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2681  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: November 02, 2023, 02:20:17 PM
Real Madrid is not completely safe from leading the standings even though they currently have several points ahead of Barcelona. Girona are level on points with Real Madrid, as are Atletico Madrid if they win their postponed match. Game by game it will be tough for all the teams although for now Real Madrid, Girona and Atletico Madrid look unstoppable, but yes they may still drop points in some of their other games in November or December.
I can not predict the possible outcome of the present La  Liga Champions, we're still watching. I'm finding it interesting to watch La Liga games, because every clubs are competing with their best performance, there's strong challenge among teams. Real Madrid is sitting top of the La Liga table with 28 points, the exact same point with Girona. I don not consider the stats or possibility of Girona surpassing Los Blancos on the table, Girona won't survived among big teams, they just have this morale to boost at the moment, but lacking the consistent qualities to compete in the long race for long-term.
It's too early to talk about who will win La Liga this season. Real Madrid may be the leaders, but there are still a lot of games left in the season and it's still a long way to go.
Girona is a club that is unexpectedly in the ranks of clubs that are used to being there, I don't know if they will be that consistent to be a contender for the big clubs. There is usually a drop off as the season draws to a close and that could very well be the case for Girona this season. We have a long way to go to see who will be consistent.
2682  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: November 02, 2023, 01:33:26 PM
Now it seems there is not a good relationship between Neymar and Al Hilal, the Saudis invested lots of money in this Brazilian player and now he is going to be absent for the whole season and this will definitely damage the team but he wants to go to Brazil and do the surgery in his own country also he wants to stay there while he is getting recovered while Al Hilal is not agreed and they want him to stay in Saud Arabia.
Since he suffer long term injury, I wonder what Al Hilal will do with Neymar, obviously Neymar will still appear in Al Hilal social media because they can't just spent money and get nothihng. If he can't play, at least he should become a brand ambassador since he has a big exposure.
I will not blame Al Hilal for signing Neymar, but did they not consider beforehand that this player has a history of recurring injuries? This should have been their consideration from the start, because after all it will hurt them when after spending a lot of money, but the player cannot play and contribute to the team, especially since his injury is expected to take a very long time even until the end of this season.
Al Hilal have taken that risk from the start, and they should be able to accept it when it comes now.
2683  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: November 02, 2023, 12:16:13 PM
We are going to start this game week with a Bologna - Lazio game tomorrow night. Lazio are slightly favourite on paper but bookmakers are also emphasizing that Lazio's job will be really difficult here. Bologna have been really a big challenge for Lazio in away games in the recent years. We can understand this easily from Bologna's winning and drawing two times each in their last four head-to-heads here.

Bologna's home record has been really good in this season as well so far. I would never trust Lazio to win this game honestly. I even doubt both teams will score after the analysis. Instead I would rather try my luck with both teams to score - no.  Smiley
I see these two clubs as evenly matched in terms of strength, they don't differ much in terms of scoring or defense, in the standings they are also very close. I think this match will end with a draw and no winner. But of course there are things that must be considered in a match like this. Luck sometimes affects the game for both Bologna and Lazio.
Bologna is favored because they will play a home match in this match. As the host usually a club will get more motivation. It's risky to bet on either club, but we'll see.
2684  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: November 02, 2023, 10:37:02 AM
Bayern Munich was totally surprised by the performance of Saarbrücken, I think Tuchel was not expecting to see his team losing this game against a weak team like Saarbrücken because Bayern Munich has much better and stronger players than this team.
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This was a completely unexpected result. Munich  probably never imagined that they would lose  against a team as weak as Sarbrücken. To be honest,  I don't know the Saarbrucken team. I have never seen  this team perform before.

Munich did  not play badly in this match. But Sarbrücken was very lucky. They managed to score two goals against Bayern Munich  despite playing a completely  defensive strategy. Saarbrücken's  players had a total of 4 shots i n this match, while Munich had 18 and 7 on target. Even  then they could not score  more than  one goal. However, Tuchel is not too interested in the DFB Pokal. Munich fans will be happy  if Bayern Munich can maintain their champions league and  bundesliga dominance.

Yes of course and I think everyone who watched this match will also be surprised by the final result of this match, honestly I am also like you I don't really know much about the Saarbrucken team and their career, so I don't really know if they are really strong enough to beat the defending Bundesliga champions.

