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2641  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: November 30, 2019, 09:07:00 AM
Today we have match between Celta Vigo and Valladolid, it is puzzle what to expect from Celta as they were finding it hard to score goals in the past but they had a good performance against Villareal which was unexpected and if that could help them boost their confidence i expect them to win the match here.
Yupp celta vigo is struggling to score goals this season.

It has been giornada 15 and they only managed to score 10 goals with 20 conceded , that was a bold difference.
Before the last week match against villareal when they scored 3 goals in a single match away , they used to score 1 goal per match and often goalless, what a shocker. Last season they are 4 points above the relegation spot, will they finally relegated this season if the bad trends continue... I think so.
A precious 1 point taken from celta vigo , real valladolid goal keeper jordi masip become a hero as he made several crucial saves yesterday. Well deserved.
2642  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can bitcoin readh 10000usd this year again? on: November 30, 2019, 08:11:25 AM
A chance is there, we've moved to $13k so why doubt if it's possible?

If not, let it happen by next year. The period is shorter today, we have one month remaining for the year to end but there can be a lot of things that might happen within that period.
We should not doubt on the capacity of bitcoin and we know that the price will soon rise again. There should be no rush and you should be patience for bitcoin because of so many challenges right now. The $10k is too easy for bitcoin, we already did that for so many times before and I'm sure it will happen again but a much bigger price this time and the adoption will be big too.
We always living in the dream life here , bitcoin bring people's dream with its madness volatility going from 0 value in 2008-2009 to $20,000 with only 8/9 years journey in 2016-2017 . Everyone riding the same expectation.. to get at least a better investment than the mainstream one. Bitcoin has proven it very well as the best performing investment.

Going from the current price $7,500 to $10,000 could be achieved easily in a single night. The question is , what would trigger it ? How?
I think some big whales are figuring out now Grin . This could be tricky as the halving day has become a public secret. I would say a major drop likely to happen after yesterday biggest daily gain in November.
We are not there yet heading to big event called bitcoin halving day , some turbulence would shaking your analysis in the coming weeks.
Thoughts?
2643  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: November 30, 2019, 06:45:55 AM

But Nuno Espírito Santo come as a favorite this morning to become the next arsenal manager , he did really well in Wolverhampton so far. Thoughts?
IMO he's not a great option, going from Emery to Nuno is a major step back, at least the spaniard is a great tactician (even though the recent results say otherwise). Nuno's Wolves performs well against the big teams, but they always have troubles against the low-tier sides.

There are so many names floating around right now: Marcelino, Allegri, Nuno, Ancelotti, etc.
No, not really.

Nuno can earn big name start from here in arsenal, doesn't matter even if he failed he came from zero though so nothing big to stake here even for the arsenal side either.
As you can read in the morning news that allegri rejects the north London job.
So far nuno, pochettino and Eddie howe is leading in the market.
I'll go for nuno and pochettino at my second pick. Must be crazy when pochettino landed in the other side of london.
2644  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀 Sportsbet.io - Main Club Partner of Watford FC ⚽ Fun. 🏀 Fast. 🎾 Fair. 🏆 on: November 30, 2019, 05:03:57 AM
I am surprised the 100 mBTC havent arrived in my account yet... Cheesy Must be some mistake or so  Cool
There are probably hundred thousand users and good luck waiting for the amount to reach your account Wink.

Ah i missed the last 3 hours i guess , just on signed to my account and seeing this black friday promo.

While waiting the lucky 100mbtc dropped to my account, there's a china basketball that I'm a little bit familiar to, I'll make a live fun parlay on it.
Wish the black Friday bring me luck Wink
Goodluck everyone!
Congrats on winning the 100mbtc drop and i have seen many people winning the competition in the past in the forum and i am yet to get lucky Wink . you are going to test your luck further playing a parlay and trying to make it to a BTC i guess  Smiley. Good luck and hope you will post your updates about how your parlay went Smiley.

