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2701  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Asian Cup 2023 Prediction and Discussion on: June 23, 2022, 01:07:34 PM
I think you mean to say Indonesia instead of Milan Smiley Coming up to the chance of Indonesia in the Asian Cup, I would not expect too much. They could go this far is more than enough already. At least they have shown something better than before (improved). Their chance to go further is indeed small, what they should do is do their best no matter what would be the result. Not to lose all matches in the Group Stage will be enough for me as Indonesian supporter.

Haha, wth.. That's right, I mean Indonesia, maybe because I was online in the mid night, Indonesian time, so I lacked concentration.

Yes, we are all aware of the strength of Indonesian football, not to underestimate, but for now, Indonesia still cannot be categorized as a strong enough team to face teams in Asia. When Indonesia was able to win at the Southeast Asian level, at that time it could be said, Indonesia was already one level away from being better prepared to face Asian teams.
2702  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Token] Anak Negeri $VCG (vcgamers) Apa Akan Sama dengan yang Lain? on: June 22, 2022, 06:20:51 PM
Baru-baru ini mereka bikin partnet dengan produk eiger, namun arahnya juga masih gak jelas, ini kan produk yang bukan game, untuk produk tas dan anak gunung lainnya, emang di gunung ada internet ya?.
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Saya kurang mengikuti pengembangannya, namun apakah mereka berencana membuat suatu game atau gimana ya mas? Kalau misalkan mereka memiliki rencana untuk pengembangan game, maka kerja sama ini bisa saja merupakan rencana jangka panjang, yang nantinya akan dijadikan salah satu NFT dengan merek Eiger. Tapi, kalau tidak ada rencana tersebut, artinya kerja sama ini sia-sia, karena memang tidak ada korelasinya. Lagi pula, token dan service utama proyek ini ga bisa disatukan jika hanya di Indonesia, bagaimana demikian, beli voucher game tidak bisa dilakukan dengan mebayar menggunakan VCG, jadi tetep saja masih tidak ada utility. Tinggal nunggu aja perkembangannya nanti, apakah benar akan ada game yang related dengan eiger atau tidak.
2703  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoins dead? on: June 22, 2022, 06:13:39 PM
All the altcoins you mention have use cases, there are many platforms created on the blockchain of some of the coins you mention, so they might be hard to be dead, and I don't agree with your title that altcoins are dead. It will be different if what you are showing is new tokens and coins that have no volume. Crashes are normal, we've seen them time and time again. The current crash, is temporary, it may be necessary to distinguish between whether to die and not being able to touch ATH anymore. If it is related to ATH, there is a possibility that altcoins are difficult to get to ATH, and I have experienced this in several altcoins such as MUE, XVG, SC and others, but they still exist despite crashing from ATH 2017 and not hitting old ATH till today.
2704  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Asian Cup 2023 Prediction and Discussion on: June 22, 2022, 05:53:14 PM
Indonesia is my country, regarding indonesian football is indeed developing.

I am quite happy with Indonesia's success in qualifying for the Asian Cup, but I am a little worried about their performance. At the Southeast Asian level, Milan still struggles against teams like Thailand, Singapore, Malaysia, while in Asia there are more strong teams. The possibility, Indonesia to qualify from the group qualification is very small, but hopefully players from our country can give a surprise like when they beat Nepal.
2705  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 22, 2022, 05:44:31 PM
I read a news about milan condition now, Milan is currently in serious trouble regarding the transfer of players. Rumors, RedBird will not provide enough money for Milan in the transfer market this summer. Of course this is a blow to Pioli and staff like Maldini. Because, Milan already have a plan to buy some players, but if Milan didn't get funds from RedBird, the plan could change and could not be executed as well.
2706  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 22, 2022, 05:34:15 PM
Lewandowski transfer process to Barcelona is very complicated, until now there has been no official announcement from both parties. Lewandowski has made it clear that he wants to move to Barcelona, ​​and Barcelona want to get Lewandowski, but Bayern Munich put a high price on Lewandowski. Barcelona have difficulty redeeming Lewandowski with a price that reaches 50 million euros because he is in a financial crisis.



