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2681  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Great way to make Bitcoin! on: December 05, 2016, 09:19:27 PM
I think the best way is to earn from legit faucets. Give some time to earn a litle litle satishis but same time work on several faucets and earn atleast 100K satishi.
After that there are several multipliers and investers which are not scam.
The best one i use to follow investng is aimbtc.
I had checked its authenticity n i reinvested n u can also check scams from scamanalyzer.com
I see waste of precious time for peanuts, I see few people smiling to their banks, while many more are caught crying and cursing. If anyone is indeed interested in making more bitcoin, the first step would be to ignore any advice to go gambling, hyips or ponzi. The express way to lose your coins is to do otherwise!
2682  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can we create investment group? on: December 05, 2016, 08:50:44 PM
   I see that many people here are trying to make profit with trading. I'm afraid to try I admit that, cause of several reasons, but its not important.
   My idea is simple, can we create a group and money that we collect to invest in some trusted trader with good reputation. More people in group will bring more money for investing, profit will be shared and person that trade will get some reward. In the same time this will be huge help for many people here.
   What do you think about this idea?
In forex trade, PAMM would so easily taken care of that, as that is one of the major reasons it was developed, but I strongly doubt if any cryptocurrency brokers is incorporating such features in their platform. Outside of that, I see confusion, lies, envy and jealousy,which eventually would take the wind out of the sail of this ship.
2683  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: December 05, 2016, 08:28:45 PM
I think the answer to this question actually will vary from person to person. In my opinion if you would have got under 500$ then yes it is always a good investment for future. But at this juncture there is little skeptical about the price as from a month almost price is being hovering in 700$ and up and down in this zone so not sure which side it will go in coming time.
It helps to understand where the increments are coming from, that way it becomes easier to analyse if the increments are for real or a flash in the pan. We know bitcoin is a true global currency and readily offers succor to people in countries whose fiat currencies have gone berserk. We have seen that play out in Greece, Venezuela, Russia, and quite recently, India.

Given that the fiat currencies are failing and people are getting frustrated, there is a strong likelihood that the top movement is not ended yet and possibly the $1000/Btc level would most likely be tested again not too long from now. We need to understand though that the trajectory of market price in any financial market is never a straight line, rather it is a series of up and down movement.

  
2684  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: price action trading strategies. on: December 05, 2016, 08:03:26 PM
My best price action reversed or continued trending trading strategies are inside bars or pin bar at the support or resistance level. This two bar give almost 80% accurately signal at support or resistance level. Do your research online and get adequate knowledge on this two price action signal and you will have a new view on currency trading.
Yes this is the basic things you will need to learn first if you do want to trade with high chance precision since hitting the resistance and support level do have chance to bounce back but its not guaranteed to work anytime because breakouts and explosions do really happen and it depends on the market situation.If you do trade on forex then you could always see this but on crypto world i do seldom see this stuff.
Seems to me you singled out support and resistance strategy out of the price action strategy OP was looking at! I know price action strategy readily converts to profits, because it is not a lagging indicator/tool as many others in technical analysis and combining it with support and resistance levels, makes it almost a sure fire. However this strategy is not good enough for every trader, it is well suited for those traders that have eyes for details, tons on patience and sound risk and money management.

One thing worthy of note about support and resistance levels is that, the market tests them more than once before finally breaking out. Armed with such a knowledge would give a trader a better understanding when to buy or sell, when to let go or to keep holding on,
2685  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What’s your hidden reason for becoming a trader? on: December 05, 2016, 07:37:40 PM
Hidden reason for becoming a trader? Actually its almost public that reason behind anyone to choose to become trader like;
1. you can set your own time of working/trading.
2. you can take holidays solely on your own decision.
3. you will be your own boss.
4. If you are elite trader you can actually make what others make in one whole day working hard in few hours with some click of mouse.  Grin
I think OP should have asked, "What is your main reason for becoming a trader?" My response would have been everything above plus the fact that trading enables me to work from virtually anywhere, greatly reduces my overhead, staff and accommodation and without affecting profitability. Trading when approached the right way can hand over fortunes to a trader than could many years of working for other people.
2686  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Money Management Principle in bitcoin and altcoin Trading on: December 05, 2016, 07:09:53 PM
I have been trading forex for a while now, one subject in forex trading that I  don't want to talk about is money management or risk management. Most time I want to double my capital in a month and because of this I will not follow money management principles. I loss a lot and most at times my entire capital wap out. My question is what is money management?

you don't have to not do money management in order to make more money.
it all comes down to your skills in managing everything from your emotions to money and risks.

