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2641  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Give Him a loan Or Partner With Him on: September 05, 2023, 05:42:56 AM
What's your best course of action in this scenario?
after you say if he is very rich and loses at horse races loses all his wealth I will only choose the option not to lend money to him because it is clear from the start he is a rich man who can lose all his money and if you give loans to him he will definitely lose too money when defeat comes take everything. on the one hand, this effort is not that we are evil to friends not to give loans, but this effort can prevent them from losing too much money to gamble.

but if he has a job or an established business I think its fine to give him a loan because he has the income from his business to be able to repay the loan.
2642  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: September 05, 2023, 05:24:44 AM

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The PSG era of Luis Enrique has just begun, let's see how far they can prove themselves as a formidable club in Ligue 1 and the Champions League.
TBH, even though I'm not too sure about Enrique but just trying to be sure and want to see how far Enrique can contribute a good strategy for PSG to get a title in league 1 and of course the UCL looks too early but all nothing is impossible during the entire PSG players have the passion to be able to win a title in the UCL I'm sure they can get it unless they only rely on a few players like Mbappe. because if you only rely on one player it will be very difficult, even though the UCL requires a really solid team that can work together strongly to unite good chemistry to maintain victory until the final round.

don't expect more but just want to see PSG perform well in league 1 even though they also have to focus on the UCL which will soon be held in the preliminary round.
2643  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: September 05, 2023, 04:41:32 AM
Several clubs in the Saudi League are now much stronger than other clubs, two notable clubs being Al-Nassr and Al Hilal. We have no doubts about these two clubs in terms of strength. Al-Nassr, Al Hilal are undoubtedly two very strong clubs but although Al Hilal has started well this season, Al-Nassr has yet to start well. Al Hilal is currently at the number one position in the points table but Al-Nassr is still at the number six position in the points table which means there are five teams above Al-Nassr so far. We always expect good performances from Al-Nassr as the team has world class stars who have conquered Europe once so it is natural that the expectations will be high from them.
this is all because there are European star players in the line up between the two teams and actually it is unfair to say that the two teams are very strong just because there are European star players but we must not forget Al Ittihad, Al Ahli and several other big teams that exist. in this SPL, even though they do not have star European players, they are able to perform consistently and can win in several matches until the last match they managed to appear strong to maintain points in the SPL standings and we should not be too ambitious in saying a team can be strong or be better. Its big because there are European players, but I would rather admit that the team is perfect when it competes consistently without European players and uses real players from Saudi Arabia.
2644  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 05, 2023, 03:51:41 AM
La Liga is one of Europe's most challenging recommended leagues. They have the most fiercely competitive clubs that are always prepared to deliver us the best they have. These two outstanding clubs completely dominate La Liga. They are obviously Real Madrid and Barcelona. They are the only ones that have exerted total dominance throughout the previous decades, and it sometimes appears that other clubs are not doing everything they can to follow in the footsteps of these elite clubs. Atletico Madrid is the only club that is doing everything they can to improve their grade level.
these two big teams have always been the biggest in La Liga and have always dominated this league from several seasons ago and for Atletico Madrid they will always be a challenger to Barcelona and Real Madrid who have tried to continue to be like these 2 big teams and I admit that like Barcelona, even though this team does not have star players, it can always get a top 3 ranking and this year Barcelona situation, which is worse than last season, is trying to continue to improve the quality of its performance with the existing players. different from Real Madrid, who currently still have reliable players from recruiting new Bellingham players who have made a difference for Real Madrid.

