I like the way this discussion is going. Very interesting.
What if we made an API and let third parties create stuff like this to get in on the XC action?
Left or right, IMO a "decentralized" API into the XCurrency network is needed somehow to break out of the currenly semi closed altcoin world. Was btw under the impression that the future framework was going into that direction, but that was maybe an assumptions based on my own ideas. All coins got a centralized API somewhere in one or more blockchain sites .... But the minute i needed that data for an app i started making my own explorer, simple matter "TrustNoOne" ... unless its decentralized  Yes the blockchain 2.0 and web 3.0 concepts presuppose some sort of open-ended development possibilities, and XC is headed squarely in that direction. As for the manner in which we're implementing this, you'll know before long :-) |
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I like the way this discussion is going. Very interesting.
What if we made an API and let third parties create stuff like this to get in on the XC action?
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what is xcmerch? more details please.
It could also be this, among other things:  |
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***The XC Daily Update***
- Dan's working on the as-yet undisclosed Rev 2 privacy feature
- I'm researching ways to market XChat in China (suggestions welcome)
- Christian's working on... future developments ;-)
XC Land... where every day is like Xmas morning He forgot about me again...  jk I'm working on, well... :  Indeed! Sorry Teka ;-) |
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***The XC Daily Update***
- Dan's working on the as-yet undisclosed Rev 2 privacy feature
- I'm researching ways to market XChat in China (suggestions welcome)
- Christian's working on... future developments ;-)
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When are we going to hear about that undisclosed privacy feature?!? I can't wait much longer.... just tell us already!!!
Heh. When it's ready :-) It doesn't need to be ready... just announce it, give us a hint, give us something!  Personally we're all itching to. :-) However we've endured a lot of baseless but damaging FUD for making promises before we deliver on them. Also when we've announced something before releasing it, people dump on the release. Lastly there's a very long list of future developments that we could announce, but that would just spoil the story, and attract more FUD. |
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When are we going to hear about that undisclosed privacy feature?!? I can't wait much longer.... just tell us already!!!
Heh. When it's ready :-) |
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pookielax31 on Today at 04:55:33 PM
this man is real failure of human nature.
So, I was just talking in #cloakcoin and MrBoh happened to accidentally spell my name "battbott" when referring to me... tell me that he did not fake those irc logs...my god. MrBoh and pookielax = same person = weeds. Ah fake pastebin logs.. whats next? Anyways an updated release will be coming this weekend [Sunday Night], with both XChat and Decentralized Private Transactions in a single wallet for mainnet. Dan Wow, it sound like REV 2.5. No preview of the UI yet. Also there's a Rev 2 privacy feature still to come... and then final Rev 2... and then Rev 2.5 :-) |
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That a great summery! I hlod some XC, but only a token amount.
Metcalfe is an ad-hoc meshtech guru, but his crypto skills aren't anything special. And one does not simply anon a coin, or it would have been done already.
Being closed source, even for a little while, is not acceptable and shows the XC paradigm and approach are flawed.
The premine is also an issue. If (highly successful) Monero can be 100% open source and 0% premined, XC's excuses are invalid.
