You are only judging it from the statement of OP. This accusation has so many obscure things. Pmalek has given a well example of it


Someone created an account in a casino from unknown place by using a VPN service. Then he made a deposit to play, but suddenly the user changed his plan and asked the casino team to send his deposit back. So the question arises here:
Cloudbet will apply the funds confiscate rules (terms 11.4) if a user create an account and place bets from restricted countries. If OP is from a restricted country then why he made the deposit at Cloudbet by knowing the fact?

Some facts:

• The usage of VPN
• AML policy. (Making a deposit on the casino then requesting for withdrawal without placing bets).
• The casino have gambling license

Let's assume you are the government of a country. You have the law (casino license) where it is mentioned that you won't allow people from ‘A’ ‘B’ ‘C’ countries. A person entered in your country by using an illegal method (use of VPN) from an unknown place (it could be one of those restricted countries which is mentioned in the TOS). Now he wants to go back in his country without doing anything, but he knows that there is no way to leave your country silently (the withdrawal needs approval of Cloudbet team). So, the person asked you to let him go back in his place.

Will your government accept his request and send him back without any inquiry (by ignoring the law, by ignoring the illegal method he used)? Or you will ask him to verify his identity?

I was surprised when I saw England scored 50 runs without losing any wickets. I thought they will win the match easily. But I got more surprise by watching the result of the match. The downfall of England batting lineup has started from that 68 runs. Probably no one imagined that England will be all out at 124 runs only. Australian bowlers has done really great job today. Shameful performance from England team in this whole series. Similar performance like they (England) showed it in 2017-18 Ashes.

Most of the people join freebitco to earn free BTC. And the main marketing tool is ‘earn upto $200 from faucets every hour’. Many newbie crypto user join through the affiliate links with a hope of winning big amounts from faucets. Eventually they leave the site when they loss their interest by getting the lower tier prizes. Among my 38 referrals only one user is active now. I had only 4-5 referrals who used to play the multiply BTC game. But none of them are active now.

No problem here. Maybe your ISP is blocking the access, otherwise the problem is from your browser.

Well, I was thinking that why I'm getting merits from those forum members who aren't active in gambling section. Finally I discovered the reason here while I was randomly checking some post's from each board (almost 11 hours later). Thank you for bringing the post in the attention of merit sources.

You are making little mistake here. The result of this series will be 4-0 if Australia win the 5th test match. Because, England hasn't won any match in this series yet. They were lucky to make the draw in the 4th test match. England players has shown poor performance in this full series. Betting odds is fully in favour of Australia now. Probably they will win the match.

More than 48 hours has been passed and I'm still waiting for the reply of their email support. Maybe the team is having some vacations, otherwise they are busy with other important things. A live support system is really helpful in case of instant enquiry. Blackjack.fun team need to bring this feature. I'm also expecting to see the update of their TOS page. The information are messed up now.
@sujonali1819, I can see you are highly connected with Blackjack team. Do you have any information about their gambling license?

I'm also wondering how the system will suspect the underage users. Maybe they will observe the betting patterns. They may contact the user if they find it unusual than all other bettors. And it isn't so hard to determine an underage person by doing some conversation with them.
Probably they still have some restricted countries as they had license before. Some countries have strict laws against gambling. It could be a reason to keep the restrictions on some countries as well.

Freebitco have the shortest list of terms among all gambling site. They have no single word about the KYC/identity/AML policy in their TOS. I found no information there which could be included in the post. About Roobet, they have mandatory level 1 KYC verification system. I didn't include any more info in their KYC requirements column as they have a mandatory verification system.

Almost every licensed casino have the validator link available at the bottom of the page. I found only 2 casinos from the current table who have license information available at the site without validator link. One of them is Betcoin.ag and the other one is CryptoGames. @Beparanf, it would have been more helpful if you had mentioned the names as well. I have sent a message to both casino email support for the details of license validator. Let's wait for the response of them.

I haven't update them in the list as everything is mixed up there. I have searched with the keywords ‘KYC' and found about their rules, but I couldn't find the details of KYC verification steps there. And it's true that every licensed casino have almost same steps for the KYC verification

Suggestions from the forum members will be needed in the next few days for sure, because it isn't going to possible for me to collect the information from each casino. And I need feedbacks from the forum members. So, there is no reason to lock this topic. Eventually, I haven't seen any useless reply in this thread yet. I wanted to avoid the off-topic and useless discussion here, seems like the message of the post is working.