and I see Girona in the standings being the new challenger this season but not sure whether to stay until the end of the season to challenge Barcelona and Real Madrid because for sure Atletico Madrid will continue to improve their form.
2645  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: September 04, 2023, 11:28:35 AM
I'm dizzy with the Saudi Arabian teams. They are in turmoil during the transfer season and are taking away a lot of players from European clubs. With trends in the next few years. Are European football teams still strong? When the Saudi Arabian National Championship continuously recruited stars from European teams. Do they have enough money to do it? Will their league surpass the top European leagues? Too many questions about them.
this effort really creates pros and cons between the european league and the SPL when large transfers are made to get european players to increase the development of football in the SPL so that it is known as one of the biggest football games in the world after Europe. I know for sure that there will be a lot of people who will disagree with the steps taken by Saudi Arabia, but nevertheless this is mutually beneficial when players who are not well respected in Europe can still be used in Saudi Arabia to take their star names, for example, like Neymar, who is almost old and has an injury that hasn't healed yet, but Saudi Arabia wants to buy it, while in Europe its very rare that other teams want to buy it, and I think that almost all of the players who were successfully recruited by the Saudi arabian team are over 30 years old, which means their performance is not very stable in Europe.
and what I know is that the European football league will always be known as big league in the world because it has been around for a long time with performance of the players in it who are really reliable and built from the team itself and Saudi Arabia instead of getting old players from Europe but just like buying the name of the star player.

I fully support @hd49728 statement that Saudi Arabia should, from now on, have an academy to recruit new players with the talent developed at the academy so it does not rely too much on players from Europe and also with this Saudi Arabia can also get reliable players from its own academy
2646  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 04, 2023, 11:04:56 AM
Real Madrid should be thankful to Getafe's goalkeeper for their win. Bellingham was simply in the right place at the right time.
I really don't know how Real will be able to compete against Barca for the La Liga trophy in this season. Real is having difficulties scoring goals against teams that aren't very strong. Barca scored 4 goals against Villareal, but they have troubles in defense and allowed the yellow team to score three goals. I'm not impressed by Lewandowski's performance. He scored the winning goal, but that was a pretty easy goal.
the score created by Bellingham was very dramatic in the last minute after a hard kick was taken by Lucas Vazquez and Getafe goalkeeper David Soria failed to catch the ball and Bellingham quickly took the opportunity to steal the ball and produce a tense score that ended in a dramatic victory.

Real Madrid will always be a strong challenger to Barcelona and vice versa Barcelona will be a challenger to Real Madrid to get the La Liga title every season and for this season I can not say for sure who deserves the title this season and all I know are these two big teams will continue to fight each other for the La Liga title with tight competition. Its just that currently Barcelona is having a little problem with their players whose performance is slightly declining but Xavi knows how to remain consistent in the upcoming matches and I think if Real Madrid has to focus again on the UCL, this is Barcelona opportunity to take the opportunity to get even more points. when Madrid tries to focus its players to appear strong in the UCL.
2647  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: September 04, 2023, 10:26:02 AM
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maybe he forgot to post the reply yesterday or he is in a different time zone than us Roll Eyes

In the first half the game was more or less equal, but after Volland's red card, it became clear that Leipzig was in full control of the game. Before this match, Union Berlin played very well and scored a lot, however, Leipzig also started the season very confidently and so far only lost to Bayer. So far, Bayer and Leipzig seem to me to be teams that can compete with Bayern if nothing changes further.
it is very surprising when the overall performance of these two teams for me Union Berlin looks better than Leipzig but this is not about the previous season matches to be more precise about the performance of this season that Union has more opportunities in terms of performance and also as a host certainly a bigger chance but its a shame after Volland got a red card things turned very bad only appearing with 10 players and Union Berlin defense became bad which finally always conceded in the second half.