Edit:
Now i understood what you were trying to tell  Cheesy.
Did anyone won the competition.
That's what I mean lol

Don't congratulate me , cause I win nothing but these Grin
While waiting 5 hours straight till 4PM



I guess none of bitcointalk member get dropped that 100mbtc yesterday hmmm

Can we repeat it again on the black Saturday or something? Grin
2645  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: November 29, 2019, 01:52:57 PM
I knew it! Unai Emery wasn't gonna last long.
We'll miss the mr good ebening, he should stay longer so the EPL points giveaway will continue Grin .

Sooner or later the domino effect will get there and here we are ... after pochettino getting sacked, arsenal is the first club following Tottenham and it could be interesting if pochettino is the one who appointed, a serial of managers betrayal seems inevitable here.
But Nuno Espírito Santo come as a favorite this morning to become the next arsenal manager , he did really well in Wolverhampton so far. Thoughts?
2646  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀 Sportsbet.io - Main Club Partner of Watford FC ⚽ Fun. 🏀 Fast. 🎾 Fair. 🏆 on: November 29, 2019, 01:03:17 PM
I am surprised the 100 mBTC havent arrived in my account yet... Cheesy Must be some mistake or so  Cool
Ah i missed the last 3 hours i guess , just on signed to my account and seeing this black friday promo.

While waiting the lucky 100mbtc dropped to my account, there's a china basketball that I'm a little bit familiar to, I'll make a live fun parlay on it.
Wish the black Friday bring me luck Wink
Goodluck everyone!
2647  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread on: November 29, 2019, 10:40:23 AM
My score: 23/24
One more chance next round...

It’s funny and tragic, the only pair that played without a goal is St. Etienne - Gent, I was watching the last 20 minutes cause was waiting for that goal to score, and it was somewhere in “the air”, there werw a few chances
Than, a red card stoppend all, there were no more football after that

I have to make a really good ticket(s) for the weekend to earn back some betting funds Smiley
Still chasing those over 0.5 goals for all of the europa league events mate? I'm with you next week in the last group stage match but with less event like half of yours 12 matches might could increase the chance to avoid that one unlucky game.

No surprising match actually .. unless a lot of unexpected result at the first half with a sweet result in the end.

I was worry porto left behind 0-1 at the half time as I have them in my easy parlay... thanks god they did managed a comeback.

Also besiktas who down 0-1 at the first half successfully make a crazy late comeback through adem ljajic penalty at 90+2.

Another one is braga ... they are down 1-3 until paulino starts the comeback at 64' and saving my day with final result 3-3 as my parlay included them also for home or draw @1.48 against Wolverhampton.

What a night for me! 3 different parlay, 3 matches saved it all!
2648  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Top 5 Ways to Earn Crypto While You Sleep on: November 29, 2019, 09:13:58 AM
My way of earning while sleeping is HODLING; not sure why OP is not considering about holding as it must be an easier way of making big money without efforts.


Holding is not going to earn you crypto but will earn you USD. if you have 10BTC today and you just hold, it will still be 10BTC 3 years after holding it. That's not a good option still. You need to get dirty by investing using the 10BTC you got to let it grow but doing it won't be easy that you can sleep. Those big guys up there don't actually sleep while they have thousands of it, they work harder, trade harder to the point of shilling the coins they try to monetize.
HODLING bitcoin might won't increase your bitcoin quantity . But what about HODLING altcoins as at some point the price of altcoin pairing with bitcoin get a higher rates especially in a bearish trend such as these days .. for example you are HODLING 10,000 waves worth 8,000 satoshi or 0.00008 bitcoin each , total you hodl 10,000 × 0.00008 = 0.8 bitcoin at the current bitcoin price at $7,500 so the 0.8 bitcoin is worth $6,500.

