μαλλον ειναι χαβαη ολο το προσωπικο και το συστημα δουλευει στο αυτοματο, μεχρι να καταρευσει! παω να τα τραβηξω ολα! (καλη μου τυχη)
η απάντηση είναι bittrex. Μην ρισκάρεις με αυτούς άλλο. Κάτι να σου γίνει δεν θα βρεις ανταπόκριση από το ανύπαρκτο support τους ποτέ. Στο bittrex ένα πρόβλημα που είχα μου απάντησαν μέσα σε δύο μέρες.
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πάντως αυτή την στιγμή τα feature του είναι στο 15% της ισοτιμίας του Bitcoin. Δεν βλέπω να έχει μέλλον αυτό το φορκ. Ο αρχικός σχεδιασμός ήταν να πάνε όλοι προς το fork και ώστε όλο το οικοσύστημα αναγκαστικά να ακολουθήσεί. Πλέον κυρίως με τους miner f2pool και slush που επαναστάτησαν και διόρθωση της δυσκολίας γρήγορα θα έχουμε και το δίκτυο δεν θα αντιμετωπίσει μεγάλο πρόβλημα. Υπάρχει και η ισοτιμία και δεν ξέρω αν οι miner θελήσουν να πάρουν τέτοιο ρίσκο πλέον.
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και μια απάντηση από τον Αντωνόπουλο για το τι θα συμβεί με το fork του segwit2x και με το κάθε fork. Οι χρήστες δεν πρέπει να ανησυχούν γιατί στην ουσιά το μόνο που γίνετε είναι να διπλασιάζουν τα token τους καθώς θα έχουν τα ίδια token στην νέα αλυσίδα.
ναι αλλα καλο ειναι να καταλαβουμε και το replay risk - μετα την εφαρμογη του fork + airdrop. εαν κανεις ξοδεψει btc ενω δεν υπαρχει replay protection, παιρνει το ρισκο να ξοδευτουν και τα νεα airdrop coins? Και αντιστοιχα, εαν αποφασισει να ξοδεψει τα νεα coins, ρισκαρει να ξοδευτουν τα btc UTXOs ταυτοχρονα? απλά χωρίς replay protection ότι coin στέλνεις στο ένα chain θα φεύγει και στο άλλο chain εφόσον οι διευθύνσεις είναι συμβατές με το chain που το στέλνεις. Μπορείς να το αποφύγεις αυτό απλά στέλνοντας και ένα μικρό fee σε μια διεύθυνση ας πούμε που περιέχεται σε ένα block ενός chain μετά το fork. Γενικά πάντως νομίζω ότι όσοι χρησιμοποιούν το Bitcoin οι περισσότεροι απλά δεν θα τους νοιάζει τι θα γίνετε με τα coin στο fork chain
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H xapo χθές ανακοίνωσε ότι θα θεωρούν το fork του Bitcoin σαν το κανονικό bitcoin ενώ τo Bitcoin θα το θεωρούν ως fork του forked coin.. heh? Δεν κάνω πλάκα έτσι ακριβώς το έγραψαν.. At that point some miners may decide to ignore that block and continue mining on a 1MB block max-sized chain and that may create another fork in the Bitcoin Network. https://blog.xapo.com/about-the-bitcoin-segwit2x-update/εντάξει οι τύποι απλά δεν υπάρχουν. Πάντως καθημερινά όλο και περισσότεροι κάνουν drop την υποστήριξη τους στο NYA. Χθές μια από τις εταιρείες που το είχαν υπογράψει η Surbtc έφυγε και αυτή από την συμφωνία https://blog.surbtc.com/our-stance-on-the-segwit2x-hard-fork-9fd04323667bΠάμε για μεγάλο διχασμό όπως όλα δείχνουν με αυτό το fork. Τα features στο bitfinex του forked coin είναι στο 25% του Bitcoin.
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ισχυει ακομα το προβλημα με το Poloniex;
αυτο που αναφερει ο theoulis ειναι πολυ σημαντικο!
αυτό ισχύει για όλα τα ανταλλακτήρια νομίζω
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Τα 5k πάντως δείχνουν να έχουν μεγάλες αντιστάσεις. Να δούμε αν σπάσει αυτό το φράγμα τις επόμενες μέρες.
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νομίζω ότι τους περισσότερους απλά δεν θα τους νοιάζει και δεν θα ενδιαφέρονται για το τι κάνουν τα altcoin τους.
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ok in the future i will point you for everyone that will need help about money lost or misleading false cross chain trasnactions from Xapo platform.
That's fine. I've been here for 5 years helping people. I don't mind helping them in the future. As i see you have get the role of Xapo defender and the role of their customer support.
And you have get the role of Xapo slanderer and defamer. How much are you getting paid to do that? You have not answer yet what is your economical relationship with them.
Yes. I did. learn to read. I dont know what economical relationships you have with Xapo
None at all. I'm just pointing out the rediculousness of your claims so that others don't become frightened by your wild imagination. Only someone with economical relationship wil defend them with such a passion.