He would probably be wider appreciated if he was not dispersing dev power, but rather contributed to some of the projects that has most of network effect potential Interesting point. You're probably correct. On the other hand XC's approach is unique (layered, flexible, designed for mobile and for scalability), and so starting afresh makes sense. |
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- XC does not use Github for development. Dan temporarily put some early XC code into Github to refute FUD-claims that it was a Fedora clone. The code was subjected to peer review, clearing the allegations, and then deleted. - XC open-sources its code on a delayed timeline. Recently XC released its Rev 1 mixer. - XC's Team have made their identities public and thus put their reputations at stake. If you think they're shady, you'll need to substantiate your view, because the evidence here is to the contrary. - Cachecoin is a project of Jasinlee's, and Jasin is an XC developer. Cachecoin is in active development, none of the premine has been dumped there is no premine, and its future concerns PoBC, which is part of how XC will run on mobile phones. - XC's ATM integration is not related to hiring anyone. The first two members of the incipient XC Foundation are involved in ATMs. As they're Foundation members they're not being paid. So that part of your statement is ill-informed conjecture. - XC's premine is necessary to fund sustained development. You're welcome to disagree, but I fail to see how it constitutes something suspicious. (a) It can't be spent unaccountably, since people are always watching it. (b) It's more candid than an instamine and (c) it doesn't require taking other people's money upfront like an IPO. I'm open to discussion on this last point, but I don't think that it can be used to substantiate claims of XC being suspicious without substantial further argument as to why this might be the case. That a great summery! I hlod some XC, but only a token amount. Metcalfe is an ad-hoc meshtech guru, but his crypto skills aren't anything special. And one does not simply anon a coin, or it would have been done already. Being closed source, even for a little while, is not acceptable and shows the XC paradigm and approach are flawed. The premine is also an issue. If (highly successful) Monero can be 100% open source and 0% premined, XC's excuses are invalid. Thanks :-) About being closed source: XC's stance is that while being open-source is ideal, it is equally important to limit the prevalence of P&D scams and cheap knockoff clones that deceive noobs, dilute the marketplace, and reduce confidence in altoins in general. It's a phenomenon that hurts every project and is profoundly unethical. Here's XC's statement: XC is committed to the open source model. Open source code is vital for the health and advancement of cryptographic technologies, and it is a privilege to share our technical breakthroughs with a community such as this. We believe that XC's code embodies several world-firsts enabling anonymity that is scalable, mobile-friendly, POS-integrated, and is ultimately a platform upon which a broad range of Blockchain 2.0 technologies will be built.
However people’s faith in cryptocurrency projects is significantly hindered by clones. Therefore we believe that the ethical way to engage with the community is to make our code available on a delayed timeline. This way, the community will still benefit from our work, while we'd reduce the incentive for developers to flood the marketplace with clones that lack a long term future and reduce the trustworthiness of the altcoin phenomenon. XC represents several market-leading innovations, and we are honoured to make these available to the community in the near future.As for the premine, XC would also be able to fund development with no premine if highly successful. But if needs to get there first, and for that it'll need a big investment in top-notch development. Have you seen XC's rate of progress? Since its launch on 8 May it's delivered the Xnode protocol (true P2P with end-to-end encryption), trustless mixing, multipath ad hoc networking, the XC TOR Stick, and XChat. Up next is the official public launch, and then full-featured mobile wallets. You don't get that without funding. |
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- XC does not use Github for development. Dan temporarily put some early XC code into Github to refute FUD-claims that it was a Fedora clone. The code was subjected to peer review, clearing the allegations, and then deleted. - XC open-sources its code on a delayed timeline. Recently XC released its Rev 1 mixer. - XC's Team have made their identities public and thus put their reputations at stake. If you think they're shady, you'll need to substantiate your view, because the evidence here is to the contrary. - Cachecoin is a project of Jasinlee's, and Jasin is an XC developer. Cachecoin is in active development, none of the premine has been dumped there is no premine, and its future concerns PoBC, which is part of how XC will run on mobile phones. - XC's ATM integration is not related to hiring anyone. The first two members of the incipient XC Foundation are involved in ATMs. As they're Foundation members they're not being paid. So that part of your statement is ill-informed conjecture. - XC's premine is necessary to fund sustained development. You're welcome to disagree, but I fail to see how it constitutes something suspicious. (a) It can't be spent unaccountably, since people are always watching it. (b) It's more candid than an instamine and (c) it doesn't require taking other people's money upfront like an IPO. I'm open to discussion on this last point, but I don't think that it can be used to substantiate claims of XC being suspicious without substantial further argument as to why this might be the case. That a great summery! I hlod some XC, but only a token amount. Metcalfe is an ad-hoc meshtech guru, but his crypto skills aren't anything special. And one does not simply anon a coin, or it would have been done already. Being closed source, even for a little while, is not acceptable and shows the XC paradigm and approach are flawed. The premine is also an issue. If (highly successful) Monero can be 100% open source and 0% premined, XC's excuses are invalid. Thanks :-) About being closed source: XC's stance is that while being open-source is ideal, it is equally important to limit the prevalence of P&D scams and cheap knockoff clones that deceive noobs, dilute the marketplace, and reduce confidence in altoins in general. It's a phenomenon that hurts every project and is profoundly unethical. Here's XC's statement: XC is committed to the open source model. Open source code is vital for the health and advancement of cryptographic technologies, and it is a privilege to share our technical breakthroughs with a community such as this. We believe that XC's code embodies several world-firsts enabling anonymity that is scalable, mobile-friendly, POS-integrated, and is ultimately a platform upon which a broad range of Blockchain 2.0 technologies will be built.