Let's say in 2021 the price of bitcoin is at $50,000 and the price of 1 waves is 20,000 satoshi or 0.0002 , as you have and HODLING 10,000 waves x 0.0002 = 2 bitcoin!
Congratulations! You just earned 1.2 bitcoin while you sleep for around 2 years oh and you have gained value in USD too , you are up $93,500 (2 bitcoin worth $50,000 = $100,000  - $6,500 = $93,500 just by HODLING altcoin!

It seems easy, but as you can see, it is not easy to hold Altcoin right now, most of Altcoin has experienced a large decrease. sometimes when bitcoin rises very high altcoin prices will fall even more, but of course there will be alt season time, but will it increase above 100%?
Altcoin often increase more than just hundreds percent, it's thousands percent!
Remember how ripple climbs up to the top 2 cryptocurrency in term of market capitalization? The coin gained 36,000%! Putting them ahead of bitcoin in 2017 as the highest gainer and best cryptocurrency performance that moment, can we do it again?

I won't encourage anyone to do this , just make your own research and draw a conclusion immediately before it's too late!
HODLING could be considered as a passive income for me , based on my own 'earnings' definition. HODLING alts!
Goodluck.
2649  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: November 29, 2019, 08:37:17 AM

the rule is if there are 2 teams that have the same points then the ones above are the team that is superior head to head. Chelsea obviously will not qualify if they lose in the final matchday. They must win against lille to ensure their escape. Unless Ajax defeats Valencia, Chelsea just need a draw to qualify.
Yuppp , a win is a must.

They well play at home anyways .. should be easy but also shouldn't underestimate lille even though they are sucks at the group stage matches with only 1 point collected when they tied 1-1 against 10 men Valencia.
The group H is one of deadly excited group as actually all of the teams has an equal quality, not a group of death like in the group F Barcelona , inter milan and Dortmund... at least I can say this is the most high intensity group after the group F.
2650  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin-Satoshi Conference 2020 (Dubai) on: November 28, 2019, 12:21:05 PM
Some support..

Yes, I might decide to give away 1 BTC to each Faketoshi and Satoshi Candidates. It will cost me 40 BTC to bring 40 people for a week to enjoy the Expo Dubai 2020.
Send 40 BTC to an Bitcoin account of you and sign a message, for example 'for the Invitation Expo Dubai 2020 Bitcoin', publish it. It will make your work easier.

I might invite His Majesty the Ruler of Dubai in the  opening ceremony  of the Bitcoin-Satoshi Blockchain Conference.
If you can arrange, the King of Dubai should invite Satoshi publicly. It would help you make your work easier.
Do this .
I'll come to you, moses.

I'm in Dubai for some real estate meetings in the next 60 days , Dubai expo also in my agenda.
Show us the blueprint of your plan to show that this is not a fantasy planning but a serious one.

Everything can be done easily whenever the money are on the table.
Of course to accommodate things ...
2651  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Top 5 Ways to Earn Crypto While You Sleep on: November 28, 2019, 11:19:31 AM
My way of earning while sleeping is HODLING; not sure why OP is not considering about holding as it must be an easier way of making big money without efforts.


Holding is not going to earn you crypto but will earn you USD. if you have 10BTC today and you just hold, it will still be 10BTC 3 years after holding it. That's not a good option still. You need to get dirty by investing using the 10BTC you got to let it grow but doing it won't be easy that you can sleep. Those big guys up there don't actually sleep while they have thousands of it, they work harder, trade harder to the point of shilling the coins they try to monetize.
HODLING bitcoin might won't increase your bitcoin quantity . But what about HODLING altcoins as at some point the price of altcoin pairing with bitcoin get a higher rates especially in a bearish trend such as these days .. for example you are HODLING 10,000 waves worth 8,000 satoshi or 0.00008 bitcoin each , total you hodl 10,000 × 0.00008 = 0.8 bitcoin at the current bitcoin price at $7,500 so the 0.8 bitcoin is worth $6,500.