if only Union Berlin did not make a mistake and still played with 11 players I think to defend or score a little bit better because how is it possible to play with 10 players you have to have a high performance while Leipzig also have a good strategy in this match so the win is deserved for them get it.
2648  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Typical scenario when you are losing on: September 04, 2023, 09:19:30 AM
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The more you understand gambling, the more you win.
Actually you're correct in the first line, but the second and third line are bullshit.bounty.
I agree with the line "The more you understand gambling, the more you win" based on my point of view. It is common knowledge that the gambling machines are set to favor the house, either in the short or long term. If gamblers understand this especially if they are losing, they can actually win against their desire to pursue nothing but fun.
unfortunately, most of us fail to understand how gambling works and we always mislead ourselves when we lose control when defeat comes, it triggers our adrenaline and we always keep betting with the hope of a return. TBH, I fully support the word but only a small percentage of gamblers today can really understand how gambling works and on the one hand if they can understand how gambling works I think they really will win over themselves not to make large amounts of bets only for uncertain wins and in this scenario it would not hurt to stop for a while not betting take the time to think about the truth about gambling and how to quit gambling activity in large numbers.
2649  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Using Statistical Data to Win Sports Betting Picks on: September 04, 2023, 08:58:10 AM
statistical data may or may not be correct. many times, most people betting only look at statistical data without analyzing the actual conditions and situations in a team and there are many examples that have occurred when statistical data does not work well when the team looks very superior in the previous match or in the past. but losing in future matches and recently I have seen a lot of people betting on sports who refer to statistical data as analysis for betting. but at least this statistical data can provide a reference or consideration for carrying out further analysis and is not to be used as a determinant of a prediction.
2650  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What does it take to play casino? on: September 04, 2023, 08:49:24 AM
I once tried using The Martingale strategy in a slot game. At first it worked, but after playing for a long time the strategy didn't work, I doubled the bet many times but the freespin bonus results were very bad. This method makes my money run out quickly. Another weakness is that the required balance is quite large, I often run out of balance when raising bets, and bonuses with good results appear when my balance is almost used up.

Any suggestions, which games are suitable for using the Martingale strategy?
Martingale is a strategy that can busted your funds fast. In playing slots you need a decent capital if you're going to use this strategy that's why I don't play slots often. Every time I gamble, my first choice to play is live baccarat, chances to win compared to other luck based games are somehow high (but it's not guaranteed). I also tried the martingale strategy in this game, I can't say it's suitable or working but for me if you're a risk taker then this game is for you. Nevertheless, regardless what games you play, if you're not lucky, then any strategy can't help you to win.
martingale strategy will be very bad in the long run unless you have an unlimited budget. In the past, I often used this strategy in roulette games and at first the results were satisfactory, but because we as greedy humans, as time went by, losses happened in succession and the funds I had could not participate in the game anymore, so I had to accept defeat after winning a little big at roulette.

but I want to ask @komisariatku, is not using the martingale strategy in slot games really very bad? I mean playing slot without using the martingale strategy will drain your balance very quickly and I can not imagine how you can quickly run out of your budget when the RTP is not what you expected.
2651  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 04, 2023, 08:03:29 AM
If several European clubs cannot afford to pay salaries that are too large then the Saudi Arabian League can make it happen, but rumors about Sergio Ramos are not very widespread in this League even though several clubs there have also expressed interest. Maybe in the next few weeks we will hear more about Sergio Ramos and I believe he is more likely to move to Saudi Arabia than Sevilla.
Old super star players have a high ego, no one will admit if their performance are declining due to get older and keep demanding high salary. There's no league willing to pay high salary for a popular player without good performance except Saudi Professional League.