However people’s faith in cryptocurrency projects is significantly hindered by clones. Therefore we believe that the ethical way to engage with the community is to make our code available on a delayed timeline. This way, the community will still benefit from our work, while we'd reduce the incentive for developers to flood the marketplace with clones that lack a long term future and reduce the trustworthiness of the altcoin phenomenon. XC represents several market-leading innovations, and we are honoured to make these available to the community in the near future. |
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In the new release of Talkcoin users could create encrypted private room and only who knows the passkey could see the messages. Now only the name of the room still not encrypted, but in the next release all will be encrypted. Ok. Ah well, it appears that there's no longer any doubt that XChat uses different tech to Talkcoin. Nice. Done. You're welcome to check back in here when we make the code public. Ok thanks for the info. And the question about VoIP feature. It uses the same tech with KoreCoin ? We haven't coded that yet, thus since no voice chat tech exists yet, no. Also I doubt it, since our communications protocol is different. Dan (XC's core dev) has extensive experience designing mesh networks for communication, so he'll make use of that for XChat's voice-based features. |
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I would like to read to source code in order to see whether XC clones these new features from Talkcoin and Korecoin.
Anyone could point me to the recent source code? Thanks.
Doesn't talkcoin use the blockchain to store the msg? XChat does not use the blockchain Talkcoin uses the blockchain? Now that's a silly idea. If, at any point in the infinite future, someone gets a private key you used to chat, then they'd get your messages. **Not very private.** Gotta love XChat. In the new release of Talkcoin users could create encrypted private room and only who knows the passkey could see the messages. Now only the name of the room still not encrypted, but in the next release all will be encrypted. Ok. Ah well, it appears that there's no longer any doubt that XChat uses different tech to Talkcoin. Nice. Done. You're welcome to check back in here when we make the code public. |
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I would like to read to source code in order to see whether XC clones these new features from Talkcoin and Korecoin.
Anyone could point me to the recent source code? Thanks.
Doesn't talkcoin use the blockchain to store the msg? XChat does not use the blockchain Talkcoin uses the blockchain? Now that's a silly idea. If, at any point in the infinite future, someone gets a private key you used to chat, then they'd get your messages. **Not very private.** Gotta love XChat. |
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I would like to read to source code in order to see whether XC clones these new features from Talkcoin and Korecoin.
Anyone could point me to the recent source code? Thanks.
XC releases its code on a delayed timeline. Recently we made our Rev 1 mixer open source. XChat is based on the Xnode protocol which was developed for Rev 1 and released on 26 May. It's end-to-end encrypted P2P communication. You'll get it before long. |
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I'm a troll
Do you not see the irony of your request? Although whoever is fudding cloak does not represent XC or even the majority of our community... what goes around comes around. You've been here fudding long before any XC supporter has. Wasnt a request was just letting you know why its gonna be open season for FUD over here.... I think the problem is that you appear to be enthusiastic for FUD "open-season". That's the sort of thing that got you ostracised from this community. Please i wasnt ostracised I sold at the top of the last pump to exit the community as it was going down in flames... No-one can ostracise you from your XC holdings. You got ostracised from this community. For being repeatedly and resolutely offensive, abusive, and unethical. |
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qawzsx ur welcome
Pookielax it's bad faith to not quote XC's response to that allegation.
