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2681  Economy / Economics / Re: Tesla overtake Amazon? on: January 10, 2021, 10:37:39 PM
The magic of markets. everything can be changed really fast. However, i think in the mid term amazon will be back to first place again
In terms of revenue and profit, Amazon is far ahead of Tesla. The current valuation of Tesla doesn't make any sense, and it looks as if they are making money out of thin air. Stock market as a whole is looking like an inflated bubble, but that is the case with almost all the other sectors (even with cryptocurrency). I have a feeling that a market crash can be expected sometime soon.
This is not magic, but illusionism Wink It would be quite funny and surreal if with the air money of capitalization Tesla bought Toyota and Volkswagen and turned really into the biggest car manufacturer in the world Wink Some time ago, something similar was already done by Mr. Zuckerberg buying up companies left and right almost without spending money, making payment only with Facebook shares soaring in price.
2682  Economy / Economics / Re: China Economy Forecasted to Surpass US Economy by 2028 on: January 09, 2021, 11:59:14 PM
China is very much threatened by inter-ethnic and interfaith conflicts. That's why they've rounded up their Muslim inhabitants by the millions and put them in concentration camps and torture them under "re-education" programs. China is so centrally managed because the leadership is deathly afraid of anyone who doesn't swear absolute loyalty to the party.
Interethnic and sectarian conflicts can threaten any large country simply because of its size, and that is why central governments exist to deal with such issues. Another issue is that I don't have strong confidence that a few million inhabitants can so much threaten the integrity of a country with 1.4 billion people predominantly belonging to one ethnic group called "Han", which makes up 93% of the population. For modern China, ideological and property stratification is much more dangerous, when the political system may not keep up with the rapidly growing well-being of citizens who may demand more respect for their own opinions.
2683  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin volatility here to stay? on: January 09, 2021, 11:50:15 PM
It is unlikely that a short-lived, but a decent drop in the price of bitcoin recently can be called a correction of its rate. This is just the usual manifestation of its volatility. Apparently, significant batches of bitcoins were put on the market for sale, which led to its almost instant drop in price. Even if its capitalization grows significantly, Bitcoin is unlikely to be able to get rid of this high volatility. It seems to me that Bitcoin and the high volatility of its price will always be together.
Bitcoin, by its nature, is not tied to anything and therefore the will is already laid down in the rules of the game and the foundations of its existence, so if after some time the price of bitcoin suddenly becomes stable, it means that the economic system of the world has collapsed and humanity has decided to rely on bitcoin for a while, taking it as the basis of the economy. Or is it something completely different, but not about bitcoin Wink
2684  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: January 09, 2021, 11:36:38 PM
In order for Bayern Munich to stop allowing itself to lose points, it is only necessary that there is only one team that will stop allowing itself to take such liberties and RB Leipzig best fits this definition. Therefore, I would still not completely bury the intrigue in the current championship and already in the middle of the championship hang gold medals around the neck of the wards of Hans Dieter Flick.
2685  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: January 09, 2021, 11:21:51 PM
I'm really looking forward to the AO as it feels like its been a very long time since we last saw a Grand Slam tournament, well that is how I feel. I guess its because Wimbledon was cancelled last year and we only saw 3 Grand Slam tournaments, maybe that is why it feels that its been a long time not seeing a Grand Slam tournament.
I was unpleasantly surprised when, despite all the difficulties caused by the pandemic, Roland Garros and the US Open were held, and Wimbledon was canceled, despite the subsequent holding of the Final ATP Championship in London. With all due respect to the ATP Finals, but Wimbledon has a richer history and in extreme cases it would be possible to try to hold the tournament in the same locations where the Final Tournament was held.
2686  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 09, 2021, 11:10:48 PM
I think the challenger of Milan this year can be only Inter.
Torino will be relegated to Serie B next year.
So you have made early prediction for the Scudetto and relegation while the league is not even reaching its half season. Coming up to the challenger of Milan, I do believe Juventus is still there and as we all know that it is a soccer league where anything may happen (even in the last few matches). I would say that the current top 5 teams are still on the right track for the Scudetto this season.