The license validator is available in every casino and you can verify it by clicking in the validator logo from the casino only. The validator link doesn't work if I post it here. I tried to put the link in the table when I was creating this topic, but I removed the link as it was showing some error like this

Sorry, I had no intention to bother you or the other 3 members with the mess PM, and I never thought that it will be considered as spam from any of you.

BTW, the amount doesn't matter. The KYC requirements is mentioned in the casino terms. And a licensed casino have to follow the rules of their terms, no matter how small the withdrawal amount is. I'm a regular bettor and I'm in gambling since last 4 years. I have seen many cases like this in different places. As example: A user was asked for KYC verification on a withdrawal of $105 only at Primedice and I have described the story here. Moreover, I was asked to do KYC verification on a withdrawal of 0.00113 BTC at PlayBetr, you can see the details here. ^{However, My issue was resolved without the verification process.}

There are two reasons for the presence of me in this accusation. The first one is mentioned by Pmalek above, and I have said about the second reason in the PM (I'm collecting the data of KYC requirements from each casino). I didn't support the flag as OP isn't accepting the whole terms of Cloudbet, I didn't Oppose the flag as Cloudbet admin staying silent. My position is clear here, and it is neutral.

The reason of your mute says ‘spam, scam’. It is reasonable to mute your newly created account if the reason is accurate. Their email support has given you the permission to create new account only by deleting the previous one. But I believe every casino will do the same with you if your old history isn't good. I'm wondering what you have done to get muted as ‘spam, scam’.

As I have mentioned it in the post, I'm still working to collect the data and add more casino in the list. I have checked Blackjack.fun too, but I couldn't find the required information. Yesterday I sent a message to their email support, and I'm still waiting for their reply. I have also sent email to two other casino (Bustadice & CoinRoyale) and got reply from both of them. I will add them in the list soon.

Like all of you, I can't see the license in Blackjack.fun while they have ‘KYC requirements’ mentioned in their TOS. Anyway, their TOS is mixed-up as everything is written in a single paragraph. They should separate each rules of the terms.

Cloudbet hasn't mentioned anything about the usage of VPN in their terms, but it is better to avoid the usage of VPN in a licensed casino where some country restrictions are placed.


Yeah, the KYC rules is above all other terms of a casino. Because every casino says “We reserves the right to ask for KYC at any time..” I think OP should go through the KYC process to confirm whether Cloudbet return his deposit amount or not. Until then we can't say it is 100% scam.

I just sent a PM to those DT members (NeuroticFish, logfiles, dkbit98, Jawhead999) who supported the flag. I would like to hear back from them as they supported the type 3 flag according to this accusation.

Well, I have also found some similar results about the Aadhaar card through Google search. The Unique Identification Authority of India says that “Aadhaar is not a citizenship document: UIDAI”

I found another article about it: The UIDAI Has No Authority to Verify Indian Citizenship. How a casino will accept it as your identity verification where the authority have no one to verify the citizenship based on that documents! Stake verification page says that ”photographs of ID cards and Passport are acceptable,” @amahato998, don't you have any government given valid ID card? (except the Aadhaar card)

Probably we are going to see the repetition of second test match. The target is only 212 runs and South Africa has scored 101 runs by losing two wickets only. I think they will win the match with at least 5 wickets in hand. The betting odds is in favour of South Africa now, but it was in favour of India yesterday. I'm not expecting any collapse in the Proteas batting lineup.

Maybe it was a typing mistake from OP. Based on the details of this thread this accusation is valid. OP said Cloudbet asked him to verify his identity as the system suspected that he is from restricted country. If they confiscated his funds for having multiple accounts then they should have mentioned about it without asking for KYC. Anyway, Cloudbet reserves the right to freeze user fund if he/she create more than one account (terms 7.1.10.2)

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BTW, I have checked the ‘PM/Chat Logs’ from the post and found that Cloudbet team mentioned about the terms 7.1.4 and 7.1.6


So, OP isn't giving priority to those terms and haven't done the KYC verification. I'm wondering why he (OP) is accepting a small part of the terms by ignoring the first few parts of it. A type 3 flag has been created and supported by the DT members based on the statements of this thread!

This accusation would be more valid if OP hasn't received the refund by completing the verification. I can see that only ’bL4nkcode’ has mentioned about those terms here. I think this accusation is currently at ‘neutral’ position. However, the silence of the Cloudbet admin isn't acceptable.

