Sorry to read this. I can't believe you were in the process of giving them another $3000.  I have cross posted it to the "Scam Accusation" thread that I started against BitClub Network recently, hopefully it might save anyone else getting ripped by these assholes. Did you use a referral to sign up originally? If so, what/who? If you have anything from your contact with them, any details, addresses etc. that you think may prove of assistance in fucking them up, please share it here.. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1152263.msg12187896#new |
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Cross posted from here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1128258.0"...send all the Bitcoin back to us and we will re-activate your account and pretend this didn't happen."What legit business would say that to a client they accused of stealing 20 BTC from them?? well, I was wrong the bastards are SCAMERS! Do not spend with them
for the past few days I have not have access to my Bitclub Network account so I send in a support e-mail.
Subject: HI unable to log in to my account
AND WAS ABLE TO LOG IN ON SATURDAY BUT NOW I CAN NOT.
I TRIED TO RESET MY PASSWORD BUT I GET THIS MESSAGE
Data entered is not valid.
PLEASE ADVISE,
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BitClub Network
Aug 17 (2 days ago)
to me
Your account has been disabled!
You will receive an additional email in the next few days with all the
details, but you will no longer have access to BitClub Network.
We have found clear evidence of you attempting to exploit our invoicing
system and your accounts have all been flagged. We strongly recommend you
return any stolen bitcoin that you took from your actions in creating
these invoices to avoid further action.
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Me:
What? All the bitcoin I used was purchased from my Circle Account that I have linked to my bank account. How could I have exploited your invoice system? I can show all transactions and prove that the Bitcoin used is not stolen. Please advise
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BCN:
You were not paying with Bitcoin inside your wallet and this is the
problem, instead you were creating invoices with negative amounts and
using your credit wallet to pay for them. This was a bug that you
exploited and we have since fixed.
You probably found this by accident while trying to add credits to your
main account (lerdbaron). However, after this worked you proceeded to open
two additional accounts (tomass) and (hyepman) and have been creating fake
invoices over the past two days.
No reason to deny any of this because we can easily track the IP address
used to access each of these accounts back to you.
In total you have stolen 19.57 Bitcoin spread out over these 3 accounts
and we are 100% certain about this due to some very high end security
tracking that we have in place.
So, you have two choices...
You can either send all the Bitcoin back to us and we will re-activate
your account and pretend this didn't happen. We will keep a very close eye
on your activity but you will be given full access to your main account
Or two, you can deny this and your accounts will be terminated and we will
file a report to the authorities with the information we have to try and
collect the stolen Bitcoin. Thanks to the transparency of bitcoin there is
no denying this one.
So your choice... We hope you make the right one!
Send 19.57 Bitcoin to - 1E3cXemSthD5ykLTe7Lzj2VEqXkjkqiCxJ
Or your account will be terminated and we will begin the collection process.
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Me:
what are you talking about? I only have one account and only use lerdbaron. And have sent bitcoin using the same wallet, and have not taken the 19 btc you claim out. I was adding btc to my account to get up to $3500.00 and have enough for shares in all plans. So are you trying to steel my btc? If so I will have no choice but to report you to the Authorities in my state. Please restore my account or return my initial btc.
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BitClub Network
1:39 PM (22 hours ago)
to me
After further review your account is being terminated.
As you can see I was completely wrong about Bitclub Network I am 100% convinced that it is a SACAM!
Have sent an e-mail to the FBI Cyber Crimes division I don`t know how much if any btc I will be able to get back.
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They must have them on a different rotation somehow, the rapist is still listed in that group of 'satisfied investors' when I load it up.
Quite likely, there are various different addresses which are run by MLMer's high up the food chain, you'll see at the bottom of the page which member is "sponsoring" the version you are looking at. On this page he's vanished completely, (only three dots representing "Members who love us") One huge red flag for anyone undecided is that you cannot sign up for the BitClub Network without a referral, just as a customer off the street, so to speak. You MUST use a referral page, otherwise you get this:-  Think about that. If you've read that absurdly complicated page of their referral commission structure, you won't be surprised to learn that over 30% of all new 'investment' goes solely on maintaining the referral payments. https://bitclubnetwork.com/compensation.htmlQ: Why would a legitimate company only take investments through third parties at a cost of 30+% commission, rather than allow direct investment and receive 100% of the money? A: They wouldn't. |
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I know it only seems like a small thing, these false pictures and non existent customers: "Hey, everyone does it, it's just marketing, doesn't mean anything!" but I don't see it like that. Once someone is established as a liar, then exactly how much of what else that they say can be trusted? I know people who work in boiler room scams, confidence tricks and the MLM industry: in order to do the job properly they have to have the right psychological approach to the clients victims. In order to avoid any compassion or sympathy as they hassle people night and day to part with whatever money they have in order to hit their targets, they effectively dehumanise the marks, treat them with contempt and laugh at them. Some actually place bets on how absurd a pitch they can make and still be successful. This is where the picture of the rapist/client comes in. It's reasonable to assume that whoever used that picture of Ansari and gave him the ID of a fictional Brazilian client of BitClub Network, knew where the picture came from and who he was, what crime he had committed. This is the contempt I refer to, "Hey, these people are so fucking stupid, let's show them a picture of a rapist and say he's a client, I bet they don't even fucking notice!" But someone's had their ass kicked, and the picture's been changed. A real pro job they've made of it too....  |
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Or owns a handful of miners they can video and then rents a load of hash-power to produce enough blocks to support their claims while actually running the usual referral-scheme-based fractional-mining/ponzi.