I also completely do not understand why only Inter is included in the opponents to Milan, and Juventus on the contrary is excluded from the competition, when Juventus has just defeated Milan in full-time confrontation. All the more so, let's not forget Inter's not-so-successful finish last season, and history has the unpleasant property of sometimes repeating itself at the most inopportune moment.
2687  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: January 09, 2021, 11:01:43 PM
I read that too. That might not be bad for Atletico, take a break. You will have another match at a later stage. It is quite special what Atletico is showing this season. But yes, they now also have Suarez. A lot of experience and still a top striker. Much better than Griezman. In any case, a lot more decisive.
I strongly disagree with your comparisons of Griezmann and Suarez. Griezmann well played Atletico, and was well integrated in the team and that he can not play in Barcelona is a lot of questions to the coaches and the management of the Catalan club and my admiration of the coaching staff Simeone, who perfectly used the finest quality of Griezmann and quietly embedded in the game of Suarez. And let's not forget that Griezmann continues to play well for the French national team.
2688  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Netherlands pilot scheme to allow women to play in senior men's team on: January 09, 2021, 10:39:57 PM
But, I wonder about these words: amateur women, is it really? So what kind of criteria it will be required? How are about the men that have better and better criteria?
But let's see how this rule will be going on and accepted later again
I voted not a chance even if the candidate has a good build-up, he cannot catch up the way man play and she will just a become a wallflower for the team and she cannot be included in the crucial plays of the team, she will just become a target of the opposing team, there will always better candidate for that position for man, instead of taking woman, they have their own league to play.
Then it is better to make the option of a separate mixed league, as in other sports, or even then cancel the league on a gender basis. I have nothing against tolerance, I will say even more that in many cases I agree with such rhetoric, but to promote a woman to the MEN's league is already a bit too much. It is one thing when women work as referees at matches, but it is completely different when it comes directly to the gameplay itself.
2689  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 08, 2021, 11:57:34 PM
One more, De Ligt is positive for Covid  Roll Eyes.
I don't know how Juventus can win this year...
Can you tell us how many Juve players was vaccinated tested positive so far to know how many will risk to be tested positive in the future? Well those who were infected 4 months ago or more risks to contact it again (8 months in some studies).
Juve is unlucky this year and picking the 1st spot will be more than winning the title!
De Ligt is also not always perfect and makes stupid mistakes. I think that it is too early to talk about the number of people infected again after vaccination in the future, because the statistical sample is too small at this point in time, especially since vaccines come in different types and with different effects. Juventus is not so far from the first place and there are still many rounds to talk about the chances of the title and about some heroism, especially after the victory over Milan.
2690  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2020/21 on: January 08, 2021, 11:42:31 PM
well, I wonder which coach would bring good results if he were in barcelona? jose mourinho would bring a style of play completely different from barcelona. I only see guardiola return to be able to recover barcelona, but guardiola would not leave the city
Guardiola might return to Barcelona if he achieves something with City or if everything went to choas there. Dunno about other coaches but he seemed to be the best one to pick Koeman spot.
BTW, nice Villarreal! 4 goals in 30 minutes and up temporarily to the 3rd rank, we will see tomorrow if Barca will claim it back or not Wink
I am not sure that Guardiola will immediately return to Barcelona even if he does not succeed in achieving what he wants in Manchester, rather Messi will go to him in Manchester this summer Wink During his coaching career, Guardiola has established a reputation as a man who does not like to work very long in one place and does not want to return to the old place. I am also not sure that Barcelona's playing style is suitable for a specialist like Mourinho. Most likely, Barcelona will arrange an experiment and after Koeman will invite Xavi.
