If that does not please you, maybe the more sophisticated thing to do is wait a few years and see what happens.

I'm just trying to think through what might happen if Dash ever tried to become well known or widely used. I imagine if it ever started to become widely used Evan would have to explain what went on

Is this correct, or have I been misled?

If it is correct , did Evan Duffield ever explain why, the release time was moved?

Its the guy with largest wallet on trex. he has 400k aeon second one 175k coins.

Evidence?

You can ask the French police or just use google. Is not difficult, believe me.

I like to see you climb on mirrors.

Ok you are right, my fault. I used the wrong term to describe a very risky investment like that game

MONERO is not a SCAM, Is a pyramid that has invaded this community aggressively without compromise.

I never say that monero is a scam, so.. you say that!

Thanks!

@Spoetnik

Thanks man, go ahead!

one day this forum will return to the origins.

When we are discussing together a common project: an alternative economic system.

It is an honor for me to have a negative TRUST by smooth. Because i'm an honest person.

DASH troll post?

nice work ceti

another scam by smooth and MONERO team

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1233817.0

[Poll] Is Spoetnik a Lying Troll??? : definitely not, Spoetnik is a GENIUS, one of the few people here that speaks sincerely.

As you've pointed out there isn't a whole lot of useful marketing that can really take place on this forum.

I wish I knew what was better but I cant figure it out because I cant find a wallet that works for monero. Oh well guess Ill stick with software that actually functions correctly and gets the job done.

jup, cuz governments are almighty and never ever collapse under their own fiat-paper-debt-laden dead weight... historylessons, much? In the (sometimes very) long run, free market wins...

I doubt it.

You're a talker. He's a doer.

On the subject of logos, here is my latest offering.



A better shade of blue coupled with a modern better graphic. Simple, universal and powerful.

This is the direction we should be headed.

Which is exactly what I wrote it must do, and exactly what I wrote when I surmised that your white paper was implying the highly jammable design of 10-of-10.

But as I pointed out in the correct math (which is clear you still haven't grasped), even 6-of-10 can be jammed 62% of the time (and multiply spent the other 38% of the time) given a 50% attack on the masternodes (i.e. the 50% attack on masternodes can attack 100% of the InstantX transactions). Even at 10% attack on masternodes, then every 666th UTXO can be jammed and roughly every 10,000th UTXO can be multiply spent. So if there are 66,600 UXTO, then a 10% attack on the masternodes (i.e. controlling 10% of the masternodes) roughly can jam 100 of the available UXTO and double-spend (actually multiply spend, i.e. unlimited lies can be announced by masternodes) 7 of them.

These sort of flaws are amateurish. You are in over your head. You are a programmer and some sort of finance person and a reasonably good marketer mining the gullible speculators (but not to actual users of currency), but you are not capable enough on the block chain theory.


Nope. My entire argument is you apparently still don't know how to do basic probability math.

Will you attempt to copy my design and order Dash's masternode announcements? Then will you try to copy my design and merge all the orphans? If not, you will still have attack flaws in your design. Will you replace the deposit for controlling a masternodes with a nomination by PoW, so as to avoid the flaw of externalities that can finance the purchase of masternodes, e.g. shorting the coin.

Well even if you do manage to copy my design, you still can't fix the fact that attacking masternodes is a one-time cost and not sublinear (ongoing cost) as per attacking a correctly designed PoW coin (which is the point that has been made by myself, monsterer, and smooth). And thus Dash is a proof-of-stake security model, not a proof-of-work. Thus it can be undermined by for example combining shorting with attacking masternodes. And you won't get all the small details correct, because you simply don't have enough smart people helping you, because apparently the smart people don't want to work on your closed source during development (and very well documented allegations: fraud) coin. I would never work on your coin, because you have no usership. It is all marketing to speculators to mine the speculators. What is the point? We are supposed to be creating crypto to change the world and entice millions or billions of users. But that has never been your marketing plan. You've always been mining the speculators instead.

And also I do believe the SEC will be coming after you eventually for very clearly running an unregistered illegal investment security (and you come from the finance world so you know very well that you are skirting the securities law). Hope you've paid off the regulators with the $million you mined from the gullible speculators in crypto. Personally I don't see how it has been worth it. The $million you've perhaps pocketed will never sustain you to be rich for the rest of your life, and you will constantly have hanging over your head the threat of SEC action at any time in the future. That is criminal liability in exchange for $million. Not worth it. You are nearing the end of the road for your run.