Yeah, given all the red flags and warning signs your scheme is spitting out by the shed-load, I'm going with my theory over your claim.
How much money do you think one would have to spend to rent enough hash power to mine 20 blocks in 10 days?? These arguments hold no weight. Documentation beats conversation... I think you have plenty of money, other people's, and are prepared to spend it to establish a bona fide looking cover for the MLM scam which you are running. Way back last year, the seed money was pouring in from MLM/Ponzi early birds, eager to get in on the ground level of a huge, professionally run scam like this. http://patrickpretty.com/2014/11/18/bitclub-network-now-wants-500-new-suckers-participants-exhorted-to-be-patient-because-purported-mining-community-venture-is-like-building-a-home-made-space-ship-to-explore-outer-space/500 x $3,599....that's nearly $2 million just there, plenty enough to buy the 2+ P/hs that you claim somewhere in your sales blurb and mine over 20 BTC a day, anyone with the finance could do it. So what? The thing is, you will just keep selling and selling and selling shares in this, like some sort of Mel Brooks musical, for the real reason for setting it up: a cover for a huge MLM scam. New 'investor' money will just migrate straight to the top of the pyramid as it's supposed to in schemes like this, and then the marks will sit patiently for the next three years, hoping to get their money back. When even the dust payments you are making (0.002 BTC per day on $500) towards your 1000 day roi get too much for you, the lucky 'investors' will just get given some useless shitcoin and the scam will be complete. The way you keep insisting, "We are mining so we must be legit" reminds me of another cloudmining scam, Cloudmining.website. Their mantra is similar, "Look, we've paid out for the last few months, we must be legit" and then they show a meaningless graphic to prove it. Just like you and your pie chart. TL:DR Your "documentation" proves nothing about the likelihood of your 'investors' getting paid. Your millon dollars worth of seed money for a mining front was well spent from a scamming point of view, especially if it helps your networking parasites drag in suckers in the numbers that your previous schemes have. |
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tmfp, I would agree with you but according to the BitClub Network site....
BitClub Network new mining operation in Reykjavik Iceland.
<snip> blurb
If you would like to see this facility please contact us, we are allowing certain members exclusive access to tour this facility. You must be a Pro Builder or higher to be considered and in the near future we will even have special offers for Master Builders to get an all expense paid trip (details inside Member's Area).
So, if this is true some time in the future some people who have shares and meet the requirements will be traveling to see the mining facility.
Sure, but my point is that there is not necessarily any connection between the ~2 Ph/s that they are claiming to have, and the value of contracts that they are selling. Regarding qualification for visits to Iceland, this is when you see that the real focus of this operation is referral selling, not mining. To be a "Pro Builder" and get to see a few humming boxes, you have to be a pretty hard seller i.e. $10,000 per month, have 30 in your downline and a total of $50,000 in total enrollment. This is for MLM pro's, not miners, to have a quick look at the Goose that's laying the Golden Eggs. |
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Bit Protect realize the securities in the presence of the greatest index indicator that keeps their profitability highly.
The trade system of our company passes in the automated mode,
we have the special system products developed by our programmers
allowing reliably and in the shortest possible time
to realize all inquiries and wishes of our investors.
That's fucking poetry, that is. |
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Hopefully nobody has fallen for this scam.