There are a lot more information about KYC verification in each gambling sites T&C/AML page. It wasn't possible to include all of those details in the table. I have only provided the screenshot of the terms where the casino mentioned ”We reserves the right to ask for KYC/identity verification... ”. This topic contains a small & basic part of the KYC policy. So, it will be better to check out the T&C page to clear all doubts.

The result could be different based on the cases. Even casino may seize your funds and close your account, otherwise refund of the deposits and close your account after submitting the personal details. It will be complicated to add those information in the table.

Almost all of them using 3rd party service to complete and verify the KYC data of the users. I thought to add the list of the providers, but I wasn't able to check it in every casino. I will try to add it in the future (if possible). A licensed casino must need to follow the rules of their license provider. They won't disclose the personal details of any users in public places, but they may share it with someone (legal authority) to verify the documents.

@Pmalek, here is an open (unsolved) scam accusation against Cloudbet since last 50 days. And a type 3 flag is active against the Cloudbet admin. I think you need to remove them from the table now.
BTW, I'm waiting to get some feedbacks and suggestions from you and ‘notblox1’ in this thread Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements

Kindly avoid making discussion whether you like the KYC process or not. This isn't a discussion topic.

At first crypto casino was well known for anonymous betting platform. But with the implementation of gambling license in crypto casino KYC has become a common thing now. However, KYC isn't mandatory for all of the users. You can still play at most of the crypto betting sites without verifying your identity. But a casino may ask you to verify your identity if they find it necessary. There are several reasons behind it

• To Determine the Identity and Location: This is the most common reason for asking identity verification. Online casino doesn't allow underage gambling. You must need to be older than 18 years to place bets. Beside that, most of the casino has placed some country restrictions. Casino will ask for KYC verification if the system suspect any users for breaking those terms.
• AML and Coin Mixing Policy: To prevent anti money laundering and coin mixing policy casino reserve the right to ask for KYC verification. Try to avoid suspicious activity and always complete the rollover/wagering requirements.
• To Prevent the Abuses: Many bettors create multiple accounts to take the benefits of promotions. Few bettors use some illegal algorithm to win their bets. Crypto casino asks for KYC verification if the system detect any suspicious activity like this.
• Some Other Factors: Identity verification is also required in case of bigger withdrawals. There could be few other reasons too which depends on the license provider and services of the casino.

- Casino with negative feedback (proven scam accusations) will not be added in the list.
- All of the information is collected from each casino T&C, KYC/AML policy page.
- Kindly inform me if you find any mistakes in the table.
- The list has been made in alphabetical order.

