2022? (poll inside) on: December 02, 2019, 12:00:29 PM
you are asking for another more than 2 years more?does is sounds serious?

we have been into $19k in 2017 after the Bitcoin halving happens,and now we are coming to the same scenario again so what do we need to expect?

of course my answer is YES and no doubt about that,and i am very positive that in 2020-2021 we will achieved this Goal so there is no need to wait for another year then.
Is it even a sure thing? I don't think so .

You can always compare it to the way bitcoin jump in 2017 ... 1 year after the bitcoin halving occurred in 2016. That is the only proof that common people find to support their own predictions, so weak.
I would like to see bitcoin price rising more than what you can imagined if only there is a major step up in a mass adoption, one big company that even indirectly promotes cryptocurrency usage to the wide community globally.

Facebook digital currency for instance.

I would expect bitcoin price would follow to jump up with this Facebook digital currency (libra) legalized sentiment.
For instance. Once again for instance

But also I won't ignore the fact that in this free market you could achieve 10,000% gain and also could get 98% loss within few days only.
There's always chance opened for bitcoin itself to go plunged to as low as $1,000 even lower due  instead continue rising in the coming years. I'll just make sure that I'm fully aware about this.

I'm bitcoin believer too but I don't want to be obsessed too much.
2631  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: December 02, 2019, 10:19:19 AM

I am sorry for you but that is gambling some people win some other lose.I also think that Real Madrid has not the quality players to go away even with one point from Camp Nou.Barcelona has a better quality team in general over Real Madrid this year and most probably they will be Champions of La Liga not only in the end of 2019 but I think also in end of May 2020.
I wondering if Barcelona could humiliate real madrid again at camp nou by 4 goals winning margin  Grin , I'll try to go for handicap -2.5 for Barcelona later in the el classico day if only bookies provide a really good odds , should be worth it.
With eden hazard will be still missed at least till the next 9 days .. it's doubtful for him to get in the field few days only before the el classico held at 19.

Tough fixtures for real madrid:

12/7  against espanyol
12/12 against club brugge
12/16 against Valencia
12/19 against Barcelona

12 days 4 important games. 2 big games.  Madrid might will sacrifice the champions league match as they qualified already , nothing to chase there as they can't avoid to finish at the second.
2632  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I am not lucky in trading - what am I doing wrong? on: December 02, 2019, 08:57:24 AM
as a beginner trader you must learn to use RSI and Parabolic SAR as a reference when to buy and sell.  and you have to be patient, don't ever panic when trading when you already get profit, immediately take it, the most important thing is never to be greedy, it will make you regret that you can't sell at high prices.  remember price movements are volatility.
Oh well congratulations you just give a newbie some lights! Grin , at least provide a little bit explanation about what you have mentioned above about RSI and SAR itself.
But here lemme tell you something who wondering about these RSI and SAR .

RSI = Relative Strength Index
Is one of many popular technical trading tool
It's an indicator to evaluate the strength of the market.
To identify the overbought or oversold in the market.

Trading is not about being lucky or not indeed , you need to continue compounding knowledge and put it into action. Not only compounding the asset itself!
2633  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: December 02, 2019, 07:30:04 AM
Yesterday after losing a lot of tickets with Premier League teams I decided to go big and bet on Barcelona to win so I am very happy with their victory last night.I was expecting them to win if they want to continue to fight for the title and yesterday was a really difficult game.I paired them with Roma from Serie A and won the ticket with odd just over 5.
Not everyone are happy , unfortunately for me who love to bet against the bookies, this is not a good result.

I was eyeing a goalless game under 0.5 goals @9.5 which you know... 4 minutes till the normal 90 minutes time messi broke my hope.
I placed bet for over 5.5 goals too @18 to anticipate something crazy happened but yeah looks like it's just wasn't my day.
Barcelona at the top now as they win the goal difference over madrid, it's +1 exactly.
With 3 laliga matches left to play in 2019 and el classico in 19 dec , anything can still happened to decide who will end at the top by the end this year.
I guess Madrid won't make it as the el classico played at the camp nou.
2634  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: December 02, 2019, 06:51:18 AM
What a way to finish Matchweek 14:

- Watford sacked Sanchez Flores.
- Arsenal and Man Utd drew their respective games against two recently promoted teams.
- Ihenacho scored a late goal to win against Everton and keep The Foxes in the title race.
- And I didn't win a single bet today :/

Merseyside derby next Wednesday, it's very likely that Everton will sack Marco Silva after that game so, that would be three managers sacked in just a week...And Ole's still at the wheel LOL

We are now up for next games: Leicester vs Everton and Man Utd vs Aston Villa. I have put my singles on both as Leicester to win and Aston Villa or draw. Hope it goes my way.. already made some with my free bet now time to get some off from those money  Cheesy.
Enjoy those profits  Wink


What a late winner that was , I knew the late goal will coming for Leicester as I'm waiting the odds to increased at the normal time and it's frustrating the odds stay at around 3 or so , finally i got only 4.1 at 90' what a terrible odds i have ever seen these days.

Oh and speaking about sacked manager ... 'Ole at the wheel, tell me how bad it feels' Grin don't forget ole could be the next one to be sacked.