I will not say that Bayern Munich performed poorly in this match, because clearly the statistics have shown that the difference between these two clubs is quite far, as you said Bayern Munich is superior to statistical data, Bayern Munich has fired 18 times and 7 of them are on target while Saarbrucken only 4 shots and two of them are on target, so this is quite a difference. And maybe I conclude that Saarbrucken's victory is nothing more than luck or it could also be Bayern Munich who are not too concerned and interested in the DFB Pokal, because on the other hand Tuchel's focus is only on the Bundesliga and UCL in my opinion.
2685  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Beginner needs your advices in gambling. on: November 02, 2023, 10:16:38 AM
I’m a new member here, and I want to gamble on online casinos. I found some good trusted casinos. And I want to begin with a game with a low budget. First, I need your suggestions about the best games, slots. Live casino for a beginner.
Do you think Me starting gambling would effect me in my real life or make me addicted to gambling. What’s you suggestion and advices.
My advice is to pick the right casino for you to play by reading reviews and feedback about these casinos, and after you've picked the right casinos then read and understand the terms of service of the casino you are about to play, this is your while playing in the casino, and once you start playing be sure your focus is in enjoying the game and not on making money.
If you change your mindset to making money then you will be disappointed because casinos are not the place to make money, it's very tempting to try to make money from gambling, but this is the only thing that you should watch, enjoy the game and only play with money that you can afford to lose.

Yes choosing a good and trusted casino will be able to make us more comfortable in our gambling involvement, I will not suggest what games are good or can provide big wins because of course all games in casinos depend on your luck about winning, so I think you can choose for yourself what games you like and of course use your feelings in choosing them. Well agree, if you have entered the game do not think about anything especially making money, but just focus on the beautiful spin in the game, do not care about the results because if at that time you are lucky then you can also go home with a win.

Of course if they change their mindset by gambling for income then I'm sure they will be disappointed with their own expectations, because it is clear that in gambling usually defeat will be more often than victory, so you have to really bring the mindset for fun so as not to get upset and emotional, use the smallest possible money so you don't get hurt with the answer at the end of the round, that's all I think.
2686  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: November 02, 2023, 09:47:40 AM
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I definitely agree with this.

It's really important to be firm on your goal before entering gambling industry. If you only want to gamble for fun, set limitations so that you won't get addicted in the process of betting in playing. Remember your obligations and responsibilities not only as a gambler, but being a person in general. If you already have a family, always remember to put them first. Your duties as a parent and as a spouse will come before gambling, which means that you must take care of your household above anything else before indulging on your gambling habits. This is to avoid having problems and challenges regarding financial matters because let's admit, gambling involves money, and money matter is a serious one since it can affect relationships, lifestyle, and well-being.

Losses can be managed if you are disciplined - you'll know when to stop. So rather impulsively chasing the winning prize or trying to recover your many losses, do risk assessment first to know whether it's worth the hassle and money.
Gambling must have limits so that we can be responsible gamblers and not exceed what we can afford. But everything will change when we have a family because our focus should be on family and not gambling, but unfortunately, this is not a concern for many gamblers out there. They gamble more and more often because they want to make more money from gambling, so they decide to gamble. But those who have such intentions will not have a big chance because they will experience more defeats. If they don't immediately realize it, they will only regret it, especially if they end up using the money for their family. They will no longer be able to meet their family's needs because all their money has been used for gambling.

That is why we have to learn to control ourselves as well as possible because if not, we will not be able to control ourselves when gambling. And when we lose, we will not be able to stop gambling and can instead try to recover from losses, which will never be easy to achieve.

Agree with your statement, basically there is no other preventive measure that every gambler should do except trying as much as possible to apply their limits, so that they can be a responsible gambler by accepting all the results at the end of the session, don't put a budget that you can't afford to lose or I mean you can't be responsible because obviously the impact you will be upset and not accept the bad results. Therefore I also often advise some of my friends to put a budget as small as possible or whatever it is important if the end result is not as expected it will not be a problem for them and they can remain fine with a calm mind. Especially if you are married, you should really take action to reduce your gambling, because of course if not then you will experience a lot of financial problems in the family. I think maybe the reason why those who are married go into gambling is because they want to multiply their money because they want to increase family finances, but they are wrong because there is no guarantee at all to win and end up regretting it. Therefore, I hope they can think more clearly in seeing this gambling.

That's right, because it is only self-control that can help us not to lose a large amount of money, which is better.
2687  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Health Benefits of Gambling on: November 02, 2023, 09:18:09 AM
I like the idea of improving mood and relieving from stress, what really makes sense, since we are talking about an entertaining activity, and entertaining activities in general are supposed to cause these positive effects on us. That is why people are performing them.