So their options are either retire or joining Saudi Arabia, this can't be denied.
that is the phenomenon we are currently seeing. many European players no longer have many European teams who want them and eventually have to go to the SPL even with high fees.
Regarding Sergio Ramos, rumors are still circulating and there has been no final decision yet. I think he can go to Sevilla and end his career there. it wasn't a difficult decision if he wasn't thinking about the money from the SPL.
Even Messi, who finally chose to go to MLS, wasn't because of money either. some players think of the calm and comfort of playing at the end of their career. many achievements have been obtained by big players, and at the end of their career, they shouldn't think too much about it.
for me, as long as the Saudi Arabian team buys European players whose players are already old or do not have a good contribution in Europe, I do not think that a problem, but this is just my opinion because what I know is that most of the players who have been bought from the transfer market are nearing their age. old so his contribution to european teams has decreased somewhat as I said in another thread, maybe in Europe neymar does not want anyone to buy him because of the injury he suffered and maybe if there is a team that wants to buy him it will be at cheap price. so I think its not about being selfish but this star player knows what his future will be like when circumstances put pressure on him.
2652  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: September 04, 2023, 07:36:18 AM
PSG went berserk, beating Lyon in the first half with a score of 0-4. Playing away doesn't make PSG weak, because in reality Lyon can't do much to stop PSG movement. It's really unfortunate, because basically Lyon is also in a bad performance at this moment because they have played three matches but Lyon didn't get a win at all. Therefore, it would not be strange if PSG were able to beat Lyon in this match, because basically PSG is the one who has improved their performance in every match, and then against Lyon which is in a slump. So of course, PSG can take advantage of the bad conditions experienced by Lyon to win big in this away match.
everything PSG did in yesterday match was amazing when they were left behind by points from Monaco who currently dominate the top position in the league 1 standings and it is quite convincing that betting on PSG was definitely very profitable yesterday. on the one hand, PSG opponent is not a strong team like Lyon, which has never won. winning at all since the start of the season and this gives PSG the opportunity to get more scores to catch up with Monaco points and I think this is like a strong threat to Monaco which is currently in very good condition so that while it is above PSG.

if PSG continues to perform consistently like yesterday match Im sure at the end of the season PSG will still hold the league 1 title even though later in the UCL PSG will fail again but at least the league 1 title is more than enough but if indeed Mbappe is able to maximize his performance in the UCL there is little chance of pass to the next round.
2653  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 04, 2023, 07:01:30 AM
I am also one of the people who is not surprised by Napoli's defeat because we know that Lazio is highly motivated to win its first win after losing twice before. Lazio came as a guest regardless of their opponent being Napoli and this was a challenge for Lazio by beating the Scudetto winner last season. Lazio's new recruit this season was the key to the club's victory with the second goal he scored and it is true that most people say Daichi Kamada is one of the underrated midfielders this season who is a free agent. Of course Napoli will not be sad just by this defeat and they will come back next week to target 3 points.
At least Napoli tried several times to kick at goal and put pressure on Lazio, but in the end Lazio still won with a goal shot in the last minute, which was obtained by Daichi Kamada.I see that Napoli's current strength has also decreased because last season Napoli managed to take first place quite quickly. Hopefully Napoli can regain first place this season.
do not be too quick to speculate from yesterday match because this may only be temporary, but while Napoli itill adapting to its new players, on the one hand, we should not just look at yesterday match, but look at  performance when winning previous match that Napoli managed to get, do we still say that the performance napoli down a bit?
we all know that Osimhen, key player for Napoli, is still fighting for the title this season, even though he does not always score successfully, but Osimhen effort to score are very clear that osimhen efforts and other players still looking for best strategy.

and on the one hand, Lazio seems to have been lucky when the draw turned into a win for Lazio and after all, Lazio is indeed one of strong team that has performance on par with Napoli so its only natural that napoli lost yesterday match but its just a shame to have accepted Napoli were defeated at home.
2654  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 04, 2023, 06:26:27 AM
Liverpool has shown quite good progress this season. They continued to achieve wins and victories and today Liverpool beat Aston Villa at Anfield stadium. Statistically Liverpool played quite impressively by dominating possession of the ball and also firing lots of shots. I think Liverpool has wide open hopes of continuing to compete at the top if they are able to maintain their best performance.

Apart from that, Manchester United again failed to get full points when they visited the Emirates Stadium because they were unable to balance the game played by Arsenal in this match. This failure was a big disappointment for Red Devils fans because Erik Ten Hag had not succeeded in fixing several weaknesses in the Red Devils squad.
a good improvement for Liverpool in every match they performed almost perfectly without being defeated and in yesterday match they managed to win again and I think this is all thanks to coach Klopp who has a reliable strategy in every match and of course also the presence of key players like Mohamed Salah. this is the reason Klopp still retains this player because he is very influential for Liverpool, who can always score in every match.