Casino Name	|	License(Register)	|	License Operator	|	KYC Requirements	|	KYC details
BC.Game	|	Yes (158182)	|	BlockDance B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents: photo of your Govt. approved ID card, driver's license and passport. Proof of address, Source of funds.
BCH.games	|	No	|	N/A	|	No	|	N/A
BetChain	|	Yes (152125)	|	Dama N.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Proof of Identity, Proof of Address & Source of Funds.
Betcoin	|	Yes (163193)	|	Supreme Solutions B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	A selfie with a note to the casino, a phone call or verification of a player via live video call (Skype), copy of government Identification, passport, and recent utility or cable bill.
BetFury	|	Yes (155126)	|	Universe B Games B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents: a picture of passport, driver's license, or national ID card. Proof of address: picture of recent utility bill listing your name and address.
BetHash	|	Yes (153302)	|	OrionStar B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Proof of Identity, Proof of Address & Source of Funds.
Betplay	|	Yes•	|	Lama Tech, Limitada	|	No	|	N/A
Bets	|	Yes*(155648)	|	Bets Entertainment N.V.	|	Yes*(If needed)	|	Identity documents: ID card, passport. Proof of address: Utility Bill. Source of funds: Bank Statement.
Bitcasino	|	Yes (152185)	|	Moon Technologies B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents: National ID card, passport or driver’s license.
Bitsler	|	Yes (144430)	|	Oyine N.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Level 1 KYC is mandatory to access the 3rd party providers slots game. They may request for Identity Documents, Proof of Address and a selfie with identity documents.
Bitvest	|	No	|	N/A	|	No	|	N/A
BK8	|	Yes (164452)	|	Black Hawk Technology B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Depends on the request of casino team.
BlackJack	|	Yes•	|	Satya Code SRL	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents: government Issued ID, a selfie with the documents. Proof of address: utility bill. Source of funds: bank statement.
BTC365	|	Yes*•	|	E-Gambling Montenegro d.o.o.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents: National ID or Passport, a selfie with documents. Proof of address. Deposit slip
Bustabit	|	No	|	N/A	|	Uncommon	|	Only age and country verification: Passport or Government ID.
Bustadice	|	No	|	N/A	|	Uncommon	|	Only age and country verification: Passport or Government ID.
CoinRoyale	|	No	|	N/A	|	Uncommon	|	Depends on the request of casino team.
CoinsGame	|	Yes (161620)	|	Royal Way N.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Depends on the request of casino team.
Cloudbet	|	Yes (148526)	|	Halcyon Super Holdings B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents: national ID, international passport. Proof of address: utility bill. Source of funds.
CryptoGames	|	Yes (153126)	|	MuchGaming B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity Documents, Proof of Address and other required information (based on the request of casino team).
Crashino	|	Yes (162031)	|	MIBS N.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Depends on the request of casino team.
DuckDice	|	Yes (145622)	|	Sabant B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Depends on the request of casino team.
Duelbits	|	Yes (153298)	|	Liquid Entertainment N.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents, Proof of Address
EarnBet	|	Yes (148186)	|	Aurora Tech N.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents, Proof of address, Source of funds.
Fairlay	|	Yes*•	|	Fairly LLC	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Depends on the request of casino team.
Fairspin	|	Yes (151612)	|	Techcore Holding B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents: govt. ID, passport, driver's license. Proof of address.
Flush	|	Yes (161495)	|	King of Clubz B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents: government issued identity card, or passport, or driving license. Proof of Address. Source of funds.
FortuneJack	|	Yes (139781)	|	Nexus Group Enterprises N.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	It depends on the cases. Normally, valid certified ID verification with a selfie.
FreeBitco	|	Yes*	|	FBC B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Depends on the request of the casino team.
Futuur	|	Yes (150052)	|	Futuur B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents: certified copies of identity cards. Proof of address. Source of funds: bank statements, photocopy of your credit cards.
Gamdom	|	Yes (141727)	|	Smein Hosting N.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents: passport, ID card, driving license & a selfie. Proof of address: Utility bill. Source of funds.
Jacksclub	|	Yes (157706)	|	Jackfruit B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Selfie video. Identity documents: Passport, driver's license or national ID card.
Livecasino	|	Yes (152185)	|	Moon Technologies B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents: National ID card, passport or driver’s license.
L0tt0	|	No	|	N/A	|	No	|	N/A
LuckyDiamond	|	No	|	N/A	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Depends on the request of casino team.
MaverickGames	|	Yes (Check)	|	Shelgeyr Limited	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents: Passport, Driver’s Licence, ID card. Proof of address: Utility Bill, Bank statement.
Mbet	|	No	|	N/A	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity Documents: Drivers License, Passport, Phone Number, Photographic Evidence. Proof of address: Utility Bill. Source of funds.
Metaspins	|	Yes (160102)	|	Metaspins N.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Depends on the request of casino team.
MetaWin	|	Yes (153109)	|	Asobi N.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents: Passport, ID Card, driver’s license. Proof of address: Utility bill, bank statement. Source of funds.
MintDice	|	Yes (146440)	|	Prism Sentinel N.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents: Passports, ID cards, driving license, phone verification, face verification. Proof of address: utility bill. Source of funds.
NanoGames	|	No	|	N/A	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Depends on the request of casino team.
OwlGames	|	Yes (158185)	|	Cyber Galaxy B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents: passport, national ID Card. Proof of address: utility bills. Source of funds.
Paradice	|	No	|	N/A	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Depends on the request of casino team.
PlayBitcoinGames	|	No	|	N/A	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Depends on the request of casino team.
Primedice	|	Yes (145203)	|	Slicemedia B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Proof of Identity, Proof of Address & Source of Funds.
Riobet	|	Yes (135400)	|	Riotech N.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents: Passport, ID card, Driving license. Proof of address: Utility Bill. Source of funds: Bank Statement.
Rocketpot	|	Yes (151265)	|	Danneskjold Ventures B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Proof of Identity, Proof of Address & Source of Funds.
Rocket Run	|	Yes (149345)	|	Alford N.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents: Passport, ID card or driving license, selfie with ID. Proof of address: Utility bill. Source of funds.
Rollbit	|	Yes (157086)	|	Bull Gaming N.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents, Proof of Address, Source of funds.
Roobet	|	Yes (157205)	|	Raw Entertainment B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Level 1 KYC is mandatory. They may request for Proof of Identity, Proof of Address & Source of Funds verification process.
Sherbet	|	Yes (161889)	|	Spinkick N.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Depends on the request of the casino team.
Shuffle	|	Yes (160998)	|	Natural nine B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents: Passport, Driver’s Licence, etc. Proof of address: Utility Bill. Source of Funds: Bank statement.
Sportsbet.io	|	Yes (129230)	|	mBet Solutions N.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents: National ID card, passport or driver’s licence. - Proof of address: Utility bill or Bank statement.
Sportbet.one	|	No	|	N/A	|	No	|	N/A
Stake	|	Yes (145353)	|	Medium Rare N.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Proof of Identity, Proof of Address & Source of Funds.
StarBets	|	No	|	N/A	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Depends on the request of casino team.
Thunderpick	|	Yes (146988)	|	Paloma Media B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents: passport, national Identity Card. Proof of address: Utility bill. Source of funds.
Tower	|	Yes (147211)	|	Sabant B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents. User may need to complete further verification steps (based on the request of casino team)
TrustDice	|	Yes (151832)	|	Satoshi Gaming Group N.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity Documents, Proof of Address, Source of Funds.
Vavada	|	Yes (143168)	|	Vavada B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents: Passport, Driver’s Licence, etc. Proof of address: Utility Bill, Bank statement.
VIPGame	|	Yes (153302)	|	OrionStar B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents, Proof of address, Source of funds.
Wild.io	|	Yes (161858)	|	Nonce Gaming B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents: Passport, driver’s license, etc. Proof of address: Utility bill, bank statement. Source of funds: Bank statement or any other official document.
WinDice	|	Yes (160672)	|	Win Games Group N.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Depends on the request of casino team.
Winz	|	Yes (152125)	|	Dama N.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents: driver’s license, ID card, passport. Proof of address: utility bills with the name and address on it. Source of funds.
Wolf	|	Yes*(149850)	|	HDS Technologies N.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	User need to provide necessary informations (based on the request of casino team).
500Casino	|	Yes (150536)	|	Perfect Storm B.V.	|	Yes (If needed)	|	Identity documents: National ID, Passport, Driver's license. Proof of address: utility bill & Source of funds.
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Note: The * mark casino have license information available at the site, but they don't have the license validator link available yet. Some of them are working on it; The • mark casino doesn't owned and operated by a company which is located in Curacao. As a result Curacao commercial register isn't available for them. The * mark casino advertising in the forum with “No KYC” in the ANN thread title, while their terms says that they reserves the right to ask for KYC documents of the users.