2691  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: January 08, 2021, 11:29:13 PM
And Bayern lost points like I guessed. Grin  But I must admit that I wasn't expecting them to lose. I was thinking that it could end in a draw. After Bayern got 2-0 ahead with the goals of Lewandowski and Goretzka, Gladbach did a really wonderful job. They managed to equalize the score before the first half ended. And the second half was really lucky for Gladbach. They got just 2 shots and scored a goal. Bayern did everything they can but they were too bad on finishing and Gladbach got a lucky 3-2 win considering especially the second half. But like I said, they did a very nice job in the first half surely.
Before the next match, Hans Dieter Flick will ask Neuer to be the first to concede a goal Wink The current Bayern is much better at dealing with the situation when the opponent opens the score, and then when calmly and methodically, and when not quite, but the Bayern players compare the score and squeeze the opponent. This is the second defeat of Bayern in the championship and the hope that now a good fight and intrigue will begin.
2692  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2020/2021 on: January 08, 2021, 11:12:05 PM
Aston Villa 1- 4 Liverpool
Liverpool played an excellent game, I was surprised by the very good way that liverpool played against Aston Villa, it was a long time since I saw liverpool playing very well as they played in that game. they are to be congratulated and if they play like that against Manchester united then manchester united will be destroyed.
I sincerely hope this is a joke Wink Until the 60th minute of the match, the score was tied 1-1 until the young boys from Aston Villa began to run out of strength and they lost all chances for a favorable outcome within a few minutes. It's fair to say that the leaders of Liverpool were quite respectful of their opponents ' players, without showing homeric joy over their goals scored, but I'm not sure that Manchester United, for example, will also release their little boys against the opponent.
2693  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Floyd Mayweather vs. Logan Paul - February 20 on: January 08, 2021, 11:01:08 PM
We can see that Manny Pacquiao is really eager to have some rematch with Floyd but theyre still trying  to ignore and avoiding it which means they aren't interested anymore with this fight or rematch even if they do know that they can make out tons of money with this match yet majority is been longing for this one.When it comes to exhibition matches then it seems
Floyd is really enjoying this one, he knows that stats wont really be official no matter what would be the outcome and he would be still keeping that unbeatable boxer or no loss in all time.
Some might hate it but it is his own way on making easy money.  Cheesy
Pacquiao can continue to want anything. Aside from his all-consuming desire to make money, Mayweather is currently even more afraid of messing up his win-win statistics because Pacquiao has some chances of winning. Therefore, let the superboy be at stake a lot of money, but Floyd will prefer to earn a lot of smaller amounts using his status as an invincible boxer and no one will be able to do anything about it.
2694  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: January 08, 2021, 10:48:29 PM
Well that is because there was no tennis really going on until now and I think its good to keep the thread active ready for when there are tennis tournaments to talk about.
I'm mostly interested in bigger tournaments then these smaller ones and even though there are some top players playing, I see not much interest in them. Anyway soon most of the top players will need to make their way to Melbourne Australia because they must quarantine for 14 days and with the AO started early February they only have a week at most to make their way to Melbourne and start quarantine.
Some leading tennis players are more leading than others Wink Although most of the leading tennis players will go to Melbourne for quarantine, but for the leading TOP 3 tennis players, both men and women have made an exception and they will go to Adelaide to participate in the exhibition tournament. Jeremy Chardy has already publicly expressed his dissatisfaction with the fact that for the most leading tennis players they make exceptions and exemptions in the quarantine regime.
2695  Other / Archival / Re: ... on: January 07, 2021, 11:57:22 PM
As a speedy review, Bitcoin is more unsafe than the conventional fiat monetary standards. In any case, these two con not be compared since bitcoin isn't a cash it's an resource like gold, oil. With a few esteem. The fiat conventional monetary standards are centralized and controlled by someone while bitcoin isn't . Conventional monetary standards got boundless add up to supply and any central bank can print cash whereas bitcoin isn't .In case the inflation rate fiat monetary standards are losing esteem whereas as you'll see on the advertise bitcoin is getting more important due course of time.
Bitcoin will become over time an increasingly important investment asset for saving money from inflation, and for everything else, fiat standards have been and will remain, because behind all this is the state power. Money without inflation is useful in emergency situations for a short time, in all other cases, reasonable inflation is much more useful, because it helps economic growth.
