Exactly... Why would BAC pick some very unlikely BTC price point, and then to say that s/he it thinks that such price is going to happen?

Very unlikely given recent event and recent price movement and recent volume.. ..

Even the fact that BTC prices bounced off of $275 with such volume should cause a large number of rational observers to believe that this market has reversed and is very unlikely to return to such price points, absent some pretty bad news....

Accordingly, we have NOT been hearing any real bad news in regard to bitcoin.... much of the news is either good or neutral and with a few negative pieces here and there ... yet any negative news, to the extent it comes up, is largely outweighed by good and neutral news.

In other words, seems like stupid-ass trolling statements to be realistically attempting to assert that we are returning to anywhere below $360 without some kind of meaningful analysis and explanation... .. otherwise making bare assertions of such seems either trollish or fantasy landia-sh.

BUY, BUY, BUY, HODL, HODL, HODL and BUY, BUY, BUY. 



Exactly!!!!!!

Yeah... If Jorge were to accept your BTC, then he may actually learn something about BTC... which could influence his "academic" analysis.... 

Yeah, they will have a total of 2 subscribers.. Walsoraj and Mah87.   

When the cat is away, the rats will play.


Walsoraj:   YOU DIRTY RAT!!!!


 

I made NO promise to discontinue or to abbreviate any so called "text walls," so fuck off... hehehehehehe... I love you too.     

Personally, my most recent theory is that they issued Adam a computer and he is able to surf the internet and to peruse the various forums including bitcointalk.org; however, he is NOT permitted to directly submit any messages.  However, I have some confidence in Adam's ability to figure out some subtle and/or direct ways to communicate with us.  For example, he may have Loaded wink at us, or something like that.   

You are really full of shit, now... hahahaha... Trying to make me out to be a trader or someone who is attempting to predict the market and to guide people in their investment choices.  The only guidance I give is to buy and hold and to continue to buy and hold... because that is mostly what I do.  I very rarely sell because my BTC portfolio has mostly been in the red.. ever since I started investing in BTC at the top of the market in November 2013.

So, I am in long and i am investing long and I am generally NOT trading, unless I feel a certain level of confidence that the market will go down 5-10% - and you are right to suggest that I never feel that b/c if I were to sell, then I would be too worried about the manipulators pushing BTC prices in the upward direction and never to return to my selling point...

So in that regard, I sleep better in BTC and I continue to invest on a regular basis.. currently my average buy in price is a bit under $550.. so yes, I remain in the red... but I am NOT too worried b/c I am pretty sure in the next couple of years, BTC prices will be far above my average buy in price (which will continue to adjust with my continuation in buying and accumulating BTC).

Regarding your father, I am sorry about that and I am sorry about your having to eat spaghetti-o's.  That may explain some of your communication ways.   

I deny being like your father because I am NOT trading as I said, but I am engaged in a form of dollar cost averaging.. which seems to be a bit different dynamic than betting on dog races.  Also, my investment amount is much within my budget.  Without going into a large number of details, my BTC investment continues to be less than 10% of my total investment package, even though since about November 2013, I have invested nearly all of my new available investment allocated money into BTC, rather into any other asset classes.  Additionally, I have taken some of my other investments and diverted those towards BTC... which I will likely continue to do in the near future.  I imagine that at some point my BTC investment is going to represent a much larger percentage of my total investment package, and I am anticipating that larger percentage will evolve due to appreciation of BTC prices.  However, if my anticipation of BTC price appreciation does NOT proceed in an anticipated upward direction between 1 month and 2 years as anticipated, then I may need to reconsider my overall investment strategy..and the involvement of BTC in that investment strategy. 

At the same time, I am involved in studying BTC and including my participation in this forum and this thread b/c I am continuing to monitor the fundamentals of BTC.. and to assess whether any material and/or fundamental changes may develop that will cause me to lose confidence in BTC as part of my diversified investment strategy.  Yes, there has been some bad news over the past year; however, so far such bad news has NOT outweighed the good news, and I continue to consider BTC as a very decent investment vehicle that I would NOT have any problems recommending people to invest in such.. especially at these price points and especially given recent market dynamics and what appears to be various ongoing strengths in BTC.... In other words, seems much better to buy now rather than to short.. the potential for upside seems much greater than the potential for downside.. even greater than it was at $600, $500 and $400.... he hehehehe.       