Let's say in 2021 the price of bitcoin is at $50,000 and the price of 1 waves is 20,000 satoshi or 0.0002 , as you have and HODLING 10,000 waves x 0.0002 = 2 bitcoin!
Congratulations! You just earned 1.2 bitcoin while you sleep for around 2 years oh and you have gained value in USD too , you are up $93,500 (2 bitcoin worth $50,000 = $100,000  - $6,500 = $93,500 just by HODLING altcoin!
2652  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 28, 2019, 10:11:39 AM
Manchester United's plan to buy Halland seems to get a little interference from Leipzig. It looks like Halland will move to Leipzig at a cheap price. rumors about United interest in recruiting Halland were widely reported because his father was reportedly visiting Carrington to discuss his son's move
https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/erling-haaland-man-utd-liverpool-rb-leipzig-handed-advantage-race-dealt-blow

There’s yet a good chance he’ll move to Manchester United because of his close connections to Ole, and the plan from Manchester United side is to loan him back to his current club till the end of the current season. In my opinion this is not a good transfer for Manchester United, because Halland is yet young and what we currently need is an experienced striker who can boost other strikers confidence too. Also Sancho is being constantly linked to Manchester United do you’ll think they can convince him to come and play for them, because he’s keen to play in Champions League and not Europa League.

Sources:

https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/16/manchester-united-willing-loan-erling-haaland-back-rb-salzburg-complete-transfer-11166265/

https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/26/manchester-united-leading-liverpool-100m-jadon-sancho-race-11221810/

Doesn't makes sense lol if he would like to swap champions league to europa league by joining united this season .
Manchester United so far the only serious club that interested in him , with Leipzig one step ahead as both Leipzig and Salzburg owned by red bull , a move to Leipzig would be more realistic as they are also qualified for the next champions league round.

United need to let this kid go and recruit him later in the next 2 or 3 years when he has developed and show his full potential. He is obviously also not interested in United move several times when interviewed. At least for now ... sayonara united.
2653  Economy / Speculation / Re: Warning! Here's Why BTC is Set To Fall To 3000 or Lower! on: November 28, 2019, 08:48:10 AM
If the market goes to $3K, it's not stopping there. Too much time has passed for a proper double bottom. We've trapped too much supply at much higher prices. Like xxxx123abcxxxx, I would be aiming closer to the $1K-$1,200 range near the 2013 highs.

I'm still favoring a bullish outcome though. I see this June-November correction as similar to the November 2015-May 2016 correction. We may need to ride out this bearishness until the halving pump next quarter though.

Thanks for your insight, Yeah I've seen similarities as well so I guess we just need to keep grinding day to day. I mean I'm not here duding the 2015-2016 correction so it might have been painful for those who have witnessed it. But I guess they keep their mentality intact and that's why they are rewarded by the 2017 bull run. So just ride out this bearish trend and long term term, bitcoin block halving in 2020.
Well I won't compare the situation right now to anything, IMHO there's very small chance only that things could repeated just like in the past .

Today is today and tomorrow is tomorrow, let the yesterday be a history.
You must be happy whenever the price fall , there's no better time to buy more bitcoin at the current cheap and cheaper price, don't miss out.
People need to set a two sides strategy, one to expecting price to go low as you want to buy a lot of bitcoin with discounted price and the other is expecting the bitcoin halving in 2020 would make a significant price move as you hold bitcoin already to gain its value since long time ago.
2654  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: November 28, 2019, 08:09:33 AM
With this result, Napoli is qualified for the final stage, quite surprising for me for the turn of the event they got in the past month.

If Dortmund will lose, Inter can lose too and they can pass winning the last game of the group vs Barcelona.

Group H is a thriller, with these results nothing will change Cheesy


Napoli is 99% qualified for the next round unless if genk beat them away which it's unlikely happened.