When I originally assisted you on some of the errors in your original design which caused you to invent masternodes, I viewed you as a nice guy who was trying to develop something. When all these allegations of fraud and premine crap came out, I was very shamed that I had let you get away with promoting Dash. I always knew that Dash was a barely literate design (come on do you really want me to explain how your new anonymity design will be just as flawed as the current on in Dash!), but I didn't want to interfere because I am not the altcoin police (unlike smooth who sometimes tries to act like a sheriff). But really I have to tell you frankly, that I am ashamed that you have mined the speculators and not proposed any real impact for mass usership. And now you have the audacity to go pumping up this Evolution design as some great innovation and fooling more gullible speculators. I mean if you hadn't of done the fraud thing, I would probably not be hitting you so hard now. Again I don't go around harping on the fraud thing, because I am not the altcoin police. But pleeeaaaseee do not try to argue that you are capable on block chain theory tech. You are not.

I don't want to help you because you are doing evil in terms of the goals we as a community are trying to reach. You are siphoning away money from the community and not putting it towards actual innovation (both marketing and technical) that could really help us deal with the problem of a State gone amok. Help us to reach the ideals of crypto. Instead you are just mining the speculators and they seem to believe you are technically capable. You are capable enough to produce code, and you are capable enough to correct mistakes that are pointed out to you. But you are not capable enough to get the really smart people to work with you on ongoing basis, because you are not going in the correct direction in terms of the purpose of why we are here supporting crypto in the first place, which is to get millions of users to use crypto and to better the world (while also making money from increased adoption, not from mining from each other i.e. extracting money from each other in zero-sum game on this forum).

Maybe if you mea culpa on the premine crap and work towards bettering the world instead fooling (ahem marketing to the) the speculators, then maybe I would feel like helping you. But any way, I am moving forward on trying to move the crypto world forward in the direction it needs to be going. Maybe you should help me! I helped you before and you made a lot of money from me standing aside and not criticizing Dash in the early days. Maybe now it is time for you to pay back to the community.

And most definitely you can't duplicate my marketing plan directly to millions of users.

This is the end of the road for Dash.

It will be evident some weeks from now that Dash has no future.

Edit: I will look at your source code links when I have time. I need to head out the door to do errands. If I discover that any of my points are incorrect, I will mea culpa. Again I don't hate you, but I feel I must be frank about the technology because we really need innovation that help us reach the goals of crypto and not just half-assed tech from guys who design schemes to siphon off the capital of crypto into their pockets. And again I have studied the SEC regulations and all these marketing to speculators is clearly a violation of the Howey test for being an unregistered illegal investment security. It doesn't matter how you've obfuscated it by pretending the masternodes are in control, the Supreme Court has consistently said that the test overlooks any attempts to obfuscate the economic reality of the situation. Then on top of that is the evidence of deception with the premine and the advertised money supply protocol being altered ex post facto, etc.

And afaik you are a USA citizen, so thus you incur the maximum culpability.

Yes, and my guess is that we have quite different sets of friends and that yours are far more computer-savvy than mine.  Like I said, common folk have yet to adopt bitcoin, much less any of the other altcoins.  I happen to like DOGE, and I've said this on other threads.  There's no rationale for this, I just like it--but there's nowhere to spend it!  It just makes a good tipping instrument, and there are some strange things for sale using it over on Reddit, but that's about it.  The uses for DOGE and the other coins are pretty limited.  Gambling, dark markets, and speculation.

Edit:  Hey, you're going to be a Hero member quite soon!

I have to say this:  I consider myself an average Joe Blow type of guy, and I don't even know how I got into bitcoin.  It was just something I read about on the internet and thought was cool.  Bitcoin has value, and bitcoin is the cryptocurrency people are going to use if they get into this.  Both of the coins you have this poll for I've heard of but know absolutely nothing about.  And I don't care to know anything about them.  Altcoins are destined to be ultimately abandoned.  There's no practical use for most of them, and Dash and Monero don't (in my opinion) have a future.  They are tools of speculation and will never be adopted by people like me.