The line up for the next united manager are :

Pochettino
Allegri
Brendan rodgers
Laurent blanc

Allegri rejects arsenal job as he could make a deal with United, I like this scenario.
2635  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀 Sportsbet.io - Main Club Partner of Watford FC ⚽ Fun. 🏀 Fast. 🎾 Fair. 🏆 on: December 01, 2019, 11:13:56 AM
Today´s Sportsbet special is about the English Premier League matches and the total goals combined of all home teams. Over/Under 6.5 @ 1.9 for over and 2.00 for under. Thoughs?
Manchester united, Leicester city, wolves could easily score 2 goals each .
Leicester and Manchester united are so offensive when they play at home while Norwich struggling to score these days after pukki hype at the early season. Tough choice.
This special bet is always tricky 4 games , 2 offensive and the other a bit struggle.

If I have to choose I'll go for under. I don't bet on this .
2636  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 01, 2019, 10:21:39 AM

Maybe he doesn't need to play in the champions league because MU is a big team with a long history that is a pride playing for the United.
furthermore, not all players think to play in champions league, they also need money, and United can give that. imagine if everyone thinks to play in a club that joining champions league, maybe no player wants to move to Manchester United lol
Ah okay you are the Red Devil , of course GGMU Grin .

No offense dude pls , https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/10339725/erling-haaland-man-utd-champions-league-anthem-alarm-salzburg/

Legitimate.
Erling haaland sets champions league anthem as his morning alarm, how can you say now that he is not looking for playing in champions league? He is living his dream now. Will he leaving that dream?
Also not all players can be bought by money , Marco reus could earn millions dollar a month if back in 2015 he didn't rejected all the three English rich clubs such as liverpool , arsenal and Manchester United itself , I heard they offered reus £300,000 a week!
I can see it in haaland's eyes that he has strong principle about football rather than just earning money.
2637  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price Moving Towards $9500 Mark on: December 01, 2019, 09:20:26 AM
The market has been experiencing a massive downfall in the value. Now the price has come close to $7500. Maybe by the weekend the price might break the resistance reaching low to $7000. If that happens the price will reach to the low bottom of $5500 or even low. The market trend moving towards $9500 has now turned downwards. Possibly the upcoming year will give the best growth.
This dip is too deep but it is the right time to start buying and hodl until the price comes back then sell. Such quick method to actually gain some profit but it is not guaranteed that it will be effective for short term traders. Bitcoin experience a massive downfall this week although I think it is just the usual way of the market dropping and growing since it is an open market manipulation will always coexist.
People looks like forgotten on how the bitcoin market runs during these last 10 years. It's full of ups and downs stories  , get used to it and you'll find a way making money between those ups & downs periods.
I did found myself get benefits (a lot) with the bitcoin volatility, not to mention altcoins volatility that so far hasn't find its crazy movement from $0.01 to $20 Grin , I'm really exciting to see that moment coming though.

Let it flow , it's impossible to always predict the bitcoin movement correctly all the time. That's okay to be wrong , the point is are you still in profit with that personal analysis?
2638  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀 Sportsbet.io - Main Club Partner of Watford FC ⚽ Fun. 🏀 Fast. 🎾 Fair. �� on: December 01, 2019, 05:16:06 AM

<snip>
That's what I mean lol

Don't congratulate me , cause I win nothing but these Grin
While waiting 5 hours straight till 4PM

<snip>

I guess none of bitcointalk member get dropped that 100mbtc yesterday hmmm

Can we repeat it again on the black Saturday or something? Grin
You seemed to have a lucky day yesterday. I wonder if the stakes were big! So, no one won the 100 mBTC from the forum?
Mmmmm hhmmm ... not really
Here's the spoiler



I feel bad for your parlay as manchester city, bayern munich and Chelsea all disappointed you.
you can get an odds of @8.66 alone with that single bet of real madrid to win and both teams to score Grin .

Steve hasn't confirmed about the 100mbtc black friday yet , but I'm sure none of us from here got that 100mbtc dropped in the account, not this time.
2639  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: December 01, 2019, 04:28:42 AM
I really like home win for Leicester - Everton and odds are fair.
Everton has 8 players out or questionable for this match.
Jamie Vardy is in great form and top EPL league scorer.
Can Leicester continue this great winning run?
I think yes.
With this win they will take 2nd place in EPL

Manchester city got only 1 point
Chelsea also completely failed to get 3 points
11 points clear now for liverpool at the very top.

To sum it up this could be a bad week for the title race contenders... Leicester next?
Quite nice odds for the draw or everton @2.4 , I might give this a shot!
Leicester city to win at home a bit higher @1.65 now , this just make me more curious .
2640  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Altcoins or Bitcoin? on: November 30, 2019, 01:36:19 PM
Personally I would go for a 100% BTC focused portfolio IF I had to choose between the two, but I believe that altcoins have higher growth potential than BTC just because we haven't seen any serious institutional funds pouring into them. Who knows what heights can them achieve if that would happen? BTC is the less risky choice though if the potential reward is somehow more conservative.
As you say, if you are a safe and low-risk person, invest 100% in bitcoin, and if you are high risk and big reward put your money in altcoin, depending on the benefit. The profit you want and the risk you can bear, in the altcoin market is often unstable so you need to watch closely and focus, for me, I will choose both, one for the long term and one for the short term.
Both bitcoin and altcoins are very high risk investment, if you looking for super duper mega ultra double extra safe then you should go for property investment Grin .
But first of all op you should never ask for financial advice here, there's a lot of people randomly giving thoughts around, take this discussion as a consideration but never pick it 100% .

Always making plan B if your investment went wrong, don't put your money in a single investment that's the fatal mistake made by newcomers and educate yourself to manage money properly, that's all the basic instruments that every investor/hodler should have.
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