But about gaining more self-confidence, that is, the capacity of taking risks, I think there are better methods to develop that without having to risk your money, your finances. The risks taken by gamblers are more related to irresponsible and impulsive behaviors, which are never good.

Gambling will really benefit a person when they apply the concept of gambling as it should be, like for example thinking of gambling as just entertainment then yes of course like you said to improve the mood and relieve a little stress. I think this will really be felt when the person is able to understand gambling and always not overdo it, for those who understand that this is nothing more than an entertainment activity then they will definitely feel this kind of benefit, honestly I will not bring those who are already addicted to this discussion because this is a different story and contrary to the mindset of those who are already addicted.

I think about this increase in confidence it depends on their respective choices, some train confidence by trying to take risks such as gambling and also some prefer to find other alternatives that have little or no risk. True, gambling does show the character and behavior of someone who usually will not be responsible for what they have decided before, too desperate because they think there is a big chance but what happens is unexpected, and that is impulsive.
2688  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cash out or keep playing? on: November 02, 2023, 08:46:59 AM
Yes that's right, for the problem of bad results, they usually won't want or be ready to accept it but for the problem of winning they are very ready, I mean those who are addicted to applying greed always think and imagine that the final result will win even though the session has not ended and there has not been any answer, so what is the reason you or they always think positively about winning when the final result has not answered. Therefore, as I said earlier, it is very important for anyone (gambler) to think rationally and understand gambling rules, especially about luck, by understanding this then I think they will not overthink the victory, because there really is no certainty, you or they will only be able to laugh or smile when the final result has really answered "you won", or even vice versa.

I think this is very important to note, because by being rational you will know what really happened and what should be done. Yes, the key is to be grateful that it is true, there is no reason to put greed because there is no guarantee to win more, it will make you a responsible gambler.
That is if they can accept whatever the result is because that is what they will receive in gambling, but indeed, most people will not want to accept the result if they lose and will go back to gambling until they finally win. But to win it again requires more money because they don't know when they will win, whereas they can lose more from playing gambling again. This is where they have to think carefully that if they have won, they should stop gambling first to think about whether they can continue gambling or whether they have had enough and choose to stop gambling. If they decide to stop, they can see how much money they have won so that if they have reached the minimum withdrawal limit, they should immediately withdraw it and only leave a little money in their gambling account to gamble another day.

Yes, being rational can make us think about what to do but that will come back to each person. Maybe they can't accept that they lost, but they should be able to start accepting the reality so they won't think about recovering their losses. Thus, they can become responsible gamblers.

Starting from understanding and if you really understand about gambling and especially luck then I think it is not difficult for them to become responsible gamblers by accepting all the results at the end of the session. So with that, they will not be too upset if they end up losing because they really understand and realize that in that session someone else might be much luckier than them. Basically, whether you are addicted or just a beginner, you will still be able to get a victory, but provided that luck comes, so does defeat. You will not be able to manage the victory because obviously everything returns to the luck of each - each. That's right, so if you've managed to get a win then it's better to leave, I'm also always like that, leave and then enjoy the money from the winnings and leave a little for gambling next time.