if you start taking well thought risks then you start succeeding. a well though risks is something that you do a little research about and see if the reward is bigger than the risks you are taking and also you have to see all the angles, like what could go wrong and what are the chances of that.

and after all this you have to think about exit strategy meaning what you are going to do if something went wrong like price drop.
All what you pointed above revolves around risk and money management, so what do you mean by first saying you don't have to do money management in order to make more money? To become a skillful and profitable trader, risk and money management is inevitable, because any trading decision taken outside of these two always lead to loss and most times, an entire account is wiped out
2687  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How to make 1 bitcoin in a month or 2? on: December 05, 2016, 03:09:13 PM
Hi, I am looking for a way to earn some money without invest(because I am broke), I can dedicate 2 hours a day in that. what can I do to make a bitcoin per month without any investment?
If you have capital to start for. You can try gambling or trading it's possible to earn it there but it's too risky too and need high capital. But without capital no it's not possible you can earn it but it takes more time to have it.
Though it is not impossible to stand up to a casino when one is having a very deep pocket,but you will discover that it would actually take a limitless amount to be able to stand up to a casino and some gambling sites can actually be funny when high rolls are involved. I think  outright rigging would be more like it. Go to any casino and try going through the profiles of players in random and you won't miss to notice, over 95% of players are having negative balances and you may want to ask, what is responsible for that?

Here we, must add that gambling is for fun, so if we must gamble, we have to do so with only money we can afford to lose, even though the best way to win in gambling is to not gamble at all.
2688  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: December 05, 2016, 02:46:32 PM
In my opinion, Bitcoin is the best investment at the moment. I will consider investing in some good altcoins in the future, like Monero, but at the moment I believe Bitcoin is the best cryptocurrency to hold.

Yes bitcoin is the best investment for the types of crypto currency. And my investment has a lot more funded for holding it.

But still I have some of my investments backing up and supporting my needs with trading.

And if you want to join some legit and trusted ICO's you may try to invest with Betking. Just click my signature.
No reason to argue about bitcoin as being the best investment because it's pretty obvious now base on the profitability ratio. Some investment could be less risky but the reward is not as big as bitcoin can offer us, so for small investors we have to gamble for bitcoin for bigger reward.

Gambling is not really a good way to invest your money though. It will just eat up your coins and spit misery. Unless you gamble using faucet dust why not? It's safer to use the money elsewhere than gamble it. I learned this the hard way. I lost more than two Bitcoin trying to get back what I lost. I first thought it was a good investment, until I ended up with nothing to show for it.
At least you learned your lesson some people never learn and they keep chasing money they are over going to recover, so you may take that as an expensive lesson on the dangers of gambling.

Yes, gambling is not guaranteed to give us bigger rewards or profit. That's why instead of gambling your own bitcoins that doesn't have assurance.

You can simply invest with the house and be their investor that will make you in favor of the house.
And you don't need to gamble.

Just like holding of bitcoins, you don't need to do some actions. You need to simply wait for the profit that the site will generate.
There are no guarantees either with investing in the bankroll of a casino, because often times, there are players with extraordinary luck and there are some too with very deep pockets. These type of players leave the house bleeding most often than not and which boils down to eat away chunk of investors money. I have seen a situation, where an investor actually lost it all, because some randy player came along.
2689  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How candlestick analysis. on: December 05, 2016, 02:23:27 PM
There are lot of online resources are available for learning candlestick patterns. Fortunately on my own interest I learned candlestick analysis and I am using it for my bitcoin trading. But not that useful with altcoin trading in my experiences.
I also trade forex, so candlesticks and formations, I must say are one of the foundations every trader ought to acquire. Each candlestick or a group of it is telling a story about the market, so even in altcoin trading, it can be useful for detecting market reversal, breakouts, ranging markets, etc.

It needs be said however, that candlestick patterns and formations are lagging in the market information they give, so combining them with other indicators would be a much better way to approach the market. We can appreciate the beauty of candlesticks when we trade base on price action and trendlines.
2690  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading like professional. on: December 05, 2016, 02:02:38 PM
Pro traders doesn't always win still, this is why they stick to BTC because this coin always win. if you are talking about FOREX then thats more complicated due to each county's economy.
Bitcoin like any currency has ups and downs and if you are unable to predict the movements then you are going to lose money, so no if you trade with bitcoin you are not going to always win, although it is a good investment.
You are always going to win if you have little patience along with some healthy bankroll because the ups lasts longer in bitcoins than the downs and hence what we all need to do when the price is low is just wait for a while.
I have given loss due to my impatience earlier and hence I know this.
The cryptocurrency market is still young, so for now your approach might seem right, but as time goes and the market stabilizes, you will discover that you may never get to win all trade and some might want to take forever to turn profit. For instance, if you had bought BTC in 2013, when the price hit over $1000, by now you would still be angry with yourself for such a rash decision.
2691  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: cooperation play altcoin market poloniex and bittrex on: December 05, 2016, 01:34:41 PM
Sound more like you are talking about private pumper group to manually pump some low volume coin to scam others. You need to have really high bankroll as well as have to use some bots to automate whole trading process but there is also risk of lossing so much if some big bag holder of that coin came to know that the coin he is holding is pumping without any reason, he will just load his coin and dump on peak price before you and your group start selling.  Grin