2696  Economy / Economics / Re: Will India be more progressive in the coming years? on: January 07, 2021, 11:46:21 PM
The government policies seems to be supportive to the cryptocurrency market, at the same time the policy changes can take place anytime. Government has the entire control, it is a big Market and easy to reach the people. If the company have made a big turnover and further if the government isn't satisfied with any of the move surely it'll take possession. Positivity is part of growth, same time the negative also need to be analysed.
India's government policy in recent times regarding cryptocurrencies and bitcoin in particular has been expressed in any blocking, because this, in their opinion, helped to promote the state system of transfers between the population. But the gradual adoption of bitcoin by an increasing number of states should undoubtedly affect the change in the position of the state authorities of India on this issue.
2697  Economy / Economics / Re: NFL Player Salary Paid in Bitcoin on: January 07, 2021, 11:35:50 PM
This is the big news actually, when players start wanting bitcoin as a form of their salary, it means that the circulation of information and also the player's trust in bitcoin increases. and of course management and companies will start to look at how bitcoin can be implemented in a more complex financial system later
When one player wants bitcoin as a payment for their work, this is of course a very significant mass information reason for covering such a fact in the media. But still, a single fact is not a mass trend that can radically change the situation. When it comes to more, then you can expect synergy for the growth of the price and popularity of bitcoin.
2698  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin over 30k on: January 07, 2021, 11:23:25 PM
So from that, it could trigger bitcoin price to increase more than that, and it could invite many more people to come to crypto because of them see the benefits of bitcoin to them. If that happens, bitcoin will break $40k this year, and it could be up to $50k.
Another important reason is the events that have taken place in recent days in the United States and this growth can reach 50 thousand dollars, another question is that when the president-elect enters normally to fulfill his duties, then we can expect a good correction and it is completely unclear from what positions the exchange rate price will gain back its heights, and this can make a big difference.
2699  Economy / Economics / Re: David Rosenber: Bitcoin is in a 'massive bubble' on: December 30, 2020, 11:59:09 PM
It's mind-blowing to me the number of people on these boards who take economist positions and just dismiss them because they don't want to believe that someone who studies economics for a living might know more about economics than they do. Worse than that, your response shows you didn't even understand his point since your critique is you don't think he grasps the idea of a hard-coded limit, and his point is exactly that the hard-coded limit is not absolute and can be changed.  It's kind of implicit in his statement, but it's likely the hard cap limit will be changed because of future unforeseen problems with the diminishing block size. Regardless, his statement that investors "think they know but don't really know about bitcoin's supply curve" is accurate.  However, if you're going to advocate that point you have to take the flip side with gold as well.  We think we know the supply curve for gold, but future space mining could greatly alter the precious metals market in currently unforeseen ways.
I would also add one factor that can change the supply curve of gold and this is the modern philosopher's stone, I mean fairly cheap ways to get artificial gold Wink Just the limit of 21 million is one of the chips of bitcoin and one of the pillars of its existence, thanks to which all modern investment strategies are built, and David Rosenberg unfortunately did not express any serious reasons why these fundamental principles should be violated, except for his fantasies about the protocol.
2700  Economy / Economics / Re: China Economy Forecasted to Surpass US Economy by 2028 on: December 30, 2020, 11:45:59 PM
Man power with all the infrastructure let the China to become the manufacturer hub of this world but since covid attack every country realized that they shouldn't be dependent on one country for everything they import so which resulted in some of the biggest companies moving their plant to other countries. Probably China may surpass US economy in the next few years but I swear that US is not going to let them to make it is easier.
No one claims that the United States will calmly look at how China becomes the number one economy in the world, although it is quite strange when they begin to be surprised and even arrange hysteria about this, that a country with 1.4 billion people can overtake a country with 329 million people. Yet, mathematically, China has four times the population of the United States, and the economic growth rate in recent decades has been several times higher.
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