Yes, it's truee that it will come back to each of them, maybe some can apply a rational point of view and some are selfish. So it's simple in my opinion that if you really don't want to lose a large amount of money then you should follow some of these suggestions,, but if you don't care about your safety and finances then just do whatever you want and wait I'm sure you will regret it...
2689  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: November 01, 2023, 05:48:27 PM
Sadio Mane's goal in extra time send Al-Nassr into the quarter-finals of the King Cup of Champions. It's unfortunate that despite his goal being crucial in helping Al-Nassr qualify for the next level, the media hasn't given him much praise. I really enjoyed Mane's performance, as well as the strong defense from Al-Nassr. It's clear there's good teamwork going on. The combination and influence of Sadio, Ronaldo, and Talisca in Al-Nassr is significant. Although Talisca will be absent in the upcoming games due to his red card, the combination of Sadio and Ronaldo might help them overcome the challenges.
With the presence of good players, there's no limitations to what the team can achieve. Their previous encounter was difficult; Talisca was conveyed a red card during the game, which I believe was an unfair decision made by the referee, but everything was restored when Al Nassr lead 1 nil in part due to a magnificent goal from Sadio Mané. Al Nassr's squad is potentially fatal, and only a competitive team will be able to take them down. Al Nassr has their eyes focused on another trophy this season, having secured a place in the Quarterfinals, and I'm hoping for the Knights of Najd to reach the main grand finale.
Sadio Mane was a nightmare for Al Ettifaq with the only goal he scored in the extra period, in the 107th minute. It was a tough match with neither side wanting to lose the match. Talisca had to shower early after he was shown a red card at the end of the first half. But Al Ettifaq couldn't capitalize on their numerical advantage until they were reduced to 10 men after Ali Hazazi was shown a red card at the end of the second half. In the extra period both clubs were down to 10 men and that was a big advantage for Al Nassr.
Congratulations to Al Nassr for winning this tight match.
2690  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: November 01, 2023, 12:21:36 PM
Football is played on the field and although Bayern Munich is the favorite of many right now, Dortmund is a team that can win this match. They had a great win against Newcastle United. Considering that both teams came well rested, it will definitely be an enjoyable match for us to watch. The result of the Bayern-Dortmund match will directly affect the position in the league. I'm sure Leverkusen will follow the result of this match with curiosity.
Every one is having his own review and analysis of games and teams with this all I have feeling there is no doubt about Bavarians are best in Bundesliga and Borussia Dortmund is always their challenger but with completely different mind-set Bayern Munich mean win trophies and having the best quality players and Borussia Dortmund mean buying big players and after some polish sells them to big clubs for the higher price which is giving them good profit many times they were near to win the title but luck and their own mistakes stop them from doing this.

Now again we are going to have another interesting encounter which will have good entertainment and good chance for the home team to beat them and jump at the second spot with this defeat Bayern Munich can go at 4th spot which will create more action and entertainment in coming weeks for the Bundesliga viewers around the world.

I think they should be an easy win for Bayern Munich. There is no reason for them to end up losing. If we look at the last 5 head to head matches between these two teams we will see that Bayern Munich has been the team to win 4 out of the matches and the other one was a draw. So I think Bayern Munich is going to go into this match being very confident. But at the same time, Dortmund should be very determined to win this match because of what happened in the last season. If that does not get the blood boiling for them, I don't know what will.

On the other hand this is a very awaited match and will certainly attract a lot of spectators, as we know almost every season these two rivals between Bayern Munich and Dortmund always compete fiercely in terms of trophy hunting, so this will really be a very interesting match in the middle of the season. For the problem of who wins and is favored, yes, I also have no doubt at all to say that Bayern Munich has a greater chance if we look at the head to head statistics in the last five matches. But on the other hand I also won't be too confident in this assumption because lately Dortmund also look better, they are able to crawl up and none other than that because they have pretty good consistency too.

It looks like Dortmund have prepared a lot of things from afar for this match, because after all they must have avenged their failure last season when they almost won the trophy but apparently luck was still on the side of Tuchel's squad. So for who will go home with full points I can't be sure but the point is true in the current conditions Bayern Munich has a pretty good chance even though Dortmund will not make the match go easily, we'll see.
2691  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Health Benefits of Gambling on: November 01, 2023, 12:03:09 PM
Gambling may be able to train us to remain disciplined in gambling so that we can prevent ourselves from problems in gambling. But it won't work if we don't have self-control from before we start gambling because when we don't have it, we can easily get deeper into gambling and in the end we will become addicted to gambling. This has happened to many people who previously did not gamble very often and because they lost self-control and were unable to become responsible gamblers, they became more likely to gamble more often. This is what we must be aware of and avoid because we have seen what happens to those who lose themselves. Maybe there is still a lot more that we need to prepare to become responsible gamblers and it will depend on how we can use gambling properly.

Yes maybe that can be said a little of the benefits of gambling for ourselves, as you said we can practice discipline in gambling and if we can apply it there then in other things too maybe we will be quite easy to repeat the same discipline. Let's get into the discussion, of course if you can't apply good self-control then obviously you will suffer a lot of losses there with the amount you never expected, if you don't pay attention to preparations such as limits in gambling then I'm sure you will continue to go further and further in your gambling involvement, it can happen consciously and unconsciously.