• How to verify the license?
Currently there are 4 master license operators of Curacao gambling license providers.

• Curacao E-gaming Cyberluck Curacao N.V. (1668/JAZ)
• Curacao Interactive Licensing N.V. (CIL) (5536/JAZ)
• Curacao Antillephone N.V. (8048/JAZ)
• Curacao Gaming N.V. (365/JAZ)

Almost every casino has a validator link of their Curacao master license operators at the bottom of the webpage. Simply click on the logo to verify the gambling license of a casino. Few casino operates with other license providers. Those casino doesn't have license validator link available at their site.

Always check the Terms and conditions, KYC and AML policy of the casino to get more details about the KYC verification.

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None of the teams played badly and the Proteas performance wasn't worse as well. India got the lead of 13 runs only, today they have added 57 more runs by losing 2 wickets. India should set a target above 350 runs to make the game on their favour. The pitch could be good for batters on the last two days of this match. We may see the similar result like the second test match if Indian batting lineup collapsed at the first session of tomorrow. Anyway, betting odds is in favour of India now.

Probably they have planned a delayed monthly bonus, as a result they have given a surprised pre-monthly bonus at the 11th day of the month. It will be more surprising if Stake release the monthly bonus on the 16th or 17th January. Now I think that it will not be given within next 7 days.

I'm wondering why people are complaining about the pre-monthly bonus (which is one kind of extra bonus). Actually users were desperately waiting for the monthly bonus. Pre-monthly bonus is based on VIP rank and the amount is fixed. I think users aren't satisfied as they were waiting for a bigger monthly bonus since last 10 days. Now it seems like, giving the monthly bonus on the first day of December month wasn't a good decision by Stake team.