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2681  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 18, 2014, 11:00:58 AM
Can anyone explain me how forging with NEM works and if this is profitable for those who will buy at an exchange soon?

Because I see that a lot of newbies are complaining about not being able to forge because of the low amount NXT they have.



The forging mechanism is not yet fully developed, but I think its safe to say that it will be fairer to the newcomers than the NXT mechanism. In other words it will not be wholly based on the amount of NEM you own (POS) like in NXT.

You can look at the dev plan to read up on it (plz look for a link the registration threads) or find my post a few pages back where I tried to explain it allthough I'm not sure my explanation is 100% correct.
2682  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] ---NEM stake complaint, questions etc.--- on: February 18, 2014, 10:56:59 AM
Hi there,

I just noticed I got marked with "Duplicated Hash."  Could any one of you explain to me what's going on?  I'm located on Thread 1, Position No. 1094.

Does it mean someone steal my Hash?  Where can I find the Hash Check spreadsheet for Thread 1??

Please get back to me and let me know asap.  I did sent the money, so I can certainly prove I'm the sender.

Thanks.

Hi,

Yes this means that someone (or you Smiley) has stolen that hash. You can provide proof of your ownership via a new transaction from the same address with a very small amount or by providing a screenshot of your client showing the transaction.

Hi pat,

I found the thread 1 hash check.  It shows that SchlockHolmes and skylartomstrom have same HASH.  And it also says I'm the possible owner.

Well, I just sent 0.0002 BTC to prove that Im the legit owner from my bitcoin address: 1Jg7stgF3cor9e1CTq8ox5PKMAw3MNcUHN, which as you can see, is linked to transaction id: 55c9245283dea2ff97e4addc01bff0b78b59f629a8839fcc412d8632d6bfc63c.

Please remove Duplicate Hash tag from my name. Thanks

SOLVED: Skylar is legit. I added a comment to the stakeholderlist.
2683  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] ---NEM stake complaint, questions etc.--- on: February 18, 2014, 10:54:22 AM
Dear Utopianture,

I am the real owner of this:

As you can see I registered on page 65 and that Mr Scam bitrut123 did it one page later!

1295   Porte   3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198   1   duplicated hash
1319   bitrut123   3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198   1   duplicated hash

Please its crystal clear the one who post later is the scammer I don't know why I should go through this.

Anyway if you need extra proof check below:

BitCoin 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ 0.01610000 BTC Yes 2014-01-27 14:48:23

Processed TrxID: 3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198 @ 2014-01-27 14:46:31

You can check I sent 0.0161, so I sent 0.0001 btc extra.

Please delete me from the scammer list and also please reply back to this post once is done, I need confirmations of this

Thanks,

Porte


Please can you reply to this

Your name is missing in the stakeholderlist alltogether which should be a mistake.
You'll have to proof that this is really your transaction no matter how crystal clear it looks. We've had cases where the legit user used his hash later.
Your "proof" is no proof since you only provided the same hash as you did in your original posting. You need to make a new transaction to proof the sender address is yours or provide a screenshot of your client showing the transaction.

My name is in the stakeholderlist

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdDZ0amZpM00wQXhrR2lJM3pCOGRhNFE#gid=0

And if you read carefully what I wrote I sent 0.0161btc instead of the 0.016,  and only the real person who sent it knows how much it was sent and that is me. There is not need to make a new transaction as the proof its the 0.0001btc extra I sent in the first place. Do the frauster know that, of course no, he just copied my hash.

Please anyone in authority reply to this and sort this out, thanks

Of course he could know that. You do realize the blockchain is public right ? If your original post stated that you sent 0.0161 I would have cleared you but since both posts only state that 0.016 were sent I can't do that. It's only fair that you have to proof the ownership as anyone else does. What if bitrut123 comes and claims the same thing - how could I know who's lying ?

I agree that it's unfair that you have to make a transaction if you are the victim here but it's what's necessary to make sure no one that has not paid the fee get's a stake. Like I said, you can also provide a screenshot of your client showing that transaction.

If you wan't to clear that with someone from the core team PM utopianfuture but he'll tell you the same thing.

Thank you very much patmast3r to show me how to do it, please see below, let me know if its ok or you require anything else

http://picpaste.com/pics/16-4JDYa2uQ.1392719720.png

SOLVED: Porte is legit. I added a comment in the stakeholderlist.
2684  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] ---NEM stake complaint, questions etc.--- on: February 18, 2014, 10:30:39 AM
Hi there,

I just noticed I got marked with "Duplicated Hash."  Could any one of you explain to me what's going on?  I'm located on Thread 1, Position No. 1094.