Many scam coin developer are actually using same strategy you are talking about many times to dump their shit coins on newbie traders.
You just summarized what the OP meant to say - a group of private pumpers and dumpers. Might sound interesting and profitable, but it is unfortunate and an attempt to scam others and that is not what this community stands for. At any rate, it won't get anywhere unless he has tons of coin to be able to jolt the market or if there are a number of whales sharing his dream. In place of that, I would suggest looking into arbitrage trading as there seems to be lot of rooms for that.
2692  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you always missed the right time to sell/buy bitcoin? on: December 05, 2016, 12:58:44 PM
So many repeat the trader mantra" sell high and buy low" but how many really hit the peaks and troughs?
The trader mantra is rightly, "buy low, sell high," but the question begging for answer is, what price is low and what price is high? As simple as that question seems, it would take knowledgeable and experienced trader to tell a price apart from another, because in a financial market, there is often no bottom or top price. Prices are continually changing in reaction to market forces.

Over the years traders and mathematicians have come up with tools to enable our detect when a market reversal is by the corner and many skillful traders have been adapting them to signal buying and selling points in the market. My preference is the combination of Bollinger Bands and RSI, it gives me a clearer picture of over bought and over sold market conditions and guide my trading decisions instead of making mere guess work.
2693  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What Is Bitcoin Trading and Why It's risky? on: December 05, 2016, 06:16:11 AM
trading depends on your skills,experience, market knowledge etc.You also need a bit of luck to be succeeded in trading.And you can't always gain profit from trading, sometimes market price will fall down and you will lose your capital.That's why it's risky.So,we should take that amount of btc to do trading which we can afford to lose.
i agree with you that trading is depend on skill and if you are expert in trading then we can be get a good profit from trading and there is many expert traders and they earning bitcoin in huge amount through trading without risks because they have a good knowledge about trading and the are expert in trading.
There are no risk free way of trading and making profit, experience and skill only gives a trader the edge to a vintage point to approach the market. let no one be deceived by all those claiming to be professional traders and making consistent profit in the market, because if they really do, they won't be looking for avenue to sell signals.

To become a successful trader, one has to go through the process of understanding what the market is saying at any point in time and not depend on others suggestions.
2694  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: you need to overcome your fear of losing money on: December 04, 2016, 08:56:21 PM
Losing is part of successfully trading. If you treat losing as part of trading then you are an experienced trader.
The sounds like lose were becoming an obligation. And I will never win if I never lose.
I think it is rather that losing, most likely, would wake up the ideas of a trader that sets out to become a profitable trader. It compels a trader to reevaluate his/her stand in every trading decision they set out to take. Experienced and inexperienced traders alike, encounter loses from time to time in the forex market, what makes the difference is that experienced traders endeavor to win more than they lose.
2695  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Forex Trading on: December 04, 2016, 07:32:39 PM
I just read some article about Forex trading. I read that 90% of traders in Forex Fail or lose their money and 10% are succeed and make a large profit.

I am just wondering if the Forex is better that C-cex  because as far as I know Forex is using Real amount rather a Real money and at C-cex is altcoins. So do you think trying the luck in Forex can make a profit or just stay at bitcoin trading? Luck and strategy is needed but what do you think is safer C-cex or Forex?

C-cex and Forex are same in some aspect so what? Cryptocurrency or real money?

The 90% of the people are the ones that think they can make a profit. The 10% of the people are the ones that know they'll lose if they fucked up. The 10% are taking all their profits from the other 90% of people who lost.