And also if you have experienced addiction especially about winning then I will confirm that they have entered the stage of real addiction, it can happen unconsciously, and also yes as you said even though for example you gamble just for pleasure but I say it does not rule out the possibility that you can get into addiction unconsciously, so often gambling it is very possible. Yes exactly, we have to be more vigilant and careful, in my opinion this is a dangerous place for anyone, because if you are careless and uncontrollable then obviously addiction will be waiting for you. Therefore, we must look at various sides before finally entering.
2692  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: November 01, 2023, 11:31:38 AM
The greatest medicine for a gambler is their own pursuit. If a gambler can't control himself, I don't know if any other medicine will work for him. Because in this era, if the gambler does not share his gambling activities with others, then there is no chance for others to know. Besides, no one else is needed to take such initiative. In this context, I can say that the gambler's own efforts act as the major medicine for the gambler's addiction and recovery. If the gambler has the intention , he can certainly control himself.
Addiction is very dangerous, once a gambler is addicted, he easily liquidate accounts. Using our initiatives often save us from heavy losses and boost our chances of winnings. Gamble responsibly is for those category of gamblers that know what they're doing and the kind of profits they're looking. We are held to the possible outcomes of our actions regarding the system. Gambling without implementing the disciplinary measures will only make one to become more open to losses from gambling, and I tell you this for free, you wouldn't wish to go down that path.

Of course, because it is the peak point where every gambler will experience a lot of downturns, whether in terms of financial, mental and psychological will definitely be affected.  True, if someone has experienced addiction, especially with a high level, they will not consider anything in their gambling involvement, they will do everything possible just for the sake of gambling, and what is feared is that they are very likely to do things that are out of control such as stealing, none other than all of that they do just for the sake of gambling and satisfying their lust.

Yes, although responsibility is very important to do but basically if someone has entered the addiction zone then they will be very difficult to be able to do such responsibilities, they will always be emotional and angry when the final result is not in accordance with what is desired. I'm not sure if this is a good idea, but it's a good thing because this is one of the important things that all gamblers should pay attention to, as you said, one of them is that we must be really disciplined, because that's the only thing that can make you not too bad in losses, or can reduce your chances of losing.
2693  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can loneliness make one addicted to gambling on: November 01, 2023, 10:48:04 AM

Yes quite agree with your assumption, honestly I don't know what that person was thinking that he could get into gambling so easily, but it might be because of the pressure of their situation that finally concluded that they had to gamble, and also yes I can't fully justify my opinion on this because of course there are many other things they can do to just look for fun to take their mind off their problems with his wife. I guess there may be some other factors that ultimately make them choose to gamble, it could be that they are very familiar with the gambling environment around them or simply that many of their friends like to gamble, so that when they are depressed due to personal problems then they divert their minds to activities that will only add to the problem.

Yes, it is true that everyone has their own character and they also have their own way of solving their problems along with finding peace when in such conditions. But yes I also can't fully blame them because they do that as a result of their chaotic mind, and maybe in my opinion it's better before you do something you have to consider it first, gambling is not an alternative to solving problems like you said but will only add new problems, that's for sure friends.
People who are experiencing problems in their lives may not be able to just tell other people so they will feel lonely in their lives so it is possible that lonely people will engage in activities beyond common sense such as gambling, drugs, alcohol, and so on. They consider this activity to be entertainment, even though it is only entertaining for a short time. Even though it has been proven, many people are confused and feel lonely in their lives, but if they continue to carry out activities such as gambling, drugs and drinking alcohol, the problems in their lives will not be immediately resolved but will instead become increasingly difficult to resolve. because the majority of these people do not use common sense. just using your mind because you want to be entertained even if only for a moment.
And what you say is true, if people experience something like that, it would be better to balance it with a healthy mind so that the aim is not to add new problems to their lives.

Yes it is possible, and in my opinion it also really depends on the character of each person too, because some are closed and some are quite open by telling some of their problems to other people such as the closest people maybe or family, and if indeed they are one of the people who are closed about all their affairs, especially the problems they are experiencing then it is very likely that they will feel lonely, Especially when facing problems, and with that some possibilities to do uncontrollable things are very likely they do there, the emotional impulse and pressure from the situation is quite large, and with such conditions it is only natural that uncontrollable things they will do because emotions will not be able to make a consideration.

Gambling, alcohol or drugs is one of the things that they are more likely to do in such a depressed state, it is true that they do it because they want the pleasure effect of these actions that will make them forget about their problems a little, but on the other hand it is really not recommended, and in fact as you said it will only add to the problem. Of course, one of the things that can be used as a preventive measure is to try to always think consciously, because then I'm sure there will be good enough consideration, so that the situation does not get worse.
2694  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cash out or keep playing? on: November 01, 2023, 10:28:38 AM
It doesn't matter if they want to apply such greed in their gambling but on the other hand the question is whether you or they are ready if the results are worse and that you never imagined before? I'm sure they don't want that to happen, so try to think more rationally in looking at gambling, I hope when you try to be greedy they have to think first and consider what risks can befall them when they do that, don't just think about the big win, because obviously as we know there is no guarantee that you can win. While on the other hand the casino creates a system so that defeat always befalls gamblers, so I think as you said that action will only increase your chances of suffering.