So go ahead and talk your book all you want and continue to argue for the shorting of bitcoin like you have been doing.. but you really seem to be a walking bag of contradictions and to be holding out yourself to be much more of an expert than you are, even when you are making your predictions that give conditions suggesting the price could go either way.. but you overall believe X or Y... or whatever...

You are wrong quite frequently, even though you have a tendency to give specific recommendations with some kind of attempt at compelling conviction... seems a bit much to be attempting such.. and really in the end, your supposedly quasi-objective predictions do tend to come off as a form of book-talk.

YEAH right... Good luck with betting on that, that is if you are betting or if you just are trying to preserve what you have already mistakenly bet.

NOT down.. but it just keeps losing its connection.. so up and down and up and down and up.... etc.

Bolded part above..... hehehehehehe  haha +1

Me too....        We agree... you jerk...     

 

You call lack of engagement and explanation open-mindedness?  Yes, we seem to be at loggerheads, but I doubt that either you or Alonzo Ewing is more open minded than me, merely because you are attempting to get me to answer some stupid-ass questions about defining government, when I have sufficiently engaged in such definitions to the extent it is necessary.  Having various opinions does NOT make a person lacking in open-minded-ness, and refusing to engage in tangent discussions also does NOT cause a person to be lacking in open minded ness.  I am fine with agreeing to disagree or at least leaving this discussion area for the time being - even though it is a theme that frequently arises in the bitcoin space.

We seem to be in disagreement regarding the responsiveness of my previous responses, so it seems to be a big waste of time to engage in further exchange regarding these matters.  I believe that I have already sufficiently stated my position and that was merely challenging the statements of others regarding their description of no need for taxes and that government services do NOT serve useful societal purposes in light of how much they cost. 

In fact one of the most efficient and effective government services in the world is the social security system that was established in the US of A in the 1930s.  Yet, nonetheless, there is NO burden on me to back up the various multitude of status quo system, even though I have a large number of gripes regarding them.  In essence, so far, I have NOT made any real and/or significant claims regarding the dismantling of such systems in large ways, as was the logical outgrowth of the original statement made by Rpietila (that I have repeated several times to be the origination of this line of discussion).

Why?

I don't believe that by nature regulations take away freedom from individuals - except to the extent which they are focused to give advantages to the wealthy.  Surely, most of our lives would be much better if infrastructure was better, and we are able to pursue jobs and dreams with dignity.  Frequently we are told that regulation and the government are the bad guys; however, if we did not have regulations and government, it is possible that we would be getting screwed even worse by the rich and powerful b/c there would be little to no infrastructure and we would all be living in cabins with dirty water killing us.

Personally, I have the sense that the government is the vehicle to keep in check the exploiters who become too powerful and lose their sense of community (b/c of their greed); however, there are a lot of ways that government has been coopted.. and distracted to work on the wrong side and to complicate the way in which regular people are being screwed by the rich and powerful... the rich and powerful do NOT contribute their fair share, and they strive to separate themselves from contributing to community... b/c they are too busy either stealing more of what they do NOT need and/or preventing those resources from being used for broader and common application(s).

The video is much more hilarious.   

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=768h3Tz4Qik

We have a pretty high level of agreement here (in the above bolded part);  however, the rest of your statement fails to focus on this point, and you seem to get distracted by crumbs and engaging your energy in such baloney talk about the crumbs.. when a lot of the major corruption and stealing from the government coffers is at a very much higher and more abstract level.. including currency which goes in the pockets of bank financiers and other wealthy folk that do NOT need more money.... and goes away from infrastructure and quality of life issues in order that regular people are desperate and get exploited in the workplace.. to the extent that they can find meaningful and fulfilling jobs that have not been exported to some place in which less than $1 per hour is paid.

If you are focusing on poor people getting too many benefits or government workers being too spoiled or having too much job security, then in my view you are focusing on pie crumbs while the banks, oil tycoons, military contractors and pharmaceutical industries are running off with the lion's share of the resources and corrupting the government with money influences. 

Surely, it would be good if the people could wrestle back control of their various elected officials and the election process in order that these people would be forced to work in the public interest rather than being bought out and being scared to go against insurance companies for example...

I don't really see, short of some kind of revolution, that you could completely abolish these many governmental infrastructures.. and seems that many people agree that there is too much money corruption that is being allowed to influence elected reps away from true fighting for the needs of regular people.