Munich doesn't want to release Lewandowski, thats why this transfer process will not be easy to do. They have carried out the first strategy by giving a high price so Barcelona cannot afford it. It's been difficult enough for barca, even though the player wants to leave, but it could become impossible and next season Lewandowski will stay with Munich.
2707  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is it so hard to win at gambling? on: June 21, 2022, 06:00:35 PM
The longer you play the closer your results will mimic the expected probabilities out of the games, however if the time you ever gamble is on the short side the variance can increase to the point you could make some profits when you gamble, however this method has two big downsides, the first one is that it is dependent on luck and the second is that you must never gamble again, something impossible to do if you like to gamble and obtain some entertainment out of the activity.

the length of play time can not be a reference, even the probability will remain the same. So let's talk about possibilities, I've played 3 hours, because my initial balance doesn't seem to change significantly in that time, so I can play longer. until in the end I lost. Tried in another day, I still lost. Victory is precisely when I give up, try with small initials, bet higher, and within a few moments I win. This is purely not a decisive time but it is luck that plays a role.
2708  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Benarkah BSV Bullish di tengah Bear Market? on: June 21, 2022, 05:54:38 PM
Bukannya post seperti ini sudah biasa mas ada di akun sosial media. Kalau dilihat dari penyampaiannya, mereka tidak seperti sedang mengajak orang untuk membeli BSV, murni hanya sebatas informasi top gainer sepekan. Post ini tak ubahnya dengan post ini

source; https://twitter.com/hc_capital/status/1537361862836506624

Jika, akun ini selalu menjadikan BSV sebagai top gainer, bisa jadi akun ini memang lebih condong ke BSV, namun kalau netral, artinya tidak ada yang salah. saya ngintip twitternya sepertinya tidak selalu menjadikan BSV sebagai top gainer. mungkin hanya sebatas memberi info saja.
2709  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: June 21, 2022, 05:46:12 PM
Have you tried to change your VPN into an Indonesian IP just as said by the rep? and you'll probably gonna those promos that locals gets.

Because the account is already registered as international user, it seems that even using an Indonesian IP will still not get promotions like when registering on a local website. Before registering, I asked @roycilik first, the web that can be opened in Indonesia without a VPN, and I open it via bk8btc.com, without a VPN it's no problem. So my account became a local account because the initial IP recorded was an Indonesian IP. if there a migrate account options, maybe can help to be local user. if not, his account will remain as international user account, CMIIW
2710  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is dead! on: June 21, 2022, 05:36:55 PM

CNBC and mainstream media have long lost their credibility. they must not be trusted at all for anything IMO.  if anyone want to know about Bitcoin he must do his own research and check the available history and always take information from valid and legimate sources.

if a mainstream media outlet tells you that Bitcoin is Dead. he's probably bluffing.


Yes, media is no longer the quality of the news that is presented. However, they prefer to make news readable not because of quality but with provocation or clickbait not only on bitcoin and crypto, almost all timelines report mostly just a click bait from title. I myself have rarely read news from mainstream media, I have never even watched TV. Especially when bitcoin and alt crashes, the news is really ridiculous, it makes investing in crypto is the worst.
2711  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [INFO] Play to Earn dengan GameFi on: June 21, 2022, 11:42:43 AM
Kalau untuk short term gain,mungkin memang susah ya,tapi untuk orang yang banyak waktu luang atau pengangguran,ini menjadi salah satu cara untuk mendapatkan penghasilan dan sudah banyak juga yang mencoba.Untuk tingkat kesulitan mendapatkan NFT dan harga nya,masih banyak GameFi baru yang layak untuk dicoba,siapa tau bisa meledak seperti AXS.
Untuk jangka panjang pun, juga riskan. Maaf saya tidak membenci GameFi, saya hanya berbicara tentang pengalaman saya saat bermain. mengapa riskan. Begini, ketika kita ingin breeding, otomatis kita juga butuh ongkos, bener kan, berapa besar potensi mas untuk mendapatkan anakan yang bernilai tinggi? Tidak dapat diprediksi, karena hasil anakan akan bergantung pada "luck" juga. Jika kita punya modal anggap saja 2 juta, kita breeding dengan anakan yang didapat, berapa anakan yang kira-kira bisa dijual lebih mahal daripada ongkos breed? itu yang penting saat bernain. Kalau misalkan earning didapat dari PvP, tanpa breeding, kita juga musti mengukur apa reward selanjutnya yang didapat, worth ga kira-kira untuk dihold.