I think thinking more rationally will make you at least reach a pretty good awareness before finally committing greed and ending up regretting it. Well right, I agree with you, it's better to be grateful for the results of our winnings, regardless of the amount because it might be difficult for other people to be in a position like us.
Many of them are not ready to accept the results because they also don't think about whether they will lose more than before and will instead spend the winnings they have previously obtained. If they could think rationally, of course, they would not take too big a risk and would stop gambling and withdraw their winnings because that is more valuable to do. Apart from that, there is no guarantee that they will be able to win some other big wins, especially if they have already won big wins before. And for this reason, if we encounter or get a big win, we must immediately stop the gambling game and there is no need to continue the gambling game.

Being grateful for our winnings will be much better because we can limit our gambling activities and not be greedy to get even bigger wins. If we maintain this continuously, we can become responsible gamblers and not chase bigger wins. And it will keep us away from the gambling addiction that many other gamblers have experienced.

Yes that's right, for the problem of bad results, they usually won't want or be ready to accept it but for the problem of winning they are very ready, I mean those who are addicted to applying greed always think and imagine that the final result will win even though the session has not ended and there has not been any answer, so what is the reason you or they always think positively about winning when the final result has not answered. Therefore, as I said earlier, it is very important for anyone (gambler) to think rationally and understand gambling rules, especially about luck, by understanding this then I think they will not overthink the victory, because there really is no certainty, you or they will only be able to laugh or smile when the final result has really answered "you won", or even vice versa.

I think this is very important to note, because by being rational you will know what really happened and what should be done. Yes, the key is to be grateful that it is true, there is no reason to put greed because there is no guarantee to win more, it will make you a responsible gambler.
2695  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's your nice hit to leave the casino. on: October 31, 2023, 02:09:10 PM
Only for thoso who have learnt to know their moderacy in gambling by putting limit to when they should stop, have ability to control their population is emotions as in your case with past experience.
I don't know why you have wrote "population" here, anyways.
it's very very hard to control human  emotion and that also related to money so I have a idea,
some casinos have a feature of loss and win control so you can use that to for your control or just play will small amounts so you never regret it after losing.
I play on stake mostly and they have loss and win control feature so check it out, it will be helpful for controlling funds.

Honestly, I don't really understand what population means, can the number of gamblers affect your gambling for the better? But well forget about it, I'll focus on your main discussion.

That's right, it is very difficult to control yourself when you are gambling, even if you can maybe you just apply it but not by doing it. Especially when you experience unwanted things such as losing money because of the defeat of your gambling. Is that true, I mean tell me about a casino that has a feature to control your losses, or maybe limit your losses, if there are some casinos like that then the question is why there are many gamblers who suffer from losing large amounts of money? I don't think it's in the regulatory features provided by the casino, because obviously losing gamblers is what the casino wants and they will smile when they see a lot of gamblers losing especially with large amounts. So in my opinion you will only be able to minimize the risk of losing in your own way, such as self-control that you make and also with some limits that you must apply there. If you cannot apply all of that then it is clear that your losses will definitely be bigger because there is no control that limits.
2696  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dangerous chasing losses on: October 31, 2023, 01:48:40 PM
In theory or words, I totally agree to you because I knew exactly how to play properly I’m not gambling but everything is different if you are experiencing it on actual.

You have some attachment to your money and it’s really tingling when you loss part of it while you still have available money to play more just to have a comeback. It’s very easy to say not to chase loss if you are not on that situation specifically not your money involved but this kind of chasing loss problem will not gonna be majority of gamblers problem if it’s really easy to control.  Grin
However, gamblers must learn not to chase losses if they lose. They can experience more losses, especially if they use more money. That will only cause their emotions to escalate, and in the end, their self-control will disappear, so they end up using all their money to gamble. We may have often seen this happen to many gamblers or perhaps we have experienced it ourselves. If so, we better start learning to stop ourselves after losing in gambling rather than wanting to recover the loss because it is not worth continuing. If you think you can recover the loss, you can try, but it will be your responsibility when you lose more money without being able to recover the loss.

One of the things that can make them not chase past losses is in my opinion by realizing themselves that whatever the final result is natural because gambling will always refer to luck, but yes I understand it is very difficult to be able to achieve this awareness because of their mindset that has been disturbed by all the temptations in gambling.