The chelsea scenario to qualify is by assuming ajax win over valencia , chelsea will automatically qualified even lost to lille.
The worst scenario that could make chelsea fail is by assuming valencia win over ajax and chelsea lost against lille.
The table would be like this :
Valencia 11pts
Ajax 10pts
Chelsea 8pts

But if valencia win and chelsea also win , the table would be like this :
Valencia 11pts
Chelsea 11pts
Ajax 10pts

Chelsea shall not lost , otherwise they are out regardless the ajax vs valencia result as chelsea lost the head to head to valencia.
2655  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why would one pay $7K for Bitcoin if he/she can get the same thing for $0.001? on: November 27, 2019, 09:20:39 AM
Imagine you could buy some gold, or some tin. One is more expensive, why do you go for that one instead of the cheap one?
Its got to do with the properties of the more expensive one, which is why it commands that price.
Other coins coins try to imitate or replicate bitcoin, but they do not have the same properties, hence they are worth less.

Bitcoin is over priced and over hyped, and the majority of the world's dummies are holding now.
There are not enough new dummies to keep the price up and the tether scam is failing, so expect prices to continue on a downward spiral from now on, with the occasional dead cat bounce to keep the dummies holding while the price crashes below profitability and eventually chain death.  Cool

You guys ... khaos77 and antikvark I think posted in the wrong forum, it must be antibitcointalk.org or something lol you'll get more mocking statements below coming quick with all of your interesting thoughts and point of view regarding bitcoin Grin.
This is all about value isn't it?
People find bitcoin valuable with its utility as a digital money that worldwide acceptance borderless.
And as time goes by the ecosystem itself grow faster , gained popularity and well known wide within 10 years makes more people holding bitcoin without selling it has been created the value of bitcoin itself!
2656  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: November 27, 2019, 08:36:05 AM
He is too old and I wonder why City hasn't found his substitute yet.
He is a great player and a lot of teams would want to have him on their first team but he needs to get less time in the games.

It is not easy to substitute the best players in the game. They wouldn't be the best if there were a bunch of others that could just take their position. That being said, City has Jesus on that position and if he is good enough to be first choice for Brazil national team he is certainly good enough to cover for Aguero in few matches.
There's a huge potential in gabriel jesus as he is still young pep just trying to give more times without sacrificing to end aguero's career early and this is a great time for him to prove that he is ready to play in the line up or alongside aguero at once.
Aguero is here to stay as Manchester city legend. He is 31 years now , golden age passed away. As everyone being said above that 2 more years maybe to be productive scoring goals for Manchester city I would tend to agree though, his contract also end in 2021.
2657  Economy / Speculation / Re: It's a BUY flag on: November 27, 2019, 06:09:44 AM
Liver punch! Yeah!
Buy more.

Price is cheaper. Why not? Buy now. There is always a chance that this could be the cheapest that it could be. We don't really know when the pump will happen but I know that it will.
Well, regrets do come at the end. We won't feel it unless it will happen first.
Better not be in that moment or I am going to wreck my computer in madness.  Grin
The fact that the first principle when it comes to bitcoin investment is ... keep buying no matter it gets dropped to the lowest value in 1 year like $3,000 that's a blessing for you! I never feel regret in my life by buying bitcoin even if you bought it at all time high like $20,000! You'll get your profit in the long term as you continue buying more when it gets lower and lower .

You'll still in green line! Believe me , let's take an example:

You bought 0.1 bitcoin worth $2,000 @20,000
Buy more 0.2 bitcoin worth $2,000 @10,000
Buy more 0.5 bitcoin worth $3,500 @7,000
Buy more 1 bitcoin worth $6,500 @6,500

Total invested $14,000 , total bitcoin you have 1.8 bitcoin.

Once it bounce back to $10,000 , your bitcoin worth $18,000 it's +$4,000.
Once it bounce back to $20,000 , your bitcoin worth $36,000 it's +$22,000
Once it hits the new all time high at $100,000 , your bitcoin worth $180,000 it's +$16,600

Thoughts?