On the contrary, I should think many hundreds of people have people have drunk the MLM Kool Aid and parted with lump sums under varying degrees of pressure and remorseless salesmanship. Look through the presentations and webinars and referral targets on the BCN websites: this is what MLM does, it takes a credible idea and remorselessly hypes it up and up to unsuspecting civilians who know nothing about the core subject. This type of marketing is done to friends, family or strangers; anyone who can be persuaded to part with money and start the referrals cranking in is fair game to Multi level marketers. These are highly organised, well financed operations undertaken by serial scam promoters and relentlessly pushed by their marketing foot soldiers, all dreaming of getting to the top of the pyramid and milking it before it collapses under its own weight. |
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Oh, surprise, surprise, our totally legitimate friends at BCN seem to have noticed that their happy customers aren't so totally legitimate....  Time for a 1) weasel worded lie about web page designers 2) ad hominem attack 3) "If we're a scam what about the blockchain?" strawman Take your pick.... |
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Yeah, but like most honest, legit, above board cloudminers, they don't want you to only reinvest 30% of the make believe earnings that you didn't really earn anyway, they want you to "re-invest" everything. So, they very kindly make it simple for you. Just dial it up to 100% and watch those magic numbers grow....  Yeah, there's always "exciting stuff" happening 'soon' with these MLM deals....like Clubcoin, let's have a close look at that "exciting stuff" next... |
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BitClub Network claims 1% of the entire Bitcoin mining capacity. BitClub Network are promising 1000% increase in value of their 'memberships' within six months. BitClub Network are promising Bitcoin networked ATM's and Bitcoin debit cards. Wow Great, you say, a real professional cloud mining operation at last! Then you read about the $99 'membership' fee. Then you see the 1000 day roi. Then you read about their "cutting edge referral based pay plan". Then you read about Clubcoin, their PoS marvellous innovation, coming soon. It's all here, have a read https://bitclubnetwork.com/compensation.htmlhttp://behindmlm.com/companies/bitclub-network-review-zeek-ponzi-veterans-at-it-again/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=762075.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1128258.0http://behindmlm.com/companies/bitclub-network-out-of-funds-clubcoin-announced/ Wow, lots of reading, you say, gimme the tl:dr. OK, let's start at the beginning, their website. Take any one of the many many addresses they use, they all lead to this http://bitclub.io/mining/mining That's what we like to see, full of information and testimonials from real life customers! Well, not much information, but look, real life customers! There's Amy from Romania  Who could be Monica from Rome http://jericko.net/index.php/monicaor just be a very pretty, Romanian bitcoin enthusiast who's looking for a boyfriend http://dating-en-relatie.com/Romanian-women.htmlThen there's Mike Jones from California  Who looks a bit like Mike Jones from Cape Town https://plus.google.com/107168767283731452906/aboutAnd the chap in the screenshot above, Victor Diaz from Chaco, Brazil according to BitClub. They even quote him in Spanish (I thought Brazilians spoke Portuguese, but no matter) "Thank you thank you thank you! BitClub has been very good for me. I really need passive income and gave himself for me BitClub"The only problem is that Victor from Brazil, the Bitclub investor, is in fact, Ali Ansari a rapist from India.  I can recently remember at least three "cloudmining investments" companies who used fake pictures of clients or management in their publicity. They all protested that it was an innocent error by a third party. They all turned out to be liars and scammers. This just the tip of the iceberg, much more to follow..... |
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Their site just upped and left, email stopped working.
SCAM confirmed.
But at least they did not claim being hacked, that's a first in crypto..
Don't give them ideas  Yes they have up and left, even removing themselves from social media. The thing I do not understand is why someone would ruin their name. I mean every future job opportunity they would google name. And when they see you were part of a big scam.... you do not get the job. Did the make enough to live off of for life in this one I dont think so? I just don't understand people who do this. What names? John Richard Coleman? There probably is such a person, but he is blissfully unaware that his identity was used to register CloudThink Ltd. in the UK. It was all fake, the miners, the people, the offices, the lot. The only people who can be traced are the shills and ponces who vouched for the scam and took their grubby sats from it. There's a few of them here on BCT, heroes too.  |
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The original Wood Collector was fun because, although he was full of shit, there was a bit of inventiveness and style about him.
You just seem full of shit.
Welcome to *ignore*.
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...it is my opinion that Bitclub Network is actually mining and sharing the btc with all who have shares.
The first part is hard to disagree with, as a pool in their name certainly appears to be mining. The second part however, is a little less certain: because of lack of credible info it's possible that they are fractional mining i.e. selling 'hashrate' over and above what they have and meeting the expected micro payments from new investors' money. The 'P' word. |
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I just wish more people showed exactly what they're getting everyday and also how soon you're able to withdraw into your wallet.
Have you seen this thread? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1128258.0Why do you think they have launched a PoS coin? |
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They stopped paying all accounts last week, even paid. We're all in the same boat.
Hey andre, you probably don't want to talk about it, but you're the first paid CloudThink 'investor' I think that we have come across. What was the reasoning behind trusting them? Were you referred or what? Do you have any addresses or details as an investor which might shine some light should the worst happen? |
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But even more exciting is what we are planning to do over the next 6 months that will increase the value of your membership 10 fold. We touched on this in the last update.
Hold that thought....."increase the value 10 fold in six months." Of course they're legit.  |
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A quick look tells me that is probably the pre CloudThink Rikkie. They bought the account and the Dutch posting basically stopped. |
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