I'm not defending them. I'm just pointing out the ridiculousness of your thread to protect those that might not know better and might become misled by your nonsense. can you stop offend ppl and to play the smart guy? I never offend you and never use term like you use even if you support with passion hoaxers and a fraud attemp from Xapo to swap customer coins from bitcoin to a new altcoin without any permission. You support this payment provider and you are not warn ppl about the danger situation that they enter if they keep their bitcoin to this platform after the fork. And you refuse to notice the danger situation with the replay attack, because this fork will have not any replay protection at all. Who is misleading ppl now? Me or you?
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and how you call it if someone fork the chain and force ppl to follow their forked chain as Bitcoin?
Capitalism. Why i have to trust this ppl
I never said you have to trust anyone about anything. and why you have to blame me as a slander
Because you are saying false negative things about them. That is slander. And where they say that they will add a replay protection for their customers?
https://blog.xapo.com/about-the-bitcoin-segwit2x-update/As soon as it is safe to send the minority chain to exchanges we are going to make it available to our customers for them to easily sell it or withdraw from Xapo.
We are going to do our best to continue to work without interruptions during the fork, like we were able to do during the Bitcoin Cash fork. But if we consider that doing so compromises the security of our customer’s bitcoins in any way we may decide to halt operations for a few days or up to a week, at our discretion.
Sounds to me like they are planning on protecting their customers. Sounds to me like you are engaging in evil, lying, manipulative, slander and defamation to create FUD and scare people. A common description for such behavior is "troll". ok in the future i will point you for everyone that will need help about money lost or misleading false cross chain trasnactions from Xapo platform. As i see you have get the role of Xapo defender and the role of their customer support. You have not answer yet what is your economical relationship with them. Because and this is what i call capitalism. Only someone with economical relationship wil defend them with such a passion.
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and in my view your denial for a danger situation is very danger. Is danger to say to a bitcoin holder to this platform that everything will be Ok
That is a danger for ALL platforms. If you don't have exclusive control of the private keys, then you don't have any bitcoins. All you have is a promise. This is true of Xapo, Coinbase, BitFinex, and all the other businesses that accept bitcoins and provide bitcoin denominated accounts. in the same time this platform switch a chain without wanring users
Fortunately, Xapo has warned users about what they plans are for choosing and naming the chains. and the most danger switch a chain without a replay protection to their platform
And since you have no evidence that they won't have replay protection, you are spreading FUD and NONSENSE. I dont know what economical relationships you have with Xapo
None at all. I'm just pointing out the rediculousness of your claims so that others don't become frightened by your wild imagination. but i have to warn ppl about it.
You have the right to imagine and say whatever you want. But I have the right to point out your ridiculousness to those that might read the nonsense that you write. Replay attack happen before two years in summer to Coinbase and had a result this exchange to lost thousand of ethereum classic tokens.
So, perhaps you should be warning everyone about Coinbase incompetence then? The fact that Coinbase had a replay problem in the past is not evidence that Xapo has a replay problem today. This attack can easily can be in exchanges or payment providers that not take measures to solve it like Xapo as i say.
Unless Xapo has stated they have a replay problem, or unless you work for Xapo and are authorized to speak on their behalf, or unless you have actual evidence of a replay problem at Xapo, you are just making up nonsense out of your own imagination and then making baseless accusations. Slander is an evil behavior and you really should be more careful about making false accusations. “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."and how you call it if someone fork the chain and force ppl to follow their forked chain as Bitcoin? Why i have to trust this ppl and why you have to blame me as a slander when Xapo try to fraud ppl money. And where they say that they will add a replay protection for their customers?
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I can bet you that all the exchanges will stop deposit, withdraws for hours maybe for days to solve this problem.
It's not a problem, because most exchanges have already solved it. Exchanges or payment providers like Xapo that will not protect their customers will had a serious problem.
There is no reason to believe that Xapo will not perform replay protection. Your FUD and NONSENSE is getting boring. and in my view your denial for a danger situation is very danger. Is danger to say to a bitcoin holder to this platform that everything will be Ok in the same time this platform switch a chain without wanring users and the most danger switch a chain without a replay protection to their platform I dont know what economical relationships you have with Xapo but i have to warn ppl about it. Replay attack happen before two years in summer to Coinbase and had a result this exchange to lost thousand of ethereum classic tokens. This attack can easily can be in exchanges or payment providers that not take measures to solve it like Xapo as i say.
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- snip - to split your coins you need - snip - 2. to transfer all of your bitcoins to the new addresses that is only spendable to the forked chain. - snip -
This is not true. how is not true? It is not true, because you do not need to "transfer all of your bitcoins to the new addresses that is only spendable to the forked chain". You simply need to include a single input in your transaction that exists on only one side of the fork. If you do that, then the entire transaction cannot be replayed on the other side. I can bet you that all the exchanges will stop deposit, withdraws for hours maybe for days to solve this problem. Exchanges or payment providers like Xapo that will not protect their customers will had a serious problem.
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- snip - to split your coins you need - snip - 2. to transfer all of your bitcoins to the new addresses that is only spendable to the forked chain. - snip -
This is not true. how is not true? You don know what happen to Coinbase with etc-ethereum fork?
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