It's good analysis but only fit for person who has a lot of patience. We are all here because of the fast growth of BTC price since the beginning and most new BTC holders wants a quick bucks. But your logic is really the only way to regain loss and have profit if you are willing to wait.
Willing to wait and a good money management, it's useless when you have a lot of cash but then you are sucks managing your money , well brace yourself to busted it all , I have seen a lot of times when a guy with poor mindset poor skills but has a rich family starting his business, starting his investment with crazy amount of money pouring in it but the result is nothing.
That's the first mistake , greedy won't take you anywhere. You need to stay calm even in your worst moments, the good days will come along with your efforts compounding more coins in your bags.
That's it.
2658  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Hodler, you motherfucker. on: November 27, 2019, 05:27:39 AM

Just because you do checking the price constantly once a week or so , doesn't mean you'll set your buy or sell position.
You could be just curious whether are you there yet reaching your investment target

So you expect to reach your investment target in a week or so, right?

Well, I actually don't mean that you should sell or buy every time you look at the charts, but it still seems to me a bit counterintuitive to check prices now and then if you intend to keep your coins for years. If you do, then seeing the price crash may make you nervous and anxious about the future of your investments up to a point where your faith gives in suddenly, and you sell at a loss. This is a real-life scenario with the implication being that you'd better not check the prices "just out of curiosity" or "for fun"
Not really, I'm not saying that way. The target could be limitless ( you know each person , each investor has their own approach so I can't define this 'target' exactly, could always different )
Ouu yeah then if you can't resist to sell when seeing the market crash.. I think you are not what I call a hodler Grin .
There's no harm to look at the charts sometimes to test how strong your faith... rather than forget it for years without following any progress in it , sounds like a bit gambling style Huh
2659  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: November 27, 2019, 04:29:57 AM
I have no doubt Mourinho will do his magic from now on , I'm planning to make Tottenham parlay along with real Madrid and juventus all to win a their own home , the odds quite decent @8.8 Grin .

Hm, quite an interesting combination. I might steal this one from you Grin

That was close! Who else hates mbappe and sarabia for scoring a pair of goals in just 2 minutes! I'll be damned!

There's a little bit surprising game on Tottenham as they left behind 0-2 at the first 20 minutes but looks like Mourinho got them all ... having a champion mentality to make that comeback never been easy unless you are as classy as klopp or Mourinho himself.
Another surprising result that Manchester city got draw, I can feel you guys who put a lot of money there for such a very low odds and get a very disappointing result, classic football.
2660  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Hodler, you motherfucker. on: November 26, 2019, 02:38:05 PM
What I mean is that most trader spend their times monitoring the price for hours like 20 hours a day and 4 hours sleep in extreme way or let's say continuously monitoring the market 14 hours with less rest in it, that's the way people can re buy in the right time

But that explanation undermines your previous point

No. It's not.


If you are looking into the market once or twice a week, you may see where the ship sails, and thus choose your entry and exit points (mostly, the latter).  Indeed, if you make a couple trades a week, this won't make you into a day trader (though opinions may vary), but that still makes you a trader, not a 100% holder

Technically, it is exactly the idea behind "hodling", i.e. to forget about your cryptocurrency investments for a few years (the longer the better). You can see such advices springing up here and here of the forum, especially when someone was unlucky to buy at or near the top. To sum it up, a hodler is essentially a failed trader
Just because you do checking the price constantly once a week or so , doesn't mean you'll set your buy or sell position.
You could be just curious whether are you there yet reaching your investment target.
Well if you define hodler like that... I assume it's just the matter of perspective.
I do define hodler as those people who believe in bitcoin no matter the price fall to the ground ( they believe the time to recover will come and they keep hodling) or no matter the price moving up high to the moon ( they believe the time to break another all time high will still coming , they have seen it but continue hodling )

That's all.
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