For those who are already addicted, it is basically very difficult to justify their mindset, even though they have suffered many losses but still they are chasing victory, they think that the more experiments they do it will make the chances of winning closer but in fact the number of defeats is getting bigger. Of course, with results like that, their emotions are even more increasing and the situation is getting hotter. For those who always say "I have prepared self-control" honestly I will not fully believe it because it is not necessarily that they will be able to do that if the situation is already hot meaning they are very emotional and usually what happens is that they will do anything to be able to satisfy their lust such as depositing more money in gambling.

That's right, we have to be responsible gamblers, if you have won then you should immediately go and enjoy the money, and also if you have lost today then yes don't chase the victory because there is no guarantee to recover.
2697  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: October 31, 2023, 01:32:20 PM

When a gambler is addicted to gambling, he's not just a threat his personal life and future but also a threat to everyone around him including family members. An addicted gambler is very ready to to anything that'll provide him the money to continue his gambling including stealing and other illicit activities that are condemnable by the general society. That's it's very important to notify anyone who wants venture in to gambling to leave how to gamble responsibly or leave anything that has to do with gambling.

I have a family who is addicted to drugs but I think they have the same principle because, in my observations, they are willing to sacrifice anybody just to fill their needs because they don't really care about anyone anymore as long as they get the means to do their addictions. Just like the story I always relate concerning this topic, when our neighbor befriended a gambling addict, they won't give him peace because whenever he loses all the money from playing cards, he goes to ask for money from them even in the middle of the night where everyone is sleeping and this is a real story because I witnessed it myself. this is how mad they are and they cannot just simply stop whenever they want.
Rightly said when it becomes crazy it is no longer just a game it becomes an addiction. Gambling addiction is an irresistible and uncontrollable urge to gamble it is very difficult not to fulfill that need most of the time is passed by gambling or thinking about gambling. Always does a good job of hiding there is a tendency to hide money and even steal it. A kind of inferiority also works in itself can't get away from it despite repeated attempts. This is a big problem that many people are reluctant to admit gambling addicts shun those who prohibit or do so.

Yes and their madness comes from themselves, or in other words they create their own opportunities to get crazy in their gambling activities, none other than in my opinion it is because they are too excessive in gambling by putting too high expectations when on the other hand this is just an activity that depends on luck alone, but strangely they are very selfish by always expecting to go home with a big win.

When you are already trapped in addiction then yes I make sure you will have difficulty dealing with all the conditions that are there, you will lose control of yourself, and you will only be moved by your lust which in the end always ends in frustration. For gamblers who are addicted to this activity, they cannot miss it, they always think about how they can gamble and win, even though there is absolutely no guarantee and all that exists is to continue to lose. Yes, the fear is that when they do not have the ability in terms of money to gamble then surely they will take actions that are out of control, such as stealing maybe. Obviously this is not a small problem, I think there must be people around him who help to make him realize, although yes I realize this is quite difficult but that does not mean it is impossible.
2698  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can loneliness make one addicted to gambling on: October 31, 2023, 01:05:24 PM
I'm confused and looking for answers

If you are lonely, can you have interest in gambling simply because of your loneliness?

How would you judge someone who says they don't gamble because it's fun, is that a sign of a gambling addiction?

If you are making $600 a day, that's $20000 in a month, and because you are only you start having interest to gamble, what do you think this is?

All these questions is been asked because someone close said all these and I think he are losing money and losing himself too, of all the discussions we had, these are the points I held unto.

Later he open up to have been using $500 for gambling per day, he said all these started when his wife left him, that he isn't into gambling at all, but I can't ask why his wife left him in the first place, but does loneliness make people become addicted to gambling or it's something else.
In my opinion, he has made a mistake, he should not easily enter the world of gambling because his wife has abandoned him. If there is someone like that, in my opinion he can't understand the situation and can't think well, because it's so easy for him to gamble when he's already experiencing sadness. in his life.
It is true that everyone has their own character, there are those who take advantage of their loneliness by doing useful activities and there are also those who do activities that are unnatural and should not be done, and this goes back to a person's personality, whether they want to choose good things or things that bad. If someone who is lonely takes it out on gambling, instead of lightening the burden of sadness in their life, it will actually add new problems to their life in the future.