Does it mean someone steal my Hash?  Where can I find the Hash Check spreadsheet for Thread 1??

Please get back to me and let me know asap.  I did sent the money, so I can certainly prove I'm the sender.

Thanks.

Hi,

Yes this means that someone (or you Smiley) has stolen that hash. You can provide proof of your ownership via a new transaction from the same address with a very small amount or by providing a screenshot of your client showing the transaction.
2685  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 18, 2014, 10:23:18 AM
Hello patmast3r

I like the colours of your signature. May i have it, too?  Grin

go ahead. I got no copyright on them Smiley
2686  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] ---NEM stake complaint, questions etc.--- on: February 18, 2014, 10:19:13 AM
I do understand patmast3r , please can you tell me how I can attach or do a screenshot here I can not see the option,

You can use http://picpaste.com/ to upload the pic and then use the image function of the forum to link to it or simply post the link.
If you'd like to keep it private you can also send me a pm.

Thank you for understanding.
2687  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] ---NEM stake complaint, questions etc.--- on: February 18, 2014, 10:10:35 AM
Dear Utopianture,

I am the real owner of this:

As you can see I registered on page 65 and that Mr Scam bitrut123 did it one page later!

1295   Porte   3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198   1   duplicated hash
1319   bitrut123   3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198   1   duplicated hash

Please its crystal clear the one who post later is the scammer I don't know why I should go through this.

Anyway if you need extra proof check below:

BitCoin 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ 0.01610000 BTC Yes 2014-01-27 14:48:23

Processed TrxID: 3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198 @ 2014-01-27 14:46:31

You can check I sent 0.0161, so I sent 0.0001 btc extra.

Please delete me from the scammer list and also please reply back to this post once is done, I need confirmations of this

Thanks,

Porte


Please can you reply to this

Your name is missing in the stakeholderlist alltogether which should be a mistake.
You'll have to proof that this is really your transaction no matter how crystal clear it looks. We've had cases where the legit user used his hash later.
Your "proof" is no proof since you only provided the same hash as you did in your original posting. You need to make a new transaction to proof the sender address is yours or provide a screenshot of your client showing the transaction.

My name is in the stakeholderlist

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlidWok7hW0DdDZ0amZpM00wQXhrR2lJM3pCOGRhNFE#gid=0

And if you read carefully what I wrote I sent 0.0161btc instead of the 0.016,  and only the real person who sent it knows how much it was sent and that is me. There is not need to make a new transaction as the proof its the 0.0001btc extra I sent in the first place. Do the frauster know that, of course no, he just copied my hash.

Please anyone in authority reply to this and sort this out, thanks

Of course he could know that. You do realize the blockchain is public right ? If your original post stated that you sent 0.0161 I would have cleared you but since both posts only state that 0.016 were sent I can't do that. It's only fair that you have to proof the ownership as anyone else does. What if bitrut123 comes and claims the same thing - how could I know who's lying ?

I agree that it's unfair that you have to make a transaction if you are the victim here but it's what's necessary to make sure no one that has not paid the fee get's a stake. Like I said, you can also provide a screenshot of your client showing that transaction.

If you wan't to clear that with someone from the core team PM utopianfuture but he'll tell you the same thing.
2688  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 18, 2014, 10:01:42 AM
Will we receive a PM from you utopianfuture when the audit has been completed? Or are you going to post on the discussion forum thread?

There will be community audit following the core team audit. For example I checked about 50 transactions once and found several cheaters. If every member of the community will do the same then the audit could take a while.

As I understand it:

The first part of the audit will (obiously) be just collecting intel. Searching for dupicate hashes and unreasonable amount of stake bought by the same person. This is the stage we're in right now.

The next part will be a public thread where all the suspicous people can comment on what they are being suspected of to resolve possible false positives.

After that we should have a relatvely clean stakeholderlist.
2689  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] ---NEM stake complaint, questions etc.--- on: February 18, 2014, 09:23:47 AM
Dear Utopianture,

I am the real owner of this:

As you can see I registered on page 65 and that Mr Scam bitrut123 did it one page later!

1295   Porte   3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198   1   duplicated hash
1319   bitrut123   3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198   1   duplicated hash

Please its crystal clear the one who post later is the scammer I don't know why I should go through this.

Anyway if you need extra proof check below:

BitCoin 1Lk5Paws9T1YpoSeLeZT7ZeSQKW7UNq4TJ 0.01610000 BTC Yes 2014-01-27 14:48:23

Processed TrxID: 3cfb6f3aa452b56f5f3afdc9c67e2c2c7731b258093f7b691ed9d99f01791198 @ 2014-01-27 14:46:31

You can check I sent 0.0161, so I sent 0.0001 btc extra.