Crypto exchanges and forex both trade currencies, so yes, in some aspects they are the same. However forex is quite regulated while crypto not at all.
The major difference lies on the fact that forex trade is leveraged, while cryptocurrency is not, that is why it is possible to earn as well as lose so much more at once with forex trade. Also swaps are rare in cryptocurrency trade since traders need not to borrow or lend to trade. Overall, the psychology needed to handle forex trade cannot be gotten from trading cryptocurrencies, but being versed in forex trade can make a huge difference in profitability with cryptocurrency trade.
2696  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading like professional. on: December 04, 2016, 05:40:08 PM
To be a skilled trader you have to endure a lot of losses first and learn from your experiences, but one advise that is always very effective in knowing where prices will go is watching out for news and latest economic calendars.
The truth is that you don't have to subject yourself to lots of losses to become a skillful trader as the best way to learn a thing is from other people's experiences, wait to learn from your experience might end up a fatal experiment. Good news is that there are many useful sites and resources online and that are even free to get you on your way to successful trading only time and patience is highly needed, unfortunately so many people are having them in short supply.

My suggestion is first to learn to trade forex in places like babypips, forex factory,etc to familiarize yourself with technical analysis tools and terms like, support and resistance, trendline, pivots, overbought and oversold conditions, etc and you will be standing better chance spotting when to buy or sell cryptocurrencies.
2697  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin send the IRS to the moon? on: December 04, 2016, 04:38:17 PM
The IRS has a job to do, and we have to accept the fact that there are two things that you would never avoid.. Death & Taxes. If you are a

good citizen, you will pay your damn taxes and go on with your life. If you decide to use Bitcoin to avoid taxes, then you deserve to look over

your shoulder every day, because they will hunt you down... to take their cut. I would rather pay the damn taxes and not have to worry, when

they are going to burst through the door to arrest me for tax evasion.  Angry
Are people really bothered about taxing their bitcoin transactions or the ploy of the IRS for monitoring and reporting to the slave masters about people's finances? Bitcoin does not represent the interest of the governments and their agents and they would rather the last is heard of it, only it was a dark horse and they really did not see it coming.

At any rate, Coinbase does not speak for the Bitcoin community, which is already a vast and borderless community. To the IRS and their masters, this is what John F. Kennedy would have suggested to them,“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
2698  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If bitcoin died tomorrow on: December 04, 2016, 03:51:33 PM
It's pretty much like a domino game. If it died tomorrow, would you trust any altcoin? You wouldn't, many people would not do that either.  Bitcoin's fall = cryptocurrencies' fall because Bitcoin's like their mother. If US would fail, wouldn't pretty much the whole world fail too? If Euro/USD would fail, wouldn't all the others fail too? Same goes with Bitcoin too.
You have a point and you are correct it will really affect all altcoin if bitcoin will die tomorrow and people will surely lost its trust on all cryptocurrencies because on what happen to bitcoin but for now i dont think so that it will die easily as long people will use it then it will become stronger day by day and adoption cant be stopped .
I also agree there a point in saying Bitcoin represents all cryptocurrencies and so whatsoever especially odd that happens to it would definitely water down to all other coins. In the case of Bitcoin dying tomorrow, it would take almost everything to be able to bring that to pass and if ever, an offspring of Bitcoin, more sophisticated is sure to arise to occupy that position.

One question that must be asked though is, what is going to kill Bitcoin, many governments have tried futile and now looking for ways to bend blockchain technology, which is the strength of Bitcoin, to see things their crooked ways.

2699  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does bitcoin help your life in daily needs? on: December 04, 2016, 03:28:41 PM
No bitcoins don't help me in my daily life but it only help me o keep my faucet alive and my faucet earning helps me in my daily life.
This is only connection of Bitcoin in my life.
Looks like you are falling to realize that it is indeed Bitcoin that is in the background helping you out in your daily life, because it is standing in the position of the source? As for me, the emergence of bitcoin have attracted lots of businesses, of which one is an exchange company that have handed me the key to anytime and almost instantly buy bitcoin with my local currency or turn my earnings online, including fiats without having to wait for the high limits and delays placed by the exchange companies we were having until recently.
2700  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Please teach me how to grow my bitcoin on: December 04, 2016, 02:30:03 PM
I'm growing mine by joining signature campaigns and spending my spare time on this forum. It's a nice way to earn some extra pocket money that I could use for various things. A good option could be creating your own blog with Bitcoin ads or shortened Bitcoin URLs, that could get you a lot of income if you get enough visits a month!
That is probably the riskless way to grow your bitcoin, because the tendency that one gets paid is quite high for as long as quality of posts are not compromised. Every suggestion made about gambling sites is a death wise, because the matter is already decided that your money will end in the fat pockets of the house. Better to build one's activity here, as the level and rank, is actually what determines what members participating in a campaign gets and the competition everyday is on the increase.

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