Perfectly orchestrated Pump and Dump via feedback from shady developers who deleted their own altcoin github sources back in the day (XC). Another developer from XC was pumping Cachecoin a few weeks ago. This whole scene thing with "XC" wreaks of manipulation, malice and heck of lot of red-tape and corruption. Apparently the premine was used to "hire" other people in the team, who were later announced on a day where they did another pump and dump as the announcements came in of some guys who said they will integrate this altcoin in ATM.
You can also see some BTC-E trolls pumping KeyCoin at the moment. Same familiar faces. Everyone knows this too, they are just in it for doubling/tripling their BTC holdings and leave a lot of new forum members/crypto newbies bagholding who will inadvertently later on create threads about how awesome KeyCoin is and pollute other coin threads with their incessant shilling, while the puppet/pump masters are gone and onto the next anon coin. Same story over and over.
I think XC is the first such coin, along a now growing list of anon wannabe coins.
You refer to old and discredited FUD about XC. - XC does not use Github for development. Dan temporarily put some early XC code into Github to refute FUD-claims that it was a Fedora clone. The code was subjected to peer review, clearing the allegations, and then deleted. - XC open-sources its code on a delayed timeline. Recently XC released its Rev 1 mixer. - XC's Team have made their identities public and thus put their reputations at stake. If you think they're shady, you'll need to substantiate your view, because the evidence here is to the contrary. - Cachecoin is a project of Jasinlee's, and Jasin is an XC developer. Cachecoin is in active development, none of the premine has been dumped, and its future concerns PoBC, which is part of how XC will run on mobile phones. - XC's ATM integration is not related to hiring anyone. The first two members of the incipient XC Foundation are involved in ATMs. As they're Foundation members they're not being paid. So that part of your statement is ill-informed conjecture. - XC's premine is necessary to fund sustained development. You're welcome to disagree, but I fail to see how it constitutes something suspicious. (a) It can't be spent unaccountably, since people are always watching it. (b) It's more candid than an instamine and (c) it doesn't require taking other people's money upfront like an IPO. I'm open to discussion on this last point, but I don't think that it can be used to substantiate claims of XC being suspicious without substantial further argument as to why this might be the case. - Lastly I cannot comment on KeyCoin's legitimacy, other than to note my public annoyance at their frequent omission of the fact that they're using last-gen XC tech. |
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I'm a troll
Do you not see the irony of your request? Although whoever is fudding cloak does not represent XC or even the majority of our community... what goes around comes around. You've been here fudding long before any XC supporter has. Wasnt a request was just letting you know why its gonna be open season for FUD over here.... I think the problem is that you appear to be enthusiastic for FUD "open-season". That's the sort of thing that got you ostracised from this community. |
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The last few weeks there is a lot of talk about private chat and video/voice chat. But how is this going to increase xc sales? how can you garantee that the people who want private chats are going to buy xc? (im trying to understand what way xc is going, so this is no troll of something)
This: ***The XC Daily Update***
Hello all It's been confirmed by the developers that XChat will include voice calling in post-Rev 3 editions, and video calling further into the future. So basically we have a decentralised, private, Skype.  Here's to the future! |
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FUDs are back... it did not take long
Facts...scam coin!!! Centralized shit... Just read your post... no wonder your so butthurt your and XC fanboy... hahaha well thanks for officially making it open season over there... i stopped posting shit on there thread but thanks to you im back Tell your fucking trolls to get back on there leash before you all open up a FUD storm you cant handle... and you wonder why we come in here .... this FUCK tard post scam every 30 seconds.... from recent post its obvious this troll belongs to you all Thanks for letting me know about this Pookielax (though your tone is rather awful). Qawzsx, if you're associated with XC then please do not post FUD of any kind.  |
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