Yes quite agree with your assumption, honestly I don't know what that person was thinking that he could get into gambling so easily, but it might be because of the pressure of their situation that finally concluded that they had to gamble, and also yes I can't fully justify my opinion on this because of course there are many other things they can do to just look for fun to take their mind off their problems with his wife. I guess there may be some other factors that ultimately make them choose to gamble, it could be that they are very familiar with the gambling environment around them or simply that many of their friends like to gamble, so that when they are depressed due to personal problems then they divert their minds to activities that will only add to the problem.

Yes, it is true that everyone has their own character and they also have their own way of solving their problems along with finding peace when in such conditions. But yes I also can't fully blame them because they do that as a result of their chaotic mind, and maybe in my opinion it's better before you do something you have to consider it first, gambling is not an alternative to solving problems like you said but will only add new problems, that's for sure friends.
2699  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cash out or keep playing? on: October 31, 2023, 12:28:20 PM
Right, none other than that because yes they think that this is a great opportunity for them to multiply the money from the victory, even though on the other hand there is no guarantee whatsoever to get back the victory, but strangely their mindset can work like that. And yes, it's true because the thrill comes out of our subconscious so maybe that's what makes us finally not think that there are big risks waiting, and usually something based on greed will always end up worse and they regret it. I'm not saying that every time you are greedy you will lose, but usually something that is done uncontrollably always ends up with worse results.
It is true there is no guarantee that they will be able to get or double their winnings by continuing to play because they have the opportunity to suffer losses that may be greater than the winnings they have previously obtained. They don't realize this because their subconscious mind has been influenced by the winning money they get so it will influence their minds to continue gambling. It will not always end well but often ends badly, where they will only experience greater losses. We don't need to be greedy by wanting more results than we have gotten and we should be grateful for it because not many people will get the winnings like we have.

It doesn't matter if they want to apply such greed in their gambling but on the other hand the question is whether you or they are ready if the results are worse and that you never imagined before? I'm sure they don't want that to happen, so try to think more rationally in looking at gambling, I hope when you try to be greedy they have to think first and consider what risks can befall them when they do that, don't just think about the big win, because obviously as we know there is no guarantee that you can win. While on the other hand the casino creates a system so that defeat always befalls gamblers, so I think as you said that action will only increase your chances of suffering.

I think thinking more rationally will make you at least reach a pretty good awareness before finally committing greed and ending up regretting it. Well right, I agree with you, it's better to be grateful for the results of our winnings, regardless of the amount because it might be difficult for other people to be in a position like us.

Yes, because it should be like that friends, do not overdo it in gambling let alone consider that gambling as a place to earn, honestly it is not recommended, none other than because the first risk there is very large, secondly there is no guarantee whatsoever for you to produce victory, and the last is that victory there is very dependent on luck, while there is no consistent word in the concept of luck, but to lose it will happen more often. Therefore, it is only natural and has been proven in reality that you or anyone will experience more defeats than wins. And also yes of course if you have won then it is better to withdraw, do not overdo it because it is only a temptation, so be grateful for whatever the amount of your victory.
By gambling moderately, we can prevent us from bigger risks that not many gamblers can accept or can see. This risk will become greater if we are unable to control ourselves when gambling and cannot say that we have had enough gambling because we continue to be influenced by the temptations that exist in gambling. If we have managed to win, it is better for us to immediately stop gambling so that we don't have the desire to win more, especially since we know that our chances of winning are not that big.

One of the things that can make them realize is to really accept the facct that gambling is not a place to make money, and if you get a win then you must be able to confirm that others are not as lucky as you at that time. Self-control will be the most important thing in any situation, not only in gambling but in real life too it is very necessary as for example you experience problems that make you emotional and if you choose to release all the passions in yourself then it is clear that the problem is even bigger. Something that you see as an opportunity is actually just a temptation my friend, don't get trapped. You have to be able to measure how big the chances of winning are and how big your chances of loosing are, but maybe you already know there will be more losses than wins. Therefore you should not be selfish to keep wanting to win because I think it will only make you regret it in the end. So the point is you should be able to be grateful for whatever you earn, especially victory, don't be greedy because there is no guarantee to win again.
2700  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 31, 2023, 08:28:24 AM
Through week 10, Inter Milan can maintain their position at the top of the table after being able to ensure victory in a difficult match against AS Roma. In another match, AC Milan had to be displaced by Juventus after they only won a draw against Napoli.

Turning to the bottom of the table, Cagliari finally got their first win of the season after a remarkable comeback against Frosinone. While Salernitana continued their negative results with another defeat in week 10 and put them at the bottom of the table.
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