Im not sure if Ten Hag this season was able to have an impact on Man United performance or was it even worse than last season and failed again to get to its former glory there is a lot of criticism directed at Ten Hag at the moment when he always fails to contribute to his players and maybe its too early to say this but I really doubt MU this season.
2655  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be play with care on: September 03, 2023, 09:05:38 PM
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While difficult it is important to just learn to do it, this is similar to what happens when you are in an argument with someone, it is easy to keep saying things back and forth to that person but you are not going to resolve anything when both of you are mad and are shouting, at some point the best thing you can do is simply to walk away, let both of you to calm down, then you can engage each other again a little bit later and finally you can have a constructive discussion about what happened and what created that argument on the first place.
yep, everything will definitely be fine as long as you want to learn for the good in future, such as when gambling, but when we get a losing streak, we always remember our promise to ourselves not to be careless in chasing losses or winnings from gambling. so that we always remember and learn to restrain ourselves from doing these bad things, such as using gambling carefully and some people have their own way of controlling themselves using gambling as they are and even myself, when I experienced losing streak, chose to leave my cell phone or PC away. to take food and leave house to joke with the children or wife so they do not remember bad things that happened in gambling.

its just about whether desire is strong or not.
2656  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Possible measures to stop online gambling addiction. on: September 03, 2023, 08:42:44 PM
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But, if under different circumstances the gambler has no family, then how will he recover and be free from addiction?
Of course this also depends on how good the neighborhood people are. and the people in his circle are also the most important and determine whether he can change or not. Self-control is the first thing you need to realize to make him stop gambling too often. good steps also need to be taken to change his mindset, such as coming to a psychologist to ask what is happening to him and reveal that he cannot be separated from gambling.
I have the same thoughts as you but only now I have the answer. in this problem I will look more at the friends around him whether they care about the condition of his friend who is addicted to gambling and loses a lot of money every day and I am sure of the many friends who are beside him surely some will really care about his addictive behavior only if a friend wants to cure his addiction, it will be a little difficult to give advice or take him to a rehabilitation center because gambling addicts always feel fine and if that happens to a gambling addict who realizes he wants to quit gambling it will be very easy for his friend to provide help to cure his addiction .

I fully support what you have said about how much the community cares about the addict but usually in some countries that prohibit gambling it will be very difficult to find people around who help gambling addicts to recover because the people around think if it is their own fault and go back to what What I said at the beginning is that only friends can help when you do not have family.
2657  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: September 03, 2023, 08:27:50 PM
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I call those people gifted and passionate. When they succeed in a particular field, "addiction" will no longer suit them. For example, we often gamble, and people say we are addicted. But still gambling regularly and adding winning titles and prizes in gambling competitions, the words to describe us would be completely different.
Another more realistic example. If you gamble, the win will be yours. Then your wife will say you're great. Conversely, if you always lose, your wife will call you an addict.
I like your realistic thinking which means its all about money even wife would also say professional gamblers are not addicts when it comes to big wins. Roll Eyes

a gambling addict who has other talents such as developing a business or even developing his gambling talent to take part in gambling competitions to win prizes so that this talent will cover his addiction. but I would agree more if this addict has a healthy mind even though it is very difficult but if the will is big they will definitely be able to get through it, such as opening any business to get bigger results than in gambling.
2658  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Big is the online gambling industry today? on: September 03, 2023, 02:29:41 PM
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The gambling industry always the unique one because it deal with the players from various countries.Some times you can earn some money from the gambling,some times you can’t win based on the luck.The certain percentage of the participants will win,most of them won’t get the winning chance.The winning chance was only favour the small portion of the people based on their luck.Some people will use the gambling as their full time business and do the multiple bet in the same game.They use huge money as compared to other people,because their view to the gambling was different one.Many local gambling site was their,but not all the site was legit one.You need to check the exact one which is legit and don’t scam our deposit money.
in the development of the gambling business and the number is increasing, of course there will be several scam gambling sites to take advantage of this development opportunity and we must be responsible for being able to distinguish between legitimate sites and scam gambling sites, not only local gambling sites but also many crypto gambling sites. scam sites so we must always be careful and do research before making a deposit to the gambling site.