Tapi, kalau soal early adopter, saya sepakat, karena ini mungkin akan memberikan lebih banyak peluang, hanya saja kita juga musti memiliki target kapan harus mengamankan modal. Jika modal sudah kembali dan kita memiliki banyak sisa, maka saya katakan strategi game Anda berhasil. Namun, jika masih minus banyak, artinya game tersebut kemungkinan gagal. Semakin sedikit pengguna, keinginan untuk membeli NFTnya pun akan menurun. Semakin menurun, maka kasus menjual rugi NFT adalah solusi untuk cutloss.


sekali lagi, ini berdasarkan pengalaman saya bermain, hasil beda-beda, jika Anda memiliki strategi yang bagus untuk bermain agar bisa seperti user AXS dari filipina tersebut, ya monggo. BTW, ada salah satu member forum namun beliau kayaknya sudah ga aktif, silakan liat-liat videonya di channelnya, kali aja dapat ilmu dari beliau https://youtu.be/sQoF0i_b99s
2712  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [INFO] Play to Earn dengan GameFi on: June 20, 2022, 05:41:02 PM
Jika dilihat dari review penghasilannya, ini akan sangat menarik, sepertinya mudah untuk mendapatkan uang. Namun, untuk memiliki aset tersebut, itulah yang sulit. Kita bersaing dengan whale, meskipun ini dalam dunia terdesentralisasi, bukan berarti game terbebas dari whale. Kemudian, faktor harga token yang juga dapat memengaruhi harga dari NFT yang dimiliki. Kalau untuk game seperti AXS, kita breeding juga belum tentu dapat yang mudah untuk dijual. Kebanyakan, holder akan memilih untuk menurunkan harga NFT dari hasil breed jika dirasa kurang bagus. Sedangkan untuk mendapatkan NFT yang bagus dan mahal, kita juga tidak akan pernah tahu kapan. jika dari beberapa kali breed ternyata dapat yang murah, bisa saja malah nombok/minus saat menjualnya.
2713  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Slots is More Likely to Cause Gambling Problem on: June 20, 2022, 05:33:40 PM
-snip- in my opinion it is obvious that it is easier to get used to slots because in 10 minutes you can make 60-200 bets, while in betting, you are unlikely to have time to make at least one bet (if you do even a simple analysis).
Exactly, so why people easy being addicted in slots because they can bet anytime, and limitless. Of course, the ego alos will quickly rise to be able to win the game. Then, a game that is simple, easy to use, will look so fun, so they don't realize that they are addicted to games that are played and sometimes they are forget if they are currently on bets. I have to say, really hard to going away from slots, both win or lose.
2714  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: June 20, 2022, 05:20:26 PM
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If your country getting restricted, better to skip rather than face some problem in some day.
I Agree with you, if it restricted maybe better to skip, but if we are looking from this message:
About the region, it depends on you. If you really want to join BK8 International, then you need to use VPN to register as BK8 International and yes all Indonesian IP will be automatically registered as local regions.