Please delete me from the scammer list and also please reply back to this post once is done, I need confirmations of this

Thanks,

Porte


Please can you reply to this

Your name is missing in the stakeholderlist alltogether which should be a mistake.
You'll have to proof that this is really your transaction no matter how crystal clear it looks. We've had cases where the legit user used his hash later.
Your "proof" is no proof since you only provided the same hash as you did in your original posting. You need to make a new transaction to proof the sender address is yours or provide a screenshot of your client showing the transaction.
2690  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 18, 2014, 07:04:52 AM




While it looks pretty cool especially in combination with the website it's imho too close to NXT.
2691  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] ---NEM stake complaint, questions etc.--- on: February 18, 2014, 07:00:59 AM
Hello, on page 14 I sent some Bitcoins that my friend sold to me to buy a stake, but after hours it was unconfirmed and I ended up losing the Bitcoins. It was just weird and makes me not trust Bitcoins anymore after Googling the problem and seeing that other people had the same problem.

Is there a way for me to pay that stake? And if yes, how much?

Here is page 14 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.260

I'm sorry but your transaction seems to be lost. I can't even find it in the blockchain anymore. It's possible that there was something wrong with your client or the blockchain that your client held. Before making a TX you always need to make sure that your blockchain is up to date.

All I can do at this point is request you to pay the fee (amount as it was when you first tried so 0.04 BTC) again.
2692  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] ---NEM stake complaint, questions etc.--- on: February 18, 2014, 06:55:57 AM
My name is on the list, but I don't have a Y next to me, not sure why, I sent my investment early on as detailed here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=422129.msg4651630#msg4651630

Do I need to do anything else to get the Y? Thanks

I answered your pm
2693  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] ---NEM stake complaint, questions etc.--- on: February 17, 2014, 08:30:42 PM


          on stakeholder list I am put down as duplicate hash. My hash is first so I dont see how it can be me at fault.
 my number on list is 2749-thread 2.
i sent 1 nxt coin to prove it was my account and transaction number is   2260315738946426351

  I check other guy Knisch on blockchain---he sent 700 nxt after me on another transaction number. I think he put my number down as mistake?

I'll add a comment to the stakeholderlist that you are legit. Thanks for providing proof.


cant see comment after a day.worried I will not be on final list.maybe you not had time yet.? Sorry if your busy.!!!!

Weird. I guess I didn't save the comment or something. Well it's there now. Sorry about that.
2694  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 17, 2014, 07:57:15 PM
updated version, includes link to nem website!

lala

Make me one that works on LTC forums and I'll fly it with pride Smiley

It should work in any forum that allows html in signatures.
2695  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 17, 2014, 07:27:47 PM
I just saw that we got the dev from CGB on board: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=440185.msg5181640#msg5181640

That's pretty cool imho Smiley

Btw: CGB is worth checking out !
2696  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 17, 2014, 07:08:47 PM
@neilh: That's pretty slick dude ! I like them a lot !
2697  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 17, 2014, 05:50:42 PM
Is there a wallet available yet for NEM?

Nope. And no, there is no ETA Wink
2698  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 17, 2014, 05:11:56 PM

I can understand, when you try to punch out the 1-post-new-members - probably they opened a new account just to get more stakes..

BUT why you would penalize the new ones, who are a part of the community and write some posts in the community??
These people are like us - THEY LOVE the NEM-PROJECT!!!!




Those people won't be touched at all. Who has ever said that active people will get weeded out ?
Actually who said that newbies will be penalized at all ?
2699  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] ---NEM stake complaint, questions etc.--- on: February 17, 2014, 01:46:27 PM
I`ve sent 700 NXT 3 days ago, but in stakeholder list I was suspect to be a  fraudster.
I am come from china, maybe there are something wrong in my Transaction. I opened my wallet today, and I found my NXT coins are the same, so I resent 700 NXT to 14343293611098709683.

please Cry I am not a fraudster,please check it, thank you!
my Transaction id: 6418516068958028500

You are not marked as fraudster. I can only see a "Y" next to your name. No comment or anything.
2700  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread on: February 17, 2014, 12:21:53 PM
I will add by Grin :

- The best distributed coin
- Better than NXT



Plz don't do that. We don't debase other coins Smiley

I also think we should only put there what's absolutely for sure and thought through. Eventually there should be our logo, a link to the website and maybe a slogan.
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