In this case, we learn another lesson that as the gambling business develops, there are always scam gambling sites that will take advantage of this situation to make a profit and it is better to always gamble on our favorite sites that we have used for betting for a long time and do not be tempted by any bonuses if this site is indicated scam.
2659  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 03, 2023, 10:55:04 AM
Even though Unai Emery is a great manager who is capable of producing surprising result against big teams sometimes, but after I saw the list of injuries players for Aston Villa currently, I guess it would be very difficult for Aston Villa to gain any points when they play against Liverpool at the stadium of Anfield. I think there is a high chance for Liverpool to beat Aston Villa in front of their home fans today.
Even if Aston villa had no injured player, I still personally think that they are too small a team to beat Liverpool, I know they indeed have a lot of great players with really great talent and so, but still, Liverpool is a better and stronger team, and I don't think Aston villa have any chance of ever beating them, except on occasions that Liverpool for some reason or the other loss their form, or something wrong with the team.

Anyways, a bit late here but congratulations to Manchester city for beating Fullham 5 goals to 1 goal in their yesterday's game, I did know that Manchester city would win the match but I wasn't expecting them to have such an exceptional performance, to turn tune of scoring 4 goals more after Fullham equalized their first goal, an incredible win there .
logically Liverpool is far superior to the opportunity to win bigger matches when playing at home, even at the start of this season Liverpool have never been beaten by any team in the EPL and even though Aston Villa is only like a small team but in my opinion it deserves praise in terms of defense quite good, it just that the attack line is a little weak and although not too strong, Aston villa has been able to survive in the EPL, avoiding the relegation zone since the 2019-2020 season until this season, after being promoted again to the EPL, Aston Villa was able to maintain its position to avoid relegation. but thats all just limited to our speculation and for victory logically still liverpool will be the winner.

In yesterday match Haaland was barely able to score but was lucky to kick the ball on target scoring 1 score and currently it seems like Haaland performance is not like the previous season he looks weak and does not have the ability to score or thats just my opinion.
2660  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: September 03, 2023, 09:56:21 AM
I guess nobody could ever expect to see Al Fateh winning the game against Al Ahli in the game today after all the money Al Ahli spent this summer and the players they bought, however, it's too soon to judge Al Ahli and the players they bought because we know these players need some time. but personally, I could never predict this result.
 
 
Even without those new star players from Europe, Al Ahli were already stronger than Al Fateh so with those star players, they surprisingly got this very big defeat. It's unbelievable and Al Ahli let Al Fateh scored goals very easily.

After scoring a leading goal, Al Ahli quickly let Al Fateh to have an equalizer in the first half. After that, their nightmare began in the second half as they got some more conceded goals and ended the match with a shock defeat.

The match is exciting as many opportunities were created by both clubs and even Al Ahli had some chances to score more goals too.
according to the observations that I have seen, it seems that the match between Al Ahli and Al Fateh is only about the formations used by these two teams and I do not need to explain, we can all see the statistics of the formations of these two teams. It is clear that Al Fateh has a really strong defensive force, even Al Ahli players will have difficulty scoring against Al Fateh while their defensive line is really very strong and the reason Al Ahli weakness is always conceding in the second half is because Al Ahli ambitions are too high and they try to break through Al Fateh defense but unfortunately Al Ahli defense is too strong. following the ambition to help score the score so that a lot of carelessness occurred in the second half. maybe many are disappointed with Al Ahli performance, but after all, there are always surprises in football.
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