If you see from the comments, users are allowed to use VPN, imo, users have no problems if accessing from VPN from countries that block access to websites that do not get permission or licenses in that country. well, we have to wait other explanations about this.
2715  Economy / Speculation / Re: Was 17600$ was the bottom ? on: June 20, 2022, 05:09:46 PM
According to some analysis, the bottom of BTC should be in the 12-15K area, if at this price it breaks, then there is a possibility that bitcoin will return to 10K. However, going back to market sentiment, if in the end the market sees 17K is the deepest, then BTC could slowly reverse from this price. Everything is just a prediction, it could be wrong predictions.
2716  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: El Salvador loses more than half the value of its reserves in bitcoins on: June 20, 2022, 10:39:42 AM
Inspite of bitcoin experiencing strong decline in value there trust upon the market. Just because El Salvador crypto reserve value has declined one can't be come to a conclusion. Even in a recent tweet he mentioned that the growth will continue once after the bear market. Now it is time to stop looking onto the graphs and enjoy life.

At the end El Salvador President Nayib Bukele mentioned Patience is the Key. This is true with cryptocurrency and they are quite confident in bitcoin's progress as you and me.

The points is, bukele buy Bitcoin at the wrong time. He buys with government money not free money, at a time when BTC is quite expensive, adding BTC assets but not at the deepest price. So, those who are against BTC, they will say Bukele has wasted state money by buying Bitcoin. There is nothing wrong with their assumption, because the country needs money for various needs, but the money reserves have been made to invest in Bitcoin. If (for example) until 2025 the price does not return to ATH, surely Bukele will be blamed for this BTC purchase decision.
2717  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sweet Bonanza: The #1 Pragmatic Play Slots, What's Your Opinion? on: June 20, 2022, 10:33:17 AM
Looking at your other several posts, I do believe that you prefer to play slot with buy feature, am I right?
I think you will not like Play n Go because there is no buy feature, Play n Go is good for those who want to hunt multiplier in normal spins usually for multiplier contest because there is a gamble feature.


Yep, mostly I play with the buy feature. For some games I'm trying to do a normal spin. It's more challenging, but I think for certain games, we have a better chance of getting the bonus with a bigger stake than betting on the bonus at Sweet Bonanza. So far, I've tried on spade gaming, PG Soft, the results are better, although not big wins, at least I got some bonus spins plus a multiplier on normal spins which is not found in the sweet bonanza.
2718  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: crypto long term dijamin sukses on: June 17, 2022, 08:22:58 PM
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Banyak sosmed beberapa teman yang menyarankan koin lain seperti dot, link, gal, ogn dan bnb.


Meskipun di social media ANda merupakan orang-rang lama di bitcoin, mereka akan menyarankan agar newbie tidak hanya sebatas mengikuti saran orang lain untuk melakukan pembelian kripto. Karena, bisa jadi saran yang diberikan tidak sesuai dengan yang terjadi pada market. Misalnya kasus LUNA, saat booming, banyak yang hold luna, hasilnya sekarang sekarang minus 99%.
2719  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: El Salvador loses more than half the value of its reserves in bitcoins on: June 17, 2022, 08:02:54 PM
Yesterday I discussed this with friends on a local board about this. The current price of BTC will make some people in the El Salvador government say, this is the wrong financial plan. IMF might laugh for Bukele, since they are already warn him to not buy bitcoin. After all, bukele buy at the peak of the bitcoin price. If bitcoin pattern is the same, it may still take a few months to see bitcoin price going reversal. Bukele & el-Salvador must be consistent in storing their bitcoins, because if he sells, for example, at current prices, it means he has wasted money that should have been enough to build infrastructure in his country.
2720  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is dead! on: June 17, 2022, 07:47:14 PM
CNBC Globalversion  turns out to have the same junk article. I think it's only the local version of CNBC in my country that spreads articles that seem to assume that bitcoin is a bad asset when it drops more than 2%. However, they are also not shy about giving a positive reaction when bitcoin is bullish. This media is not fair with bitcoin, so I choose not to read articles from CNBC anymore. Their quality is very poor when spreading a news about BTC.
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